Daniel Bryan US Title Shot...Too Soon?

[natlee75]

I think they need to get the U.S. title off of The Miz so they can focus him completely on the main event and World title level scene. I think Daniel Bryan would be a great champ for all the reasons that people listed.

Nevertheless, I think it's too soon. I don't buy people just coming right in and winning a major title in less than a year. I didn't buy it with Sheamus. I didn't buy it with Rocky Maivia. It just doesn't make sense unless the person was an established superstar at another major company, and at this point there isn't another such company.

If Daniel Bryan hadn't been released by WWE earlier in the year, and there had been time to build him up with the WWE's audience, I think he'd be in a better position although still a bit too soon.

It's too bad WWE doesn't have its version of the "TV Championship" from WCW days so as to allow some of the lower card wrestlers to get pushed. I know, I know -- too many titles, but I think someone shouldn't even be winning the I-C or U.S. titles without at least a year's worth of experience let alone the World titles...

 

[XgringolocoX]

Not too soon. The whole firing incident and obvious internet connection DB has lends some real life into the story. WWE would be stupid not to capitalize on this. OK true, it's not that great of a buzz, but it's at least something.
I LOVED the interaction with Cole and how Cole just destroys DB on commentary. Cole has become entertaining. Just about.
Daniel has people interested in how he performs. In the few instances where he was allowed to actually wrestle he's shown great promise. This is a guy who can carry a 30 minute match and better.
Your saying "too soon" cause DB hasn't quite found his WWE nitch. We're just not too sure what groove he's in or direction he should go in.
Also, I don't know when we've see this many new faces all at the same time. Now I don't count other influxes of talent cause before those guys were from other promotions on tv and we knew them already. We haven't seen these kids before. I've always noticed that when you introduce a lot of new to people they resist, there's a backlash. Once they get comfortable a little that resistance dies. So Chill OUT, get comfortable. I just think it's great that DB is back and having a feud with the Miz. I also can't wait to see Danielson at Evolve on Saturday!!
Umm...long rant short....not too soon. It's all about the newbies folks

 

[brochester8]

I do not believe that it is too soon for Daniel to have a title shot. The timing is right. Do I think that Daniel should have some *Successful* matches before then? YES! With this title shot though, The Miz should NOT lose cleanly to Daniel O'Brian. I mean think about it, how can you have The Miz lose cleanly to Daniel and then The Miz become world champion? So, Yes, have Daniel win the belt, as the timing is perfect to give excitement to the belt again, especially given Daniel's recent popularity push. Daniel O'Brian though, needs to win the US title belt by DQ or cheating; just something crazy so that The Miz does not look weak win The Miz wins the WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP!

First off it Daniel Bryan, not O'Brian, but as a history lesson things like this has happened before. At a Wrestlemania Brett lost a match to Owen Hart and then won the WWE Championship later in the match. More recently Edge lost in an elimination chamber and then won it in the other elimination chamber. I don't think it makes Miz look weak by cashing in his money in the bank because they always just knock out someone that is already down but make him seize the opportunity which is what the briefcase is about.

I see Bryan winning the US title and then Miz cashing on after the 6 pac. It hink Sheamus or Orton will win and then Miz will cash it in on one of them.

 

[And_Overall_AWESOME!!!]

They r just doing this to get the belt off the miz. He'll probaly submit or drop the belt the next night. nothing major for him.

 

[Ferbian]

Not really no. Bryan Danielson has a lot of momentum going for him right now. He returned with a huge victory over The Nexus, as well as he has been dominating Miz on occasions, slapping on the crossface like it was nothing.

Bryan is definitely ready to step up and challenge for the championship. What else is there to do for him? He has nobody but The Miz to feud with, considering Nexus is definitely much busier with the main event RAW guys. Bryan has history with The Miz that makes this feud logical as ever.

Besides, they need to build his momentum and keep it going. They need to push this guy into a noteworthy position, rather than shuffling him around in the card. This way solves all these problems. He's not shuffled, because he's the champion, he's noteworthy because he's the champion, and he's getting pushed to be the champion.

 

[The Pagan]

I believe Carlito came out his first night and beat John Cena for the US title. And wasn't Santino first seen in the company holding a title? So to says it is too soon....maybe...but I don't think so. It's not like Daniel Bryan is cutting in front of anyone for a shot. How many times has Miz even defended the US title? Not many. I think it would be interesting if they made it a 3 way fight at NOC. The could take the belt off Miz without making him "job" to Bryan. I think JoMo or Justin Gabriel would be great choices for a 3rd guy to put in the match.

 

[Million Dollar Dream]

I don't think it's too soon for Daniel Bryan's US title shot. I'm very glad that WWE didn't make Cole & The Miz's Feud disappear after the 90 day hiatus. I was kinda skeptical that they might but in any event...

Their feud has been entertaining in my opinion and will give some interest back in the United States belt.

Maybe with some of the belts unifying it's a sign they will make a bigger emphasis on feud's for chases for the belts and gain some honor back into them.

 

[MWRedskins]

.The problem I see with this is, how does it look when u have someone lose a midcard title to another midcarder, but then beat a main event superstars for the WWE Title.... The only way to do it is have the person be beat down bad b4 cashing in, and still Miz would look like a weak champion then because he lost to DB first and needed the person to be beat down ahead of time in order to get another title.

Agree that it LOOKS bad, BUT it also makes his heel status more known. Here's how to make this work now. Have Daniel Bryan win by a roll up win, a surprise win. then have Miz cash in after Triple H (if he's healthy enough) beats down Sheamus. Then on RAW the next night have Daniel Bryan challenge him on RAW for the WWE title, THEN have Miz beat Bryan this time, then that loss vs. Bryan doesnt look so bad anymore if he beats Bryan cleanly, then at the pay per view, have Miz cheat to win, that's the issue with the last money in the bank winners. they dont win matches or get DQed in a title match, just let Miz cheat and win title matches, then it makes his heel status better.

As for the US title match, NO it's not too soon. Miz hasnt defended the US title in over 30 days, he NEEDS to defend that title before it becomes nothing more than a prop, let Miz lose the title and lose it soon, Daniel Bryan is ready and people dont think he's good on the mic, i disagree, i like him on the mic, the only issue with him is his music needs to be better, but other than that, he's got star written all over him, same with Alex Riley, BUT he NEEDS to be on Smackdown.

 

[Fisheatppl]

Daniel Bryan could win without making the Miz look weak. Think about this, and bear with me. What if The Miz and Bryan had a great match. But after a bit, Miz just rolls over and gives Bryan the title. He loses the title. Bryan wins it and the WWE can use it properly. Maybe Miz says he has bigger fish to fry. He doesn't care about the US title and hasn't in a long time, its beneath him. Oh and possibly more fued with Bryan, as he can insinuate Bryan never truly beat him. This would possibly make it feel like it didn't happen "too soon" since he didn't actually beat Miz. And it doesn't mean Miz has to cash in his MitB at NoC. Maybe Miz beats Bryan at NoC and "loses" it at a later PPV.

I also liked the Triple Threat match idea someone had earlier. Miz wouldn't have to "lose" but he wouldn't be champ anymore.

 

[hatehabsforever]

Daniel Bryan's US Championship opportunity is absolutely not too soon. He will face the Miz at Night of Champions and he will become the new United States Champion, you can count on it.

I think this was in the cards dating right back to NXT season #1. The interaction and friction between mentor and rookie teased it right from the get-go. The exchanges between DBD and Michael Cole even further prepared the imminent feud. They have been adversaries on a weekly basis ever since Bryan returned. This is an excellent way to get the title off of the Miz without making him look weak. It will allow the Miz to jump into the main event in the very near future (probably even later the same night). It will bring prestige back to the title, a title which freqeuntly isn't even significant enough for it to even be defended. It will send up a plethora of new feuds between Danielson and an assortment of other guys.

Danielson is clearly ready. He's already the beneficiary of great crowd response and respect. His reputation precedes him amongst the IWC and he will soon earn the admiration of those of us not already familiar with his indy work. He's skilled in the ring and better on the mic than I expected.

Plus, how could it be too soon? If they give him a title shot and he loses, what harm has been done? None. And if he's successful in becoming champ but it doesn't go well (which I doubt), it's no big deal to have him drop the title again to whomever.

I say let him go and let him prove to the world what the hype is all about and that he's worthy of it. It's a no-lose situation.

 

[The Poodle]

what I think could happen, I have no idea where they are going with this Jericho thing, depending I guess on his contract situation, but Miz could lose to Bryan, though I'm not sure he will, and then use the MITB to be the 6th person in the 6 pack challenge, but in the same sort of way that Hogan did. come out later in the game, and win. This way, he actually won the match rather than attacking a knocked out opponent.

Also, I dont think losing would hurt Miz if he were to win the title later in the night. Bret lost to Owen in the first match of Wrestlemania 10, and went on to beat Yokozuna for in the last match and no one thought Bret was weak, it just helped elevate Owen

 

[The Calgary Kid]

It's an interesting dilemma for me. From a professional standpoint, I absolutely think that DBD deserves a push in whatever company he's signed to; however, the way that he has been booked has pretty much destroyed his credibility. He debuted on NXT and lost, what, ten matches(?) without winning one, eventually getting himself disqualified for essentially having a poor work ethic (kayfabe). He shows up for the first Nexus angle, gets fired (if it was a work, it further killed his momentum), then disappears for three months. He comes back at SummerSlam and kicks ass, eliminating two Nexus members, before getting pinned after Miz's cheap shot, then loses another two matches on Raw. The IWC knows who he is, everyone doing the "Daniel Bryan" chant knows who he is, but that's not everyone. I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of the average viewers are not particularly enthusiastic about him, probably acknowledging that he looks good in the ring, but followed by the statement that he looks incredibly bland and never wins. Don't get me wrong, I think he's extremely talented, but he deserves better treatment than he's getting, and I feel like having him win a title now isn't going to make him a credible champion. Had he stayed through the duration of NXT, won the competition and used his title shot against Miz, we wouldn't be having this conversation. If they'd actually let him win matches occasionally, we probably wouldn't be having it, either. The fact is, his three month absence killed whatever momentum he had going for him when he was on NXT, and picking up where they left off is, at this point, like they're trying to make up for lost time.

In terms of getting the belt off of Miz, frankly, I don't think he should even be wearing it at this point, and the explanation is simple. The way I see it, he should NEVER have lost the title to Bret back in May. That accomplished absolutely nothing. The Miz/Jericho vs. Harts feud went nowhere and this added nothing to it. Losing to a 50 year old stroke victim who can't wrestle ruined his credibility, and having him job to R-Truth the following week for the vacant title killed whatever he had left. It seemed like, at that point, Creative realized that they'd majorly fucked up and set up the fatal four way match where Miz won the title back, showing off his cunning instinct in the process. By proxy, Truth got de-pushed, as well. If they wanted to take the belt off of him, he should have kept it until that night and had Truth win without pinning Miz, which would then free Miz up to position himself for the main event and solidify his push before he won the briefcase, which would have worked even if he lost a rematch. Instead, they needed to use the belt as a prop in order for him to look credible again, which should never have been an issue in the first place. Now they risk him losing popularity/heat/momentum/whatever if he loses the belt cleanly, especially to a "rookie" who's basically marketed as a jobber. Creative have fucked themselves over, and both Miz and DBD in the process. In short, I don't think DBD should win the title at NOC, and if he does, it should be because something goes horribly wrong (e.g., Riley accidentally hits Miz with the briefcase), so that it doesn't make Miz look stupid. Let's face it, WMX comparisons aside, even if he cashes in later that night, it's not going to go over anywhere near as well as it would otherwise.

 

[Trance Metaphor]

I think they should let the Miz keep the title in order to extend this Daniel Bryan/Miz feud. I'm not a fan of short-lived feuds and I know this started since NXT season one, but it hasn't had much depth in terms of matches. They've only had one official match and that was before Daniel Bryan was fired. That's just not enough to establish what people might otherwise be indifferent about. In order to reignite some heat, the Miz should score the victory over Daniel Bryan and carry out the storyline further with the latter eventually winning the US title. Then, Bryan can start fighting Alex Riley if that becomes a possible future skirmish. I wouldn't be surprised if the WWE gave us another swerve at NOC. I think it'll be better. What's the rush anyway? We already have Wade Barrett engaging in bitter rivalries with Orton and Cena. The WWE Championship has plenty of challengers right now.

 

[Bobizzle]

This will go one of several ways:

1-Bryan will beat Miz, and hold the U.S. Title for awhile to get him over, as well as officially make Miz a main event challenger. Possibly cash in the same night, if either Orton or Cena wins. I dont see this happening though, its too obvious..and Bryan still needs to win over the fans who still dont know him-a U.S. title may be too soon right now.

2-Miz beats Bryan, then he will cash in against the 6-pack challenge winner, but is screwed over by Bryan interfering, costing him his chance and adding more fuel to their rivalry. This is probably a very likely scenario, but maybe still obvious.

3-Alex Riley interferes and Bryan wins by DQ(Miz retaining), shifting Bryan's focus from Miz to Riley. This is the most likely scenario.

The WWE will put Bryan over, but they arent gonna screw Miz either. A Riley/Bryan feud can be good, and it gives both a chance to show what they got to the WWE fans

 

[Nomis]

I think Bryan is in a Goldilocks situation. Not too soon, Not too late, Just right. Bryan and Miz's rivalry has been brewing since February. Its finally time for a PPV match after the release. I hope Bryan wins and Miz cashes in later in the night.

 

[Davi323]

Alex Riley attempts to interfere, it backfires, and DB gets the win. Its OBVIOUS that Alex Riley is going to get involved, he has been an integral part of the feud. So, ref gets distracted, Riley tries to hit DB with foreign object, misses and hits Miz instead, DB gets the win and the belt, without Miz taking a clean loss.

 

[The Excellence of AWESOME]

Has miz really done ANYTHING with the us title? He won it from kofi, lost it to both r-truth, and BRET HART, and those are really the only two guys who've challenged himbfor it. I honestly dont know why wwe gave him the belt after he lost it to bret. I think wwe should have had a tournament for it after bret gave it up. But I dont see any problem with Daniel Bryan getting a shot. At least they're giving some one a push. Not like Evans which wasnt much.

 

[martymcfly]

Is it too soon for bryan to be chasing a midcard title? Yet on the other hand, people are slavering for miz to be chasing the main title and no one thinks twice about it. Honestly, from what I've seen bryan is better in the ring than miz, so yes, if miz is given a midcard title then there's no reason to think that bryan can't go after it. And again, I don't see how anyone can think that miz is ready for the main title yet bryan is not ready for midcard.

 

[titadab05]

The problem I see with this is, how does it look when u have someone lose a midcard title to another midcarder, but then beat a main event superstars for the WWE Title.... The only way to do it is have the person be beat down bad b4 cashing in, and still Miz would look like a weak champion then because he lost to DB first and needed the person to be beat down ahead of time in order to get another title.

And that's a solid point, but not something we haven't seen in the past. And you hit the nail on the head, with it being a Five Man Free For All (probably ends up being a Fatal Fourway) obviously the winner is going to be beaten up pretty bad and the only way for Miz to lose at that point would be if he cashed in on Barrett only to get pummeled by the Nexus, imo.

I would guess that they would just have Miz lose in some sort of obscure way, i.e. a quick roll up with the "WTF" face and him throwing a temper tantrum before coming down and cashing in MiTB.

If it were me, though, I would let Miz continue to hold the briefcase for as long as possible, but if they wanted to push Bryan, which the WWE seems likely to do, then what better way than to jump him up to midcard status?

I don't know, to be honest, but I can't see them keeping both titles on him and right now they're not having him defend the US Champion on any sort of regular basis.