First off, I will take the time to discuss this.. Unrelated to wrestling, I do LARPING irl and sometimes take part in the SCA and Amtgard, which revolves around authentic medieval combat.. But what does Live Action Role-Playing and Pro Wrestling have in common? At the end of the day we're acting out a character role, the only difference is that in LARPING, you are acting without a script and you create your own character and I wonder if this would work in a pro wrestling business, where everything goes unscripted and is instead spontaneous? From talk on the mic to what goes on in the ring, we would eliminate the writers for said show..
Could unscripted wrestling work!?
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It would not work. At all. Pro wrestlers don't want to really fight and even if they did it would be really boring. Take a look at any random match. We all suspend our disbelief for the sake of entertainment. Absolutely everything in a pro wrestling match is incredibly unrealistic in a real fight scenario. The reason the matches work the way they do is because the wrestlers are cooperating with each other every step of the way. If they weren't it would just be an awkward mess. Brawl For All was the closest thing to unscripted wrestling and it was a disaster.
It would be letting the inmates run the asylum.
If the wrestlers were to come up with everything on their own how do you expect that to play out?
Wouldn't you see an influx of wrestlers going into business for themselves? That's the only thing I could see happening. Total chaos. Someone would still also have to work time management into the shows and everything.
The writers are important to put limitations on what happens out there.
I do get where you're coming from. And I could see the excitement factor but the risk isn't worth the reward. Even if it would be interesting especially on the mic to see what people would come up with.
If the wrestlers were to come up with everything on their own how do you expect that to play out?
Wouldn't you see an influx of wrestlers going into business for themselves? That's the only thing I could see happening. Total chaos. Someone would still also have to work time management into the shows and everything.
The writers are important to put limitations on what happens out there.
I do get where you're coming from. And I could see the excitement factor but the risk isn't worth the reward. Even if it would be interesting especially on the mic to see what people would come up with.
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Hmm, wrestlers doing their own promos, no predetermined winners, not having a 150 pound wanna be Hollywood writer telling them how to wrestle I see a win win situation for everyone. The wrestlers since not having to follow a script will be able to do his or hers job better with little to none botches and will have more motivation to perform plus as a result of such motivation the fans will get more better and exciting matches the only downside will be that allot of wrestlers will be seen in a way that allot of you may not like.
I don't want to sound condescending (or acquire a spam-related infraction), but modern MMA has pre-match trash-talking and unscripted fights, so just watch that. Even before that, boxers give each other the business beforehand.
If we're talking just wrestling, amateur wrestling is already a thing (that Angle won Olympic Gold in).
If you're talking RAW minus planned finishes... well, that wouldn't work. You need some level of assistance for almost all of the regular moves we see. It'd degenerate into some sort of MMA, but it'd be very one-sided as well, with the legit tough guys running train on everybody else.
Add to that injuries and pretty soon you're left without a twice-weekly show.
If we're talking just wrestling, amateur wrestling is already a thing (that Angle won Olympic Gold in).
If you're talking RAW minus planned finishes... well, that wouldn't work. You need some level of assistance for almost all of the regular moves we see. It'd degenerate into some sort of MMA, but it'd be very one-sided as well, with the legit tough guys running train on everybody else.
Add to that injuries and pretty soon you're left without a twice-weekly show.
I think some people are misunderstanding what the OP is talking about when he's saying unscripted.
He's not talking about something like Brawl for All where they're really fighting. He's talking about removing the writers and letting the wrestlers do it on their own. Giving them a live mic and letting them come up with their own promos. Let them work out their own story lines and matches.
That's how I understood it anyway.
He's not talking about something like Brawl for All where they're really fighting. He's talking about removing the writers and letting the wrestlers do it on their own. Giving them a live mic and letting them come up with their own promos. Let them work out their own story lines and matches.
That's how I understood it anyway.
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Sure it could work. It already exists, as a matter of fact, it's called mixed martial arts.
Professional wrestling without a script would ultimately be nothing more than what MMA ultimately is, which is shoot fighting, and it'd be courting disaster. Look at how many wrestlers could wind up being injured or outright crippled. Also, personally, I find real fighting to be kinda boring. A pro wrestling match is more like some sort of planned, choreographed fight you'd see on television or in the movies. It's designed to look visually great while simultaneously as safe as they can be. Doesn't mean wrestlers don't get hurt or injured, just as can happen in movie or TV fight scenes.
As far as the notion of it being unscripted where the wrestlers do their own promos, storylines and matches themselves, I dunno why it wouldn't. It'd ultimately be removing the middle man since the wrestlers would have to run the ideas by certain members of management just like the writers do. When it comes to a creative process of writing a story, book, poem, planning out ideas, arranging them in certain ways, etc., some people are going to be better at it than others just like some have a better delivery on the mic than some others, how some are more comfortable doing promos than others, how some are better inside the ring wrestling, etc. Is that really any different than a team of bookers/writers doing it? Not really. In NXT, Triple H has the wrestlers use their own words & thoughts and the only aspect of a script involved are a few bullet points that the wrestler is supposed to touch on in the promo.
Professional wrestling without a script would ultimately be nothing more than what MMA ultimately is, which is shoot fighting, and it'd be courting disaster. Look at how many wrestlers could wind up being injured or outright crippled. Also, personally, I find real fighting to be kinda boring. A pro wrestling match is more like some sort of planned, choreographed fight you'd see on television or in the movies. It's designed to look visually great while simultaneously as safe as they can be. Doesn't mean wrestlers don't get hurt or injured, just as can happen in movie or TV fight scenes.
As far as the notion of it being unscripted where the wrestlers do their own promos, storylines and matches themselves, I dunno why it wouldn't. It'd ultimately be removing the middle man since the wrestlers would have to run the ideas by certain members of management just like the writers do. When it comes to a creative process of writing a story, book, poem, planning out ideas, arranging them in certain ways, etc., some people are going to be better at it than others just like some have a better delivery on the mic than some others, how some are more comfortable doing promos than others, how some are better inside the ring wrestling, etc. Is that really any different than a team of bookers/writers doing it? Not really. In NXT, Triple H has the wrestlers use their own words & thoughts and the only aspect of a script involved are a few bullet points that the wrestler is supposed to touch on in the promo.
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Too much money and danger in the industry to even consider such a thing. No offense, I have nothing against LARPing or the people that do it but it seems pretty slow and not that entertaining compared to professional wrestling. Putting the creative power and booking in the wrestlers hands is a recipe for disaster. Some of these wrestlers are not incredibly bright and all are looking to make themselves look the best. Without leadership and authority ordering them to stick to some level of predetermined script and the product would fail miserably. Something as simple as ending a match so that you can fit in the promised number of commercials would not work.
While I do agree that actors deserve some semblance of opinion in their roles and that maybe WWE is too strict about their direction, letting the inmates run the asylum would be crazy.
Wrestler X: I'm sorry your honor, I really thought it would generate a lot of heat if I punched out the grandma in row 12 and forced myself sexually on her grandson. Don't you know anything about professional wrestling?
While I do agree that actors deserve some semblance of opinion in their roles and that maybe WWE is too strict about their direction, letting the inmates run the asylum would be crazy.
Wrestler X: I'm sorry your honor, I really thought it would generate a lot of heat if I punched out the grandma in row 12 and forced myself sexually on her grandson. Don't you know anything about professional wrestling?
