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Christy Hemme Upset At Austin Aries?, Details

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This is stupid by Aries, it is, but I lol'd at first.

Aries' just fucking screws up here. Basically sticking his sack in her face because a) he is genuinely pissed (it just shows) , well thats it. He is pissed and THATS whats wrong. He looks like he wants to smack her, and basically does the next worst thing.

Hemme again brushes it off and well, I hope she gets an apology, and not an angle outta this.
 
Harassment? I wouldn't consider it harassment at all.

And you think if he did that to Borash it would also be sexual harassment. Okay, so what if he did it to Christopher Daniels in the proceeding match and it wasn't planned? Would that be sexual harassment too?

Your attempts at justifying your misogyny are fairly pathetic.

The spots not planned? And Daniels complains the same way? Yes; it's harassment.

How does this not register?
 
I'd like to stick my junk in the face of a lot of people in this thread.

No consent necessary. It's on the house, guys!
 
Harassment? I wouldn't consider it harassment at all.

And you think if he did that to Borash it would also be sexual harassment. Okay, so what if he did it to Christopher Daniels in the proceeding match and it wasn't planned? Would that be sexual harassment too?
If it was AJ Styles it would be sexual harassment. If it was Hulk Hogan it would be sexual harassment. If it was Dixie Carter it would be sexual harassment.


Lets put this in a normal work environment. Lets say you work at an office, and (after a mistake) a coworker walks up to you and puts their genitalia in your face, right in front of their boss. the offender will be fired or suspended on the spot. Just because this work environment is on television doesn't make the offense any different. Austin Aries should be suspended immediately, and if TNA chose to release him then good.
 
Anyone trying to justify what Aries did is either an idiot or a misogynist. The most pathetic argument is, "Well he's a heel and he had to retaliate because that's his character," as if the only conceivable way for him to retaliate was to stick his crotch in her face. He had already cornered her, which in and of itself is already in questionable taste, and made her correct herself. Is that not a heel move? What about messing with her when she's making the next introductions?

By defending Austin Aries you are saying that a mistake made by a woman should be punished by public sexual humiliation.
 
So it's a confirmed shoot? Aww shit, Aries is gone. He deserves to go.

TNA is a little edgier than its bigger counterpart, so one could see how this could very well be a work.

It isn't, however, so TNA has to suspend him, at least. Public apology, fines, jobber status for the rest of the year would all be in order too.
 
Surely a chauvinist like you doesn't believe things should be entirely dependent on the whims of the female mind.

Vega laid out pretty much the only scenario where Aries could be behaving inappropriately.

Don't be fooled by Madden, he is just grinding his axe as usual. If you think he cares about "the real issue" then you are a moron.

I think you're missing my point. I don't give a shit what Madden says. I don't give a shit if Aries gets fired or suspended. I don't like people who physically intimidate others who cannot do anything to defend themselves. I really don't like it when they do it only because they can't defend themselves.

I don't like bitch men.
 
Anyone trying to justify what Aries did is either an idiot or a misogynist. The most pathetic argument is, "Well he's a heel and he had to retaliate because that's his character," as if the only conceivable way for him to retaliate was to stick his crotch in her face. He had already cornered her, which in and of itself is already in questionable taste, and made her correct herself. Is that not a heel move? What about messing with her when she's making the next introductions?

By defending Austin Aries you are saying that a mistake made by a woman should be punished by public sexual humiliation.

This is at least as much of an overreaction as those saying he did nothing wrong. I won't throw around any insults but those that steadfastly refuse to consider the context the event occurred in are making mistakes as well. I thought the latest main page article did a good job taking an intelligent look at the situation. When the main page discussion trumps the forums I think we all need to take a hard look in the mirror.
 
Chavo Guerrero has chimed in on the Austin Aries/Christy Hemme situation, and the report that Mark Madden posted where he got quotes from a Spike TV Executive. Here is what Guerrero posted on Twitter…


Great Job @MarkMaddenX for watering down wrestling even more. God forbid that a wrestler breaks out of the typical mold of being so scared
To show his personality on TV. U must’ve been going crazy during the “attitude era” with every cutting edge thing that Vince did!


& for the record, I saw Hemme after that segment, & she didn’t look bothered at all. Just saying…I was there
I’m the 1st one to stick up for women’s rights….but I stick up for EVERYONE’s rights. Men, women, children & animals!

I'd infract Chavo for his bad spelling, but regardless. Aries was scolded, Mark's an attention ****e, Hemme doesn't give a shit, internet over reacts and explodes.

Sounds like a good day.
 
Chavo Guerrero's also the guy who says John Cena isn't a good wrestler, so he's kind of a moron
 
I'd infract Chavo for his bad spelling, but regardless. Aries was scolded, Mark's an attention ****e, Hemme doesn't give a shit, internet over reacts and explodes.

Sounds like a good day.

I'm sure Chavo saw what he saw but just because Hemme wasn't screaming her head off and bawling her eyes out doesn't mean she wasn't bothered.

Chavo isn't a mind reader. Doesn't mean she wasn't fine but you're really jumping to conclusions if you take his word as Hemme not giving a shit.
 
It was a rib. If Madden was ever one of the boys, he'd know shit like that happens in the locker room all time. There wasn't anything sexual meant by it, just goofing off. If that's something that offends you, you aren't going to be in the wrestling business for long.
 
This is at least as much of an overreaction as those saying he did nothing wrong. I won't throw around any insults but those that steadfastly refuse to consider the context the event occurred in are making mistakes as well. I thought the latest main page article did a good job taking an intelligent look at the situation. When the main page discussion trumps the forums I think we all need to take a hard look in the mirror.

Except I did take the context of the event into consideration. She fucked up, and Aries had a reasonable right to do something to retaliate. Sticking his junk in her face was not within his rights. I fail to see how that is an overreaction.
 
Except I did take the context of the event into consideration. She fucked up, and Aries had a reasonable right to do something to retaliate. Sticking his junk in her face was not within his rights. I fail to see how that is an overreaction.

Oh good, this is already here.

When I watched what happened Christy seemed visibly upset and wanted him to get off her in a very real way. Hemme is the worst actress on any TV show ever and the idea she could act so well in this situation doesn't fly at all. She probably just decided to keep her mouth shut and do her job till a fan asked her about it on twitter and she let off some steam.

I can't see how any of you can say this isn't sexual harassment :shrug:
 
Except I did take the context of the event into consideration. She fucked up, and Aries had a reasonable right to do something to retaliate. Sticking his junk in her face was not within his rights. I fail to see how that is an overreaction.

This statement isn't much of an overreaction other than the requisite excessively descriptive face to balls interaction comment. However, calling people misogynists and saying they believe all women need to be publicly sexually humiliated is what I would describe as an overreaction. It isn't just you though. In fact you have been more reasonable than many. I find the whole what if you did this at a real job to be silly. Aries would have been fired from a real job for several reasons, including being in his underwear, before he even got anywhere near the ring. This situation is not directly comparable to a real office by any stretch of the imagination. Depending on your definition of defend then I find your statement troubling. There is such a thing as defending someone that you think didn't behave perfectly, just much less imperfectly than many are describing. There are levels of sexual harassment and I don't see how anyone being reasonable would contend this should be equally punished as the more agregious levels. I just don't think the vitriol matches the "crime" here. What we have is a questionable split second decision when in character as a bad guy, not a malevolently sexual individual. I am not saying that makes it right, just that this situation isn't solely dependent on the definition of sexual harassment that someone has googled.
 
Since I get the feeling you're referring to me on the overreaction dealiobob

However, calling people misogynists and saying they believe all women need to be publicly sexually humiliated is what I would describe as an overreaction.

Well it'll teach her not to screw up again! Genuinely hilarious moment.

That was the best part of the night. Austin Aries is the man.

It would appear that at least these two got their jollies jiggled by watching a woman degraded by a sexual act. Not sure how this can't be seen at least a sign of misogyny.

And don't get me wrong, this isn't exclusive to TNA fans, it's a good population of wrestling fans. We're talking about the same people that made Fandangoing a thing; this isn't exactly the MIT students of the world.

It isn't just you though. In fact you have been more reasonable than many. I find the whole what if you did this at a real job to be silly. Aries would have been fired from a real job for several reasons, including being in his underwear, before he even got anywhere near the ring.

Underwear is part of the job requirement, at least for the vast majority of wrestling.

Sexual harassment, on the other hand, innit. Though it is rampant through wrestling, and again, it isn't exclusive to TNA.

This situation is not directly comparable to a real office by any stretch of the imagination.

But it is. I get it, the wrestling ring isn't exactly your typical office. But sexual harassment is unwarranted, in both the wrestling ring, and the regular office.

Depending on your definition of defend then I find your statement troubling. There is such a thing as defending someone that you think didn't behave perfectly, just much less imperfectly than many are describing.

See, there's a fair point to that. But it's dependent on your tolerance of said imperfect act. Mine's pretty damn low, and I don't mind saying that, likely lower than just about everyone. Doesn't mean I'm right in the slightest, it's just the way I see it.

Your level of comfort with said act is up to you. Just don't be shocked if I feel you're wrong, and can back it up.

There are levels of sexual harassment and I don't see how anyone being reasonable would contend this should be equally punished as the more agregious levels.

Egregious. But that's actually very fair. This surely isn't the worst case of sexual harassment, even in the last year, with professional wrestling.

But sexual harassment is still sexual harassment

I just don't think the vitriol matches the "crime" here. What we have is a questionable split second decision when in character as a bad guy, not a malevolently sexual individual.

Which is fair enough, this isn't some act of rape from a hardened criminal. It's questionable, sure. And should he have shown some sign that he knew it was wrong, I'd be much more willing to grant that Austin Aries had a lapse of judgement, and moved on.

That didn't exactly happen, did it?

Austin Aries said:
Pretty nuts, some of the junk people get the balls to say over the net, knowing they couldn't to your face...Eh, anyway, time to sack out.

I am not saying that makes it right, just that this situation isn't solely dependent on the definition of sexual harassment that someone has googled.

See, here's the thing; it isn't just a definition googled (technically, Binged). It's the legal definition. Which means by the laws of America, yeah, it's still sexual harassment.

This isn't dependent on some google job. It's dependent on the law of America
 
It was funny upon original viewing an according to TNA themselves it's being handled, Aries will be disciplined. Why it this still being argued?
 

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