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Shocking. I hope he answers Crimsons open challenge. No idea really what they are doing. It makes me think even more that WWE doesn't see tna as a real competition. This is crazy tho.
Christian Cage Will Be At Slammiversary?
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Shocking. I hope he answers Crimsons open challenge. No idea really what they are doing. It makes me think even more that WWE doesn't see tna as a real competition. This is crazy tho.
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Wow. Very interesting. I'm almost certain this will be the Flair payback. A reigning WWE champion appearing at a TNA show. Fair play to both parties. This is arguably more meaningful than Flair's WWE appearance, as Christian is still fully active and fairly relevant.
Maybe he is the HOF entry? Pure tit for tat of course. I at least hope he's allowed to cut a promo putting TNA over.
Maybe he is the HOF entry? Pure tit for tat of course. I at least hope he's allowed to cut a promo putting TNA over.
VinnieSunshine
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Typical fanboy speculation.
Has it occurred to anyone (including those that are going to post a reply) that it could be Dixie feeding fans misinformation for Slammiversary? What if Christian is only going to be there visiting friends and Dixie is just trying to fuel fans so they will purchase the PPV in hopes of seeing him?
While I have no doubt that WWE and TNA may be working together in some capacity, IF Christian appears on TNA TV, it could be in a similar fashion as to when WWE and ECW crossed brands back in the 90s.
Besides...of ALLLLLLLL the talent TNA has, do you REALLY think the deal with WWE was to allow Christian an induction into TNAs HOF? What about the guys that helped build the company BEFORE Christian got there?
It all smells of a Dixie ruse to me. I think she is blowing smoke up our asses again.
Has it occurred to anyone (including those that are going to post a reply) that it could be Dixie feeding fans misinformation for Slammiversary? What if Christian is only going to be there visiting friends and Dixie is just trying to fuel fans so they will purchase the PPV in hopes of seeing him?
While I have no doubt that WWE and TNA may be working together in some capacity, IF Christian appears on TNA TV, it could be in a similar fashion as to when WWE and ECW crossed brands back in the 90s.
Besides...of ALLLLLLLL the talent TNA has, do you REALLY think the deal with WWE was to allow Christian an induction into TNAs HOF? What about the guys that helped build the company BEFORE Christian got there?
It all smells of a Dixie ruse to me. I think she is blowing smoke up our asses again.
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i can see it happening but maybe it is just for the fans (autographs, etc). having him on the ppv doesn't make much sense since he isn't there anymore and isn't going to be going back anytime soon and while i like the guy, i don't see him going into their hall of fame. but i could see him there since it is the 10 year anniversary.
XtheXlegacyX
YES! YES! YES!
It is very possible that Christian will just be there backstage as previously said, but it's also possible that he is the first HOF inductee. I would rather see somebody like Raven, or Jeff Jarrett be the first inductees, but you never know with TNA.
Two things.
1, Why Christian? im sure with Flair appearing at the biggest PPV of the year & HOF, would TNA have been better off trying for someone bigger than Christian.
2. Will WWE let Christian take the IC title & appear on the broadcast instead of just visiting.
Im actually surprised to have read that with his BULLSHIT lawsuit TNA has on WWE, how could they agree about this.
Like an above poster said about Dixie "blowing smoke up our asses", it seems to me another ploy by her to try and get some headlines for TNA.
"oh look Christian's coming to Slammiversary, lets roll the red carpet out, we've got A MAJOR PLAYER HERE"
If had been Cena or Taker, I could understand Dixie having a tweetgasm, but Christian......Really.....Really.....REALLY!!!!
As far as TNA's original idea for a HOF *cough, RIPOFF*, JJ should be the inductee, he created TNA afterall.
1, Why Christian? im sure with Flair appearing at the biggest PPV of the year & HOF, would TNA have been better off trying for someone bigger than Christian.
2. Will WWE let Christian take the IC title & appear on the broadcast instead of just visiting.
Im actually surprised to have read that with his BULLSHIT lawsuit TNA has on WWE, how could they agree about this.
Like an above poster said about Dixie "blowing smoke up our asses", it seems to me another ploy by her to try and get some headlines for TNA.
"oh look Christian's coming to Slammiversary, lets roll the red carpet out, we've got A MAJOR PLAYER HERE"
If had been Cena or Taker, I could understand Dixie having a tweetgasm, but Christian......Really.....Really.....REALLY!!!!
As far as TNA's original idea for a HOF *cough, RIPOFF*, JJ should be the inductee, he created TNA afterall.
TheHorndogSays
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I take this with a grain of salt. I really don't believe he even DESERVES to be in the Hall of Fame to be honest. I was never impressed with his TNA run. If anything I feel R-Truth (Ron Killings) or Mick Foley would be better suited for a spot in the TNA Hall of Fame. Especially Killings considering to date he is the ONLY african-american to hold either the NWA:TNA or TNA World Heavyweight Championship
I Dream of the day where wrestling promotions will come together and work with one another by "leasing" out contracts for talent that isn't getting used at the moment. It's a win win for everyone. But I'm surprised by this. Never thought Vince wouldn't let one of his stars go to another company, even if it's just for one night.
This will have as little 'Impact' as Jeff Hardy/RVD/Ken Kennedy combined. Christian is one of the few veteran mid-carders that does a good job at building younger talent up and Jay also knows where the real money and PR is at so jump or no jump it's not that big of a deal. Looking on the Orton thing if he got fired by know means is he a game changer and neither will Christian.
Jeremy5144
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Honestly I'd love to see some cross-promotion happening. The WWE product has gotten a little stale and it's good that Vince may see some opportunity in doing some good business and spark interest back.
I know that TNA is not quite at the caliber of WWE Raw but what about WWE Smackdown. I think also it wouldn't hurt maybe doing a theme where you see talent from both ends challenging each other at times.
There's a ton of TNA talent that would work well with WWE talent and it can all be on the Smackdown brand if need be. I personally would love to see the following dream matches:
Sting vs Undertaker, Angle vs. Swagger, Hardy vs. CM Punk or Daniel Bryan or AJ Styles vs CM Punk or Daniel Bryan. Matt Morgan vs Big Show or heck even Crimson vs. Ryback.
The possibilities are endless in my opinion. Why not give it a shot and see what happens.
I know that TNA is not quite at the caliber of WWE Raw but what about WWE Smackdown. I think also it wouldn't hurt maybe doing a theme where you see talent from both ends challenging each other at times.
There's a ton of TNA talent that would work well with WWE talent and it can all be on the Smackdown brand if need be. I personally would love to see the following dream matches:
Sting vs Undertaker, Angle vs. Swagger, Hardy vs. CM Punk or Daniel Bryan or AJ Styles vs CM Punk or Daniel Bryan. Matt Morgan vs Big Show or heck even Crimson vs. Ryback.
The possibilities are endless in my opinion. Why not give it a shot and see what happens.
Except that Christian Cage IS a MAJOR player in TNA, he was the FIRST guy to jump ship and give TNA a chance. Last week they even showed his debut in the best of 10 TNA years and people were finding it odd, we now know why.
Christian going to Slammiversary is a big deal I would say it's bigger than Flair attending the HoF depending on what Christian does at the PPV.
Now I think that maybe he will be their first inductee, but it would be strange.
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Christian Cage doesn't deserve to be in the TNA Hall-of-Fame, but Mick Foley does? Am I the only one who's seeing the failure to launch here? You wanna talk about an unimpressive run...
Killings is an intriguing name, but he was the only African American to hold the NWA title, not the TNA title. He never won the TNA title, ever.
Cage may not be the best of names, but he has notoriety because in reality he was one of the biggest names to jump ship. He came before Angle.
WWEIsLife2
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This doesn't make any sense. Why would Christian who has been back in the WWE for the past couple years and is now IC Champion show up at Slammiversary? Ok sure he was there for a couple years and was a 2x Champion but so what,who thats come from WWE and gone back not been TNA Champion other than Booker T?
Do you know how long it took me to stop calling him Christian Cage? Years. All that hard work undone with one careless thread title.
If Christian actually appears on camera - and Mike Tenay says something to the effect of "Yo, dat's my boy Christian, dawg! He in my fave five!" - then I'll probably get that weird tingly feeling I get when I see people appearing on television shows they're not usually on. It'd be neat to have the current WWE Intercontinental Champion on TNA television, can't say I'll recognise its significance beyond that.
Feel free to count me among those that thinks Christian is more than deserving of a spot in the TNA Hall of Fame. Christian was tremendous in TNA.
If Christian actually appears on camera - and Mike Tenay says something to the effect of "Yo, dat's my boy Christian, dawg! He in my fave five!" - then I'll probably get that weird tingly feeling I get when I see people appearing on television shows they're not usually on. It'd be neat to have the current WWE Intercontinental Champion on TNA television, can't say I'll recognise its significance beyond that.
Feel free to count me among those that thinks Christian is more than deserving of a spot in the TNA Hall of Fame. Christian was tremendous in TNA.
Jump? I highly doubt this is a "jump". Christian is WWE's Intercontinental Champion.
If he actually publicly appears on TNA cameras, then it's the agreed tradeoff for letting Ric Flair appear at the WWE Hall of Fame ceremony this year. And if that's true, take a minute to think about it. WWE knew they'd let Christian do this as early as late March, but let Christian pick up the IC title in mid May? It doesn't sound like they're too threatened by the idea of one of their reigning champions make a TNA appearance. Some people just want to try to make a whole bunch of something out of nothing.
Oh and Jeff Jarrett should definitely be the guy to be inducted AND, if Dixie is just blowing smoke about this topic, TNA will get a lot of heat if Christian Cage doesn't appear.
If he actually publicly appears on TNA cameras, then it's the agreed tradeoff for letting Ric Flair appear at the WWE Hall of Fame ceremony this year. And if that's true, take a minute to think about it. WWE knew they'd let Christian do this as early as late March, but let Christian pick up the IC title in mid May? It doesn't sound like they're too threatened by the idea of one of their reigning champions make a TNA appearance. Some people just want to try to make a whole bunch of something out of nothing.
Oh and Jeff Jarrett should definitely be the guy to be inducted AND, if Dixie is just blowing smoke about this topic, TNA will get a lot of heat if Christian Cage doesn't appear.
SixMovesOfDoom
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My thinking is that if they show him at all, it will just be some shout out as he sits in the audience with some other wrestlers who used to be in TNA. Something akin to how occasionally celebrities in the audience are pointed out by the commentators and the camera pans over them.
Jeremy5144
Dark Match Winner
Seriously if this works out and it's indeed a talent switch I wonder if this means we could see more of this in the future. I have goosebumps just thinking about it.
If they are swapping talent lets say for example:
Undertaker comes out and all of a sudden lights go out and Sting appears on Raw episode 1000 setting up a summer feud. Or Angle comes back to a WWE Raw audience for the 1000 would be also epic.
In exchange we could see R-Truth showing up in TNA or heck how about CM Punk in TNA to challenge Roode to really see who is the Best in the World.
Seriously if they do that it would be huge for the wrestling business.
If they are swapping talent lets say for example:
Undertaker comes out and all of a sudden lights go out and Sting appears on Raw episode 1000 setting up a summer feud. Or Angle comes back to a WWE Raw audience for the 1000 would be also epic.
In exchange we could see R-Truth showing up in TNA or heck how about CM Punk in TNA to challenge Roode to really see who is the Best in the World.
Seriously if they do that it would be huge for the wrestling business.
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Naïvity running wilder than Hulkamania in this thread already.
Folks — think realistically here. This is HIGHLY unlikely to be anything more than a returning favor for TNA granting WWE/Ric Flair the opportunity to be seen on WWE television despite still being under contract for TNA at the time.
This is not the start of some inter-promotional war or anything of the sort.
Folks — think realistically here. This is HIGHLY unlikely to be anything more than a returning favor for TNA granting WWE/Ric Flair the opportunity to be seen on WWE television despite still being under contract for TNA at the time.
This is not the start of some inter-promotional war or anything of the sort.
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Holy shit, I think this is pretty amazing, if true, props to WWE for letting this happen!
So as everyone has read by now, Dixie Carter in what has to be one of her more stupider moves to date, tweeted that Christian will be AT Slammerversary. Quickly as to why it is stupid, well for starters way to kill any shock and surprise value, and two for someone who is suppose to be in the middle of a potential marriage ending love triangle, should tweeting be her main focus at the moment??
Now as to the point of my thread, there is some speculation and i repeat only speculation that Christian may be the 1st TNA HOF name announced on Sunday. If I am a member of the TNA locker room espically a certain group of people, I am beyond insulted. There is no denying that Cage wass the first "BIG" name to jump, and had a great run for the most part. However, for him to be the first name inducted over say AJ Styles, Jeff Jarrett, Daniels, Joe, and quite a few others who helped get TNA to a place where a talent like Christian would even consider jumping to is not right. Don't get me wrong I am not discrediting Christian's place, however as a rumored 1st name inducted, while under contract to WWE doesn't sit right.
IMO the perfect 1st inductee to the TNA HOF would not be 1 person, it would be 3. AJ Styles, Daniels, and Samoa Joe for those amazing X-Division 3 way dances they had years back. If not, collectively or AJ by himself as the 1st, then even Angle makes more sense or Sting since this is more or less his last run, but Cage, def not.
Any thoughts?
Now as to the point of my thread, there is some speculation and i repeat only speculation that Christian may be the 1st TNA HOF name announced on Sunday. If I am a member of the TNA locker room espically a certain group of people, I am beyond insulted. There is no denying that Cage wass the first "BIG" name to jump, and had a great run for the most part. However, for him to be the first name inducted over say AJ Styles, Jeff Jarrett, Daniels, Joe, and quite a few others who helped get TNA to a place where a talent like Christian would even consider jumping to is not right. Don't get me wrong I am not discrediting Christian's place, however as a rumored 1st name inducted, while under contract to WWE doesn't sit right.
IMO the perfect 1st inductee to the TNA HOF would not be 1 person, it would be 3. AJ Styles, Daniels, and Samoa Joe for those amazing X-Division 3 way dances they had years back. If not, collectively or AJ by himself as the 1st, then even Angle makes more sense or Sting since this is more or less his last run, but Cage, def not.
Any thoughts?
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Well, we all KNOW the Dixie Carter thing is an angle, I personally find the whole tweeting in kayfabe thing to be incredibly lame.
Why did she announce it before and not make it a surprise? Because the goal in wrestling is to make money, PPV buys in this case, more people will be interested.
If he is the first inducted so what? I'm sure the people you mentioned will be inducted eventually so what's the issue?
Why did she announce it before and not make it a surprise? Because the goal in wrestling is to make money, PPV buys in this case, more people will be interested.
If he is the first inducted so what? I'm sure the people you mentioned will be inducted eventually so what's the issue?
TheNickster
Dark Match Winner
Interesting, considering Christian is employed with WWE.
I think Christian would make a great addition to the HOF if they induct him. He won a good deal of titles and was pretty fun to watch in the ring. HOWEVER...
I think that the first person to be inducted should be Double J; Jeff Jarret. The guy founded the company, and has had some great matches in the past.
I think Christian would make a great addition to the HOF if they induct him. He won a good deal of titles and was pretty fun to watch in the ring. HOWEVER...
I think that the first person to be inducted should be Double J; Jeff Jarret. The guy founded the company, and has had some great matches in the past.
The Dragon Saga
Whale in a Teardrop
Was going to watch TNA Slammiversary anyway, a Christian appearance only adds to the overall product which shall be on show this Sunday.
No, it's nothing like that. Do you see TNA contracted employees ransacking Monday Night RAW? No, what you see is the product of a deal. Ric Flair goes to WWE's Hall of Fame for the night, Christian comes to TNA for a night. Pretty simple and effective.
Whether he is inducted or not, is irrelevant. His appearance in any form is the matter at hand. Plus, Christian has a large part in TNA's history. He was the first person to make the jump from WWE to TNA, not Angle, not Hardy, Christian. Hardy got released and joined before Christian turned down a WWE contract and joined. He is a former two time NWA World Heavyweight Champion within the promotion, sold the most merchandise, can be labeled a verified draw for the promotion. Despite leaning towards Jarrett, I'm just as happy at a Christian induction if it happens, he deserves it.
Name me a couple of occasions that Dixie has "blown smoke" up your ass there when you have the chance. Oh, and by the way, replying with how she typically announces "big announcements" on Twitter doesn't count, because she usually delivers.
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Something I can't help wondering... if this deal was indeed made at the same time of the Flair HOF thing, don't you think it's odd WWE actually made Christian the IC champion at this time? If I were Vince I'd have just made Christian a jobber during this period or something lol
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