Cena vs Punk (Who's gonna be Shawn and who's gonna be Bret?)

[SickJames]

I loved The Montreal Screwjob, and revisiting it has been fun via The Rock's Survivor Series win in 1998, the CM Punk/Taker Survivor Series finish a few year back... and well, TNA's try was just a little sad imo.

But the point is we've seen many different spoofs of what was a very real moment, the realistic occurance in wrestling to get so much heat...

So I'm thinking, people were looking at Punk's promo unsure of whether it was eral, scripted or scripted and taken too far, but it's obvious it's scripted and the only thing I have on my mind after watching Raw is pure excitement over the fact that this spoof may be the best spoof on the incident ever.

I just cant see it not happening. And it may not be real, but the build to it and considering who is the Bret Hart in this angle, it could be huge. People have always said the only way you could turn Cena heel is have him go over Taker at Mania via screwjob, well that aint happening, but here's one that COULD.

He takes all the kids, mind you, by surprise and aligns with Vince (ala Austin/Vince WMX7) and in a Montreal Incident type way

He could tell his fans how he loves the business so much that if saving the company and the company's title meant resurrecting the strategy that saved the company nearly nine years ago, then it's worth it and what he had to do. Or maybe he doesnt say that.


I could really see Vince screwing Punk with Cena or screwing Cena with Punk, or screwing one or the other THEN pulling a double screwjob agent angle bringing in Del Rio to beat the winner of the initial match as the winner of the Triple Threat we saw on Raw claiming that gave him the opportunity or what if Batista came back or the Anonymous Raw GM thing fed into this? or Punk being the leader of the new Nexus, what if the OLD Nexus agenda (that was never known) came into play

I think there's a lot you can do with this just wanted to hear ppl's thoughts

(at the library limited on time, my pc is down, so couldnt write like i wanted to, anyway got the main stuff in)

 

[scottmcgaffin123]

I agree!! I can definitely smell a screwjob coming!

After Mondays RAW i either see Vince Screwing over Cena or screwing both over so Punk leaves without the title and Cena being fired !!

I see Vince Calling the bell while Punk has Cena in the annocanda Vise ! and then to get the Title of Punk, call out the winner of the RAW or Smackdown MITB ladder match winner and beat Punk

 

[WWWYKI777]

Well HOPEFULLY John Cena is the bret of the screwjob if one happens

Maybe if Punk wins then either A.He stays , its all part of the "Much bigger picture" Nexus had mentioned so long ago. B.He leaves , Wade Barrett cashes in MITB and retakes Nexus , still being part of the "Much bigger picture"? Would hope so

I want to see Cena get "Fired" and come back as a heel , I hear he has alot of nagging injuries hes been working through and he needs the time off anyway , plus when he comes back he comes back as a heel and still goes into WM Vs. Rock as a heel making a big impact

Yeah I think theres something that could be said for the anon GM too , he could come into this in some way too

 

[mrpops]

Argh not another montreal screwjob please. Boring.

For the love of god let CM punk win clean and have cena fired. This should be an epic battle of CM punk riding into the sunset in his hometown crowd and giving a giant F-U to WWE and then have vince strip him of the title when midnight hits. Like who cares? Hes leaving the company. Let him go out on a high note instead of giving us another shitty montreal screwjob angle.

EDIT: Burying or making the guy who is leaving your company lose gives everyone a bad taste in their mouths. OMG im vince and your leaving?! Well im going to make you lose! Fuck you CM PUNK!....

CM PUNKS like....uh why wouldnt you want to suck my dick? Dont you want me to come back? Im actually great at my job. Why bury me in my hometown. Why not try to convince me to re-sign?

Vince: Im an old stubborn piece of shit that created the current company to live in mediocrity because you losers will tune in every week regardless of what the fuck i show or not.

 

[Cena's #1 In My Heart]

I really like the OP's idea of a double screwjob with Alberto Del Rio and Vince McMahon screwing over both John Cena and CM Punk.

Can you imagine how over Alberto Del Rio would get just from being involved in something like that, that saw CM Punk walk away without the WWE Title and John Cena get fired?

I'm all for that. As for Punk and Vince working together... IDK.. Unless Vince drastically changes his company...

 

[Midnite Express 2009]

Argh not another montreal screwjob please. Boring.

For the love of god let CM punk win clean and have cena fired. This should be an epic battle of CM punk riding into the sunset in his hometown crowd and giving a giant F-U to WWE and then have vince strip him of the title when midnight hits. Like who cares? Hes leaving the company. Let him go out on a high note instead of giving us another shitty montreal screwjob angle.

God, I agree but you beat me to me. Why can't these two be themselves? Look, what happened in 1997 was based on real life circumstances. Nobody knew Bret was leaving. NOBODY. Well except three people. Other than that, Vince did what he really had to do for his company. NOT for some angle or storyline. NOT for a two-week prior promo (which, in my opinion now looking back on it, I wish the promo was done NEXT week so that nobody would know what in the hell was going to happen. Now, it's just another angle. Gee, thanks a lot lol). This isn't going to be a revisit of Montreal or anything. It's not the Chicago Screwjob. It'll be a WWE screwjob in the sense that it's the angle, not real life that gets involved. Not everything should be repeated history wise.

 

[willross]

This is what I WANT to see happen and is a pretty realistic situation.

Punk wins. VKM comes out and goes, "John Cena, you're FI---" and is interupted by the RAW MITB winner, who, with help from Vince (maybe even Cena aswell) successfully cashes in on CM Punk.

Cena being screwed can only work if Punk is staying cause then it turns into an angle where Vince is making Punk the new face of WWE and kicking Cena to the curb. Obviously he won't be leaving and some sort of Board of Directors decision will be made to keep Cena.

I think Punk has to win the title but not leave as champion. Someone has to beat him immediately after so that we get the shocker of Punk winning because it is an obviously fair prediction that Cena wins and wins cleanly.

Punk is a wrestlers wrestler and the credo of a wrestlers wrestler is "If you go out, you go out on your back putting someone over". Punk has too much respect for the business to not go out on his back, he is not a mark (if he was, he would of taken the money from the almighty VKM and WWE)

 

[Strife3]

This honestly seems like a no brainer. Vince said he has no faith in Cena. I honestly think that he will pull off something to keep the WWE Title in WWE. Honestly I think that what will happen is Alberto will run in and cause the DQ, Vince will send him down to make sure that Punk doesn't walk out with the title and because of that Alberto will get the next title shot.

 

[CaptAwesome]

I can honorestly see vince screwing cena, then getting on the mic saying wrestling is going to back what ppl loved, none his supercena bullshit games getting rid of the PG rating. punk wins and some1 cashes in the MITB

 

[mral82]

If anybody is gonna be the Bret its Cena and the reason is they were both fan favorites at their peak. Why does everybody think Del Rio deserves anything my pick would b R-Truth and Vince workin together. Del Ripo doesn't deserve anthing right now. Truth on the other hand has gotten screwed at every oppurtunity and this would set-up for Truth vs Morrison at Survivor Series for the WWE Title.

 

[Schwing]

I can't imagine a scenario I'd like to see less than this. I hate reworkings of old angles and, although most things have been done before, they are normally more subtle. This would be no different that redoing DX or The Austin/McMahon feud. How about the return of the Ministry? These were huge storylines that shouldn't ever be done again. The fact that The Screwjob was real and has been overdone already 5-6 times means that I'd rather see any of the other three examples happening, despite them making absolutely no sense in context, before another screwjob happens.

 

[Chopper]

It is rumored that CM Punk has already secretly re-signed with WWE. I don't really see a screwjob coming.
If anything, he loses cleanly and goes to ROH and immediately wins their title. What better way to launch their TV program than their biggest name in the company's history?

 

[Gore Illa]

IMO the only way a screwjob would work is if Punk is screwed, Cena is turned into a tweener, since outside of Chicago and the IWC, Punk is still a heel and the 6-13 audience Cena is aimed towards doesn't care about Punk or the stuff he mentioned in the promo. The McMahons' excuse would be that they didn't trust him. This sets up a big return to take down Del Rio and the McMahons (who should be the top heel on Raw early next year) around Wrestlemania. Kind of like a reverse version of the Orton-HHH feud from WM25.

But this time, the dude who should screw Punk should be Triple H or Shane McMahon. This sets up a new on-screen authority figure to replace the stale Mr. McMahon gimmick, and if it's Triple H, it's a double swerve since he's universally viewed as a face.

 

[WRESTLING_GENIUS]

I think its prettyclear there will be no screwjob Punk is gonna win, Cena is gonna get fired and MITB is gonna get cashed in the same night exceptit will be RAW this time and the titlewill be safe in WWE... And yes I know im a genuis....

 

[Shawn]

Wow. All of these replies just sound like pathetic dreams of WWE getting rid of Cena as the face of the company. Everyone needs to face the fact that Cena is goin to be the face for quite sometime to come, or at least up until Wrestlemania because hes already in one of the biggest main events in Mania history. Now, its hard tellin what will happen with Punk. It does kinda remind me about the Montreal screwjob but guys that was real this is fake. The WWE can take any direction they want from this. It could even change between now and MITB. To be honest, Punk may not have signed back yet (he probably hasnt because we've heard nothing about it, but nothings impossible). Plus Punks contract isnt really up till September or at least thats what was first reported. So my point is that this rilvary could continue on to SummerSlam because stars can also sign little 1 month extensions if they choose to. So anything could happen.

 

[SecondCitySaint]

It is rumored that CM Punk has already secretly re-signed with WWE. I don't really see a screwjob coming.
If anything, he loses cleanly and goes to ROH and immediately wins their title. What better way to launch their TV program than their biggest name in the company's history?

My hopes are set very high that Punk will return to ROH. However, it is absolutely insane to think the officials in ROH are going to strip Davey Richards of the title immediately after he wins it in an epic match. If anything, CM Punk ought to return and challenge for the title, put on another 5-star match, which he is more than capable of doing, and lose to Richards. Punk is not staying gone for too long. ROH needs another huge name to help continue their legacy. Davey Richards is that man.

 

[WRESTLING_GENIUS]

Wow. All of these replies just sound like pathetic dreams of WWE getting rid of Cena as the face of the company. Everyone needs to face the fact that Cena is goin to be the face for quite sometime to come, or at least up until Wrestlemania because hes already in one of the biggest main events in Mania history. Now, its hard tellin what will happen with Punk. It does kinda remind me about the Montreal screwjob but guys that was real this is fake. The WWE can take any direction they want from this. It could even change between now and MITB. To be honest, Punk may not have signed back yet (he probably hasnt because we've heard nothing about it, but nothings impossible). Plus Punks contract isnt really up till September or at least thats what was first reported. So my point is that this rilvary could continue on to SummerSlam because stars can also sign little 1 month extensions if they choose to. So anything could happen.

I feel you all i was saying tho is that Cena gets fired(again) and this starts a storyline with Cena trying to get back in the WWE(again) in time for Mania to face Rock, except this time its more legit looking with this storyline going on, and If Punk hasnt resigned(which i doubt and like you said his contract is suppose to be up in september) well everyone leaves happy Punk wins the WWE Championship in front of his hometown crowd, only to lose it to the next face other than John Cena, Orton, and HHH with the Championship on RAW, just a great idea that is the most likely to happen, NOT A SCREWJOB Blah!!!

 

[dman1373]

john cena can't be either because he can't wrestle. But if you mean who will be dooped, then cena will. It would just not make any sense for cena begging for this match if it was just going to turn into him cm punk. Thats something ruso would do.

 

[SecondCitySaint]

Baddass79, there is still the chance that Punk wins cleanly over Cena and loses it immediately to the MITB winner. Any hope of him rehashing his 2005 storyline from ROH is basically dashed, I will say. He's looked at as a rebel with a bad attitude already, and this just pushed the envelope further. I am going to believe that he is completely done following MITB. That's good for us ROH faithful, though.

 

[baddass79]

i highly doubt it man they have plans on cena keeping the title till wm and del rio vs cena seems to be pencilled in for summer slam all ready with cena goin over him as well
punk is gone so i expect cena to win clean and punk to leave chicago one last time

 

[gurvinder372]

If Cena is injured or taking time off, then Vince has to fire Cena for humiliating him (by questioning him publicly) and punk needs to stay with Vince convincing Punk to stay by raising his hands after victory over Cena. Cena would look devastated though he would accept the decision since he is a character would take everything in his stride. He would congratulate Punk for Victory and is about to leave the arena. Vince will tell him that he is not going to let Cena have any last words of farewell, as he had manipulated his company's policies in the past to allow Cena to have farewell despite being fired. Cena will again accept that without dissent though it would be very painful to him to not to have any last words with his fans. Cena will wave and clap hands with fans on his way outside with Punk and Vince watching.

Punk, however, should then have a change of heart and he would show some dissent to Vince. Vince will then call out MITB winner (as his backup plan) and help him beat punk. Punk would be pissed off again with both Vince and MITB winner (Wade Barrett), thus re-igniting the feud between Punk and Barrett with Punk being turned the tweener/face type.

This would not only establish Punk as a man of some principles (though with some conflict and hypocrisy involved) but also leave a cliffhanger that whether he will leave or not. Wade Barrett will again be in lime-light with Vince's backing. Another side angle of Barrett loosing the emotional support of his Core team, since his team would feel that Wade has started ignoring them and wade don't need them.

Now, if punk stays then he and wade can give intense promos after promos with arguments back and forth in an attempt to win the Vince recognition and stay on top, thus leading to 'Attempting to be Vince Best A$$ kisser' storyline showing that how ugly things can get without 'Hustle Loyalty and Respect'. Punk and Wade breaking ethics/rules after ethics/rules to win vince backing.

I guess this is exactly what WWE needs to do in Cena's absence, to eventually build up Cena's comeback, making Cena's comeback an event of the year.

 

[TWJC: The Beginning]

Neither one is either. Shawn was a spoiled little brat and Bret was an unprofessional jerk who took himself too seriously and was too much of a mark to do the right thing.

Punk is a great worker and will get anyone over, Cena is the ultimate company man.