Bryan VS McMahon?

[Jack-Hammer]

I read a little piece at pwtorch.com, an opinion piece by James Cadwell, in which he believes that WWE MAY be setting up a Daniel Bryan vs. Vince McMahon feud in which there's long term animosity between them like we saw during the Austin vs. McMahon feuds. They're obviously not going to rehash with the same formula for the two as Bryan is a very different character from Austin. I doubt we'll see Bryan flipping Vince the bird or letting loose a string of four letter words redneck style, even though he looks more like a redneck than Austin ever did.

If this does indeed look to be some sort of an ongoing feud between them, then I'm guessing that Vince has plans for Daniel Bryan to be a long term, top level star in WWE. Whenever Vince gets involved with someone as part of a "feud", it usually means that this person is destined for big things. During the Attitude Era, we saw Vince have feuds with Stone Cold, The Rock, Triple H, Shawn Michaels, Mick Foley, & The Undertaker. Two years ago, we saw the beginning of CM Punk being elevated to the upper tier of the company with his anti-corporate rebel character in which he was into it with Vince and Triple H. Punk's storyline issues with Vince would continue occasionally off & on during Punks 434 day run as WWE Champion. Vince's various programs with Punk weren't nearly as physical as they were with Attitude Era stars, hardly surprising considering that Vince is well into his 60s, and will be 68 years old by the end of next month. Bottom line is that whenever Vince engages in a storyline feud with a member of the roster, it's a good sign for that wrestler.

Last night's segment on Raw was a good progression of this in which it moved from Vince merely hinting at Bryan's inadequacies or "voicing" them through his "puppet" like Brad Maddox. Bryan wasn't all super aggressive towards Vince last night, or vice versa, but he sort of used Vince's own words against him to sort of put him in his place, at least for that particular segment. Vince's insults to Bryan's appearance didn't go over the top while Bryan's somewhat casual response to Vince wasn't too casual. They didn't try to do too much last night, which I think is the way to go about it.

Later on in the night, Vince said that he didn't want Bryan or Cena to be WWE Champion but that he wanted it to be someone like Triple H, only 20+ years younger. To me, this seems to be more little hints that Randy Orton is going to be aligning with Vince for the purpose of Orton being what, in Vince's mind, the WWE Champion should be. After all, Orton's got the handsome appearance and the "ruthless aggression".

So is this something that you're interested in?

Do you think it has the necessary steam to last possibly even to WrestleMania if they pace it out?

Could this ultimately mean big things for Daniel Bryan's WWE future long term?

 

[Pay Per Ghost]

I don't know where it is going but I feel a Survivor Series match lurking somewhere.

Team Vince vs Team H and shit. Vince has become involved with stoylines over the years with some good and terrible results. To be very honest, I wish Triple H and Steph are no where involved while Vince via Maddox starts booking Bryan in some tough matches WHEN he becomes champion at SSlam.

I also have a sneaking suspicion, that Bryan might get screwed by VKM at SSlam. Maybe he brings out Orton ala Batista against Cena at the EC in 2010.

I just want Bryan to close the show screaming YES and as champion, the rest doesn't matter. After that, I wish we get a Bryan Vs Vince thing going.

 

[Skyeborne]

A lot of people said that the segment between Vince and Bryan was horrible, but I thought it was actually really good in furthering the feud between Cena and Bryan, Vince and Triple H, Vince and Bryan, as well as continuing with the story that Vince doesn't like Maddox as GM. Maddox only being Vince's puppet.

I am really hoping that this will only send Bryan even further up. The first couple of thoughts I had with the segment was maybe this is trying to bring Cena down and push Bryan up. Not taking Cena down all the way, but in hopes that we are going to see multiple top stars instead of just one. Wrestling was better when there were a lot of people on top. The other thing that I had going through my mind was what Vince was actually thinking. This feud isn't far from reality, Vince likes the people that look like Triple H, Batista, Ryback, not the small technical wrestlers. I was trying to figure out if Vince still feels that way, or if Vince changed because DB is bringing him money.

When Vince said he wanted someone who looks like Triple H, but only 20 years younger (or 23 possibly ) I took this as a hint as to who will be Vince's idea of a champion. Triple H is 44 years old so somebody 20-23 years younger would be 21-24 years old. Randy Orton is only 11 years younger than Triple H. So maybe Vince's guy is someone in NXT that is going to be brought up? I don't know, I'm probably overthinking this by a mile!

 

[Fire Marshall Bill]

I also have a sneaking suspicion, that Bryan might get screwed by VKM at SSlam. Maybe he brings out Orton ala Batista against Cena at the EC in 2010.

After last night I'm getting this impression as well. After saying he didn't want Cena or Bryan walking out as champion it fits very well. It would be a great way to turn Orton heel, especially if Bryan wins the match, which he should. VKM has already begun his heel turn, and bringing Orton out to take the title away from Bryan immediately after winning would get soooo much heat for both of them. I imagine this would happen after Cena leaves the ring and Bryan is chanting YES! with the crowd. VKM could even cause a "distraction" during the cash in to make Bryan lose. Or even go as far as have Bryan win and VKM restarts the match where Orton sneaks an RKO for the victory.

A Bryan/McMahon feud should certainly put Bryan over the top as a main star. He doesn't have that prototypical look, but he's so beyond over it's nuts and something VKM would be stupid to ignore. I would be very interested in it and would love to see where it went. The fire is already lit with all his name calling and picking on Bryan about his look.

 

[DetectiveZelix]

I'm with most of you here in the case of Vince bringing out Orton after Bryan wins the belt the same way he brought out Edge after Cena won the 2006 Elimation Chamber at New Years Revolution god I loved that moment. I would hope this becomes like a Triple H/Austin/Rock thing where all 3 men are feuding for the belt. Ortons aggression backed by Mcmahon. Bryans struggle against mainstream and the Powers that be and Cenas trying to stay on top knowing his time is coming to an end. Would make for a damn good feud if they expose each of these superstars ambitions. I would have been happier with McMahon backing his corporate clean champion John Cena vs the Scraggly little indy scrapper Bryan Danielson. That would have been awesome. But again that would turn heel and NOBODY wants that right? lol either way a direct feud with the Boss would do wonders for mr. Danielson. He doesnt fit the mold just like Austin didnt fit the mold. The thing is Bryan really doesnt fit. He doesnt seem dominant but he's got smart and is a snarky ass that has just the right combo of intelligence and genuine wrestling talent to get over the Mac. Not to mention overwhelming crowd support. Also, He does have that ruthless aggression. He showed plenty of it when proving he wasnt the weak link. Overflowing with aggression much like the Crippler himself. I hope the feud will turn Bryan into the manic gladiator that he always was and make him look like a legit main eventer

 

[Horatio Fellatio]

Daniel Bryan won't be anything in the WWE long-term. His time is up, Cena's time is now. Give him his silly little token shot at the belt and then send him packing to little league baby boy wrestling where he got his start. They could use untalented hacks like him, Cesaro, and Punk there.

They need to make room for the Roman Reigns era of WWE. An actual man, not a tiny little baby boy with a hippy beard.

 

[Degenerate88]

Daniel Bryan won't be anything in the WWE long-term. His time is up, Cena's time is now. Give him his silly little token shot at the belt and then send him packing to little league baby boy wrestling where he got his start. They could use untalented hacks like him, Cesaro, and Punk there.

They need to make room for the Roman Reigns era of WWE. An actual man, not a tiny little baby boy with a hippy beard.

I can't decipher if you're serious, or just plain ******ed? Talentless? Ok, you are just ******ed. You're remark about the Roman Reigns era of WWE almost proves that.

While I wouldn't mind seeing McMahon giving someone, especially Bryan, the rub needed to get over, i'm hopeful (aren't we all?) that this leads to a Cena heel turn, with Vince helping, ala Stone Cold @ WM17. Or maybe have Bryan walk out of SS as WWE Champion, and we see the McMahon/Cena team come in to play at Survivor series, with Vince helping Cena reclaim the gold. While this still keeps the Bryan vs McMahon aspect of things, with Cena representing Vince (as he always has).

 

[JBM]

This match has an incredible feel to it that I haven't felt in WWE for a long, long time. The face of the company in John Cena. The underdog and most over guy in the company since SCSA, Daniel Bryan. The former #2 guy in the company lurking in the background with the MIB breafcase just waiting to "strike" with past rumors of a big heel turn coming. (What better place then to screw over the most over guy in the company in some fashion?). Quiet undertones of the McMahon family becoming involved. There are a TON of possibilities on how this one could end, and the emotions of the fans are growing week by week as they become more invested in this.

I kind of wish there was a way that WWE could have started setting this up a couple months sooner because it "could" be a little rushed. But right now I'm ok with it.

With all the possibilities, my favorite is a McMahon/Orton allegience forming. As much as I would love to see DB win the belt, I'd love to see this whole thing continue. Having Orton screw DB and John Cena, allign himself with Vince as World Champion while DB and Cena are left perplexed. Not sure where they would go from there...Maybe have Cena and Bryan fight for the number 1 contender match? Or have a triple threat match down the road. It's nothing new in the business, but it's different then what we've seen in quite some time.

 

[Klown_Karnage]

I'd go along with those who say that the possibility of Vince feuding with Bryan can do him good if that's the way the WWE is leaning...and if both Vince and Bryan take full advantage of it. Bryan has a lot of potential as a sympathetic character, always has, and his "heroic" bent is best when it is against the biggest odds he can face...such as the head of the company (or rather the man who still thinks he's the head of the company depending on how you look at it). Bryan himself has many good points, his backstory is one most fans can get behind and is in direct opposition to VKM's own history. In addition (as has already been mentioned) VKM has a history of giving huge boosts to already rising wrestling careers by his involvement.

However, both sides will have to take full advantage to make it work. A lot of it is up to Bryan and fan reaction to him. He seems to be going strong now, but he'll have to keep that momentum up. It should also be mentioned that VKM's involvement does not necessarily mean good things. After all, he feuded with Zach Gowan and we all know how long that lasted.

 

[jeffrey9800]

Last week was the perfect week to put some real hype around the JC vs Bryan match,
Ruthless aggression: Bryan comes to the ring after Ryback cheapshots Cena and puts him through a table, so everyone thinks he's there to beat up Ryback, he takes Cena who is allready beaten down and puts him in the No lock for the longest time (Like Bret to Austin with the Sharshooter) when he's done ... he gets out of the ring to leave, Vince comes out up the ramp and looks at him, Bryan looks at him, gets back in the ring and really destroys Cena, chairs, tables whatever, while the crowd is mostly happy saying YES everytime he hesitates to give another blow to Cena, than, when Cena can't get up , zoom in on Vince who is clapping up the ramp, smiling, and you can read his lips saying, ruthlesssss... aggression... curtains down, thank you very much

 

[$uck my venis]

After SS match and Bryan wins, I think the Shield will come down and serve an injustice of Bryan winning, and Orton than cashes in on beaten down Bryan with McMahon standing over him. I am sure this will lead to a McMahon, Orton, and Shield Alliance

 

[Redemption-2012]

I already have my scenario mapped out for the Summerslam main event. Here is how it should play out:
John Cena and Daniel Bryan have an awesome match, Daniel Bryan gets the roll up pin on John Cena. As soon as Bryan starts celebrating with the crowd all chanting Yes! Vince's music hits. Vince says that does not want Bryan to be WWE champion and that he wants someone new as the champion. This leads to Randy Orton cashing in his contract and becoming the new WWE champion.

So it would be like a screwjob ALA Montreal Screwjob. This would get huge heat for Randy Orton for his long awaited heel turn that people have been clamoring for the past year or so. I personally believe this could generate a great angle for Night of Champions, possibly having a triple threat match at NOC. This also collides with the McMahon family story going on, it could cause even more friction between Triple H and McMahon. Damn! I am so excited for this scenario.

 

[Nyce18]

I enjoy this thread because as soon as that segment with Vince, Triple H, and Steph wrapped up backstage it immediately reminded me of the legendary Austin/McMahon feud 15 years ago, and thats a good thing! The whole anti-Bryan, from his looks all the way down is almost the same formula used all those years ago that brought us entertaining television. The problem is, who knows how they will play this out this time. Meaning they can either do this very well and meticulously, or completely goof it up and blunder. Thats to say that they are even headed in the direction of a Vince/Bryan feud over his spot atop,representing WWE. It does seem thats the direction they are indeed headed though. Personally I hope it works because it would be somewhat nostalgic almost as if Im reliving scenes from the Austin/McMahon era. But even more than that it has potential to be entertaining as Bryan is either on top with the title or chasing the title and McMahon is nipping at his heels trying to pull him down. As far as sustainging this until Wrestlemania? I actually hope that if they do go a McMahon vs Bryan route that it takes place before Mania as I would rather see Bryan in a more meaningful match at Mania. Not to say a McMahon Bryan match wouldnt be meaningful but come on it is Mania. On top of a good story I wanna see an opponent he can blow the roof off with and Vince aint the one

 

[Skyeborne]

I do not think WWE will have Randy Orton cash in at SummerSlam it is way to obvious for them to do. We have already seen WWE going against doing what is predictable with Orton winning the MitB when everyone was so sure Daniel Bryan would be the one to win it. I think a majority of people think Orton will cash in and WWE will try to do a swerve of some kind to take away being predictable.

What I now think will happen is Cena retains to give Cena a lot of heat in order to feed into Vince not liking Cena since he isn't even liked when he wins. I don't think it will be a clean victory I think you will see Vince be the one to screw Bryan over himself. Either through the way Batista screwed Triple H by pulling the rope on DB preventing him from getting a rope break when he is in the STF, or a Montreal-esque screw job and as soon as Cena gets the STF on Vince will call for the bell and say DB lost.

The second scenario, although reused, would further all the feuds and storylines they have going between the three of them as well as furthering the Triple H and Vince story because Triple H won't be happy to hear his father in law interfered in a match.

 

[Kodo Sawaki]

Vince did a good job yesterday on bringing heat on him and adding more spotlight on Bryan. Hope we will see more of that in upcoming weeks. Dont think it will be "Austin vs Vince 2" but thinking Vince will be pulling some strings backstage like he did in previous weeks which could result on Vince vs HHH and perhaps adding Bryan and somebody else in that. Dont think we could see Bryan vs Vince match or something like that but we could see some interaction like last night which would result in furthering that or some other feud...