Ex-Degenerate
Occasional Pre-Show
I thought Brodus Clay was suppose to "debut" last night on Raw? They have been doing promos the last few weeks, then the keep delaying his return.
Did i miss something?
Did i miss something?
Brodus Clay - Why Hasn't He Debuted?
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VencomHardcore
Pre-Show Stalwart
That doesn't make sense for him not to be over before a debut. I can name at least 15 wrestlers that debut and weren't over at all. Carlito being one of them after many vignettes.
His delay could mean that they are waiting for a better opportunity to give him a push. And if you count dark matches as a test ground then shaemus wouldn't have made it to television. I saw him at least 3 times before he went on tv and the crowd was dead.
His delay could mean that they are waiting for a better opportunity to give him a push. And if you count dark matches as a test ground then shaemus wouldn't have made it to television. I saw him at least 3 times before he went on tv and the crowd was dead.
Brodeus has no talent and really no charisma whatsoever!! He is just another fat guy who growls and says the same thing other 100,000 wrestlers have said before making their debut!! I see nothing in Mr Clay i honeslty forgot he was making his debut and im sure im not the only one who did
VinnieSunshine
The lord of darkness
I hope they debut him soon. If pushed right he could be Big Show for a new generation of fans. He has the size and the look, they just need to push him not so much as a monster...but as a powerhouse. He needs mic work too.
I wish we could see a new powerhouse team in the form of Brodus and Husky Harris, kinda like back in the day with The Natural Disasters Earthquake and Typhoon.
I wish we could see a new powerhouse team in the form of Brodus and Husky Harris, kinda like back in the day with The Natural Disasters Earthquake and Typhoon.
Klown_Karnage
Slapstick Heavyweight Champion
Call me cynical if you like, but I don't think that the WWE even intends to debut Brodus Clay. It's my belief that they thought of doing so back when they put together the promo videos, but changed their mind after...perhaps he didn't get enough reaction in response to them. It's my opinion that the WWE has decided to continue delaying the debut before ceasing to mention it altogether and just not mentioning it again. It wouldn't be the first time they halted a story simply by not speaking of it again.
I do like the thought of Brodus debuting, but I don't see any (for lack of a better term) it-factor when it comes to him. He seems a powerful, large, and solid wrestler, but that's about it. Besides, what with as many stories as the WWE already has going, I don't think they've got T.V. time enough to give Clay anything to do right now. He'll have to either wait for his shot or content himself with the idea that he's not going to get one.
I do like the thought of Brodus debuting, but I don't see any (for lack of a better term) it-factor when it comes to him. He seems a powerful, large, and solid wrestler, but that's about it. Besides, what with as many stories as the WWE already has going, I don't think they've got T.V. time enough to give Clay anything to do right now. He'll have to either wait for his shot or content himself with the idea that he's not going to get one.
Here's my prediction: This could happen next week, the week after, or we could be waiting several weeks longer. But Brodus Clay will eventually debut, and it won't be during a match that he is booked in. There will likely be a match involving two people who seldom or never appear on the two major shows (i.e. Trent Barreta vs. Curt Hawkins). They will compete for perhaps a minute, if that. Then Brodus' music will hit, he will rush the ring, and destroy both of them. At this point, he will be sick of all the delays, so he will just take the initiative to make an impact on his own. Doing so might make him a face (since he is defying the will of John Laurinaitis), or it might now. But he is the first legitimately huge competitor to show up on WWE television in some time, so it wouldn't surprise me if this is the technique they use to get him over.
They're waiting for another "That's gotta be... That's gotta be... That's gotta be KANE! That's gotta be KANE!!!" moment. You know? Where the debut is teased for countless weeks on end, talked and hyped up, and then when he finally debuts in some kind of surprising fashion some moron on the mic can say something completely obvious and try and make it sound awesome.
That's what I think. Well not really, but even so I'm sure they're just waiting for the right time and then everything about his debut except for perhaps him, will suck.
That's what I think. Well not really, but even so I'm sure they're just waiting for the right time and then everything about his debut except for perhaps him, will suck.
tomthebodz
Pre-Show Stalwart
I personally think it's to build the hype over him, by putting his debut back build up the anticipation. WWe have to be careful if this is their motive, otherwise people will get fed up and not give a shit when he does eventually debut.
I like this - "he's getting no reaction" yet we are discussing him right now. I personally could care less if he debuts. Rey Mysterio years back was hyped but he brought excitement same as when Chris Jericho's debut was previously hyped. I honestly had forgot this guy was supposed to debut.
dynamitedux
Dark Match Jobber
I like this. Do you even understand what you just typed? Discussing when he'll debut doesn't mean he'll get a reaction from the live crowd.
And when you say you could care less, does that mean you actually care about his debut, or were you meant to say that you couldn't care less?
I'm sorry youre not comprehending this? We are diacussing him, this discussion here alone just like the buildup WWE has been pushing towards his debut helps build some curiosity. No the crowd isn't going to cheer or boo because unless they follow NXT or his brief involvement with ADR they won't know him. Curiosity is all it is, us discussing it here adds to that curiosity thus building it.
dynamitedux
Dark Match Jobber
You're right, I'm not comprehending what you're saying.
This is how I'm reading your words: He's getting a reaction, seeing as people are discussing him. But he won't get a reaction when he debuts. But despite the fact that noone will cheer or boo him, he'll still get a reaction.
The topic was started out of curiosity of when he will debut, more buzz is being generated. That gets us discussing, that gets us wondering. That reaction IS curiosity, the promos for his debut builds curiosity and anticipation. Just as someone pointed out with Carlito, most WWE fans had no idea who he was when his debut was emphasized, it was just curiosity and anticipation. Same can be said about Tazz and Rey Mysterio to a degree - especially if you didn't follow ECW and WCW, it was curiosity and anticipation for many.
TopOfTheTron
Small Red Words Under My Username
I was wondering the same thing. I could have sworn that he was supposed to debut on the 21st but I guess not. Still, When he does finally show up, I'm going to be pretty excited about it. The dude is a great wrestler
AND he looks like Jesse Neal ate Big Daddy V.
What more could you want in a wrestler?
AND he looks like Jesse Neal ate Big Daddy V.
What more could you want in a wrestler?
Uhhh... you're whole basis for this statement is flawed, though. Kane's debut wasn't teased for "countless weeks on end." Between July 1997 and October 1997, Paul Bearer did speak about Kane, but that's all he did: speak about him. More and more of the story between Undertaker & Kane was laid down, to build a sense of anticipation & suspense in the crowd. Paul Bearer constantly said "Your brother Kane is coming!!" but he never gave any dates or said next week or anything. 3 months of built suspense is what lead to Bad Blood and Vince McMahon's announcing of Kane's arrival definitely wasn't "some moron saying something completely obvious." It's a pretty solid memory most wrestling fans from that era won't forget.
Brodus isn't being built up in nearly in the same way at all. He's being forgotten, sideswept, week after week. You can't really draw any comparison here, even if he shows up as a monster.
arcticfox04
Dark Match Winner
Brodus Clay should be the Muscle for Johny Ace. Have CM Punk go after Johny Ace and finally take that punch on him and Have Clay just blind side him. Instant heat and he can be a body guard to the boss like the Big Boss Man was to VKM in the attitude era.
The Third Man
Mysterious Avenger
I agree with the people suggesting he be Laurinitis' enforcer. He could be the guy receiving the texts, or be sent on behalf of the guy receiving the texts to help JL 'clean house'. Miz will likely be allied with JL when he starts his feud with Punk, Clay could be the monster brought in to make sure Miz gets the upper hand.
The first time he was meant to debut was three weeks ago in the UK. I was there and I was PISSED!!!!
Personally, I like the look of the guy. You build him right and he just has a look which makes me believe in him as a monster.
My main concern is the possibility that he has tested positive and failed the WWE welness policy. It is surely a lot easier to keep things quiet if you haven't even had your debut yet.
The only reason I say this is because I can;t think of any situation where they have promised a particluar debut date, only to let it fade away into the background.
Personally, I would put him with Husky Harris - Great looking tag team, great chance to develop there skills when half the audience goes to grab a beer.
Personally, I like the look of the guy. You build him right and he just has a look which makes me believe in him as a monster.
My main concern is the possibility that he has tested positive and failed the WWE welness policy. It is surely a lot easier to keep things quiet if you haven't even had your debut yet.
The only reason I say this is because I can;t think of any situation where they have promised a particluar debut date, only to let it fade away into the background.
Personally, I would put him with Husky Harris - Great looking tag team, great chance to develop there skills when half the audience goes to grab a beer.
I noticed that as well. Perhaps they realized he sucks and decided to cancel it. That's dumb on their parts though. If you advertise a wrestler's appearance than you are deceiving your audience if he is not going to be there when the event actually takes place. It's not like there were people who bought tickets to Raw JUST to see Brodus, but what if there was? Those fans would be furious. I dislike Brodus and did not want to see him return anyhow, but WWE promoted his appearance and because of that he SHOULD have been there. Nothing has happened to cancel his debut/return from what I have heard, so WWE are probably just procrastinating on it. Maybe it will lead into something more interesting when he does show up.
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