Breaking Undertaker's Streak: Clean or Dirty?

[TheOrtonRevolution]

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I could see arguments from both sides on how he should lose at Wrestlemania.

Clean: Undertaker is one of the biggest stars in WWE history and probably the most respected on the current roster of both Smackdown and Raw. To have him lose to someone through some messed up way is like a big middle finger to him, so I would be in favor of having him lose the old-fashioned way.

Dirty: This would be a great way to draw some major heat to whoever his opponent is. He would forever etch his name in history and it would be a great way for either turning someone heel or putting over a mid-card heel.

So, I want to know: Clean or Dirty?

 

[Jsaturn14]

I think the only possible way to end the streak (if it ever does end) is by somebody cheating to win. Not just for the reasons you pointed out, which were all true and great reasons for it to be done in a dirty way, but because at this point Taker is so damn unbeatable at Mania that the only legit way for him to beat him is a dirty way. If HBK, HHH, A hot, hot, Randy Orton, A Kane who really was a monster, Edge, and (back in the day) Diesel couldn't beat him in any way, how is it going to look real that some up and comer beats him clean. Nope, only way for it to look real and legit is dirty.

 

[Slyfox696]

IF the streak is going to be broken, it would be simply foolish for the Undertaker to lose in any way other than a clean and fair manner. And it doesn't have to be an "up-and-comer", it can be an established superstar who will be around for years and years to come.

The Undertaker's streak is probably the greatest thing going in the WWE, and if he's going to lose it, then it needs to be so someone else can get a major rub out of it. Cheating to win does not get someone a rub. It may get them some heat, but it won't be "putting them over".

If the streak is broken, it has to be broken cleanly.

 

[Fire Marshall Bill]

IF the streak is going to be broken, it would be simply foolish for the Undertaker to lose in any way other than a clean and fair manner. And it doesn't have to be an "up-and-comer", it can be an established superstar who will be around for years and years to come.

The Undertaker's streak is probably the greatest thing going in the WWE, and if he's going to lose it, then it needs to be so someone else can get a major rub out of it. Cheating to win does not get someone a rub. It may get them some heat, but it won't be "putting them over".

If the streak is broken, it has to be broken cleanly.

100% agree. And I'd even go as far to say that it should probably be broken by a face, if it is ever broken I mean. I would think if someone breaks the streak, that would also be the end of Undertaker's career. He's done everything there is to do really except lose at Wrestlemania. Do you think they'd want him to go out on his first loss at Wrestlemania to someone who would in kayfabe basically say "you suck now get out of my WWE ring?" No. I think they'd rather have it be some kind of respectful handshake goodbye, sort of like when Undertaker came out during Shawn Michaels retirement speech. They didn't shake hands, but a kayfabe tip of the hat from Undertaker is essentially the same thing.

That's also the reason I don't think it will be broken anyways. They had the perfect chance with Shawn Michaels and they didn't take it. Unless Undertaker hangs around till next year, it's too late for someone like Cena or Orton to start a feud.

 

[Cats Pajamas]

With the super high turnover rate in the WWE and after watching them already sink a lot of effort into giving guys monster pushes only to have their careers go nowhere, I'd elect not to end the streak at all. It's way too big of a legacy to risk tainting it now on anything other than the sure thing future of wrestling. Giving a Mania victory over the Undertaker to ANY wrestler (besides Funaki) would be incredibly short sighted as well as an insult to Taker. I don't think Vince would ever approve of something like that *cough* Montreal screw job *cough cough*

 

[aman7525]

i would do it like this.

Randy Orton or edge(face currently) goes a whole year without a title he starts to slowly go back to his heel ways.

meanwhile undertaker becomes champion

orton/edge loses the rumble(last one eliminated)

he also loses at the elimination chamber

then

by wrestlemania orton/edge is full on crazy back to being his crazy self

(undertaker would need to face someone who is going to push him to the limit)

during the takers match we cut back to the locker room and see whoever won mitb laid out unconcscience

after taker wins the match we hear ortons/edge music he has the briefcase and he beats an already tired and hurt taker for the title.

this way the undertaker wins his scheduled match, but orton can claim that he broke the undertakers streak. orton/edge would be hated and the undertaker would be (somewhat) protected form looking weak. whenever someone talks about the streak they could say that taker never lost a match that he was scheduled for, but they could also say orton/edge broke the streak

 

[Dwayne_Jason]

I honestly think it must be broken by a face and it must be broken in a cleanest finish possible. Undertaker, despite the general population's belief, is a tough bastard. After this Wrestlemania he can come in and leave till the next Road to Wrestlemania and try for 20-0. And honestly, I think the man to do it face/heel is one guy: John Cena. Imagine that for a second. Cena is hogan right now, no question about it. He's beaten all of the guys on Taker's list as well, so they can be pretty much even. If taker must lose to anyone it has to be a face Cena. And if they really wanna make kids cry here's what they do:

Cena, having every single of his move countered and Taker kicking out of all his finishers goes heel by having a dirty win. Sorta like what Austin did to Rock back in the day. THAT. is legendary.

 

[Boondocks]

IF the streak is going to be broken, it would be simply foolish for the Undertaker to lose in any way other than a clean and fair manner. And it doesn't have to be an "up-and-comer", it can be an established superstar who will be around for years and years to come.

The Undertaker's streak is probably the greatest thing going in the WWE, and if he's going to lose it, then it needs to be so someone else can get a major rub out of it. Cheating to win does not get someone a rub. It may get them some heat, but it won't be "putting them over".

If the streak is broken, it has to be broken cleanly.

True Story. Look at this from Undertakers boots. If you lost by means of cheating to break the biggest streak of ANY career, wouldn't you want to, 1) Come back to avenge the loss, and 2) bash the company that ruined something so great like that? Undertaker holds what is bigger than any title ever will be. If somebody does defeat him, it should be completely clean. That is the only way to send 'Taker of peacefully, and truly build a superstar off of the success of it.

 

[UnBEARaBULLfan]

I could see a heel Undertaker loosing to super Cena at Wrestlemainia in a burued alive match to end the undertakers streak and career,this way he looses to a face but at the same time it wouldn't be shocking to see Cena use some sort of illeagal weapon to put the Undertaker down for the count.

 

[MaverickAZ]

I kinda always pictured, ( in my own corny way), them introducing his "son" of sorts, and kinda carrying on the character in some way after he retires. They introduced his "brother" in Kane, and even he isn't likely to last fulltime much longer, especially with his sudden interest as a political/business voice on news shows ( i think)

Have some NXT guy, or Florida wrestling guy that most resembles 'Taker, and have him be the guy that ends the streak in 2012.

Would pretty much instantly give the wrestler/performer credibility, but I won't disagree that its probably way cheesy )))))))

 

[UnBEARaBULLfan]

Undertaker has to loose in a buried alive match(if he looses) so he wont come back, they could also have the wrestler that beats him get pulled into the groung with the Undertaker after he's buried, then the next time you see said wrestler(not for at least a month) he has taken on the Undertakers character or something similar to his character to keep his gimick alive.

 

[Attitude]

It has to be clean. Look people are already going to be mad when the streak is broken. It will be worse if it's broken dirty or cheating. It needs to be clean. And as already previously mentioned it can be against an Up and Comer or an already established WWE Star.

I would prefer an up and comer to defeat him cleanly however. As I think Taker has already mentioned he wants to give the victory to someone who needs and to help them get over(this was a few years ago when face guys like Randy Orton and Batista). This is like the possibly the best way to have someone get over and be looked at as a legitimate main eventer. This would be great for a younger star on the rise looking to solidfy their main event status.

Anyway that's how I feel. Cleanly is the best way.

 

[Dzone]

IF the Streak ever does end, whether it's clean or dirty it will result in a mammoth push for who ever is vs Undertaker. IF the Streak ever does end the company would have to put total faith on who ever it is and can't let niggles like say if the guy was prone to injuries it rules him out because this would be the greatest possible push in the current climate.

But those are HUGE IFs McMahon cannot possibly put total faith onto one guy that he doesn't know what destiny brings; is he going to be out injured for 2 years etc.


Streak won't end.

 

[#SAWFT]

Clean is the only way forward, with a respected man... Legend like The Undertaker. Put someone over as face, and it will make him an instant icon. Maybe John Morrison.

 

[theums]

Snuka put Taker over cleanly and passed the torch of "phenom"...why should Taker be any different. It's instant cred...and should be used to elevate someone to the next level...I used to think they were going to have DiBiase break the streak considering the family history...but there's only one man who the phenom title could really describe and it's a bit of a stretch...a man who reminds me alot of snuka himself...a heel kofi kingston.

We got a bit of a taste for what this could be like during the orton feud...have him start complaining about not getting the respect he deserves...needing to make a statement etc...viciously attack the undertaker...yelling how he's going to make everyone take him seriously...pixellate the blood out or use the old X they used to use back in the day...have it look like every other taker match except for one thing...have kofi counter the tombstone into some vicious kick and cover Taker cleanly for the three count. Anyone that's old enough to remember Hogan/Warrior knows how shocked everyone was when Warrior kicked out of the legdrop of doom...I think you'd get the same effect.

While that is what SHOULD happen...they'll probably waste it on Sheamus or the next Batista clone...

 

[Vampiro]

I'm gonna' have to say, i'd want the streak to be ended clean... But i'd also want the superstar who does it to get a massive boost from it, I would say maybe Wade Barret or Sheamus to end the streak... Only because they are the two youngset heels in the WWE today and they are the ones in my opinion who would gain something.... a massive career from ending the streak.

 

[The 1-2-3 Killam]

If he loses dirty it doesn't really accomplish much besides massive heat that will eventually die down. If a guy, even a huge heel, can cleanly defeat the Undertaker, not only will that add huge amounts of heat, but it will boost their credibility through the roof. The WWE would have to be ready for him to receive that boost though, and not let the guy sit around for months.

 

[H33LTurn]

Heres how I see it, if they're going to make him lose the streak clean then they need to find someone credible and worthy of that honor. Think about the last three names that have been proposed to face Taker at Mania by the fans and WWE: Sheamus, Brock Lesnar, and Wade Barrett. Honestly I dont think Sheamus and Wade Barrett hold a candle to the Undertaker even right now at the height of both of their pushes. Brock Lesnar is convincingly strong enough to beat Taker, hes done it multiple times before, but think about it, does he really deserve it? And those three guys are the only three in WWE who actually have a chance to face Taker at Mania. I excluded John Cena because WWE doesnt look like its planning to have to major faces go against eachother right now and Triple H because I heard that Taker isnt too fond of the idea of losing the streak to him.

That being said, the only credible way Undertaker could lose at Mania is in a dirty way. If he indeed does face Barrett then at one point or another Corre would have to interfere. Sheamus would probably use a weapon and I have no idea what Lesnar would do, although now we know there no chance of him facing Taker at Mania thanks to a recent interview. Honestly I do feel bad for the WWE writers, I really dont see what theyre going to do with him this year. Hopefully the rumors of Booker T and Kevin Nash returning will allow some form of idea to come to pass. Personally, I think Taker should retire with the streak in tact. Its been his thing for years and as a loyal employee to the WWE he should be allowed the honor of being undefeated at Mania. In a couple of years, belive it or not, I have reason to belive that the fans wont care for Taker anymore. I'm talking about when he retires and gets inducted into the HOF. I feel the whole deadman gimmick will be concidered overrated by the new era of fans. If theres one thing that those fans would respect, however, is Taker's undefeated streak. I think its the propper way for him to go out and to preserve his legacy for future generations of fans.

 

[Charismatic Enigma]

There is no point in ending the streak. First of all you can't trust that anyone is going to have the kind of supreme loyalty/longevity to the company to deserve such a nod (see: Brock Lesnar) and anyone established enough to trust with that honor likely doesn't need the rub anyway (you really think Cena needs help getting over?).

Every legend has their "thing" that one intangible that sets them apart from everyone, whether it's the "longest reigning IC champ" or "the first Olympic gold medalist" or "the world's strongest man" they may be gimmicks but they are also what makes that individual unique. In the case of the Undertaker while he has no shortage of memorable matches, title wins, nicknames, etc. the one thing that really defines him is the Mania streak. When you say 18-0 wrestling fans will know who you're talking about instantly. 18-0 in what? You don't even have to say Wrestlemania, the phrase is synonymous with Taker. I vote he bangs out a throw away match this year with Barrett (gives him some cred, keeps the streak up) and finishes his Mania streak 20-0 in a HUGE match against Cena, build it to the moon for like 6 months. Don't let them have any physical interaction, all verbal, all mindgames, give the tiniest tease at the Rumble, and then give the fans a Mania classic to end one of the greatest careers of all time.

It doesn't matter whether it's clean or dirty there is simply no real upside to having the streak end.

 

[The 1-2-3 Killam]

Undertaker has to loose in a buried alive match(if he looses) so he wont come back, they could also have the wrestler that beats him get pulled into the groung with the Undertaker after he's buried, then the next time you see said wrestler(not for at least a month) he has taken on the Undertakers character or something similar to his character to keep his gimick alive.

Not the worst idea ever, actually. I kind of like it... I can imagine a Wade Barrett face character, playing the Deadman. BUT, in response to your first statement, the Undertaker has come back from being buried alive plenty of times. In fact, he's going to do it again really soon... I still have no clue why they're able to pull that match off on a PG product...

 

[chuckhardslab]

wel i always i thota good way to do it would be to hve the mitb winner cash in on taker at mania the same night i mean does tht count as a lost or not? like hve taker vs cena its nearing the end both stars are already worn out and bam perosn comes down makes it a triple threat hits taker out of the ring even and jst pins cena amking it look lke taker never got pinned at mania, jst an idea and it would work cuz im sure the midcarder(since thts the only pple in the mitb) would get heat for interfering on the matcha nd making taker lose plus he takes home the championship.......thoughts?

 

[I Suck Ass]

Personally, I think it would have to be clean. Why have this massive streak, only to end it with a dirty and cheap victory? It would ruin some 20 years of work that has been put into the streak. If the streak ever will end, it will have to be clean. That would instantly put whoever beats him over in a second.

 

[OlderFan]

The "son" idea is actually not bad at all, especially if UT didn't find out until after the match was over that he had lost to his own son. I have to admit I'd like to see "the streak" stay intact.

 

[owen8472]

there bringing in nash to retire undertaker sorry guys its true!! thats the only reason he is here for get the rumble or elimanation chamber nash is the only guy to take takers streak

 

[Big Smack]

The streak is definitely the most "over" part of the WWE, but even 1 loss on a controversy wouldn't hurt the Undertaker. Controversy creates cash, I believe I heard Bischoff say. I think Wade Barrett is the one to end the streak. I'm an old school fan from the 80's w Mid South, World Class, WWF, NWA and so I like the fact UT is undefeated from back then. Give the Corre the rub and esp Barrett, as he should be the next big thing down the road. 20-0 the Undertaker takes w him even after he's retired. 19-1, he will always leave 1 loss to someone who the WWE can use to market for years.