Bray Wyatt my opinion

[Gavschenko]

Is it just me or ever since that feud wyatt had with cena he has become boring. Before i was always excited to see him come out and though he was brilliant on the mic. After that horrible feud with cena ive lost interest and i remember when he was feuding with jericho he was talking and fans were chanting boring so maybe its not just me. Anyway ive two questions to ask:

1 What do you think of wyatt do you still like him or is he boring?
2 With rumour of him fighting taker at mania is this a match you want to see and if not why?

 

[BillAlfonsos_Whistle]

1. I think he is the most talented CHARACTER in the WWE right now. His persona is believable and his in-ring mechanics (while sometimes shaky) match it.

2. Absolutely. This is the right time to have that match. If Taker wants to keep going give him the big win in a really epic promo war ending with a so-so match which is all he is capable of anymore. If he wants to get retired allow Bray to do it to get the massive rub.

 

[Navi]

When the Wyatt's debuted I thought to myself they were terrific, and a great faction to match up against the Shield. Even though they were both heel factions, they did have a couple of matches and both factions really brought it.

After the Shield broke up, the Wyatt's continued, and I began to notice a few things that bothered me. First of all for all his brilliance on the mic, Bray Wyatt's in ring skills didn't match up to his teammate Luke Harper's. Harper was to me easily the best of the group when it came to looking like a lunatic and getting the job done in the ring. Rowan was sort of forgettable, but he has grown on me since the break of the Wyatt's.

While they had hits and misses and Bray was always the centrepiece of the whole group, they never really seemed to get anywhere. The feuds with Bryan, Cena and then Jericho all carried the same theme. They were either out to save their souls, recruit them, or bring them over to the dark side. Take your pick. Then they disappeared off TV.

When Wyatt came back I thought they would repackage him a bit, but no he's the same old Bray Wyatt. Giving outstanding promo's but not really delivering anything else. To me he is a one trick pony, and that trick wore out it's welcome a long time ago.

They now have him feuding with Ambrose who was white hot. He's not as hot as he was. Wyatt has dragged him down somewhat. Yes they both are good on the mic, Ambrose is great in the ring, buy again Wyatt is to me lackluster. I have no idea what they'll do with him next after this feud is over, and hopefully that's soon, but if Ambrose can't get him over, I don't know who can. God knows it's not for want of trying.

I don't see Taker coming back to wrestle at Mania, and I see no reason for him to wrestle Wyatt. The streak was broken last year, and I don't want to see him start a new one, losing every year. If they have to bring back Taker to get Wyatt some heat, then all his promo's have been for naught.

 

[Radical]

1. What do you think of Wyatt do you still like him or is he boring?

Still like him but 2015 will be a very important year for him to really redeem himself.

His feud and subsequent loss to Cena really, REALLY hurt him. His "win" against Cena in the cage was about as lame a win as you could think of and then he would later just straight up lose to Cena in the final match of the feud. How could he look strong or intimidating after that? If they wanted to TRY and redeem him they could have had him come out and destroy some top faces and have a few matches where he just dominated but they never really did that. He would later be the very unfortunate victim of a Cena fluff-up after he lost so bad to Lesnar. Sorry to say but Wyatt was in the WRONG place at the WRONG time.

His feud now with Dean Ambrose has been okay. It is necessary because the title scene in WWE right now is pretty full so they need Wyatt and Ambrose to pretty much be doing other things for a while until they can focus on titles again. And both guys are kinda 'crazy' and 'creepy' so I think it's made for a good feud.

The question will be how will Wyatt be used up to WrestleMania? Which leads me to the second question ...

2. With rumor of him fighting taker at mania is this a match you want to see and if not why?

Yes. I would like to see this match. Obviously, only if Taker feels he is healthy enough. Wyatt is a good worker, despite what people might say. He has a good move-set that MAKES SENSE. No, he can't do a dropkick or a suicide dive like Luke Harper. But he SHOULDN'T even if he could because it would look silly based on the character he has. It's okay for Harper because he plays more of a 'I don't know what I'm doing crazy guy' where Wyatt is more of a 'cold and calculating and creepy' character who should not take risks like suicide dives and awkward dropkicks.

Anyway, getting back to the Taker vs Wyatt match, I think it would be good. I think they would build it as Taker wants redemption, he wants to show that he can still be 'the man' at WrestleMania and Wyatt will be saying how he wants to 'save' Taker by being the one who officially ends him.

Now that I think of it, I am a little worried about that match because of who should win it? Wyatt should win it because he would benefit most from the win but it would basically be Taker's retirement match and going out on a win would be nice for Taker and then whoever beats Brock at WrestleMania will be the ONLY person who can say "I beat the one behind the one in 21 and 1." otherwise they would have to say "I beat ONE of the one's behind the two in 21 and 2." Just doesn't have the same ring to it and if Wyatt loses to Taker I think it will almost kill Wyatt's credibility as much as I know losing to Taker at WM is kind of an honor it would hurt Wyatt because he hasn't got a REAL BIG PPV win yet.

Personally, I'd rather see Sting vs Undertaker at WrestleMania. That would be perfect because Taker could win and it would be okay for both guys. Unfortunately I think Triple H vs Sting is pretty much booked. I don't mind that idea only if Taker is not wrestling anymore.

If Wyatt vs Taker can't go at WM then I'm not sure what would be good. Maybe Wyatt vs Big E of "New Day" would make sense but would need a LOT of work to build up to something truly interesting but the groundwork is there with the idea of Wyatt trying to turn Big E of the New Day into the dark side!


So to sum up quickly: Yes I'm still interested in Bray Wyatt but Wyatt's match outcome at WM will be very important to determine his credibility in 2015. I'd like to see Wyatt as a title holder in 2015 but it's a pretty big log jam at the top (which is good, in principle) but even if he started at US or IC Champ I think he could make it work with the right attitude.

 

[kadroan]

Is it just me or ever since that feud wyatt had with cena he has become boring. Before i was always excited to see him come out and though he was brilliant on the mic. After that horrible feud with cena ive lost interest and i remember when he was feuding with jericho he was talking and fans were chanting boring so maybe its not just me. Anyway ive two questions to ask:

1 What do you think of wyatt do you still like him or is he boring?
2 With rumour of him fighting taker at mania is this a match you want to see and if not why?

I like Bray. He's one of the most unique characters in the company. I just think he's no longer a special attraction like he was in late 2013-early 2014. When Bray first debuted, he barely wrestled and he had Rowan and Harper to do the dirty work. Meanwhile, now, we just have Bray, who wrestles more than ever, cut promos. Him facing Ambrose is awkward, they can't seem to explain why they're feuding. Him and Rowan/Harper seem to act like all three wasn't a group, but Rowan and Harper act like there was something bad that caused them to split.

I don't want to see it. Bray would lose that match. He needs to be in a position where he can look good. He needs to be feuding with somebody like Dolph Ziggler or even Big E of the New Day, bring a dark element to their happiness angle.

 

[MERPER]

His promos are boring. He rambles on and on and on and I lose interest quickly.

The uniqueness lost itself after Cena when his mind games and brainwashing stopped really having any kind of impact. When they turned Daniel Bryan and he joined the group for a minute, that was cool, but then it all vanished.

His in ring work is nothing special, I suspect that's why they keep hiding it by letting him and Ambrose go at it with all kinds of objects. Can't connect on moves, oh well, everyone likes tables and chairs.

Meanwhile, he has successfully cooled off all momentum Ambrose had going.

 

[ner0]

His feud with Ambrose is okay. Considering they're 2/3 my favorites on the main roster I thought I'd be liking it more. The fact every single match is a gimmick match makes me feel like they're trying to mask or compensate for something. Bray vs Taker would have a phenomenal/epic build up but that match in ring would turn out to be VERY limited. These admissions are coming from a fan of Wyatt. I was bummed when they split up the family.

The Cena feud hurt him more than anything by far. I don't think it can be disputed he was made to look anything other than super weak on that one and I don't know why they even bothered to do it

 

[OYDK]

It doesn't matter what the people on this site think about him really. Bray Wyatt is one of those guys who is indispensable to WWE, simply because of how strong his character is and how strong the casuals react to him every night. Everybody has an opinion and of course it's their right to have it, but for the ones that truly can't stand Bray, they will be dealing with him for a LONG time to come. I really don't see him fading into obscurity anytime soon; based on the praise that he receives from the Legends and the higher ups, I think Bray is one of those long-term guys and will be relevant as long as he can keep wrestling. Think Kane, Big Show, Taker etc.

To answer your questions though:

1. If you couldn't tell from my opening, I'm a Bray Wyatt fan. I don't think he's boring but he has his moments where he rambles on about complete nonsense. Thankfully, that happens very rarely and I think for the most part, everything he says is gold. If you have somebody who can deliver an A+ promo on the mic every night, you can't let that guy go. To me, Wyatt is probably the most interesting character on the roster.

2. Hell yes I want to see this match. It would be magic imo. Than again, it could let me down completely. I'm willing to give it a chance though as a feud like this will likely only come around once and it would be a shame to let all that potential go to waste.

 

[The Samoan Heritage]

Bray Wyatt for me was over huge, because it was something that we the fans hadn't seen in a long while, in the time were almost every heel and every face have similar traits to the next, Wyatt stood out. His gimmick was intrigueing, and he played it exceptionally well, but over time fans stopped carring. Wyatt was one of the few people I would stop and listen to when on the mic, but now I gnore him like all the rest. When I hear him I want to listen, but after a minute or 2 its like o.k.......sooooo, what was the point of him coming out again? Then no matter what he says in his promos he never deliver in ring. His feud against Bryan was entertaining because it was fresh, but I can't tell you why they were feuding to begin with. (Didn't pay attention to Wyatt/Cena)His fued with Jericho people say Bray didn't like Jericho pretending to be a hero when he used that "Save Us" gimmick, but that was 6 years and 3 Jericho returns ago, and he/wwe exspected fans to try to figure that out through out all his jabbering.
1. I find Wyatt boring, He's great at cutting promos, but him speaking so cryptic, and his in ring skills really are going to hold him back.
2.No! No!No! No!.......No! Wyatt hasn't done ANYTHING in wwe to say he deserves to face Undertaker, in hopefully his final match(were Taker needs to win). If Wyatt couldn't get over (meaning we wouldn't be having this thread with so much negative reactions) when he feuded with Bryan, Cena, and Jericho there's no way he's going to get over feuding with Taker for 4 or 5 weeks.

 

[Radical]

Bray Wyatt for me was over huge, because it was something that we the fans hadn't seen in a long while, in the time were almost every heel and every face have similar traits to the next, Wyatt stood out. His gimmick was intrigueing, and he played it exceptionally well, but over time fans stopped carring. Wyatt was one of the few people I would stop and listen to when on the mic, but now I gnore him like all the rest. When I hear him I want to listen, but after a minute or 2 its like o.k.......sooooo, what was the point of him coming out again? Then no matter what he says in his promos he never deliver in ring. His feud against Bryan was entertaining because it was fresh, but I can't tell you why they were feuding to begin with. (Didn't pay attention to Wyatt/Cena)His fued with Jericho people say Bray didn't like Jericho pretending to be a hero when he used that "Save Us" gimmick, but that was 6 years and 3 Jericho returns ago, and he/wwe exspected fans to try to figure that out through out all his jabbering.
1. I find Wyatt boring, He's great at cutting promos, but him speaking so cryptic, and his in ring skills really are going to hold him back.
2.No! No!No! No!.......No! Wyatt hasn't done ANYTHING in wwe to say he deserves to face Undertaker, in hopefully his final match(were Taker needs to win). If Wyatt couldn't get over (meaning we wouldn't be having this thread with so much negative reactions) when he feuded with Bryan, Cena, and Jericho there's no way he's going to get over feuding with Taker for 4 or 5 weeks.

I think Wyatt was really badly unprotected since he debuted on the main roster WWE. His character was so unique and eerie and his mic work was so solid that he did have a lot of people interested in him at first ...

But then what happened? His first match against Kane in an Inferno match? Okay, in principle, but how did he win it? It's two goons had to cover the flames so they could go gang up on him so he could win. UTTER garbage for a debut match against an old Kane. That was not a good start.

I can't remember his feuds after that until he took on John Cena. There, again, he was put in a bad spot. A very bad spot. I don't care what anyone says about facing a top guy means you aren't being buried or you are somehow elevated. That might be true for some people who already have built up some credibility. Like if when Dolph Ziggler battled John Cena and lost, that would be okay because Ziggler at least at that point had some years of good, solid work and a few IC titles and a World Title. But Wyatt really needed some big wins and his feud with Cena was bad for him. Really bad. Made him look super weak. That wasn't helped by later on having him look like a complete chump along with his "Family" getting mowed down by Cena after the Lesnar match.

As for Wyatt's ring work. I don't think it's holding him back or will hold him back. He has amazing ring psychology and his move-set is good. When people say his in-ring ability might hold him back I really want to know what they mean by that? What would you like him to do differently? I think he can do anything he needs to that makes sense. He's not Harper who is going to do suicide dives and dropkicks, but that's okay. Did Kane do suicide dives and dropkicks? Did Mick Foley? I don't recall much if any of that. I see Bray Wyatt as a bit of a merge between Mankind, Kane and Undertaker and I think he really just needs a really good run with big wins in 2015 and he'll finally be able to be taken seriously again.

Last thing. You mentioned his long and sometimes boring promos. I totally agree. Biggest problem with feuds he has been in is that it's hard to find the point in his promos. Why is he feuding with someone? That's what we need to know. We can only be entertained by a long winded promo if it has key points we can latch on to.

That's what I want to see from Wyatt in 2015. Bigger wins, looking strong (some big wins and still looking strong in defeats) and 'creepy' or 'cryptic' promos are fine but they have to be more to the point!

 

[The Mattitude Era]

The problem was that the Wyatt/Cena feud was so great (don't know how anyone could say that was a bad feud), and nothing else has come close since then. The Ambrose feud has been pretty good, and we've seen some great matches from it, but it hasn't quite connected like the Cena/Wyatt feud. Cena elevated Bray and made him a big deal. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a delusional Cena-hater.

 

[big ears]

On the ambulance match that is scheduled for this Monday, in my view this really is going far too far. I can only hope that it will all be staged, but the injuries that were suffered by Daniel Bryant, Bad news Barrett etc do serve to indicate the real dangers that are faced by the superstars. I do seriously wonder whether the McMahons have Ambrose in their sights as some sort of 'bohemian grove' type of human sacrifice, or something similar, and I am very worried about him.