Boring Boring Boring

[Papa Pillman]

Sometimes the boring chant gets a bit irritating. At times early in the build of an angle someone needs to be longwinded on the mic to get the story over. In those instances the crowd should probably exercise a little more patience. For example I remember Zeb Colter hearing the chant in one of his early promos. That just illustrates that the crowd is ignorant.

But, ultimately, who gives a fuck? The crowd has a right to be both irritating and ignorant. And they definitely aren't obligated to be "respectful". It's pro wrestling, not golf.

As for chanting it during the Cena promo, I hope it starts a trend. It would be very interesting if instead of the anti-Cena crowd chanting "Cena-Sucks" they instead started chanting "boring" everytime Cena came through the curtain, and through the duration of his segments. I'd be intrigued to see how the company chose to react and what they came up with to try and address that situation. If those people really are attempting to send a message about their dislike for Cena's character and the way he's used, constant chants of "boring" would be far more effective than the "Cena-sucks" ones, which have become a game to Cena.

 

[Mustang Sally]

People chant "Boring" because they don't find it entertaining. When they find something entertaining they won't chant "Boring".

Often, they'll chant "boring" when someone starts the chant and others pick it up. It doesn't have to make sense; in fact, it doesn't necessarily have to do with what's happening in the ring at all...... it has more to do with being seen (or heard) doing whatever everyone else is doing.

In addition to that, many folks in the audience have no interest in two or more performers skillfully working a match; all they have patience for is a few flying spots followed by a quick conclusion to the match. Many aren't really fans of wrestling, yet they're just as capable of initiating a chant of "boring" as anyone else.

And yes, if they really do find the action lacking, they have every right to chant whatever the hell they want. But if they're so bored, hopefully they won't trouble to attend a wrestling show in the future.

Makes sense, no? Why pay good money to attend an event you find so uninteresting?

 

[chris21]

I have to admit despite not being a fan of Cena my heart sank for him abit Monday night. Sure it was a very boring promo and he can be boring but that chant has to hurt? The fans have the right to chant what they want but I didn't like it, didn't feel comfortable with it and as I said I don't even like Cena really.

 

[MrMojoRisin]

The obvious discussion of this thread is the boring chant. I personally think its disrespectful even given the shitty writing. WWE did this to themselves. They created the monster when allowing the SCSA/Lance Storm segment. Do you as fans agree with the boring chant or is it justified given the atrocious writing?

The boring chants been around for as long as I can remember, and it's not something the WWE has ever 'allowed'. It's something they really can't control...

well they can control it. They simply have to stop putting on segments that people consider boring

 

[Kliq69]

its not disrespectful to the company. fuck the company. its disrespectful to the performers to chant boring during a match when the wrestlers in the ring are giving their all to entertain. during an actual boring promo is one thing, but the fans should not chant boring during match.

How often do you think those guys actually give their all? Or even close to it? Half the time, especially during raw/smackdown, the guys are clowning around in the ring. They aren't crisp, they aren't fluid, they need rest holds minutes into matches because they didn't bother to memorize the spots and transitions before the match began so they need input from each other and the ref constantly. If guys didn't phone it in most nights, the times they don't wouldn't stand out so much.

The context and positioning of the card matters so much more than execution when it comes to the boring chants though. Especially this past week with the longer than normal taping. Raw should have kicked off with DB vs Ziggler (and as good as that match was, neither were going 100%) which would have kept the energy up. Then you go with the Cena monologue because it dips the energy while the crowd is still not overly annoyed with the show. Then throw in another match (maybe the santino/henry match) with a face getting the crowd fired up... Ryback is good at that. (like him or not, the fans enjoy chanting with him) The Rock segment kicking off the 10pm hour makes sense, as it's the most important transitional segment on the show (bed time for kiddies), and getting as many people switching from their cbs shows or whatever to Raw to catch the Rock is never a bad thing. The ending of the show was great, whether you liked it or not, boring is not a word you could really use to describe it.

 

[rerun406]

I also hope this boring trend continues .. and in some cases it is absolutely needed.

Booing Cena doesn't accomplish much .. all he does is stops talking, waits out the boos and continues

admittedly I'm not the biggest Cena fan, but when the boring chant struck up, I didn't feel bad for him in the least .. I caught an expression on his face that said "Wow they're really sick of me, I'm used to the Cena Sucks Chant .. but boring is a whole lot worse"

If those people really are attempting to send a message about their dislike for Cena's character and the way he's used, constant chants of "boring" would be far more effective

I'm curious if the trend continues. I noticed a CENA NUF sign right by ringside two weeks ago


Like the "boring" chant during Cena's promo. That was a kayfabe chant. His promo wasn't boring, they just didn't like what he was saying, so they chanted that instead of booing. It's stupid.

are you kidding me? Maybe the fans didn't like what Cena said because it was boring. I put a timer on Cena's promo when he started talking and the boring chant started at the SEVEN minute mark. If you've been talking for that long, about the same crap .. #Redemption, our time is now, yada yada yada .. we heard the same thing last week

 

[DirtyD79]

The fans have every right to chant "boring" when something is boring them. It means the fans are actually thinking about what they're watching instead of clapping like trained seals waiting for a fish. John Cena's promo was boring. It's the same shit he's been saying all month. Even my father who is not even remotely IWC changed the channel right in the middle of it and he actually likes John Cena.

As for the Wade Barrett-Miz match that got the boring chant, I believe Scott Hall said it best to two midcarders in WCW. He said "That was a great match, now watch me do half the work and get twice the pop." The vast majority of fans don't care about crap like workrate or backstage politics, they care about if the wrestlers in the ring are entertaining.

 

[pipebomber]

No it is not disrespectful. You paid your hard earned money to be entertained. it would be different if it was called amateur wrestling but its not. it is PROFESSIONAL wrestling. these guys are suppossed to be the best. I see it being disrespectfull to chant boring at an nxt or small local indy show, but this is WWE, the big leagues. PROFESSIONAL entertainers.

If you get food at a restaurant and its burnt and over cooked, is it disrespectful for you to send it back? no, you demand quality for your money, and the cook failed to deliver on that. If you are bored at a wrestling show, then the people in the ring are failing to do their job of entertaining you. You have every right to demand quality for your money.

Is it rude? Yes. But being a wrestling fan isnt about being sweet and nice, it's about speaking your mind on what entertains you.

 

[dolphinzigglah]

People paid for their ticket, they have a right to express their opinion.

However, when a bunch of people are chanting "you can't wrestle" to Fandango when he's hitting some beautiful leg drops is just disrespectful and doesn't really make sense, as they haven't seen his abilities before (except for Johnny Curtis, which he isn't bad at all). It'd be more appropriate if they chanted "you won't wrestle" or something, lol.

 

[The Butcher]

I'm wildly curious to hear how "you can't wrestle," chants are disrespectful. Please, someone break this down to me.

Because, let me tell you, it isn't disrespectful. It's called participating in the show. Fans are more than entitled to taunt wrestlers they don't like, even the oh-so-fragile Divas. It's no different than chanting "you suck," "you effed up," or (back in the day) "asshole." It's an expression of displeasure with the performer. Of course the wrestler being jeered can wrestle. They're a professional wrestler. But fans aren't worried about details or facts. Not casual fans, anyway. They're caught up in the moment. They just want to have a good time and scream at the guys they don't like and applaud the guys they do like. There's no disrespect there.

Are fans only supposed to cheer and boo? Are they only allowed to chant polite things? Are fans supposed just go along with the script? Give me a break. The fans are one of the last remaining elements in WWE that aren't completely contrived. You buy a ticket, you buy the right to be as outspoken as you want to be. And it isn't a matter of respect or disrespect. If someone didn't respect the wrestlers to a certain degree, they wouldn't be at a damn wrestling show. It's a matter of just letting loose and having fun however the individual who bought the ticket sees fit. Like I said before, if an individual bought their ticket and isn't vulgar, he or she has effectively bought the right to cheer, chant, or scream whatever they want.

 

[dolphinzigglah]

I'm wildly curious to hear how "you can't wrestle," chants are disrespectful. Please, someone break this down to me.

Because, let me tell you, it isn't disrespectful. It's called participating in the show. Fans are more than entitled to taunt wrestlers they don't like, even the oh-so-fragile Divas. It's no different than chanting "you suck," "you effed up," or (back in the day) "asshole." It's an expression of displeasure with the performer. Of course the wrestler being jeered can wrestle. They're a professional wrestler. But fans aren't worried about details or facts. Not casual fans, anyway. They're caught up in the moment. They just want to have a good time and scream at the guys they don't like and applaud the guys they do like. There's no disrespect there.

Are fans only supposed to cheer and boo? Are they only allowed to chant polite things? Are fans supposed just go along with the script? Give me a break. The fans are one of the last remaining elements in WWE that aren't completely contrived. You buy a ticket, you buy the right to be as outspoken as you want to be. And it isn't a matter of respect or disrespect. If someone didn't respect the wrestlers to a certain degree, they wouldn't be at a damn wrestling show. It's a matter of just letting loose and having fun however the individual who bought the ticket sees fit. Like I said before, if an individual bought their ticket and isn't vulgar, he or she has effectively bought the right to cheer, chant, or scream whatever they want.

I understand it might be deserved at times. Also, I get what you mean, the Kurt Angle "you suck" chants were priceless. However, to just go and say "are fans only supposed to cheer and boo?" isn't that what they do? Saying "you suck" is a form of booing, you fucked up, etc. I normally wouldn't care, but he's (Fandango) a new young talent, a guy not normally in the spotlight, etc. Don't know how to say it but it's not helping a guy get over. In a way, it is I guess. The chant doesn't make sense and it's out of place too. It's like telling someone they did a great job when they botch a suplex.

 

[The Butcher]

I understand it might be deserved at times. Also, I get what you mean, the Kurt Angle "you suck" chants were priceless. However, to just go and say "are fans only supposed to cheer and boo?" isn't that what they do? Saying "you suck" is a form of booing, you fucked up, etc. I normally wouldn't care, but he's (Fandango) a new young talent, a guy not normally in the spotlight, etc. Don't know how to say it but it's not helping a guy get over. In a way, it is I guess. The chant doesn't make sense and it's out of place too. It's like telling someone they did a great job when they botch a suplex.

Does it matter if it makes sense or not, though? The wave doesn't make sense either when you really think about it; but get 10,000 people together in a circular room, and see what happens.

My point is that making this into an issue of respectfulness is stupid. Like I said, people who don't respect wrestling and wrestlers on some level don't attend wrestling shows. Fans aren't there to follow the script. If a chant starts and catches on with the whole crowd, so be it. Are we so thin-skinned as a society that a little good-natured jeering is instantly disrespectful? It isn't as if all parties involved aren't in on it. This is a performance designed to get people to react. Many wrestlers have said in shoots that they don't care what fans do as long as they aren't silent.

It isn't Broadway, it isn't opera, it isn't even an elementary school holiday program. It's pro wrestling. Jeez louise, people. Everyone knows it a work, everyone knows the chants, and everyone plays the game. Fandango isn't crying himself to sleep at night, I guaran-damn-tee you that. The respect is shown when you buy the ticket. After that it's all fun and games.

 

[TWJC: The Beginning]

i find nothing wrong with the boring chants because usually what's happening when they chant it is well boring lol. but i don't like it when the chant "you can't wrestle" at fandango. i understand most fans don't know about his work as Johnny Curtis in NXT or FCW but come on. the guy can go in the ring. if they are going to chant "you can't wrestle" it should be at people like brodus clay or ryback. those who actually don't have any mat wrestling skill.

but back to the original topic. usually i dont have a problem with the boring chants. i think its disrespectful during a match. especially in diva's matches. its usually not their fault the matches suck and are so short. im sure alot of the divas are decent wrestlers but are never given opportunities to showcase their talent. but then again the fans paid so they can chant whatever the hell they want.

Dude, the chant to Fandango isn't some personal insult against him as a worker. It's no different than "you suck". It's 2013, not 1998. Everyone, even the kids, know its a work. They play a long. More and more everyday I think the supposed smarks are the dumb ones being tricked into writing essays about their hatred for Cena. It's a business with characters as the product. They say "you can't" wrestle to get under the character's skin. Same thing with (most) of the "boring" chants.

 

[TWJC: The Beginning]

People paid for their ticket, they have a right to express their opinion.

However, when a bunch of people are chanting "you can't wrestle" to Fandango when he's hitting some beautiful leg drops is just disrespectful and doesn't really make sense, as they haven't seen his abilities before (except for Johnny Curtis, which he isn't bad at all). It'd be more appropriate if they chanted "you won't wrestle" or something, lol.

John Cena has legit produced at least a dozen MOTY candidates over the past few years and has a Meltzer 5 star...NOBODY is saying that's disrespectful. As the guy above has explained, it's all a part of the show. It's not disrespectful. It's the modern way of getting under a heels skin.

 

[I Heart Cena]

People will always chant "boring" at anything they find boring in sports or sports entertainment.

Yes, the WWF and Cena fully deserve all the hate they get. Cena is perhaps the worst promo-cutter on the roster. The chants are justified.

I hope this becomes a staple of cena promos. He is mind-numbingly boring, and the fans were letting him know.

 

[enviousdominous]

As much as I respect SCSA, I wanted to rip his fucking throat out for participating in the "boring" segment during Lance's match.

If you have the attention span of a gnat and the aptitude for learning of a John Cena fan, you would probably find Lance Storm boring.

Does the show get boring sometimes? Of course. Here's the problem. While the crowd's effort may be noble in that the writing and performances would have to work harder to entertain us better, we should note that we are a fucking spoiled generation of wrestling fan.


We have to accept that some performers, while having the full faith of the bookers, may never find an aesthetically likable niche with the crowd. Either way, if they perform and play their character to a T, I've technically gotten my money's worth out of them.

I find that the boring chants are more an ass method of screwing with the show and baselessly heckling the performers for personal enjoyment than it is an effort to improve the show. Anybody who would chant "boring" at someone as dedicated as Lance Storm can go suck cat exhaust.


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[Dirk]

I feel for the performers. They can only do so much with the material they are given. Cena is a bit of an exception, because he gets more freedom, but he isn't booking himself. He may have influence, but the angles are creative's. I propose a "fuck off, writers" chant to correct this injustice.

 

[JJohns]

What people are thinking is that "boos", "boring" "Cena sucks" chants are looked at as a BAD thing. They aren't. Wrestlers are getting a reaction. It shows that the wrestlers are engaging the audience. What's worse for wrestlers is when they get no reaction. That's what the office judges things on.

For people saying that we should do a "Fuck off, writers" chant, that won't change anything. TNA went through years of "Fire Russo" chants, and that didn't change a thing, they still had the same nonsensical booking schemes (and in a way, still do).

 

[DatDereWhiteMan]

son looky here. peepel gonna say wat they gonna say. be it boring asshole or what. all we can do is exept dat these peeple have a rite to do such and juss go bout our way.

 

[BaconBits]

i find nothing wrong with the boring chants because usually what's happening when they chant it is well boring lol. but i don't like it when the chant "you can't wrestle" at fandango. i understand most fans don't know about his work as Johnny Curtis in NXT or FCW but come on. the guy can go in the ring. if they are going to chant "you can't wrestle" it should be at people like brodus clay or ryback. those who actually don't have any mat wrestling skill.

Using the term "mat wrestling skill" as it pertains to scripted entertainment is absolutely regoddamndiculous. Jack Thwagger has mat wrestling skill. Brock Lesnar has mat wrestling skill. Shelton Benjamin has mat wrestling skill. Kurt Angle probably has the best mat wrestling skill of them all.

You know why?

They're actual wrestlers.

Sports entertainers like Fandango might be good at sports entertaining, but they'd be in way, way over their heads in actual mat wrestling.

 

[The Eighties]

This chant has started to creep into the John Cena hate as well, although Mustang Sally's theory on that being done on purpose by WWE plants as part of an angle is intriguing.

The WWE has preached freedom of speech for so long that I think they just have to take the good with the bad when it comes to chants. Personally I feel bad for guys having matches when it happens as they are doing their best, but when it happens to segments like the Rosie O'Donell skit and the recent Miz/Y2J/Barrett movie segment then bad scripting deserves it.

 

[#Atti2de]

I don't think it's disrespectful. If something sucks, then voice your opinion. I think that's what makes wrestling so special at times is the fact that we have the power to control what goes on in the ring. The Lance Storm incident was boring because he lacked charisma. I don't know what it is about technical wrestlers but the majority of them lack charisma(with the exception of guys like Jericho or, to a certain extent, Kurt Angle) but that's for another topic.