Bombs Explode At Boston Marathon, Three Dead
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What message is that? We're happy we caught a criminal? No shit, but after the day the BPD had, is partying in the street really the best way to do that?
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Team Finnley Baylor
The message is that Boston ain't no place to fuck with!
I hate rhetoric like this. You think anybody directly effected by this event is out there in the street? The wife of one of the cops that died? One of the people that lost a leg? The child of a dead father?
No, those people's lives have been ruined, and their spirit has been broken. Some college student who kept up with the whole thing via twitter in the safety of their apartment across the river from Watertown can't even imagine the type of horror they have been put through over this past week.
I'm not sure I understand what you're getting at here.
Calling this guy a criminal is a disservice. He's a terrorist, plain and simple.
We celebrate at a perceives victory. We danced in the street after we won WW2, but we didn't forget the millions of lives that were lost or effected.
You might call it rhetoric, but is apart of what makes us American. We celebrate life today. We celebrate our way of life, we celebrate the law enforcement that busted ass, we celebrate people pinching exposed arteries with their fingers to keep people alive.
We will mourn and support the victims in the coming months and years. We can't change what happened, but it won't beat us down.
We celebrate at a perceives victory. We danced in the street after we won WW2, but we didn't forget the millions of lives that were lost or effected.
You might call it rhetoric, but is apart of what makes us American. We celebrate life today. We celebrate our way of life, we celebrate the law enforcement that busted ass, we celebrate people pinching exposed arteries with their fingers to keep people alive.
We will mourn and support the victims in the coming months and years. We can't change what happened, but it won't beat us down.
Amazing.
I'm glad the guy was captured before nightfall. The people of Boston can sleep securely tonight and start making the steps they need to to get back to their normal lives. That's all that really matters to me right now.
Fair enough.
Did you really just compare a war that lasted six years and took over 400,000 lives to a 5 day period where less than a dozen people died?
Everyone had to make sacrifices for World War II, and almost everyone was effected by it.
You know how I was effected by all of this? I was worried for my friends for one afternoon, and then I wasn't allowed outside today. I don't know anybody who died or got injured. The bombers never came to my area, and the same can be said for the majority of people in Boston.
It's easy to say this is a celebratory occasion when you were watching from the safety and security of your own home, but if you lost someone to the bombers or spent the entire day worrying that this guy could be hiding in your backyard, you wouldn't be out there.
The whole American spirit thing is bullshit. Unless the American Spirit is to celebrate minor victories in the face of great loss, then yeah, woo fucking hoo, we did it. You know what a real victory would have been? If this had never happened in the first place.
JGlass, you're being naive with the wish it never happened thing. We are at war, and we've been at war with Radical Islam for decades now. We have had the fortune of being able to hide behind an ocean on each side for a while, but unfortunately the world has changed. We were over due for an attack on our home soil. This is why when the authorities tell you to remain alert and vigilant, you do that. Shit like this sucks, but its also a reminder to appreciate what we have in this country. I've been to countries where I was threatened for simply being an American. Our military members will tell you all about being in danger and how lucky we have it here.
I'm not going to tell you how to think or feel, but as an outsider, most of this country is fucking proud of Boston tonight. The citizens cooperation, the law enforcement kicking ass and keeping more people from being hurt, and you're government working together. I know there's a lot of negative to go with it, and you're closer to the situation than most, but look for the positives as well.
I'm not going to tell you how to think or feel, but as an outsider, most of this country is fucking proud of Boston tonight. The citizens cooperation, the law enforcement kicking ass and keeping more people from being hurt, and you're government working together. I know there's a lot of negative to go with it, and you're closer to the situation than most, but look for the positives as well.
I realize that things like this are going to happen. Of course they are. But when 9/11 happened, did people dance in the street when it was done? No. People realized that there was a terrible loss of life and that things were going to change forever. The same can be said about this, though obviously at a much smaller scale.
I'm proud of Boston too, especially of the police force, which is one of the many reasons I'm not thrilled with the partying in the streets. All the same, I'd be more proud of Boston if they showed some empathy for those whose lives have been changed for the worse, or even taken over these past 5 days. Dancing in the street while someone comes to terms with the fact that they will never walk again isn't exactly showing support for those who were injured in the events of this week.
Big Nick Dudley
Nick
First of all, we don't know who they actually represent. Maybe they're just morons.
Second - I've always felt calling them "terrorists" empowers them. They're murderers. That's more insulting and makes them seem less important.
The Butcher
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Stormtrooper
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The celebrating is about closure. They got the mother fucker who did this. The worry is over, the city can sleep tonight knowing that the men who performed these evil deeds are no longer capable of doing so.
And there's a big difference between this and 9/11.
9/11 had no immediate revenge (hate to use that word but it's the only one I can think of). The men who did the deed were either dead right away (the guys in the plane) or living on the other end of the world (Bin Laden). As such there was nothing to celebrate.
Eventually, this happened (and this). That was the post 9/11 celebration, they just happened 9.5 years later. And the celebrations were glorious.
This is a pretty good point, but like you said, this is different from 9/11. First of all, partying in the streets right now requires the attention of the BPD, the same police department that spent the past 24+ hours on an exhausting manhunt. I think we can all agree that Boston police officers deserve to be at home with their families, and probably getting some well deserved sleep, not making sure a bunch of college kids don't get drunk in the street and start causing mayhem.
Secondly, killing Bin Laden was not a single objective. It was an objective that was part of a much larger mission, which was to end terrorism in the Middle East. Taking out this kid in Watertown ended his reign of terror, yes, but he thoroughly kicked our asses before going down. I don't think that's something to celebrate.
I realize it might be un-American to admit that he kicked our asses, but he did. He killed four people and injured hundreds of others, and it took us nearly 5 days to track him down and capture him. He accomplished his goal of hurting innocent Americans, and we failed to protect those people, which is our goal. That is why I can't bring myself to celebrate this with anything more than a big sigh of relief and a thank you to all those that worked so hard to catch him.
Nate DaMac
Fuck erbody but me
I get it. These people were going to get drunk tonight anyway, they just had an excuse to get drunk in the streets instead of in a bar.
Stormtrooper
Championship Contender
This I agree with. Although I think the individuals who were chasing this guy would be happy to have to deal with a drunk asshole instead of a terrorist.
Bil Laden was the man who was responsible for 9/11. When we got him, we got the man responsible. That's what the celebration was about, getting the mother fucker responsible for the attack. That's really what I was comparing it to. Believe me Bin Laden was bigger then this asshole. But for these people, who were scared to leave the house, with the whole city in lockdown, yeah, they should celebrate the fact that they can go on with their lives again, all the while taking account of what was lost (lives, health, etc)
Oh it's fair assessment that we got our asses kicked, but lets use an MMA analogy (because Boxing is dead). This kid won round 1, but we knocked him the fuck out in the 3rd (or better yet we KOed one and submitted the other). We won the fight after losing a round.
The thing that got me the most, I saw on the news (I was at a bar without much sound on the TV) that, when the cops were driving away (from what I assume was where they got the son of a bitch) there were people on the side of the road cheering them on like a fucking parade. Those people were thanking the lawmen who got the bad guy.
Yes, but for what they've just been through they deserve a hot meal and a good night's sleep, let alone a medal.
I just feel that it's disrespectful to those who aren't celebrating, that's all. I get that I'm being a wet blanket here, but after this guy has caused so much damage it seems rather self-absorbed to celebrate like this.
I was at a bar tonight just to grab a few beers with my buddy, and there people there wearing American flag capes, USA t-shirts, and all sorts of other American garb. I'm thankful for the BPD, the FBI, the National Guard, and everyone else that helped end this situation, but to act like this is some great victory for the United States is ridiculous. These men caused massive damage, and we killed one and have another in custody.
How did we win this fight? Because we caught the guy that did it? He killed 4 people and injured over a hundred more. How is that winning?
We got revenge, that's it. A win would be stopping him before he set off that first bomb.
That I'd have no problem with, but that's not what was going on in my side of town. People were blocking up the streets over by me, marching around Back Bay, screaming and shouting in the streets and chanting "USA! USA!"
There's also a fair bit of this, I'm sure, especially because my area was relatively unaffected by the events of this week. In fact, the school sent us texts all day about how our area is completely safe.
WCWMondayNitroOnYT
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Since we're talking about dancing in the streets, some of those dirty terrorist-loving Muslims were dancing in the streets when the Boston Marathon bombing occurred. When will America say enough is enough? http://www.barenakedislam.com/2013/...treets-of-gaza-after-boston-terrorist-attack/
Because that site doesn't have an agenda or anything...
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Not sure how I feel about such 'celebrating' - not even sure I would call it celebrating. It is an expression of relief. Part of me agrees with JGlass that this should be a time for introspection not even taking into account that the potential for other terrorists to target such celebrations.
But for a city to be locked down and not have much experience with such terrorism, the people that live there have every right to express their thanks to the authorities and their relief and if that entails taking to the streets then fair enough.
But for a city to be locked down and not have much experience with such terrorism, the people that live there have every right to express their thanks to the authorities and their relief and if that entails taking to the streets then fair enough.
klunderbunker
Welcome to My (And Not Sly's) House
Think of it like this.
The point of terrorism is to scare people into changing their way of life. Yesterday, Boston was put into lockdown out of fear of being shot or bombed again. After he was captured last night, that fear was over. The celebrating in the streets is a way of saying they don't have to be afraid to go outside anymore, which means the terrorism doesn't work anymore.
The point of terrorism is to scare people into changing their way of life. Yesterday, Boston was put into lockdown out of fear of being shot or bombed again. After he was captured last night, that fear was over. The celebrating in the streets is a way of saying they don't have to be afraid to go outside anymore, which means the terrorism doesn't work anymore.
AndThat'sTheBottomLine
I am the
Kind of like a slap in the face of other terrorists.
justinsayne
Cody Rhodes is an excellant
Because now with one dead, & the other in custody, they cant do this again, they can't kill or hurt anymore people, in that way this is a victory.
Yeah, but for all we know by catching these fuckers we've prevented them from setting off more bombs & killing hundreds of other people.
The way I look at it is sure these two ********s may have won a few rounds but in the end we won fight, of course this is coming from a guy who lives over 1500 mi. away in SD, & not in the middle of the city in which all this horriable shit took place.
Pay Per Ghost
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If someone really wants chaos, how can you stop him? If someone just wants unmitigated fear spread, how do you stop his first attack when you live among millions.
The world is better connected, its easier and quicker to contact the authorities than it was in the 70s but if someone really wants to just, kill for some twisted reason, it would be near impossible to get him before he does.
The world is better connected, its easier and quicker to contact the authorities than it was in the 70s but if someone really wants to just, kill for some twisted reason, it would be near impossible to get him before he does.
