Biggest Missuse of Talent ever commited by Vince Mcmahon

[Rated K for Kennedy... Kennedy!]

I don't want to, but I HAVE to say RVD, simply because when he came in during the Invasion angle he was so damn hot! He was getting bigger pops than anyone, and an RVD vs Austin match would have blown the buyrates through the roof, but as Raven says in forever hardcore, NEW YORK were afraid to pull the trigger, and he gets the belt 5 years later, as a publicity stunt for the "new" ECW! awful.

 

[mulvey187]

justin credible it just show it wasnt just wcw who didnt have an eye for fresh talent it was wwe aswell how any could transform into jobber aldo montoya into justin credible is amazing he is still only 34 now and could be good on ecw/smackdown
plus masato tanaka why didnt wwe nab him when they could

 

[jasu]

Christian - was more over then cena imo, cena was getting stale and christian was tearing the house down with his charisma and his wrestling ability. I was there that night in calgary ... the place was packed with peeps, Christian was seriously really over in the wwe and then they started putting him on Velocity ..... cant blame him for leaving

RVD - he was being cheered over the Rock and Austin and he wasnt used right almost his whole career in the WWE. His fued with jeff was awesome and then brock came and took his big push away

Razor Ramon - it confuses me how the bad guy razor ramon never got a bigger push in the wwe. I guess thats one of the reasons he left to wcw other then the money

 

[ayork]

There is a right answer to this one and as someone pointed out before...JOHN CENA. This guy is one of the worst chararcters that has won the title and has kept it for as long as he has. His character is stale....his look is stale...he has one group that actually roots for him...women and little kids. He is not nearly the draw that warrants a person staying on top for as long as he has. On top of all that he can't wrestle. He is misused because he is constanly being pushed beause he sells...t-shirts. Thats it!!! He sells t-shirts! Shows why any true wrestling fan hates him!!

 

[blkscrpn5]

I have a new one to add to this list Ron Farooq Simmons.... he was given a chance to run with the belt for a little bit in Wcw but never was given any real run other than the APA during his run in WWE/F... they just let that heat go sometime during his run with the nation of domination

Another one would be Teddy Long.....he is a perfect person on the mic to team up a good wrestler with....and he was always a great heel

 

[thebigmargoo]

Old school...Ricky Steamboat! Too bad he didn't compete in a different era. He was the epitome of the super over face, but the blond, technically inept Thunderlips was in his way. Oh if they could have had a feud...

 

[waylon p]

how about terry taylor? "the red rooster?" aww, c'mon!

as far as current talent, they should stop trying to turn c.m. punk into frankie kazarian. they didn't use kaz when they had him, and now are trying to turn another guy into him. i think it is an insult to them both.

oh, yeah...NICK DINSMORE.... i think that says it all.

 

[kszonew]

There are A LOT of people who are misused right now and have been in the past. A lot of that is because they are forced to conform to the "WWE style" of wrestling and/or certain things in their moveset don't fit their gimmick so they aren't allowed to perform them. In addition, some don't fit the mold of what McMahon wants so they never get the push they deserve and/or get released because creative have "nothing for them".

To some extent, I think Orton and Kennedy are a tad misused. Yeah, Orton is the WWE champ at the moment and plays a great heel, but he's capable of showcasing more in his matches. I liked Kennedy a lot on Smackdown, but since coming to Raw he's been a tad bit bland to me and out of place.

Pretty much any cruiserweight in the company at the moment is also misused, but sadly that won't change since McMahon has never understood cruiserweight style matches. Heck, in general, I don't think he even understands what sort of styles of wrestling are popular today. As well, the women who CAN wrestle, the ones who were trained to and aren't diva search winners or losers. All greatly misused to some extent. Instead of being the centerpoint of the division, they are more or less there for filler except Beth Phoenix. It saddens me when talented and attractive indy women wrestlers are working for a few bucks on the weekends while women who might not even have wanted to actually wrestle are being paid big bucks by WWE to pretty much train during their tv time.

 

[obsidiana]

There have been a lot of people who have been missused by Vince over the years. Trying to get a list together would take years lol. I know these guys have been stated before but I would have to go with Kane, Raven, RVD, the luchadores when they came from Mexico, and the Mexicools when they came to WWE. That is all I can think of right now......

 

[SmokeStack]

What about the Masterpiece Chris Masters... I think if they would've let him be him instead of a California Meathead he probably would've been over... He was a good in ring talent with a horrible gimmick and a ridiculous entrance

but in the case of C.M. Punk I don't see why everybody thinks he is being used improperly... He makes ECW basically worth watching... As well as being featured in prominent matches on RAW and Smackdown... Remember he's only been with the WWE for maybe a year and a half... I'd see him going to Raw after the draft or something... Give em time brother...

 

[Mugatunow]

I would go with William Regal... for starters. William Regal has got everything you could possibly want in a wrestler. The skills, the attitude, the overall ablity to draw money and self promote and make himself look like a big star.

 

[Canadian Knight]

I say Big Show. Look at him the biggest wrestler there and mostly they use him for secondary matches and we rarely see him in the title picture. If he was champion you send everyone after him until BAM, you get someone else like Khali (if he had moves that is).

 

[KevinKross15]

I think its kendrick and london because they are so much more talanted then john cena or batista. they were so good in indy promotions and they were even better on smackdown now there jobbers for horrible wrestlers like mr.kennedy and umaga, wwe needs to showcase their talents better

 

[bioshock]

Heres my list of the top guys I think have been misused by Vince

Randy Savage - cmon play by play while still in his prime??
Hulk Hogan - 1992 - 1994 MISUSED!
Dusty Rhodes - sure great as a mid carder, but he could of been used alot better, least while in the late 80s
Jake Roberts - very few could rally the fans like Jake, he never sniffed a singles title.
Bret Hart - most part wasnt misused, but a few stints during the mid 90s he was treated as nothing more then a mid card talent, was Hogan ever on a mid card level?
The Rockers - Tag titles?
Booker T - he should of been world champion way back when, like way back at Wrestlemania 19 when HHH was still hogging the spotlight
Kane - 1 World championship in under 24hrs
Big Bossman - such a talented big man, he could of been so much more in the 80s or 90s
Owen Hart - he should of become champion even if for a short time in 94 or 95 following his King of the Ring win
Razor Ramon - how do you get to the Royal Rumble 1993 wrestling Bret Hart for the WWF Championship then be down graded to Bob Backlund at Wm9 then to 1-2-3 Kid and then nothing more then the IC title for the next 3 years. He should of been right up fueding for the WWF title for the 3 years, not the IC title.

 

[SpecialReferee]

1.) Mr. Perfect circa 1993- He was ridiculously over with the crowd, and was jobbed out on every pay per view that year..

A.) Lost the Royal Rumble
B.) Lost to Luger
C.) Lost to HBK

He did beat Flair in the Career Match, but their was no follow up push after that.


2.) Doink the Clow- You may be scratching your head, or laughing. But Doink was a good wrestler, but once he was turned face and given a midget, it was nothing but down hill after that.

3.) Owen and Bulldog- Both should have won World Titles in the WWF.

 

[rolltide_pisco]

I'll tell ya who they not only dropped the ball with but they threw him underneath the bus: Muhammad Hassan (Mark Magnus). I know he wasn't all the way there and not nowhere accomplished yet, but he had the gimmick down perfect and was drawing great heat. He could've been 1991 Sgt. Slaughter (who was traitor for Iraq) and had all the good guys come out and kick his ass.

What do they do? They ship him over to Smackdown. Over to the network that 6-12 year olds watch and they do a terrorist thing and carry Daivari out like a martyr? Then when the shit hits the fan, all they decide instead of a heartfelt apology for writing the bullshit, they just end his contract and Taker beats the shit out of him at the ppv?

If they did the angle on RAW it wouldn't have made a stir cause look at all the crap they've done on there. It wouldn't have made a difference

 

[dizzle]

Misuse of talent huh? Well 3 names come to mind when this topic arises. First you have to think of Bob Holly. Holly has been loyal for years and he makes a great heel, but they've never seen fit to do much of anything with him "aside from the feud with Lesnar". The next person who comes to mind is Chris Jericho. Jericho has amazing mic skills and in ring talent, he was the 1st unified/undisputed champion and he has a strong fan base. Even with all of these things going for him he continues to bounce around on the mid card level everytime a new flavor of the month comes along. The last person I want to talk about hasn't been around all that long but shows unlimited potential. I'm talking about John Morrison. He was part of a lame tag team for WAY too long. He wasn't on television half the time once he went to Raw. They handed the ECW Championship to him "from out of nowhere" when the Benoit ignorance happened. After they took his title away and handed it to the lame ass CM Punk they partnered him with The Miz "who is beyond awful. When Morrison does get to wrestle singles matches he's not much more than a jobber, and it's ridiculous. John Morrison is the most talented wrestler that I've seen come along in the WWE in years. Surley the decision makers in the WWE can see that. Now I'd like to touch upon the subject of overrated wrestlers. The man who tops this list is without doubt John Cena. Cena is terrible, plain and simple. His gimmick "or lack thereof" is lame. His finishers are horrid, the F.U. "bad death valley driver", and the STFU "it's the stf for cryin' out loud". Then there's the fact that 50% of the fans hate him even though he's the biggest face in the business. Then there's Batista. I'm not even going to explain why he sucks, it's painfully obvious. Now I want to talk about CM Punk. What's so special about this guy? He's a punk huh? If he's so punk why does he wrestle in underwear style tights? Why does he do the same three moves over and over again? Why does he have a pepsi logo tattooed on him? I know the answer for that last one, I'm simply stating the fact that there's nothing "punk" about him. I've been told that CM Punk is a great heel, but I'm not familiar with him prior to his stint in TNA so I can't comment on that. Then there's Big Daddy V/Viscera/King Mable/Mable. Why do they keep pushing this guy? He's been around for years and he's always sucked. Lastly there's Mark Henry, the same thing I said about King Daddy Visermable applies to him as well. Those are my thoughts...

 

[Rated K for Kennedy... Kennedy!]

1.) Mr. Perfect circa 1993- He was ridiculously over with the crowd, and was jobbed out on every pay per view that year..

A.) Lost the Royal Rumble
B.) Lost to Luger
C.) Lost to HBK

He did beat Flair in the Career Match, but their was no follow up push after that.
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I agree, Hennig was awesome, but in HBK's book he comments how him and Curt never had a great match as they both tried to make the other look too good and neither of them were all that good at looking strong themselves, and I think his awful (through no fault of his own) WCW run kinda proves that!

But hey, nobody's PERFECT!

 

[MidnightExpress]

Misuse of talent huh? Well 3 names come to mind when this topic arises. First you have to think of Bob Holly. Holly has been loyal for years and he makes a great heel, but they've never seen fit to do much of anything with him "aside from the feud with Lesnar". The next person who comes to mind is Chris Jericho. Jericho has amazing mic skills and in ring talent, he was the 1st unified/undisputed champion and he has a strong fan base. Even with all of these things going for him he continues to bounce around on the mid card level everytime a new flavor of the month comes along. The last person I want to talk about hasn't been around all that long but shows unlimited potential. I'm talking about John Morrison. He was part of a lame tag team for WAY too long. He wasn't on television half the time once he went to Raw. They handed the ECW Championship to him "from out of nowhere" when the Benoit ignorance happened. After they took his title away and handed it to the lame ass CM Punk they partnered him with The Miz "who is beyond awful. When Morrison does get to wrestle singles matches he's not much more than a jobber, and it's ridiculous. John Morrison is the most talented wrestler that I've seen come along in the WWE in years. Surley the decision makers in the WWE can see that. Now I'd like to touch upon the subject of overrated wrestlers. The man who tops this list is without doubt John Cena. Cena is terrible, plain and simple. His gimmick "or lack thereof" is lame. His finishers are horrid, the F.U. "bad death valley driver", and the STFU "it's the stf for cryin' out loud". Then there's the fact that 50% of the fans hate him even though he's the biggest face in the business. Then there's Batista. I'm not even going to explain why he sucks, it's painfully obvious. Now I want to talk about CM Punk. What's so special about this guy? He's a punk huh? If he's so punk why does he wrestle in underwear style tights? Why does he do the same three moves over and over again? Why does he have a pepsi logo tattooed on him? I know the answer for that last one, I'm simply stating the fact that there's nothing "punk" about him. I've been told that CM Punk is a great heel, but I'm not familiar with him prior to his stint in TNA so I can't comment on that. Then there's Big Daddy V/Viscera/King Mable/Mable. Why do they keep pushing this guy? He's been around for years and he's always sucked. Lastly there's Mark Henry, the same thing I said about King Daddy Visermable applies to him as well. Those are my thoughts...

I have to agree with you about Jericho. Other than his size, he really has the total package: mic skills, great matches, super charisma. Unfortunately, ther e are a few things missing from Bob Holly and John Morrison. THEY DO NOT EVER DRAW A DIME!!!!! No one cares about them. Morrison's awful gimmick sure doesn't help him at all, and he does have a great look and is good in the ring, but his promos are painful to watch. Bob Holly's great if you like a roughneck, legitimately tough guy, and he is a great worker, but he has the charisma of Eeyore. Cena, on the other hand, no matter how much you hate him, is one the top three promo guys in the business, and no matter where it is, his pop is huge, regardless of whether they are cheers or boos or both. They should go ahead and turn him heel though and give everyone a reason to boo him. I think it would get over huge.

 

[Chadmw]

Biggest misuse of talent was whoever Vince was able to steal from NWA/WCW in the late 80's early 90's. He buried whatever talent he could from those companies that came over (Dusty Rhodes, Vadar, any cruiser weight, Barry Windham etc), it just seemed Vince didn't know what to do with guys that were over in other companies except to bury them.

 

[Hillman]

Finlay and Hardcore Holly are my picks for this. Sure these two guys don't draw much, but they put up a good match. There are lots of fans who would like to see a little bit more wrestling. WWE can have storylines, but at the same time, have some pure wrestling. These two guys can definitely do the job. Vince should put a little more real wrestling into the WWE. Doesn't have to be a lot, but at least have some.

 

[Cage917r]

I'll tell ya who they not only dropped the ball with but they threw him underneath the bus: Muhammad Hassan (Mark Magnus). I know he wasn't all the way there and not nowhere accomplished yet, but he had the gimmick down perfect and was drawing great heat. He could've been 1991 Sgt. Slaughter (who was traitor for Iraq) and had all the good guys come out and kick his ass.

What do they do? They ship him over to Smackdown. Over to the network that 6-12 year olds watch and they do a terrorist thing and carry Daivari out like a martyr? Then when the shit hits the fan, all they decide instead of a heartfelt apology for writing the bullshit, they just end his contract and Taker beats the shit out of him at the ppv?

If they did the angle on RAW it wouldn't have made a stir cause look at all the crap they've done on there. It wouldn't have made a difference

I actually agree with this, Muhammad Hassan had the chances to be great. He was great on the mic and drew massive heat from the crowd. I mean if you look back at some highlights, he had a great run and then suddenly it was over. They never should have moved him to Smackdown!, the gimmic was too risky.

I also think that they could have repackaged him, he had the look, the mic skills and pretty good in ring abiltiy, he should have been a star. Instead of simply terminating his contract, they should have repackaged him, its not like they have not done it a million times with other wrestlers(Paul Burchill).

All in All, Muhammad Hassan got jobbed, he had the potential to be great and was screwed over by a bonehead decision by WWE.

 

[jag27]

I always thought that Vince really misused Steamboat during his 2nd run with the company in '91. With those epics matches he had with Flair still pretty fresh in people minds, he gives him a cartoonish over the top fire breathing dragon gimmick.

Savage also comes to mind during his appointed colour commentary years 92' to 94' in which he still had a hell of lot left in his tank IMO. A Bret Hart vs Randy Savage program for the title would of drawn a lot of money for the company.

Other notables: Dynamite Kid (singles run) - if you saw The Wrestling Classic PPV in 85', you know why he should of been in more singles competition from that moment on.

Adrian Adonis - Yes his weight was a issue and he look gross in tights, but the man was one of the most underrated wrestlers of that era as he was entertaining to watch. Tragic end to his WWF run as he showed up in AWA well over 300 lbs and pretty much put out to pasture up until his death in 88'.

Paul Orndorff - After his program with Hogan he was quickly removed of any importance in the WWF till he left the company. Even with his atrophy that he suffered, he was one of the best heels during that decade. Best piledriver in the business, bar none!

 

[Kidgloves]

Old school...Ricky Steamboat! Too bad he didn't compete in a different era. He was the epitome of the super over face, but the blond, technically inept Thunderlips was in his way. Oh if they could have had a feud...

I was wondering when someone would mention Steamboat. Vince making him dress up as a ''dragon'' and spit fire, may be one of the worst ideas in WWE/F history.

 

[Kidgloves]

I'll tell ya who they not only dropped the ball with but they threw him underneath the bus: Muhammad Hassan (Mark Magnus). I know he wasn't all the way there and not nowhere accomplished yet, but he had the gimmick down perfect and was drawing great heat. He could've been 1991 Sgt. Slaughter (who was traitor for Iraq) and had all the good guys come out and kick his ass.

What do they do? They ship him over to Smackdown. Over to the network that 6-12 year olds watch and they do a terrorist thing and carry Daivari out like a martyr? Then when the shit hits the fan, all they decide instead of a heartfelt apology for writing the bullshit, they just end his contract and Taker beats the shit out of him at the ppv?

If they did the angle on RAW it wouldn't have made a stir cause look at all the crap they've done on there. It wouldn't have made a difference

Yeah, I never quiet understood why Hassan was made the scapgoat for a promo he didn't write. Plus, why didn't they just keep him off TV for 6 months and repackage him.