Biggest Missuse of Talent ever commited by Vince Mcmahon

[md_killa]

recent misue I dont know because i havent watched a wwe show in a few years. However, back when i watched prince albert was miuased horribly he now is a superstar with japan's wrestling organization. He holds the tag team titles along with tomko.

 

[bambam]

The British Bulldog Davey Boy Smith: He was a life long mid-carder. He had a great look, ok mic skills, good power moves, but WWE could have worked in some new moves, he could have been a World Champ.

Owen Hart: Same as Bulldog. Good look, good mic skills, great tech. wrestler. But what did the "great" Mr. Mcmahon do towards the end of his career, MAKE HIM THE BLUE F*CKIN BLAZER!

Vader: How do you have a guy that is the biggest draw in Japan, a great big man in WCW, and just a great big man in general, and make him look like crap in almost all of his matches.

VINCE SUCKS!

 

[ABS]

Sorry but Im goign to go a littile off topic here but Alot of people here are complaining about Shelton not getting pushed , but if WWE are doing what I'm thinkign then its a smart move becuase look at shelton , hes probably the greatest Athlete and dare to say wrestler in this industry and they don't wnat to push his ass so fast so at the end he walks away since he won everything in a matter of 5 years.

This is the mistake WWe did to The Rock and Brock Lesner , they pushed them WAAAAY to fast and especilly Brock to the matter were they jsut did it all in just a short period of time. Even Rock said it he doesnt want to returns becuase there's notihng to return to he DID it all in a shot period of time and same has been done to Brock. Theyre doing a Benoit with Shelton a personw who stayed in the Indutry for so damn long so at the end it all pay offs at the biggest stage of them all. Have Patience with SB as soon he will be a star.

Now to the biggest misuse is Kane. Imo the guy can be the one who pushes the SD rating back into the 3's and the guy fully deserves it , yet hes always jobbing.

 

[bambam]

Kane is prob the best pick bar none

If WWE would go back and start the kane edge feud again it could work out great. maybe even make kane a heel again.
10 years in the business and nothing to show.

VINCE SUCKS!

 

[BooCocky]

All of the Original ECW Members: When they came in, Vince pretty much just wanted to show that he owned ECW, he made it a laughing stock! The WWECW sucks A$$! From Sabu, RVD, Sandman, Rhino, Raven, Dreamer Everyone. The only one still around is Dreamer and the last time he was used was to job to Big Daddy V's fat a$$! Then when Vince brings in RVD for the 15th ann. He sees the great response and pretty much beggs him back.....I wish I could have been there!



Vince SUCKS!

Vince didnt ruin the ECW originals, nor did he misuse the talent. None of them really had any talent to misuse, outside of beating people with sticks, and throwing em through a table. Those ECW superstars had more publicity in their short time in WWE, than they had throughout their entire careers in ECW. Why is that? Because WWE is the big leagues, and ECW was AAA when it came to Wrestling. Those ECW superstars, excluding a couple were basically talentless, and not many people wanted to see them. thats why they were "misused". Mr McMahon operates a billion dollar business, and he is only going to push the people that will make him a lot of money.

Why did Vince use the ECW name? He knew he could make a little money off of the ECW name, and not the wrestlers.

Kane is prob the best pick bar none

If WWE would go back and start the kane edge feud again it could work out great. maybe even make kane a heel again.
10 years in the business and nothing to show.

VINCE SUCKS!

How was Kane misused? He had a world title reign, he was always over. Kane is a triple crown champion, so i do not see how he was misused.


I believe the current day Cruiserweight division is being misused. they got some talent in Noble, Moore, Wang Yang, and so forth. The CW division is a lost cause, but it could have been something great, especially when they had Ultimo Dragon, Rey Mysterio, Chavo, and so many others. But Mr McMahon can't make the big bucks off of them, that is why they are pushed aside for the likes of Daddy V, and Mark Henry.

 

[jnunez71]

to me the on missuse of talent is carlito he has great mic skilll and is a sound wrestler plus he has main evented in puerto rico before im not say that he should be main eventing in the wwe but they really need to put him in the title picture like the IC or US title im glad they stopped the stupid shit they were having him do with hornswoggle

 

[bambam]

BRIANBECKERISAGOD;354423]Vince didnt ruin the ECW originals, nor did he misuse the talent. None of them really had any talent to misuse, outside of beating people with sticks, and throwing em through a table. Those ECW superstars had more publicity in their short time in WWE, than they had throughout their entire careers in ECW. Why is that? Because WWE is the big leagues, and ECW was AAA when it came to Wrestling. Those ECW superstars, excluding a couple were basically talentless, and not many people wanted to see them. thats why they were "misused". Mr McMahon operates a billion dollar business, and he is only going to push the people that will make him a lot of money.

Why did Vince use the ECW name? He knew he could make a little money off of the ECW name, and not the wrestlers.

Nice post. I even gave you some rep.

Vince did just use the name of ECW to make a Buck. But you think none of then had talent? If so then how do you explain One Night Stand 2005 being one of the best PPV in the last 5-10 years! Sabu, Supercrazy, Sandman, all of them were pumped as hell for that night and it showed! And just take Sabu Alone! Sabu, IF USED RIGHT, could take almost any WWE star and run laps around him! He took the Originals, told them I am going to take the extream out of ECW, What you guys have built your legacy upon, and make you guys a JOKE! In the start of the new ECW the ratings were in the mid 2's, after all of the Originals left, it became a televised version of heat, and it fell to 1.3! If he could have used them, and used them right, ECW could still be in the 2's, and not compeating with TNA!

How was Kane misused? He had a world title reign, he was always over. Kane is a triple crown champion, so i do not see how he was misused.


I believe the current day Cruiserweight division is being misused. they got some talent in Noble, Moore, Wang Yang, and so forth. The CW division is a lost cause, but it could have been something great, especially when they had Ultimo Dragon, Rey Mysterio, Chavo, and so many others. But Mr McMahon can't make the big bucks off of them, that is why they are pushed aside for the likes of Daddy V, and Mark Henry.

And as far as Kane not being Misused, a one day title reign is using him right? He does have 9 tag-title reigns, but most are less then 3 weeks! and his IC title reign is less then that! You have a big guy, put him in great storylines with Taker and Mankind, give him a small push for the title, and then after 5 years just make him a jobber! Kane sells and looks better in the ring then most guys getting a push right now! How can you say that the CW's were misused but Kane wasn't because he got his "15 min of fame!". If he did, then so did the CW's! They are having the same career as Kane, Small Push, and now most are jobbers.

 

[BooCocky]

Vince did just use the name of ECW to make a Buck. But you think none of then had talent? If so then how do you explain One Night Stand 2005 being one of the best PPV in the last 5-10 years! Sabu, Supercrazy, Sandman, all of them were pumped as hell for that night and it showed! And just take Sabu Alone! Sabu, IF USED RIGHT, could take almost any WWE star and run laps around him! He took the Originals, told them I am going to take the extream out of ECW, What you guys have built your legacy upon, and make you guys a JOKE! In the start of the new ECW the ratings were in the mid 2's, after all of the Originals left, it became a televised version of heat, and it fell to 1.3! If he could have used them, and used them right, ECW could still be in the 2's, and not compeating with TNA!

I don't know how to put this, but the ECW originals were more than likely gonna get jobbed out by the likes of Punk, and possibly even the Miz. I know it doesn't sound much, but they are still employed, and they are now used as jobbers. they are their to help the young ones get over, and they are helping by building towards the future of professional wrestling. McMahon got rid of some when they were no longer needed. Well there are the few exceptions, like RVD. But we all knew when Sandman came over to Raw it wasn't going to be long before we seen his name on the new release list.

McMahon just used the ECW name to make a quick buck, and i knew ONS had a high buyrate, but that did put them back in the limelight for a short period of time. Some of them probably did make a decent dollar, even if it meant getting there heads bashed in, or even getting lit on fire.

And as far as Kane not being Misused, a one day title reign is using him right? He does have 9 tag-title reigns, but most are less then 3 weeks! and his IC title reign is less then that! You have a big guy, put him in great storylines with Taker and Mankind, give him a small push for the title, and then after 5 years just make him a jobber! Kane sells and looks better in the ring then most guys getting a push right now! How can you say that the CW's were misused but Kane wasn't because he got his "15 min of fame!". If he did, then so did the CW's! They are having the same career as Kane, Small Push, and now most are jobbers.

I might be one of the only ones but i don't think Kane was ever misused. Maybe he wasn't capable of making McMahon money. I don't know, but that would be my guess. Kane has a career that he could be proud of, and not many wrestlers can or could say that. He was a Triple Crown Champion, he had a WWE title reign, Mr Perfect or Piper couldn't even say that. So many wrestling greats never had a WWE title reign, like Piper, Perfect, or even Jake Roberts. IMO if Kane didn't like the way he was being treated he owuld have walked out. It seems like he has no problem putting over younger stars, and now he is getting some television time, more than he was on SD, or Raw.

 

[edgehead80]

I really think that kane is misused and his popularity went down far i dont even think he is the same guy from wwf when he had the mask he is way different but he used to be in main events gimmik matches be the big monster every one was scared of and great wrestler now he just comes out and they make him face a new guy or who ever no title match no gimmick matches no main events its just a waste of talent

 

[AttitudeAJM]

Taking the mask off of Kane was the biggest mistake the WWE has made this decade. Although it didn't do much because Kane has simply fizzled away. But he's always just one push away from being a huge monster again. A lot of the guys mentioned were great in other companies but never adapted to how things were done in the WWE.

WWE does WWE style wrestling. They shouldn't change for a few guys. The guys should change for the company. Besides, would you put Sandman in a 20 minute match on television?

 

[RVDgurl]

Raven has to be the most misused wrestler in the history of the WWE. Vince was able to get him while he was still in the prime of his career. He turned one of the most complex characters ever into just another lackluster guy. He managed to dilute the gimmick so much that it was almost unrecognizeable. Scott Levy is not just a hardcore guy. He is a solid worker and tells a story in the ring like no other. He is able to make the most out of any storyline and is so creative in the way he tells the story of his matches. Vince definately missed the boat on this one.

 

[tuwind]

I'm gonna have to say Saturn. What the hell was with that ****** thing they had him do? Eating crayons in a restaurant? Or there was his WCW career where Raven would have his fingers broken every week by Lodi. Thats misuse.

 

[THe WHoLe FuCKiN SHoW]

Now theres one guy in particular that nobody has mentioned and no one ever seems to mention and i cant understand it because if your talking about misuse of talent well then the prime example is none other than:

"The Franchise" Shane Douglas!!!​

This guy was instrumental in developing the original ECW, which still has tons of fans today. Along with RVD, this was my favorite guy in ECW. The Franchise was the man. The guy had the awesome cocky, franchise gimmick, a good look, was fantastic on the mic and was responcible for truly giving ECW an identity when it was starting to become a respectable third wrestling company.

The guy had fantastic matches and fueds with the likes of Sandman, Tommy Dreamer, Taz, Raven, Al Snow, Brian Pillman and 2 Cold Scorpio. Among others.

He introduced "The Triple Threat" with Chris Benoit and Dean Malenko, which to this day has to be one of the best stables ever (with other versions of it being added later with Chris Candido and BBB).

And lets not forget one of the most famous promos in the history of sports entertainment, when the guy threw the NWA Title to the floor and replaced it with the ECW Title. This guy could generate heat instantly and he could jus as easily have everyone in the house behind him. The Franchise was ECW's Stone Cold.

He had a great arsenal of moves (the Pitscburgh Plunge and The Franchiser come to mind) and always entertained no matter what. This guy was a promo artist and a true entertainer. And then he goes to WWF/E and what happens? They completely waste him.

Those of you who have never seen Shane Douglas or have no idea what he contributed to the business probably wouldnt understand what im talking about but when he went to WWF that was an awesome opportunity for some excellent matches/fueds and who better to have been a part of the Attitude Era (an era that got a lot of its ideas from the ECW that Douglas carried for a long time) than The Franchise? He could have had matches/fueds with HBK, HHH, Stone Cold, Bret Hart, The Undertaker. The promos and matches would have been ridiculous. But instead they give him a retarted dean gimmick and a stupit outfit and give him a 5 minute IC Title run before running him out of the company. He could have been a WWF champion and maybe even took the "Good Guy Rebel" Gimmick before Austin could.

Bottom line, biggest misuse of talent ever: "The Franchise" Shane Douglas.

 

[Captain_Planet]

I think Christian may be the top waste. He was so talented, I believed even more than edge... but they never showcased him as that. after The Brood, it seemed like he was edge's sidekick and never got the respect he deserved. Remember the angle they did when edge won KOR and he thought he should have and was played as second fiddle to edge. I see that as the story of his time in wwe.

Kane, as many of you have noted. He should have been given stronger pushes and held the title longer that 24 hours. maybe he would have been alot bigger had they let him hold on at least till the next ppv.

ECW originals... all of them... when you bring back something like ecw, and advertise the original members as your primary draw, you don't pop up and bury them week in and week out. that was really ridiculous

There are SO MANY MORE, but I can't think of any more right now... Oh, why can't they get Charlie Haas right? He and Rob Conway are two that I thought should have been way bigger than what they were/are

 

[FytingIrish]

I have been thinking about this a lot while I have been watchin' wrestling the past few weeks. I agree with Shelton Benjamin (he is amazing) but I also believe that they are using Carlito and Santino in the wrong way. I mean, it's nice to have them in this little push for the tag championships, but wouldn't they be better off on their own? What happened to the Intercontinental Championship? I know they're pushing Jeff and don't want to make him "look bad" (in a "fake" sports entertainment match) by losing to someone like Carlito. They have a lot of good midcard talent that they could use to really push the IC belt to equal status to that of the WWE Championship. BUT, on the other hand, those matches would probably put the "Main Eventers" to shame. Can't wait to see how they kill Kofi Kingston next!
Underused, but could definitely be used to bring back IC "division":
Carlito, Santino, Shelton, Cody Rhodes, Jeff Hardy, Mr. Kennedy, Kofi (once he gets a little more work in), Morrison and I'm sure many others who have been burried and I can't remember them.

 

[Mr. Showtime]

Besides Kane which iv'e already mentioned.
Im gonna go with Elijah Burke. Last year he was getting a push with the whole new breed thing, i really believed he was gonna become ecw champion that year, but the wwe silently seperates the new breed with no explination and he was forgotten about. He's great on the mic, good in the ring and could be a top heel one day. If the wwe isn't going to give him the ecw title move him to raw and have him win the ic title. Can anyone actually say jeff hardy needs it anymore ? I can't .

 

[B.C. Krazee]

Once again I am gonna have to throw a name out there noone else has even mentioned, and that name is Barry Horowitz. This extraordinary talent probably only won 1 match the whole time he was with the WWF, and in my opinion that is a crying shame. Wrap your mind around this one: Steve "Brooklyn Brawler" Lombardi. Quite possibly the greatest gimmick of all time, but except for a handful of wins he became a jobber. So in conclusion when you mention misuses of talent don't forget these talented performers.

 

[Sportsperson411]

The most under used wrestler goes to Victoria. She is a former women's Champ who competed in steel cage matches and now barely gets TV time now. She may be the best female wrestler currently on the WWE roster. She needs a major push.

 

[shadowfalcon]

i have to say the biggest misuse of talent by vince is by far the ECW label. Its extreme championship wrestling not sunday night heat. ECW is supposed to be extreme matches and rules, hardcore gut wrenching action not a dumb down version of smackdown on cable. When was the last real hardcore match On ECW. In its day ECW (the original) was a perfect idea and promotion it just never got its chance to take it to the next level like TNA was able to do. The talent is there, all the wrestlers who cant get a major push on RAW or SMACKDOWN would be perfect for Extreme rules. A chance to come out and push it to the next level. The ECW originals like Tommy dreamer, Terry Funk, Taz, Sabu, the Sandman, Balls Mahoney im mean the list goes on and on. Some of the best matches Ive ever seen were on ECW like the bloodiest match ever Terry Funk vs Sabu in a barbed wire match. A testament to hardcore entertainers. They show what it means to be dedicated to entertaing fans not making money. Sorry for the rambaling on but i think that wwe needsd to take ECW past into mind and chage it up a bit and a few more titles, a 2 hour show, a bigger part of the pay per views. I can see it now the fist ever triple crown WWE tag team champions or maybe even A triple crown IC champ, the possiblities are endless. Maybe I should apply for a job. HAHAHA

 

[Father:_Polley]

gotta go for Kane. he's been up there at the top of the profession for years but has only ever won a mid-card title twice - the same amount as john morrison.

it's as if they're almost afraid to give him a title and i dont think that's really deserved. he's past his best now, but i think it's only fair to give him a run with a big title

 

[aidanbaxter]

I know it's been said about 20 times in this thread, but Kane is horribly underused. I would love him to see him feud with the Undertaker over the World Title.

Believe it or not, I always thought Shane McMahon should have wrestled more. I know he was mostly remembered for just high spots, but his matches were always entertaining, you have to give him that.

I also think Prince Albert had more potential than they showed faith in. I've watched matches of him in Japan, and I'm quite impressed. The same goes for Tomko.

I would really love to know the politicing behind getting a push, or getting used in the right manner. Obviously in-ring work is a big part of it, but I'm sure that the smallest things have restricted a wrestler's character.

 

[ckanagarajah]

I going a while back into the mid 90's. I think that Shane Douglas was a big mis-use of talent by vinnie mac. Shane Douglas is without a doubt one of the best heels in wrestling, has the charisma, mic skills, wrestling ability, and the overall ability that is just suited for a pure star. He was utilized so perfectly ECW, but yet again, Vinnie never considers the business and continually feeds his own ego and will only push stars that he "creates". His own ego is the sole reason that mega stars such as the likes of Sabu, RVD, Tazz, Booker T, Eddie Guerrero, CM Punk, Chris Benoit, Dean Malenko, and Raven have never been able to reach their true potentials. Sure, benoit, guerrero, RVD and booker t did win world titles, but their pushes were very short-lived. RVD's run-in with the law is a pretty good reason for taking the belt off, but they never even made an effort to bring him back in, and turned him into a mid-carder and made him lose to the likes of test. RVD was the star of ECW and should have been used to build the ECW brand. Benoit's run was very mediocre, and seemed as if he held the title for the lead man of evolution triple politics, even though he lost it to orton, who basically held it for HHH. Guerrero had a mediocre run too, who lost to the self proclaimed "Wrestling God". Chris Jericho was the first undisputed champ, but it seemed as if he was holding the title HHH during his quad injury. Something tells me that if HHH didn't have that injury, jericho wouldn't have been the lead man of the company.
Booker T, probably one of the most respectable guys in the company and with the boys in the locker-room, was totally disrespected at WM19 and his title reign as King Booker seemed like it was a pathetic attempt to keep Booker from leaving. Notice that all those from WCW that had reigns as WWF world champs only had the title once in their careers. Truly sad. You can basically add all those guys with Shane Douglas. Taking a guy like Shane Douglas and turning him into one of the wrestlers in Vince's cartoon world of wrestling as Dean Douglas is just one of many mis-uses of talent on Vinnie Mac's part.

 

[wildcard22583]

I love how people are getting pissed that soo many people are agreeing that Kane and Shelton are being stated waaay too much. But guess what? That tells you that everyone agrees that they are the MOST misued, as per the headline to this topic. If you are soo upset that they are the only ones talked about, bring up more people and stop complaining. I will state one thing though in regards to Kane. I might be mistaken, but I heard that he gave an interview and the reason why he hasnt been pushed as much as he should be, is the fact that he doesnt want to be in the line light and wants to give the younger talent and other guys a hand in "getting over". I commend that; so he isnt misused, just wants to be more down-played. It's kind of like Razor Ramon, people reaaaally liked him, but did you see him win the world title belt? no. why? He didnt want it. He was good with the IC and doing the matches he was doing.
I will also say that this topic might single out alot of wrestlers who are being dumped on, but that just tells you whats messed up with the WWE. You can admit that anyone who doesnt have or had the heavyweight title belt, has been misued. Everyone, because all other people are second nature and just contributing to filling in the cracks. I still stand behind Benjamin though, due to the fact that no one gets the shaft more than him considering his contributions. Have you seen Hardcore Holly pull of a springboard from a ladder onto 3 men? no. Have you seen Raven scale a freakn ladder to closeline y2j? no. So thats why "I" choose Bizzle. His talent has shown he is on a level like none other, and his mic skills are even getting better. But how can you become better and not be misused, if you are in a company where you are just another face if you are not a Cena, HHH, or Undertaker? Where the owner isnt giving the fans what they want, rather than giving them what HE wants. But hey, its their company and sadly enough money and numbers dont lie when it comes to their financial success.....

 

[Kane666]

How about the entire roster of the 80's?Vince had so many talented guys that should've worn gold but never did.I know Hogan was over hugely with the fans but i think having him lost to guys like paul orndorf and big john stud would've built him up even more.Say what you want about ric flair even he knew you had to put the world title on someone different from time to time.Anyone else think Bam Bam got the shaft during his WWF run?i mean they could've put the IC title on him or even a tag championship.

 

[CGros31]

I think that Vince had some talent that made good PPV's and paydays, but there are a couple of matches that could have drawn large amounts of money. When Ric Flair came to the WWF the first time, they should have immediately put him in the main event against Hulk Hogan for the WWF title. Ric Flair came in with the WCW belt and he claimed to be "The Real World's Heavyweight Champion." They could have played off of that along with the fact that Hogan was the top dog in the WWF and Flair was the top dog in the NWA/WCW for so long. Another match that could have taken place was in 1993. At Summerslam we could have seen Bret Hart vs Hulk Hogan for the WWF Title. I know this match was supposed to happen, but I feel that Vince McMahon didn't do enough to make this match happen. I know as a fan I would have paid to see that dream match.