Battleground 2015 LD
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Keep saying that. keep being positive. i guess damien sandow is in a great position huh? sure getting that push of a lifetime
Spidey Revivey
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Are...are you comparing a comedy jobber to Brock Lesnar?
Are you being blind and stupid? how can you not see that undertaker beating Lesnar will kill lesnar's heat? I literally can't comprehend what you WWE apologists are thinking.
Spidey Revivey
Porn is okay here long as it ain't dudes.
Are...are you comparing a comedy jobber to Brock Lesnar?
Nah there's no defending this crap. They made Seth look super weak, which is fine if Brock is going to win, but then you make BROCK look like a chump just so you can make a 50 year old man look good (despite him looking so flabby and sick), all to give us a rematch of one of the shittiest matches ever.
Then on top of that, you don't give the Seth/Brock match a finish. Not even an official DQ ruling. The ref and Seth just disappear. Like, I know this is pro wrestling, but sheesh...
The whole thing was almost as dumb as the Falcunts trading Brett Favre for Tony Smith.
Mighty NorCal
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What you didn't see was when the lights went out, Undertaker burst out of Seth Rollins' body, vaporizing both he and the ref.
This show had the chance to be show of the year directly after Owens' kicked out of the top rope AA. It fucking took a pronounced nosedive from there.
There is no sense in Cena winning, let alone by clean tapout, the Lesnar - Rollins match was hot garbage, and of course the non finish with a now visibly VERY aged and flabby Undertaker.......Which leads to? What, exactly? Lesnar winning again, which would have only avoided being pointless if it was for the title......Or Taker getting his win back, which would undo everything they did with Lesnar over the last couple years.
Undertaker mysteriously appears and then.......kicks Lesnar in the nuts?
Babes wept.
Both the tag match and Reigns - Wyatt were fantastic, the womens match was herky-jerky and clearly dragged down by nerves/trying too hard but was still passable.
This show had the chance to be show of the year directly after Owens' kicked out of the top rope AA. It fucking took a pronounced nosedive from there.
There is no sense in Cena winning, let alone by clean tapout, the Lesnar - Rollins match was hot garbage, and of course the non finish with a now visibly VERY aged and flabby Undertaker.......Which leads to? What, exactly? Lesnar winning again, which would have only avoided being pointless if it was for the title......Or Taker getting his win back, which would undo everything they did with Lesnar over the last couple years.
Undertaker mysteriously appears and then.......kicks Lesnar in the nuts?
Babes wept.
Both the tag match and Reigns - Wyatt were fantastic, the womens match was herky-jerky and clearly dragged down by nerves/trying too hard but was still passable.
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For anyone complaining about the logic of Taker coming out after 16 months to attack Lesnar you are not paying attention. The attack had nothing to do with the end of The Streak.
Taker is a large, well off, middle age, white male. What do large, well off, middle age, white males prize more than anything?
Cadillacs. When Brock destroyed that car it is like Taker sat at home and had the AARP card of his soul get ripped apart right in front of his face. Lesnar may as well have brought him a bowl of cold soup.
Taker is a large, well off, middle age, white male. What do large, well off, middle age, white males prize more than anything?
Cadillacs. When Brock destroyed that car it is like Taker sat at home and had the AARP card of his soul get ripped apart right in front of his face. Lesnar may as well have brought him a bowl of cold soup.
Kodo Sawaki
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Rumor is its Rollins/Lesnar/Taker for the title at Summerslam. Which is even more stupider except in terms of protection of contenders because of Brocks domination and sending Rollins or Taker to "Suplex City" if it was singles match. I mean, cant see taker winning and he doesnt need title or rematch with a man who was and would again decimate him. I understand its "money match" for WWE and that they are gona milk Taker who probably has 1-2 matches left in him till retire but its ridiculos.
Wow, people complain about everything on here. I thought the PPV last night was great. Most of the matches were excellent. In most of them, the winner looked great while the non-winner didn't look too bad. Granted, there was a total fundamental lack of logic to the way the title match ended, but has anyone on here ever watched Taker over his entire career? When did logic ever apply to an Undertaker return?
Sure, Rollins looked a little weak by the way it ended, and I don't know where the ref disappeared to. But if people would have a little patience, maybe things will be a little clearer after RAW tonight. Rollins will be just fine regardless of how it all plays out. For those of you who suggest Lesnar will lose his momentum by losing to the Undertaker, either last night or in the future, I say
And hopefully this will lead to what I still want to see: the Undertaker versus Sting.
Sure, Rollins looked a little weak by the way it ended, and I don't know where the ref disappeared to. But if people would have a little patience, maybe things will be a little clearer after RAW tonight. Rollins will be just fine regardless of how it all plays out. For those of you who suggest Lesnar will lose his momentum by losing to the Undertaker, either last night or in the future, I say
And hopefully this will lead to what I still want to see: the Undertaker versus Sting.
And on a totally unrelated note, I guess we can finally, mercifully, once and for all, end the IWC-perpetuated myth that the TNA Knockouts are superior to the WWE Divas.
justinsayne
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How the fuck does Taker beating Brock at SSlam undo him beating Taker at WMXXX? Pretty sure Brock is still the guy who ended the streak, still the 1 in 21-1, you can't undo what Brock did the the Deadman at WM, that's an accomplishment he can carry with him for life, nobody not even Taker can ever take that away from him.
Seth came out of the match looking fine, he looks like just as much of a chickenshit heel as he ever did.
The only thing that pissed me off with this show was Cena tapping Owens out, that will never make any sense to me. Owens kicks out of everything including a supper AA & then gives up to a STF? WTF?! At the very least have him lose by passing out to teh STF, Owens tapping to Cena's weak ass STF (seriously Cena, tighten your damn grip, there shouldn't be a giant gaping hole between your hands & Owens chin) doesn't fit Owens character at all. This formula of Cena dropping the first match & then winning every match after does nobody any favors, & Owens is quickly going from that badass heel that tells you what he's going to do & does it, to that typical heel who runs his mouth but can't back it up.
Seth came out of the match looking fine, he looks like just as much of a chickenshit heel as he ever did.
The only thing that pissed me off with this show was Cena tapping Owens out, that will never make any sense to me. Owens kicks out of everything including a supper AA & then gives up to a STF? WTF?! At the very least have him lose by passing out to teh STF, Owens tapping to Cena's weak ass STF (seriously Cena, tighten your damn grip, there shouldn't be a giant gaping hole between your hands & Owens chin) doesn't fit Owens character at all. This formula of Cena dropping the first match & then winning every match after does nobody any favors, & Owens is quickly going from that badass heel that tells you what he's going to do & does it, to that typical heel who runs his mouth but can't back it up.
Mighty NorCal
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VERY FUCKING QUICKLY
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Whoever thought it was a good idea to do Cena/Owens 3 PPV'S in a row is an idiot. Odds are Owens wins the belt next month in a Four Way with Cesaro and Rusev by pinning Cesaro because God knows we can't do anything with him.
Also another Taker/Brock will more likely than not be garbage. Adding Seth in there won't help a damn bit.
Also another Taker/Brock will more likely than not be garbage. Adding Seth in there won't help a damn bit.
Reflection
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Man, what a show! Absolutely loved it. Glad I watched, the matches were very solid and intriguing. Shame to see Harper go back to the family because things weren't working out as expected for him (or his leader).
That low-blow from The Undertaker makes me wonder if aheel corporate turn is in the making for him. The Authority has been depleted of its soldiers; they need more muscle to carry out their operations, and Taker needs some backing in order to beat the God of Violent Retribution.
I feel that the Cena vs Owens matches overdo the kick-out of a finisher, a bit too much. But I guess times are changing and that's an effective way to make the match more exciting.
However, the thing that I am most happy about is the long-awaited takeover by the Women from NXT. They showed that easy days are over now and you have to evolve in order to keep up. I loved a line made by one of them (Paige?) that they will be making a statement for the men as well.
Again, fantastic show overall. Thank you WWE for not making this another hopeless off-season PPV as in the previous years.
That low-blow from The Undertaker makes me wonder if a
I feel that the Cena vs Owens matches overdo the kick-out of a finisher, a bit too much. But I guess times are changing and that's an effective way to make the match more exciting.
However, the thing that I am most happy about is the long-awaited takeover by the Women from NXT. They showed that easy days are over now and you have to evolve in order to keep up. I loved a line made by one of them (Paige?) that they will be making a statement for the men as well.
Again, fantastic show overall. Thank you WWE for not making this another hopeless off-season PPV as in the previous years.
Nevermind Cena killing Owens momentum by making him tap out and turn into just another opponent.. I never really cared for owens so Cena can do what he wants with him..
I just hated how the main event ended.. 9 minutes, one of the shortest main events in history. They built it up, hyped it up so well, as a test for Rollins. J and J and kane were out; they could've made Seth finally prove himself, he didn't need to win cleanly, just get a decent amount of offense in and make himself look legit. Could've been a match of the year candidate given their unique styles. Instead, the match ended 15 minutes early so that Undertaker can set up his stupid rematch with Lesnar. Rollins and the referee just disappperaed out of nowhere; no explanation was given.. at least have Undertaker come out and attack the referee, SOMETHING.
Also, Lesnar losing to Undertaker WILL harm his momentum. He's been booked as an unstoppable force, he beat undertaker's streak, he fucking squashed cena, was about to beat roman reigns and seth rollins.. he's plowing through the entire roster. The secnod he gets beat, he shows vulnerability and loses a bit of his mystique. Sure, he will still be by far the strongest booked person on the roster, but he won't be as credibile as before.. kicking out of finishers at 1, taking the entire roster to suplex city,being booked like a beast etc.. then losing to Undertaker, just like that? How is that going to be believable?
I just hated how the main event ended.. 9 minutes, one of the shortest main events in history. They built it up, hyped it up so well, as a test for Rollins. J and J and kane were out; they could've made Seth finally prove himself, he didn't need to win cleanly, just get a decent amount of offense in and make himself look legit. Could've been a match of the year candidate given their unique styles. Instead, the match ended 15 minutes early so that Undertaker can set up his stupid rematch with Lesnar. Rollins and the referee just disappperaed out of nowhere; no explanation was given.. at least have Undertaker come out and attack the referee, SOMETHING.
Also, Lesnar losing to Undertaker WILL harm his momentum. He's been booked as an unstoppable force, he beat undertaker's streak, he fucking squashed cena, was about to beat roman reigns and seth rollins.. he's plowing through the entire roster. The secnod he gets beat, he shows vulnerability and loses a bit of his mystique. Sure, he will still be by far the strongest booked person on the roster, but he won't be as credibile as before.. kicking out of finishers at 1, taking the entire roster to suplex city,being booked like a beast etc.. then losing to Undertaker, just like that? How is that going to be believable?
This. All of it. 100x this. Especially the part about Owens. Man, WWE was doing so fn good with how he has been handled & after that Super AA kickout, I thought it was all about to come to a wonderful end. Then they undo what should have been quite awesome & he taps, then just walks away. It takes him down a few pegs & this should have been paint by numbers simple. You have him debut like that, drop the NXT belt and then lose the big match? I dont get it.
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As great as Cena can be most up and coming talents that feud with him come out looking worse for wear after the feud is over. We all should have seen this coming unfortunately.
But do you truly believe that Kevin Owens came out of this feud (and that's assuming it's over, which I'm far from convinced of) looking "worse for wear"? Because personally I think he came out of the feud looking like a million bucks, even though he was unsuccessful. Instant credibility for a guy who (despite his extensive pre-WWE history) is still a relative newcomer. I think the future is very bright for Kevin Owens (as well as the other less conventional guys following in his footsteps who came from elsewhere). One victory and two extremely competitive and hard fought losses against one of the greatest of all time, I'd take that in a heart beat if I were Mr. Owens.
It's people like you that make me not enjoy Cena as much.. Cena is an amazing performer. Truly one of the GOAT's, top notch promos, dozens of match of the year candidates, but his character and act is beyond stale.. also he tends to make the younger guys look like just regular opponents. Cena beating Owens two in a row just makes him look like just another monster heel to be conquered, just like Wyatt and Rusev. I can't believe Cena marks are this delusional that they believed that Cena put over Rusev by beating him 3 ppvs in a row. Jesus.. I know you like your guy, but please be realistic
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It's not that newbies Cena faces don't look good during the feud. It's management that for some reason has no idea to what to do with most of them following that final loss to him. It happened to Ziggler, Barrett, and even Wyatt and Rusev suffered from it. We'll see if the same happens to Owens. But I don't think we've seen the last of the feud, I just don't think they're stupid enough to do a fourth straight match.
Bernkastel
Reaper of Miracles
I think management knows exactly what to do with Kevin Owens. Smarks just don't like repetitiveness. And for that they need to suck it up. You can never have too much gold.
Keep having that faith in the creative team. Its gonna do you wonders! Management ALWAYS books their superstars right. Thats why there are so many new main eventers today!
Bernkastel
Reaper of Miracles
Except WWE does have several new main eventers, and if I believed that I could do a better job than creative then I would be up in Stamford doing just that. Also blatant generalizations will get you nowhere.
Nate DaMac
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I have to sort of agree with ******fuckboy here. Owens started as something special. Now, he's just another guy.