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Y-2-Jay

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From Batista's twitter account

"i'm the biggest wrestling fan there is..which is why i'm boycotting the PG bs! they're selling watered down art bro.kills me"

And

"i'd like to go back for sure. just not any time soon. i'm gonna wait this PG thing out"


So Batista is really not a fan of the PG direction WWE has taken and it makes me think is there any of the other WWE wrestlers who hate the PG direction but are scared to say something so they don't get any backlash from McMahon (Which i don't blame them for) and also what do you think of Batista's opinion? Do you agree with him or do you disagree? and also would you like a Batista return?
 
The only possible problem I can see with the PG rating is that they still use a lot of the attitude era\TV14 creations (like Hell in a Cell, Elimination chamber, the role of the GM, WWE divas, etc).

But other than that, I don't see what's wrong with it. The WWE was always PG up until the attitude era, and was still rated TVPG for much of the late 90s.
 
Haha, nice job by Dave. I hope this is the start of the PG rating being questioned and maybe we see a change. The product is so stale right now, Cena specially needs a refreshing change with his character.
 
Wrestling is lame now.. but its staying this way for the time being..

and to me, If batista was a huge fan or wrasslin like he says he is, then he would sit through the crap like the rest of us.
 
This is the best argument for keeping PG that I've heard. He wasn't called Botchtista for no reason, let him stay in MMA where hurting people is a good thing.

he was never in mma....he was in "talks" with strikeforce but when zuffa(ufc parent company) bought out strikeforce they made a policy of no freak-show/amaeutr fights... this closed all channels to batista joining as he has no formal background in mma(meaning.... compared to lesnar and lashley who have near 3 decades of wrestling to their background).... hes only trained briefly in mma.... hes secured more acting roles than anything he'll ever accomplish in mma.....

on topic.... maybe MAYBE if batista was smart enough he could talk vince into letting him have his special role...similar to the rock and austin( the rock and austin are way and above batista in terms of making succesful demands) ... the rock/austin were100 percent against working in wwe while the pg era was ongoing...but due to vince needing there star power vince gave in and let them keep their characters the way we remember them......atleast batista could hold talks with vince to see if he'll be able to do the same...but as said above u cant really give the success rate of vince giving in based on rockand austin as they were much bigger than batista.
 
I work in the corporate insurance world, I can smell Grade A manure from two villages south. In the clerical profession we call this "lip service", aka a LIE!

Its good PR nothing else; wrestling is a paycheck to Batista, nothing else.
 
Who gives a shit whether it is a pg rating or not? It is still entertaining! Why the fuck does everyone care about the damn rating? Batista was not all that great of wrestler, please stay out of the WWE.
 
I'm so sick of the bitching over "PG". If Batista isn't gonna watch the product until the PG Rating is done with, I'm guessing he never watched the WWE until the Attitude Era.

He probably never watched WCW, either.

This is just stupid. Just stay away, Dave.
 
I think he means this today. However, let's say 8 months or so go by and there's an injury in WWE and the build for Mania is on. Taker's opponent goes down and there's no one there to replace him. If Vince were to call up Big Dave and say "I'll give you 500 grand to work Mania and five Raws around it", I think Batista might be willing to end his boycott. Batista is viewed as a big star still and there are people out there that will pay to watch him. Money could talk I think, and there's a chance this is a ploy to drive up his price. Then again he may just be running his mouth off. Still though, I think PG will still be going when Batista is back, whicH I can't imagine won't happen someday.
 
Batista is a well known self promoter and general, all around gas bag. I don't think Batista's problem is really the PG rating. Even though WWE "officially" went PG in 2008, it's been considerably less raunchy really since the mid 2000s. It's hard for me to take Batista's anti-PG stance seriously because Batista became one of the biggest stars in wrestling during this decidedly less raunchy and more family friendly period in WWE history. He's a multi-time World Champion, he's feuded with the biggest names in the WWE and Batista was making money hand over fist during this time frame. I read that he was paid $500,000 back in 2007 for his WrestleMania match against The Undertaker. From about 2005-2010, Batista was definitely someone that benefitted from the direction the WWE decided to go.

I might be wrong here but I have a feeling that one thing Batista didn't like is the fact that the WWE decided to start elevating younger stars into high profile spots within the company. I think it's possible that Batista's spot was in danger and was a little pissed off about it. Another theory I have is that, in the end, it all comes down to money. I wouldn't be at all surprised if Batista wanted more money to stay with WWE, WWE didn't wanna give it to him, so he left. We've all read about how Batista loves to live the high life, spends money like it's goin' out of style, etc.

The WWE has gotten along just fine without him, In my opinion, it's become a better product without him. Wrestlers that are much more talented both inside the ring and on the mic have been pushed into spots that they might not otherwise have been put into had Batista stayed with WWE.
 
urgh... im SO sick of hearing about the damn 'attitude era' yes i watched the attitude era and yes i did enjoy it. it was entertaining at the time, but the wrestling wasnt great which is why wcw were able to compete. there are much better wrestlers in todays product than 10-15 years ago. the only thing that bugs me is language, its cringing to see wrestlers have a go at each other without a little swearing in there, just makes heated feuds more believable. but, they have been creepin in a few words here and there. anywa...OT: i didnt really care much for batista, but i really enjoyed his last run as a heel with the entrance spotlight and constant moaning at cena lol. if he aint coming back till the PG era goes away, then i guess we'll never see him. besides, he's gettin old now and there's plenty of big guys around
 
Yawn... Does anyone actually care about Batista anymore? The only things he had going for him were his size. I was never a fan. In fact, I often changed the channel when he came on. He was your generic big man. I don't mind the PG era. Wrestling is always changing and the fact that there are still people bitching about the product wanting to regress where it used to be when kayfabe wasn't in the average wrestling fan's vocab and the ratings were higher because MMA wasn't such a huge spectacle as it now is getting a bit old. Let's face some facts here everyone: Things such as wrestling CHANGE. It's inevitable. WWE is a business, not a sports team. They are in the business to make money, please the majority of the fans and expand into an even greater worldwide brand. The days of cursing during every promo, blading and giving a guy the chance to go unscripted are over.
 
Im with the majority here as in I am so sick of people bitching & moaning about what TV Rating the WWE has today. Does nobody today remember WWE being PG in the late 80's to early 90's before the Attitude Era kicked in? I guess not otherwise we wouldn't be hearing people wanting it back in some form or fashion. Im betting Batista will change his tone in Vince calls him to work Wrestlemania in the near future.
 
The WWE was basically PG back in the 80's and early 90's so I fail to see the difference now. If Batista hates it so much let a wrestler bash him in the skull 50 times with a steel chair and cut him open over and over and we'll see if he still loves a more.

Many wrestlers love the PG wrestling from Chris Jericho to Bret Hart. Both have mentioned it in the past. I don't care about the blood and shots to the head. I just like to be entertained and the PG WWE does it just fine for me.
 
Batista has a look and that's about it. If the opponents he faced didn't bring the entertainment to their feud, he wouldn't be half the big deal fans make him out to be. He had a few moves, sucked ass on the mike.

Now as far as he arguement is concerned about WWE being PG, he has a right to his preference. WWE was a PG rated company before the Attitude era and they did a great deal business during the Hogan era. I'm not mad about the PG rating, I just think the product in terms of feuds and storylines is less than entertaining.
 
The thing people have to understand is that Batista isn't young. The man turned 42 in January. If Batista is serious about boycotting wrestling until the PG era is over, there might not be much left he can do. Id imagine that some of what Big Dave is saying is to keep himelf out there and in the minds of wrestling fans, so that he stays relevant. My guess is that all it would take for Batista to return would be a nice payday and a schedule to his liking. There's no doubting that Batista could return tomorrow and still be considered a major star, and an instant main eventer upon return.

I dont agree or disagree with Dave, I have no inside knowledge as to what Batista's major issues are with the PG era. Im curious to see if he spells it out, and I hope he does. Does he have a problem with the quality of wrestling, or does he want an edgier product? I don't think we'll see the end of the "PG Era" anytime soon, and if Batista is truly principled against the current product, don't expect him back. But if the opportunity arises and the money is right, Id expect Batista to "drop" his boycott of the era in order to cash in. And there's nothing wrong with that. But its hard to take the man seriously when he is well known for being a whiner, and left the company because younger stars were being elevated and groomed to eventually take his place.

The problem I see here is theres no argument for "absence makes the heart grow fonder." Fans clamor for the return of Chris Jericho, and for CM Punk to stay. I don't see the threads arguing for a Batista return, nor does one hear chants clamoring for him. He's a great self-promotor, for sure, but its sad that we only discuss the man because hes upset about the current product. I see the product as being better without him, as other, younger stars with more overall talent then Batista have been elevated in his absence. A Batista return could very much hinder that, as I couldnt imagine him anywhere but near the main event if he does return, at age 42. The product is going to be PG for a long time, is getting along fine without him, and honestly, is more enjoyable without him. Keep your word here Batista.
 
Batista has always been a strong willed, outspoken person when it comes to wrestling. I can see why hes made the decision hes made as far as the PG thing and can only offer my respect to him. A lot of people are upset over a lot of things in the WWE, not just the PG rating, but very few have the courage to speak out about it. If you love the business then you have to stick up for the BUSINESS, not one specific company in the business, no matter how big or how much money they have. Batista has every right to feel this way and if people from within the WWE begin to speak just like he is speaking then maybe we can regain the entertainment that we love and not what makes more money.
 
fuck the PG shit, its the chairshots to the head, no blood no swearing that kills it... it doesnt have to be extreme like TNA but wwe is like a nazi new world ordered run business now. where u get fired for choking someone with a cord or get in trouble for tweeting ****** hahaha....


The Daniel Bryan firing was worked very well and WWE had nothnig else to do but to get rid of him for a little bit to let it cool over. Getting in trouble for saying "******" makes sense becuase WWE is not that kind of company to say stuff like that and also with WWE endorsing GLAAD, I think it made WWE look bad and was a bad mistake by Cole, but he didn't get fired, so he really wasn't "in trouble."

The banning chair shot's to the head and blading is not only making WWE look like a cohesive and caring company, but it also good for the performer's. Chair shot's to the head can cause concussion's and could be a factor in a wrestler's illness or death. Blading doesn't make or break a match not matter how what kind of match be it Hell in the Cell, or TLC match, no matter how much someone tell's you, blood in a match is not very important. IMO, I think it'll make a return if WWE feel's it's right to do so.

You mentioned swearing, well if you've watched the last few month's on WWE product you'll noticed their swearing the most they've been since 2008. Word's like "hell" 'bitch" and "damn" have been very prominate lately on WWE television.
 
i cant blame batista for not liking the pg shit and not wanting to come back i really cant but as far as current superstars not liking it....theres no proof either way about this but the only one i could see having the balls to say anything bashing the wwe is CM Punk! he has done it already in the past via twitter he has done it before and even though hes on the way out the door i could see him bashing wwe anytime he wants to on twitter...he seems like he just speaks his mind and doesnt care about vince firing him for it...matt hardy did the same without techically saying it but then again matt hardy thinks hes the shit on youtube thts the only place hes not afraid to talk shit
 
I also don't see why Wrestling needs to a bloodfest everytime. Hasn't it usual been known as Entertainment? I really don't get why the PG Rating is such a big deal today as opposed to before when WWF/E had the PG Rating. So who cares,these guys still go out there and put on the best performances they can. Just enjoy it and shut up.
 
I can see his point of view to a certain degree. PG does place small restrictions on what character you can display but saying that......WWF was PG during the New Generation and there was some pretty wicked stuff that happened during those times, blood, chair shots etc.

I think people need to let go of the PG era stuff, it is the way it is, Vince aint going to change it, HHH might when he takes the reins whenever that might be. PG doesnt effect the quality of matches, that is just the talent that they have right now and the writers with their lack of overall direction combine that with limited time between PPV to build anything to grab peoples attention.

As for Batista.....he was never that amazing in the ring, he was just a big guy, with the 'look' that was it. I'd prefer it if Bobby Lashley came back because the guy could perform in the squared circle, he was as agile as a cruiserweight and hit like a super heavyweight.
 
The only thing I miss about Batista is his music. I'd get excited when it started, then get over it when he got in the ring. I'm not a Batista fan, and probably never will be. But I agree with what KB said, if Vince needs him for something & is willing to pay, Batista will come back while it's still PG. I don't think wrestling was something he'd wanted to do his whole life, but he had the build and could make good money, so that's what he chose.
 
The only thing I really ever liked about Batista was his entrance. He had an interesting look and he did have a certain amount of charisma, I think this is what got him by as long as it did. Personally, if he came back it's whatever if he went somewhere else or stayed retired it's whatever. Smack Down could probably use him being that they are lacking in the face department. I'm very suprised he hasn't ended up in TNA yet though. Obviously if he hates the product so bad WWE is putting out, all TNA is doing is poorly trying to recreate the "Attitude Era" anyway. He can blade, curse and take all the chair shots to the head he wants in Orlando, and I'm sure they would dig into their purses for him, maybe take some money out of some of the X Division guys paychecks or something. Batista would obviously shoot right to the main event spot on their roster and would probably be one of the faces of their company. I think TNA would make all the sense in the world for him.

As far as the rating, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it is here to stay. The company has more big name sponsors right now than they have ever had, they are taking every step possible to present their company in a clean, professional image and they are trying to go global and get into countries that they have been unable to get into in the past. For instance, many prodominatly Muslim countries edit album covers with women showing too much skin on them, do you really think they are going to let a product where women are wrestling in bra and panties into their country? As far as chair shots to the head and some of the other hardcore stuff, in today's sports world concussions are a major issue and every athletic organization has taken every measure to prevent and educate on the matter. WWE is smart to jump on this as well. Blood I am a little mixed on, I don't think every other match needs blood however, matches like Hell In A Cell and Elimination Chamber are matches I kind of expect a little mainly because I grew up on the NWA bloodbath cage matches, and the bloody Hell In A Cell's when the match first started. I do understand their reason for cutting blood too as a means to protect the superstars so I can't really get mad about it. I liked the Attitude Era too, but it wasn't the golden age of wrestling, it's over it's not coming back get over it and move on. If you want blood, chair shots and skantly clad women TNA is a competitive option in the fact it is a complete opposite from what WWE is putting out.
 
He also said years ago that what the high flyers do wasn't wrestling...but honestly, you always hear about Cena's "5 moves", Batista had a right hand, clothesline, spinebuster and power bomb, and that was it. I don't know what exactly he's planning on doing with that that's outside of PG...
 
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