Ba-Bomb (or admittedly The Game Rage)

[One Punch Doug Crashin]

So what You're saying is that you haven't broken any rules yet..... you 've created an alt.... Yea..... Breaks your argument right there brudda

 

[Larry]

Yeah, with everything except for that pesky alt thing.

And that's your only point of contention. The "alt" is circumstantial. Outside of that, I've done nothing wrong is the point I was making, pointing to the fact that I've got a long just fine and am more than capable of returning to the forums without issue.

You say this and then you post this:

You created an alternate account to "The Game Rage" so you could come back to our forum after we banned you for being a complete and total psychopath who posted his own home address in order to bait someone into showing up at your house and fighting you?

That has been SO blown out of proportion. That guy was talking about traveling hundreds of miles across multiple states to come kick my ass because we got into an argument on the internet, and you're calling ME the psycho?


All I did was call his bluff, it was a bold move, but I knew that guy wasn't going to be doing any of that.

But once again here, lets not ignore how you've presented that situation to look a certain way, to make me look like a psycho, when it was someone else threatening me, and I played along with their little act by saying "Sure thing bub, here's my actual address, let's see how full of shit you really are" and he was full of shit. It was a harmless act, but you try to use to further your case against me.

Last I checked, that's a purpose besides trolling. Not to mention the fact that you're just plain fucking crazy.

No, I'm actually not crazy at all. Sometimes people have drove me crazy in the figurative sense of the expression, but I'm not crazy, and trying to project that image of me does you no justice okay. Because at that point it's either that I am as you say some far out whack job crazy man, and that's what folks are supposed to believe based on.....whatever you can attach to try and make it so, OR it's you exaggerating something that happened YEARS AGO now when some dumb ass was taking shit way too seriously with me on the internet. I wonder what others will conclude, don't you?

Actually, it's still quite new since, presently, this alt account still exists on the forum.

Jesus Christ, doesn't that kind of go without saying? How else would I be speaking to you right now? The Kenny Kingston Psychic Netwrok, LOL. I mean for God sake, you're really stretching it here.

No. Next question.

Woah! Total spoiler, who would have saw that coming.

No, you haven't shown anything except that you understand all of our rules except for the one about alternate accounts. Your definition and the rulebook's definition are different. You keep trying to justify your definition when you're view is dead-wrong. Until you fully understand the meaning of "alternate account", I'm not convinced that you should have any part of the forums.

Look, I DO understand everything you've been telling me about the rules on alternate accounts. I've been merely trying to illustrate to you why I did not think it was when I came back. I know that in the literal sense in it most definitely is an "alt", but there were circumstances around it that I had thought made it more like a NEW account. That's why I kept saying it wasn't really an alt it was a new account. By my understanding when I made it, it WAS simply a new account and I wasn't really breaking any rules, I got a clean slate. I'm sorry if it's come across to you as me trying to "justify my own definition", that's not exactly what I was trying to do. Can you follow my logic there?

Keeping a secret and acting out an unspoken lie is the same thing as lying. If I walked around with a Slyfox suit on, posed as him, but didn't tell anyone I wasn't him, I'd still be lying about my identity. Your "see no evil, hear no evil" justification is shit.

And as I was trying to explain to you earlier, not justifying anything just trying to give you the ability to see things from my perspective in the moment, I was not under the impression it was a lie per-say. From what I gathered it would just keep from causing waves with people should then know I, a previously banned user was back on the forum, and that was the whole purpose of not telling anyone.

The act you're pulling here. You're constantly trying to twist around our rulebook by claiming that your Ba-Bomb account is not an alt. You're writing paragraphs and paragraphs, twisting everything and trying to sucker us into thinking you're reformed and a brand new person. Meanwhile, you're doing all of this from an alternate account.

I'm not pulling an act man, or D-man to address you appropriately, lol.

I know you've been waiting for the big freak out, the big meltdown, you've been waiting for The Roid Rage to come out. It's just not going to happen. Like I told you, that's NOT me anymore. I wish you would believe me, but I can't force you to. I wasn't trying to twist the rule book, at least not by any conscious motivation, and I'm most certainly not trying to sucker anyone. I'm not trying to make fools of you, I'm just trying to make it clear, and show you and explain to you, things ARE different with me now, I wasn't consciously trying to mischievously create an alt to trick you, I was being myself the whole time. I didn't say I was a perfect angel or that I am this shining example, but I did try to note that I haven't been in any significant trouble, and based on my actions I have learned a thing or two about how to get along on here.

And again, you bring up how "Meanwhile I'm doing all of this from an alternate account". Well dude, unless I somehow master telepathy in the next couple minutes that's the only device I am currently afforded to do so. Kind of a hazard of circumstance.

If it was so noble of you to mention said moderator then you should have no problem revealing their identity.

T*****. I think you can figure it out. There, are you happy now?

I never had a problem with you. Even when you went apeshit and got banned the first time, I was thoroughly entertained.

Well that's really good to know, and thank you for that, I appreciate it. No bullshit, that's a real load off my mind because I at least feel like I have to worry about you acting out of spite against me. It's sure seemed like you did, and if you could see it from my perspective maybe you'd understand why.

But when you insult my intelligence by trying to redefine the rules that I enforce on this forum everyday to cater to your charade and try to tell all of us how to do our jobs, I don't take that too well.

Okay, good, now we're getting somewhere. I'm trying to help you understand me, and this helps me understand you. I totally get that and I'm sorry if that's the way I've come across. I'm not trying to tell you how to do your jobs. If that's the way it came across I apologize, I did not mean to offend anyone. I'm not trying to insult your intelligence or redefine the rules, and I'm sorry if I came across as try to do just that as well and apologize for that too, I did not mean to offend anyone. I'd like for you to understand that I am not putting on any charade.

Stop sitting in your chair, trying to profess your honesty to everyone. Anyone whose back is forced against a wall will admit to dishonesty. We called you out and you admitted it. The only "honesty" you showed is that you can tell the truth once you've been proven guilty.

Well, I did give the full unmitigated truth, and I could have just as easily denied everything and made something up.

Wait a minute... so this is Tasty's "stamp of approval"?

I wasn't saying it was but it does give credence to what I told you, that I had been in contact with a member of the forum regarding my status. I had just for got that whole ordeal with Tastycles, but he came and told everyone of that correspondence between us, which prompted my memories of that to the surface and actually backed up what I said 2 fold.

Looks to me like he was being kind and trying to tell you not to create an alternate account but you did, anyway.

And at that time he was. It was later that I spoke to someone else and got the impression it was okay to return.

Clearly you learned nothing from your past membership on our forums. Stupid people get mocked, embarrassed, and tortured when placed in the Prison. I don't think that makes us sick. I think it makes us entertaining.

Oh no, I learned plenty. It's just a difference of opinion that's all. Just, if it was me the fact that the person was relegated to the prison alone would be enough. But, of course that's me, someone with no power in that situation and it's a personal stance.

 

[Larry]

So what You're saying is that you haven't broken any rules yet..... you 've created an alt.... Yea..... Breaks your argument right there brudda

No no no no, I realize that on the surface that's the way it appears but that's not exactly what I was trying to say. If you look in the post above I believe I went into detail about it actually.

 

[Larry]

And as I was trying to explain to you earlier, not justifying anything just trying to give you the ability to see things from my perspective in the moment, I was not under the impression it was a lie per-say. From what I gathered it would just keep from causing waves with people should then know I, a previously banned user was back on the forum, and that was the whole purpose of not telling anyone.

Just to add something here, the reason behind that was because I was a high profile, well known user. So the logic was if I came back and said "Guess who's back? It's TGR time" That might cause some controversy. It made perfect sense at the time, certainly nothing devious or misguided.

 

[Larry]

Understand this as well, the situation with my contact. That was the only person at the moment for me to go off of. I wasn't able to come here and ask everyone if it was okay, I had to take someone elses word for it. Now, here I am, like a burger on a George Foreman getting grilled to well done, extra crispy.

 

[klunderbunker]

So it wasn't your fault is what you're saying? Having read the rules over and over again and having been banned from here already, somehow you were stupid enough to believe that you could make an alt and not get in trouble?

 

[Larry]

I just really want to dispel this image, like I formulated some devious plot and set out to make assholes out of everyone with a total disregard for the rules. Not the case by a long shot.

 

[hatehabsforever]

Out of curiosity, TGR, how are you enjoying that other wrestling site? You say things are going well there, so why not just save yourself the aggravation and stay there? No slight intended by saying that, but why grovel to return here if it isn't in the cards, why not just post on the other site?

 

[Larry]

So it wasn't your fault is what you're saying? Having read the rules over and over again and having been banned from here already, somehow you were stupid enough to believe that you could make an alt and not get in trouble?

I wouldn't put it that way. I trusted what someone else in a position of authority told me, and keep in mind that was after someone else had told me that maybe sometime in the future I would be allowed to return. If that was stupid of me to believe after those incidents, than I am guilty. I TOTALLY get where you're coming from saying "having read the rules over and over again....." But you have to understand as well, these were complicated circumstances too. I was cut off from communication to all of you, I was under the impression that with time you guys would willingly allow me back, and then someone laid the impression upon me that it was indeed okay to come back under certain pretenses, namely not announcing that I was who I was for reasons already explained. I swear to God that's the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

 

[D-Man]

I need proof that TDigs said that to you.

 

[Mark Gallows]

I’m more than happy to have a discussion with a mature wrestling fan but you have to admit you have not conducted yourself in the most mature fashion around here. ‘Suck a dick and die’ isn’t mature conversation, and that’s extremely tame compared to a lot of other stuff you’ve posted around here. If you really think most people here are 14 you shouldn’t be mocking them for being virgins and verbally bullying them. I appreciate your effort to play nice with this post but don’t try to make me out to be the bad guy. Some of your explicit posts are still here for people to read and I could undelete the ones that were way over the top if I wanted to. You could be a good poster but you really need to tone it down at times. Don’t think of that as a mod trying to censor you or take away your freedom of speech. Think of it as having a mature conversation as a civilized human being.

As for Heenan, I was always a WWF guy so I didn’t watch much WCW but from what I saw Heenan’s heart was never in that promotion. He’s admitted he didn’t like the way business was conducted around there and felt he wasn’t respected. Eventually he got to the point where he was just showing up for a paycheck and you could tell. He just wasn’t the same guy he was in the WWF.

I can’t really comment much on the nwo since I wasn’t watching WCW consistently but I think the perceived realism was a big part of the success at first. I remember people really thought Hall and Nash were still on Vince’s payroll. By the time fans finally realized it was just an angle the Hogan heel turn came and they were hooked. Zybysko and others constantly selling them as renegades definitely helped but I think after the Hogan heel turn fans kept tuning in just to see who would turn next.

If you want to continue a conversation we can do so elsewhere. This thread is dedicated to exposing Ba-Bomb as Game Rage so carry on everyone.

My last words on the subject since this thread isn't the place but, I think the issues mainly arose due to a clash of culture. Where I'm from it's not uncommon or considered offensive to call someone a "cunt" or use "fuckin'" as a comma. Granted I didn't read the rules and am used to posting on forums where you won't get banned/infactions for that kind of language.

Initially I was expressing myself as I would in real life when I felt as passionatly about a subject as I do about pro-wresting/wwe sucking/etc. I felt the infractions were an over-reaction to me expressing myself in my own way (not saying I still do, I get it now) but at that time I esentially went into "troll mode" just to try and fuck with people. Some of what I said I stand by, most was just done because I was bored and trollin'.

I wasn't trying to "play nice" or make anyone out to be a "bad guy" I'm just tired of all the e-heat, to be honest. Funny thing is, at this point I'd rather post in "the prison", atleast I can run my mouth here and not have to be "PG". I dunno man, I'm not e-begging to "get out" or whatever I'd just rather talk wrestling than sling abuse at people and have it slung at me at this point. So yeah, sorry for the abuse I threw your way on PM and the like, it was nothing personal just me over-reacting to feeling like I was being "censored" I guess.

Anyway, enough said.

 

[klunderbunker]

I wouldn't put it that way. I trusted what someone else in a position of authority told me, and keep in mind that was after someone else had told me that maybe sometime in the future I would be allowed to return. If that was stupid of me to believe after those incidents, than I am guilty. I TOTALLY get where you're coming from saying "having read the rules over and over again....." But you have to understand as well, these were complicated circumstances too. I was cut off from communication to all of you, I was under the impression that with time you guys would willingly allow me back, and then someone laid the impression upon me that it was indeed okay to come back under certain pretenses, namely not announcing that I was who I was for reasons already explained. I swear to God that's the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

No, they're not complicated circumstances. You screwed up and now you're trying to blame anyone but yourself for it. You've lied before, you're lying now, and I don't believe a word you say, nor do I want you on my forums.

 

[Larry]

Out of curiosity, TGR, how are you enjoying that other wrestling site?

You make a good points and I will answer these questions.

I have indeed enjoyed this other site, and while at times they haven't enjoyed me as you can imagine, most of the time they do and I get along well with everyone there for the most part. Of course there will always be people you just don't mesh with, but me and those people tend to just stay out of each others hair. They really try to promote a peaceful environment with as little flaming and trolling as possible. They hold a high standard for the most part about conduct and how people treat other people, staff included. It's a nice place, and I enjoy being there.

You say things are going well there, so why not just save yourself the aggravation and stay there? No slight intended by saying that, but why grovel to return here if it isn't in the cards, why not just post on the other site?

No offense taken, I get where you're coming from.

So why not save myself the aggravation and stay there? Why grovel to return here if it's seemingly not in the cards?

Because even with all the verbal abuse and ridicule people could throw at me, I still believe this is the place to be. I love WZ. It was the first forum of it's kind I joined and I immediately fell in love with it. All the different "characters" so to speak, people's different witty humor, the debate you can have here, the intelligence and quality of posting by WZ's elite, everything, even some of the stuff some might see as bad. It just added to the whole experience.

On one page you can read a deep meaningful discussion with tons of peoples heart-felt thoughts and ideals about important worldly topics, on another you can see two people at each others throats in a battle of wits, on another you can just bullshit and goof off with people, the whole time you get to converse with people from all around the world. Why wouldn't you want to be here? At the end of the day, this IS the biggest and best forum of it's kind of the internet, period. That also makes it the premiere place to showcase your writing, your work, for all to see and enjoy or even take issue with and challenge your thoughts and ideals, forcing you to actually back up your beliefs and stand up for what it is you hold true in your heart. And, on top of all of it, the theme is based on something I love and have been a fan of my entire life, Wrestling, and you can talk about everything under the sun and beyond about it. I just don't think it gets any better than that.

The other sites, they look very nice. They have nice people. They have smart people. But, they don't have a lot of people, at least not a lot of active people, and they certainly don't have people nearly as passionate about wrestling, writing, and the overall purpose of forums like this. This is the place to be, and if you can become someone here, if you can present your ideals in such a way that you can gain the admiration and respect of it's collective, if you make people sit down, read what it is you have to say because you say it well and they take pleasure in reading what it is you write, well then you've done something very special right there.

 

[Larry]

No, they're not complicated circumstances. You screwed up and now you're trying to blame anyone but yourself for it. You've lied before, you're lying now, and I don't believe a word you say, nor do I want you on my forums.

Please. I understand the way it looks, but I can't tell it any other way, that's the way it was. I'm not trying to blame anyone but myself, obviously I'm the one who got myself here and I accept responsibility for that. I'm just trying to show you that I meant no harm, that I wasn't trying to do something wrong, that I didn't think I was due to the circumstances, and that I am telling you the truth.

For you it may not seem like complicated circumstances, but you weren't the one on the outside looking in, just hoping for a way back. I thought that I had finally received my way back. I did screw up, but it wasn't signing up as Ba-Bomb. It was all the shit that happened back when I posted here as The Game Rage. I have been paying, and paying, and paying for that ever since and I fucked something up that actually meant something to me. I took great pride in writing for everyone here, in having debates with people here. It was one thing I felt that I was good at.

Here I am before you, completely at your mercy. Why would I lie now? It wouldn't do me any good. If I lied and I was truly no different, the outcome would be the same and you would be completely correct in your judgment of me anyways. However, I know differently, and call tell you that I am not lying to you. I am not simply trying to distribute blame. I've only tried to lay out every piece of truth for you in hopes that you will see it as such, and hopefully see fit to grant me clemency or something of that nature, and allow me to stay on this forum that I think so highly of.

 

[klunderbunker]

Please. I understand the way it looks, but I can't tell it any other way, that's the way it was. I'm not trying to blame anyone but myself, obviously I'm the one who got myself here and I accept responsibility for that. I'm just trying to show you that I meant no harm, that I wasn't trying to do something wrong, that I didn't think I was due to the circumstances, and that I am telling you the truth.

For you it may not seem like complicated circumstances, but you weren't the one on the outside looking in, just hoping for a way back. I thought that I had finally received my way back. I did screw up, but it wasn't signing up as Ba-Bomb. It was all the shit that happened back when I posted here as The Game Rage. I have been paying, and paying, and paying for that ever since and I fucked something up that actually meant something to me. I took great pride in writing for everyone here, in having debates with people here. It was one thing I felt that I was good at.

Here I am before you, completely at your mercy. Why would I lie now? It wouldn't do me any good. If I lied and I was truly no different, the outcome would be the same and you would be completely correct in your judgment of me anyways. However, I know differently, and call tell you that I am not lying to you. I am not simply trying to distribute blame. I've only tried to lay out every piece of truth for you in hopes that you will see it as such, and hopefully see fit to grant me clemency or something of that nature, and allow me to stay on this forum that I think so highly of.

I didn't read this because I don't care what it says. Someone specific is going to ban you and I'm just waiting on that person to do it.

 

[D-Man]

I don't want a rulebreaker on my forums, either.

 

[Larry]

Please, just let me have a second chance. I won't make you sorry you did. I have not broke any rules to anger you, or even tried to break any rules. That just happened to be what the actions were by their nature. You've kept me around this long, please just let me stay in the prison for some period of time if that will suffice, and I will earn my way back. Just please, don't end thing like this.

 

[Larry]

You say you don't want a rule breaker. Well please then, let me back on as a regular member and you will see that I am not.

 

[Larry]

What do you seriously have to lose? What harm will come of letting little old me stick around? I am the only one with something to lose, and you are about to take it away. Please, don't do that.

 

[Larry]

Why must you be so cold? You don't have to do this and you know it. So why do you insist on doing this to me? You didn't even listen. You just dismissed everything I said, tried to turn every word against me. What makes you think this is right? Please, again I ask you, don't just ban me. At least give me a chance.

 

[klunderbunker]

Please, just let me have a second chance. I won't make you sorry you did. I have not broke any rules to anger you, or even tried to break any rules. That just happened to be what the actions were by their nature. You've kept me around this long, please just let me stay in the prison for some period of time if that will suffice, and I will earn my way back. Just please, don't end thing like this.

Ok, maybe we haven't been blunt enough with you. The other reason we're not letting you back is because you suck. You write these massive word forts that no one in their right mind would read and you say nothing in them. You've spent the majority of your time here explaining why you should be let back in because you couldn't follow the rules in the first place.

In short, you suck as a poster and you're not worth being allowed back.

You say you don't want a rule breaker. Well please then, let me back on as a regular member and you will see that I am not.

Again, why should we let a bad poster come back when 97% of the posters here can follow the rules just fine? Save your time in answering that because I'm not going to read it.

What do you seriously have to lose? What harm will come of letting little old me stick around? I am the only one with something to lose, and you are about to take it away. Please, don't do that.

We would have to scroll past your way too long and not good posts.

Why must you be so cold? You don't have to do this and you know it. So why do you insist on doing this to me? You didn't even listen. You just dismissed everything I said, tried to turn every word against me. What makes you think this is right? Please, again I ask you, don't just ban me. At least give me a chance.

We gave you a chance when you signed up in the first place. You broke the rules, then you broke them AGAIN. You've had your second chance already.

 

[George Steele's Barber]

My wife isn't this chatty.

 

[D-Man]

I <3 KB.

 

[George Steele's Barber]

Homeless heroin addicts aren't this desperate.

 

[George Steele's Barber]

What's with the gay guys' facial hair in the banner?