Signs don't mean anything, and there supposedly being 5-10 every week is as baseless as it gets. Trish did not get deafening pops like the Unforgiven one every week, period.
Signs show that people care about you. They're certainly not meaningless, and when you have numerous people who make signs supporting you, it shows people care. Hence, you're over.
And of course she didn't generate a pop like she did at Unforgiven. It was her last match in her hometown. It would be silly to suggest she did. Which is why I didn't. I said she received steady pops, or heat, each and every week.
I'm not saying she wasn't over, though; she was. But that's a terrible example because that may have been the biggest pop she ever got.
It wasn't my only example. Did you watch the second video I posted, of when she was a heel, and the tremendous
heat she drew? Drawing heat is just as important as drawing pops. Trish did both, consistently.
Should I post the video of when she knocked out Christy Hemme, and drew **** on her back, and the heat she drew as well. She was consistent, over years. Has AJ been? Heck no.
But AJ has the potential to make people care about the women's division again, for the first time in years, and she's already on her way to doing so with this Kaitlyn feud (if they continue to book it correctly, of course).
But, would, could, should. That's not the same as "did", which is what Trish "did" during her tenure.
AJ has wrestled at least two main event tag matches on Raw. She hasn't wrestled a one on one match, but she was also GM of the show at one point, something which no other diva can claim (besides Steph and Vickie who are purely non-wrestling characters).
No, she got involved in maybe two or three main events. That's far different from wrestling in them. The only one I can recall is AJ and Dolph vs Vickie and Cena, which was an angle more then a match.
And Trish was too busy winning seven championships to try her hand at GM.
Seven Championships > Failure of a GM reign.
You need to get your facts straight. It was Unforgiven 2006 in Toronto, look it up.
You need to read my posts properly. I was referring to the six person mixed tag match, where the boos were merciless when Orton RKO'd Trish, and Trish was far more over then Orton at the time, who was feuding with friggin Carlito.
Those two weeks when she turned the tables on Mickie were not comparable to AJ's crazy run. Come on now.
I never said it was comparable. I said Trish did multiple gimmicks with different personas, got over, and succeeded with them all. Read correctly next time.
Barking like a dog takes talent now. Alright.
Never said it did. Did you read the part where I mentioned Vince's name twice. Twice? She was put in as Vince's lover and eventually turned on Vince in a huge angle. The boss, the top heel of all time, and Trish was chosen to be the Diva to be his lover then turn on him.
And that was before she won her 7 championships.
She has the longest women's reign in recent history (not all time, again, get your facts straight) because she sat out injured through four months of it. And when she came back, the top heel was Torrie Wilson.
Again, you have it wrong. Her reign was because the company believed in her as their top Diva/Woman. And yes, I made a boo-boo, a typo. She's got the most Women's reign in history. And the longest of the
modern era.
What's AJ done that's been so "over" such as that.
And I like how she's being "phased out" by being the manager of the World Champion until last night, and now being the Divas Champion.
She got a kiss from Dolph, Dolph wrestled, won or lost, and left. Again, amazing in comparison to being involved in an angle every week or wrestling.
AJ's turn was based on the fact that Cena acted like he wanted her and then decided he didn't, and she felt betrayed by that. Whether you think it had "validity" or not, it had a reason behind it, just as Trish's did.
AJ's turn was based on the belief that Cena wanted her. He kissed her to prove a point to Vickie, which obviously, in kayfabe, went over AJ's head.
How does that compare to a legitimate
Wrestlemania angle where Trish turned because she
remembered the bet Jericho made that he could sleep with her?
I agree, so again I ask, why did she save Ashley when she supposedly hated divas stealing her spotlight?
You're right, superstars NEVER return with changes of heart. Ever.
You just sound like a Trish mark now.
I'm not, mostly because I don't like Trish Stratus the human being, who's an incredible mark for herself.
Because it's generally clear to most that she was not the best female wrestler of all time.
I'm not clear as to who 'most' is. Some of the 25 people who posted in this thread, a small minority of wrestling fans all over the world?
Best all around diva is more arguable once you factor in the mic skills and charisma, which she had in spades. But you're also seriously shortchanging AJ and what she's accomplished here.
Isn't that what we're arguing? Who the most over Diva was of all-time? Don't mic skills, charisma, wrestling ability, ability to draw heat/pops, and crowd interest matter?
When we're talking over, and you would mention Trish Stratus or AJ, who do you think most wrestling fans would find more 'over?' Hell, who do you think more would know?
Trish, in a landslide, on both counts. I'm done here.
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