Assholes n' Eights?

[Raven]

wow theres not a thread of this already? Been holding off on it for a few days, was think maybe IDR would make it. Anyway as we saw on impact Aces n' Eights have a new, member? sponsor? friend?..anyway associate to some degree, the asshole himself, Mr. Anderson! Kind of weird if you ask me, I mean Anderson eevn said it himself about he last time those two met, but TNA has a knack for just forgetting stuff like that. but i'm OK with that! Devon told the VP that they should patch in Anderson so he would feel like one of them, first off is this good or bad? I think its good A&8 really needed "star power" a big name that is a legit threat and could win matches without interference. Anderson really looks lie he could be a member of a biker gang too, he has the redneck thing going on, the beard, the brawler side, good fit IMO.

So what do you guys think of this? Good? Bad? Full member? Associate?

 

[SteelX]

We don't really know if he has joined them or not. He could of just had sex with the chicks and then turn down the offer of joining A&8s. He is a asshole after all. My guess is we will find out next week if he has joined them or not.

 

[It's Damn Real!]

This is one of those potential moves that on paper seems right, but I'm just not sure is all that great for the actual stable themselves. The fact they're having to recruit outside the "gang" says the gang themselves are weak (because they are), despite the fact it says they're bolstering the ranks.

I'm also not really that sold on the idea of Mr. Anderson, the biker gang guy, same as I was never sold on Mr. Anderson, Immortal stable member. To me, he's not a stable guy at all. Same as guys like Curt Hennig never belonged in the nWo. They're simply too strong of personalities/performers on their own to require the use of, or be all that useful in stables.

My guess is he'll accept the invite, simply because it's a way to get him back on television, but I doubt I'm gonna be all that into it.

 

[NotoriousMEAT]

I think he foils Sting's revenge plans this Thursday. They'll probably tease that he's turned down their offer, but I picture a situation similar to when Kurt Angle defected to The Alliance. Chaos in the ring, back up floods down for each side, then in the middle of it all is Anderson stabbing TNA in the back with a shot to Sting or whoever. This turns the fight in favor of the Aces & Eights, and maybe they take someone else out in the process. Could even happen during the cage match, which would be would be the perfect setting. If Wes and Garrett turn as well, I could see Angle being the victim and maybe sitting out til Lockdown. A big Team TNA vs Aces & Eights Lethal Lockdown is pretty much a lock for San Antonio.

 

[Brother Love]

It's a bad thing as the whole Aces n' Eights thing is getting old. A n E good idea when it first started, but after all this time of being drawn out with no real end in sight (can you say NWO) I think it only hurts Anderson. People are starting to lose interest in this storyline and many were expecting some new faces to come out of this, not for TNA to recycle their own roster through it because they don't know what else to do with them. Guys like Luke Gallows or Mike Knox were not big stars in WWE, but they would be fresh faces that would make sense in this whole thing. Anderson (and Devon for that matter) don't belong in this group. They just water down the group dispite their name recognition and neither being in the group makes sense to me. You are correct that the group does need some names in it but if you are going to have some names, they should be someone from outside the current TNA roster.

I really hope he plays the Asshole role in this and stays out of the group, maybe burn down their clubhouse, trash a few bikes, anything but joining.

IMO, if you want to add someone from the current roster that could work with this group, I think The Pope or Gunner would make more sense as would Wes Brisco since he's new. Christian York would have made a good choice if they didn't use him for gut check or didn't give him a contract and had him come in through Aces n Eights. York, Gallows, Knox, Gunner & Pope as the mouth piece (not president) would make a nice group, but if they contiune on the pace they're going the future of Aces n Eights seems bleak. That's just one mans opinion.

 

[hatehabsforever]

How better to take a faction that's been floundering in a storyline that's dragged on way to long, and really tie an anchor around its neck, than to add Ken Anderson...Anderson. First Devon Dudley. Then Luke Gallows/Festus. Rumors of Garrett Bischoff and/or Wes Brisco. Now Ken Anderson? Safe to say, the Aces and Eights faction is destined to the same fate as they or Claire Lynch.

May as well just add the Pope and Brooke Hogan, and be done with it.

 

[Spinebreaker]

On the one hand I approve heartily of ANYTHING that get's Anderson back on my screen. He's a good old fashioned 90's throwback, and I for one, enjoy every time he's in the ring.

But, Anderson's like Iron Man, he doesn't mix well with others... Anderson came into TNA as a heel, and through being entertaining, funny and being able to wrestle, he fairly naturally evolved into a face. They tried to make him part of immortal and it didn't work.

Anderson's best position, is solo, and an asshole that everybody likes, not as part of a heel stable.

 

[RickRaspberry]

I think it would be a huge success to completely revamp Mr. Kennedy. His character is in all honesty, been stale for a while. Give him a whole new gimmick. Make him the same sarcastic asshole...but make him a biker/badass type. I could see the gimmick itself getting over huge. Have him wear jeans and leathers...grow his bear out...it would be a great way to freshen him up.

 

[Denny Crane]

I like the addition of Anderson into the group. It gives the group a little charge but I think it's going to only prolong the exposure the true leaders of the group.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

I don't think Anderson will particularly add much to Aces & Eights if he winds up joining. It's not just that I've long since become disinterested in the group but Anderson just doesn't seem like someone that'll fit in. Though, to be fair, I wasn't all that thrilled about this angle anyhow as it's just the same old power struggle storyline that TNA has made its bread & butter for years. I suppose there is a real difference this time: the invading faction is about as weak as a litter of newborn kittens unless there are half a dozen of them attacking from behind

If TNA had consistently booked Aces & Eights to look strong throughout the roughly 3/4's of a year they've existed, then adding Anderson might be something that struck me as interesting. It would look as though the faction is growing more powerful as they're going out and "recruiting" stars that've been on the roster for years in order to expand their power base. That's not what's happened, however. Now, to me, it only seems to make the group look even weaker than they have been. The guys that make up their group can't get it done when it counts inside the ring, as a result they no longer seem like a dangerous invading group. Bringing Anderson in almost makes it seem like that, kayfabe, Aces & Eights knows how weak they are.

I expect Anderson will probably accept A&E's offer simply for the fact that it'll be a means of putting Anderson back on television. It could also draw out more time as to who the big bosses of Aces & Eights are. I doubt many people care though as this entire angle has deteriorated into mess.

 

[SaveUsCMPunk]

Mr. Anderson is probably my favorite wrestler in Impact Wrestling, so you can imagine I'm delighted to see him back on television after what....close to two months? I would love to see him as a heel and involved in some big program. Didn't he say he wanted to quit wrestling by 2016? I hope we see more of him from now until then.

If you think about it, Anderson could have a reason for aligning himself with Aces n' Eights. Yeah, they did attack him, but Sting did sort of toss him aside rather quickly for Bully Ray to team up with him. Anderson could say he wasn't hurt that badly and could've wrestled at BFG. Have him say he didn't feel appreciated by Sting and Hogan so he aligned himself with his new family in Aces n' Eights. Imagine a program with Anderson and Bully Ray. (With the heel/face roles reversed.) I think it could provide some interesting television with their past history as well as Anderson and Hulk Hogan's past interactions. Have Mr. Anderson give Brooke the mic check. It's been a long time since we've seen male to female violence in pro wrestling. (That could end up making him face though.)

 

[3drinks]

Mr. Anderson is probably my favorite wrestler in Impact Wrestling, so you can imagine I'm delighted to see him back on television after what....close to two months? I would love to see him as a heel and involved in some big program. Didn't he say he wanted to quit wrestling by 2016? I hope we see more of him from now until then.

If you think about it, Anderson could have a reason for aligning himself with Aces n' Eights. Yeah, they did attack him, but Sting did sort of toss him aside rather quickly for Bully Ray to team up with him. Anderson could say he wasn't hurt that badly and could've wrestled at BFG. Have him say he didn't feel appreciated by Sting and Hogan so he aligned himself with his new family in Aces n' Eights. Imagine a program with Anderson and Bully Ray. (With the heel/face roles reversed.) I think it could provide some interesting television with their past history as well as Anderson and Hulk Hogan's past interactions. Have Mr. Anderson give Brooke the mic check. It's been a long time since we've seen male to female violence in pro wrestling. (That could end up making him face though.)

You won't see any man-on-woman violence in TNA because SpikeTV won't allow it.

Anyway back on topic, I am interested in the Anderson thing as it seemed kind of random to be talking to a guy who hasn't been seen since BFG, and even then, only seen sporadically anyway. But like most people, Aces n' Eights just has not been done effectively. When your "big" reveals are Devon Dudley and Luke Gallows...this leaves something to seriously be desired. This really does pain me to admit as I like TNA a lot, and want them to succeed...but this is not how to do it.

Shit, hire me TNA as your head writer, and I will put your company back on track. I will single-handedly write some bomb-ass stories and elevate this company from those 1.0s they always seem to pull. This is just one fan's opinions.

 

[d_henderson1810]

This is one of those potential moves that on paper seems right, but I'm just not sure is all that great for the actual stable themselves. The fact they're having to recruit outside the "gang" says the gang themselves are weak (because they are), despite the fact it says they're bolstering the ranks.

I'm also not really that sold on the idea of Mr. Anderson, the biker gang guy, same as I was never sold on Mr. Anderson, Immortal stable member. To me, he's not a stable guy at all. Same as guys like Curt Hennig never belonged in the nWo. They're simply too strong of personalities/performers on their own to require the use of, or be all that useful in stables.

My guess is he'll accept the invite, simply because it's a way to get him back on television, but I doubt I'm gonna be all that into it.

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I would have preferred if Mr Anderson had been revealed as a member by someone pulling off the mask of an A & 8 member and it be Anderson!

This wouldn't have weakened the group and it would have added a legitimate bad-ass to Aces & 8's.

The great thing about Aces & 8's is that we don't know how many members there actually are, so you can add people under masks anytime you want. The regular ones you show on TV may just be the frontline members, but they could tease that half the roster are in Aces & Eights if they wanted to.

 

[Fire Marshall Bill]

Call this fantasy booking if you want, but this is how I hope it would go down (or somewhat): Anderson took those two women, because hey, they were given to him. It's a free lunch. This coming week he tells A&8's to go to hell. Yeah, he took the women, but he's an asshole. This would pit him and Sting against A&8's. Then Angle, Bischoff and Brisco come out and back them up. It seems like TNA has the upper hand until Bischoff and Brisco turn on them eventually (Genesis?). Yes, it's not really a big deal for them to turn, but now it sets your pieces on the board. Anderson, Angle and Sting vs. the entire A&8's faction. And say what you want about a face/tweener Anderson, but he gets that crowd behind him. These are the official lines drawn in the feud. It either ends with these pieces, or A&8's grows a frickin backbone and we see something real from them.

Now, what will most likely happen is Anderson will join A&8's making absolutely no sense, and no real direction for his character because TNA has completely mishandled him. This will in turn make A&8's look even less powerful because instead of revealing some big name of their own, they actually had to recruit someone from TNA.

I would have preferred if Mr Anderson had been revealed as a member by someone pulling off the mask of an A & 8 member and it be Anderson!

And this. This makes much more sense than him joining willingly after being beat down by them before BFG. At least this way they could say they "pretend" beat him up as a swerve.

 

[Spinebreaker]

When Devon was talking last week about someone who was pissed off enough to help them, my immediate thought was AJ Styles...

May have made more sense than Anderson, I like your thoughts there Sweep...

 

[GameOver]

sorry at this point who cares.
A&8's has gone nowhere other then revealing D'von which was a shock i guess and Festus which was not. What have they done? beat people up supposedly having free reign yet they are still being controled by Hogan

I'm so bored with this now. Mr Anderson was stale so maybe this will inject some life into him but i doubt it. Least it answered one thing i had been querying or ages "where was Mr Anderson" now i know i can sleep better LOL

I can see him being convinced to join then in a reverse Angle like ploy (serca WCW invasion of WWE angle) he takes down the Aces and 8's from within. and then for no reason he'll turn heel.

oh wait he already has a reason, same reason D'von did, noone gives a shit about him storywise

 

[KingShaw3]

I don't think Anderson will join A&8s. I think he just took the women because he wanted the women, but also because he knew if he told them no he'd get beaten down. So, he took the women and will tell A&8s to kiss ass next week.

However, A&8s have just been a terrible disappointment in my opinion. They have been booked horribly from a business standpoint I feel. I mean just this week a masked member, who is most likely Mike Knox, was beaten pretty soundly by Samoa Joe and nearly unmasked before the gang came out and chased Joe off. Seeing that guy get beat down kind of makes people lose interest. Why would I care who he is, if he's getting destroyed by Joe? Not to say Joe wouldn't destroy top level guys, but still. If they are not supposed to be that great individually to really push the whole 'gang' thing, then why include a story line where they can't even get things done with the gang and need to look outside it for help from guys like Anderson? Not to even get into the fact that there are seemingly no big names left to unmask in the gang. One is Mike Knox. Wes Brisco and Garrett Bischoff are two more. I think the VP may be Scott Hall, at best, but probably not. And the leader is either Jarrett or Eric Bischoff. I don't know, I hope TNA has something up their sleeves, because I'm starting to lose all hope in this stable being a big time upper card threat.

 

[Zeven_Zion]

Keep him off TV? Like, please? Pretty please?

I'd pay money to NOT have this dude a part of anything. Alright, I probably won't pay jack shit but you get my point.

My viewer-asshole relationship with Mr.Anderson can be described as the fuckiest rollercoaster ride ever.

I started at the top - I was ex-flipping-cited when he debuted. The music, the intro, the attitude, I ate that thing up like JJYanks eats crap tacos every Friday!

However, since then I've realized that Mr.Anderson should rename himself to Mr.Identity Crysis. This dude doesn't seem to be able to figure himself out. He wants to be like Austin, he wants to be like The Rock, he wants to be himself from the indies, he wants to be The Amazing Stutter Man, he wants to be an anus. I mean, COME ON dude! Jesse Sorrensen came up with a gimmick faster than you did and he almost got Stephen Hawking'd!

I swear, at this point Mr.Buttgap is boring and annoying. He's trying too hard, he talks a lot but never SAYS anything, he looks like the last gym he's seen is the one in Pewter City and in general has become a wreck of a wrestler.

I really REALLY doubt he's changed, I doubt he can up his game, therefore I pray to Lucifer he's not involved on TV in any way.

I'd rather watch RAW for a month than endure this guy.






... alright, I overexaggerated there. I'll never watch that bullshit. It sucks.

 

[MoxViolence]

i personally would of rathered him to be unmasked as one of the members. IDR said it makes them look weak to recruit from the outside which is the truth. Why go elsewhere to get the job done? because you cant do it yourself. I've been waiting for some serious unmasking with the A&8's, and anderson would have been a good surprise. now i kinda EXPECT him to screw them over because afterall, he's an asshole.

 

[ヒュー　G.　レックション]

Anderson's best position, is solo, and an asshole that everybody likes, not as part of a heel stable.

For me I'd much prefer he join the stable. Anderson really has bored the shit out of me for a while. This should hopefully repackage him and make him more interesting. I'd like it if he dropped the "Mr." and actually went around in the biker outfit to show he has been fully converted.

I'm probably the only one that thinks this, but I've enjoyed Devon a lot more since he has been in the stable, more than I have in a long time. So hopefully they can do the same with Anderson.

 

[UrUp]

Mr Anderson excels as a solo heel. I don't want to see him as a tweener/baby face at all or with Aces and Eights.

At his best, Mr Anderson is probably a better heel (and draw) then Aries and Bobby Roode and we've only been shown a small glimpse of that. The problem I find though is that TNA doesn't have many great match ups for a star to rise. I thought Austin Aries X Division title reign was possibly the best title reign of 2012, but someone had mentioned that most of it was against no name or throwaway talent.

In WWE, Mr Kennedy was on the rise and had beaten 10 former champions (Undertaker, Batista, Hbk) on his way to winning the title, but in TNA there aren't near as many guys to elevate him or top baby faces for him to get heat from. And when he did get the chance, he was in Immortal and TNA didn't have a long term plan in him remaining heel from the get-go.

I expect Anderson to turn on Aces and Eights and eventually face them at Lockdown, in turn TNA will continue to under utilize an exceptional heel.

 

[MisterRob]

Who cares anymore?

Mr. Anderson could've been a good heel main eventer and a draw for the company years ago, but they've wasted any opportunity for that and booked him poorly to the point he seems like just a lost opportunity that isn't going anywhere anymore. I really don't see anything he does with Aces & Eights changing that. Anderson needs to be a standout on his own, that's the only way his character will be effective and evolve into something meaningful, so him being thrown into this faction storyline won't work in my opinion.

And then you have the Aces & Eights storyline as a whole. Who cares? It's run its course, its dragged on for far too long, and it's lost all momentum and importance now. It's become something to turn the channel on for TNA, and just like Mr. Anderson, has become a lost opportunity.

 

[Cereal Killer]

I don't he should join. Just take advantage of the chicks and turn down their offer. Tht's how Anderson is.
What reason does he have to join? It would be just like Immortal. Getting any random member to join in. They atacked Ken a few months back didn't they? Shouldn't he get his vengence? Plus he's turned from Face to Heel (vice-versa) too many times in his TNA career as well. The fans like him as a face.
Also, looking at the rumoured/current members, he doesn't fit in with the lies of Devon, Wes Brisco, Garrett Bischoff etc. He's better than them, more popular and doesn't have that thing about him to join a biker club.

 

[It's Damn Real!]

Yup. Anderson is in Aces and Eights.

Shame they didn't make more of his decision by... you know... actually showing it, but I guess it's the only thing creative could come up with to finally get him back on television, because bottom line he's far too talented a performer to be sitting in the back.

 

[JJYanks121]

Yup. Anderson is in Aces and Eights.

Shame they didn't make more of his decision by... you know... actually showing it, but I guess it's the only thing creative could come up with to finally get him back on television, because bottom line he's far too talented a performer to be sitting in the back.

Who's to say he hasn't accepted the invite to join but will turn on the group by or at Lockdown? Something tells me that's more likely than just sticking him in the group the way they did. I mean I don't care because I'm not the least bit interested in Anderson or Aces and Eights but it would seem cheap to just have him in there with no fanfare and have no swerve.