Are Kurt Angle, Hulk Hogan & Ric Flair Ruining Their Reputations?

DugoutDan17

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First off I just want to say I have been a massive fan of all three of these guys in there WWE and WCW days respectively but...

Lets start with Kurt Angle who in my opinion is quite possibly the best or one of the best wrestlers I’ve ever seen the feuds this guy had in WWE with the likes of HBK, Lesnar, Austin (to name a few) blew me away but apart of me now feels Kurt has ruined or tarnished his reputation some what with the lies he speaks about UFC, WWE, TNA etc and the twitter rants when I hear he’s been shooting on Punk, HBK, Austin, Orton and then says oh my twitter was hacked come on im just not buying it anymore. I think Kurt has (in my opinion) ruined his reputation somewhat.

Onto Hulk Hogan who was my hero growing up in the 80's and 90's watching Hulk feud with Andre the giant, ted dibiase, randy savage, sgt slaughter the list go's on and on I was a hulkamaniac without doubt but over the last say 8 years I just genuinely don’t really like the guy again just like Kurt I feel he has ruined his reputation in ways by like saying when he joined TNA he wouldn’t wrestle he was there to improve it etc and next minute I turn on TNA (I don’t watch TNA alot if at all tbh) and he’s in the middle of the ring bleeding in a tag team match come on do me a favour. Hulk is just one of them guys who says things and then does the complete opposite like :wtf: I don’t want to see Hogan back in the ring again and I don’t know if he still wrestles on TNA like I say I don’t watch it but I hope for them if they want to get to where they want to get to they don’t need the likes of Hogan wrestling any more when they have people like styles, Joe, RVD, Hardy, Roode etc.

and finally woooooooo the nature boy Ric Flair I love Ric he WAS brilliant, i was there at Wrestlemania 24 when Ric faced HBK and I found myself not really wanting HBK to win but at the same time u just know its time he should have hung it up along time ago. I guess I am somewhat disappointed in Flair for going to TNA to compete I don’t mind him being a manager or anything like that or cutting promos or whatever his job is in TNA but wasn’t it Ric who threw his HOF ring away? Im not 100% sure on that tbh like I say I don’t watch TNA but it’s just makes me see him in a different light just like all these guys.

How do you feel about these guys? Am I being too harsh? I just want to state I still respect these guys for everything they have done etc I still want to see Kurt inducted into the WWE HOF but in my opinion I think they have tarnished there reputation somewhat.
 
1. U dont even watch the product so you shouldnt judge.. TNA is doing wicked things and is out shining WWE in many different ways... In all Honestly the product is way better then WWE.

2. Kurt Angle is still having amazing matches in TNA, and the stars there really make him shine as well..

3. Hulk Hogan knows his place... and the only time aside from the one time u mentioned him being in the ring is when he faced sting .. which is fine by me and in england and only cause the fans wanted him in the ring... Hogan is not stupid and he knows his place now adays... And if WWE had the Balls and money to give this man i am sure he would of stayed there... He is helping TNA weather or not people want to believe it...

4. Ric Flair has taken on more of a Bobby Hennan role now in TNA and is doing what he can... I have no issues with his current statues in TNA... But u have stated u only watched it in the begining like 2 years ago... The product has seriously cahnged since then and if u dont watch then u shouldnt judge...

Also If Ric Flair Needs to work .. then who r we 2 judge... If any man has given there lives for this bussniess and needs to work.. then at least TNA stepped up and is helping them.. What did WWE do asides from give them a ring and say see u later we dont need u in the wrestling ring.. we understand u r Broke but good luck... If rIc Flair wants to work then let him work.... Like I said TNA offered them somthing..... What did WWE Do???
 
Okay...and now from an outside view who watches both TNA and WWE.

Kurt Angle
Yes. In one word. Mainly because of twitter and him "posting stuff" then "denying it" and saying "My twitter was hacked". He has to constantly apologise and lets not forget why he was ousted from WWE to begin. The borderlines were quit or be fired, he was doing damage to himself with prescription drugs to the point where he was in the end likely to damage himself or someone else. I dont believe a word that comes out of his mouth, his credibility is shot. Doesnt matter how good you are as a wrestler, you have to have the attitude with it and Angle believes his own shit doesnt stink.

Hogan
Nah. Not ruined. Not with me anyway. See, Im a late 90's wrestling kid, nothing more. Hogan was already old and past it by the time I was interested. You know what? I never really thought much of him and yes, it was big for TNA...it was something that HELPED put TNA on the map while keeping Hogan relevant. He's not ruined his reputation, "Hogan knows best" did that.

Ric Flair
I feel Flair has shot himself in the foot with his jumping ship. I get he needs to work but he was retired and would have still earned on a legends contract which he'd of happily been offered. Instead, he "retires" after one of the best send offs in history, jumps to TNA and is there after 30 days where he pretty much...just continues to degrade within his own work that he WAS great at. Poster above --> Usually 4-6 months after a "retirement", WWE will offer a high paying legends contract. It keeps the wrestlers AWAY from going to other companies with a high salary in exchange for OCCASIONAL promos in right -- IE Shawn Michaels (not legends contract though, he's an ambassador. Foley is a better example right now.) The Legends contract doesnt necessarily stop the wrestler from going to lesser companies and working but it is done to discourage it as WWE CAN pull the plug on the contract at any time (From what Ive seen with Nash). WWE Will have offered Flair a legends contract WAY before his retirement to encourage him to stay with the E, perhaps have him work in a managerial fashion.

Flair hasnt ruined his rep as much as he's burned ANY bridges he has to all his former friends within WWE. He's pretty much sullied any opportunity of getting in with the E again even in a legends capacity.
 
Hogan: As a man, his reputation was ruined when he started that Hogan Knows Best shit. Then cap it off with his family and domestic issues. Professionally, it was ruined when he didn't call it quits 10 years ago.

Flair: Please. Just go away. This tired old man and rapidly aging adolescent should be in a rubber room somewhere. Your reputation and value went south 10 years ago as well.

Angle: He needs to shut the fuck up, go back to "E", and help give the new guys a much needed rub. Reputation not necessarily ruined...............but rapidly approaching.
 
Kurt Angle

Kurt Angle has not ruined his reputation by wrestling in TNA at all, he has had many great matches since joining TNA and has done more than pretty much anyone to get them to where they are today. He was the first MEGA star to sign with the company and it sent shockwaves through the wrestling world when Kurt appeared on TNA after leaving WWE.

He wanted to keep wrestling, and WWE released him for health reasons. He seems to have avoided any serious injuries while being in TNA and the lighter schedule is alot better for him. I don't think him being a part of the organisation has hurt his status at all, and it has allowed us to see alot more Kurt Angle matches.

It is his stupid rants on Twitter that are hurting his reputation. Kurt needs to get off Twitter so he doesnt keep having to claim that his Twitter was hacked and embarassing himself. End of.

Hulk Hogan

I don't think Hogan has contributed anything of note since being in TNA. A rare Hulk Hogan appearance in WWE would always blow the roof off any arena, but his aura is definitely less since being in TNA. It seems alot of people just don't care about Hogan as much any more. He has been outdated for many years now, and should probably just be an ambassador for the company or preferably go back to WWE and do promotional work or the occasional on screen appearance.

Ric Flair

Flair received the perfect send off at WM against Shawn Michaels. He went out on top and that was what he deserved. There was no reason for him to ever step foot in the ring again. At his age he shouldn't be wrestling, his matches are boring, slow, and he is nowhere near the performer he was even 10 years ago when he was still well past his prime. He is hard to understand in promos now, bleeds in almost every match, promo or time he is on TV and it just seems that he cannot give up being "Naitch".

Flair should stick to being a manager, an on screen authority figure or just go back to WWE on a legends deal and mentor some guys backstage. His in-ring career should have been over after HBK "ended his career". It is sad to see him still try to wrestle, he looks awful these days.
 
Kurt angle is still kurt angle. Nuff said.

Much respect to hogan & flair & everything they have done. They are now shells of themselves, old as fuck, broke, & irrelevant. They havent done anything to help change or revolutionize the business in atleast 10 years & there roughly 12-15 years out of their prime.

Am I wrong?

Btw save your $
 
No Neither Kurt Angle nor Ric Flair and Hulk Hogan are ruining their reputation. Leaving the WWE doesn't mean they are ruining their reputation.

WWE isn't the only Wrestling (Sports Entertainment) Organisation.

Kurt Angle can still out-wrestle 90% of the WWE roster.

Whereas Ric Flair and Hulk Hogan are just there cause they are two of the biggest names in the Pro-Wrestling. Hulk Hogan and Ric Flair hasn't wrestled a match since Bound for Glory 2011.
 
1. U dont even watch the product so you shouldnt judge.. TNA is doing wicked things and is out shining WWE in many different ways... In all Honestly the product is way better then WWE.

2. Kurt Angle is still having amazing matches in TNA, and the stars there really make him shine as well..

Your not understanding what im saying, im not denying angle is a fantastic wrestler, angle could make a broom look like a million dollars im sure so the matches hes probably had in TNA with some of the talent they have in the likes of RVD, Hardy, Roode, Joe, AJ, Sting are just as good as the ones hes had in WWE with the likes of HBK, Jericho, Benoit etc because Angle is fantastic i mean is he not ruining his rep simply because of the twitter rants he go's on about and the web of lies that come from him nothing to do with technical ability at all.

And on Ric Flair as i stated aswell i have no problem in Flair managing up and coming talent etc but forgive me for not wanting to watch a 60+ year old guy get in the ring and mix it with the young stars of tomorrow.
 
If they tarnished their careers it's not because of TNA, it's because of their personal lives.

Kurt Angle is a awesome wrestler, but his tweet's are making him sound insane as hell. Dixie Carter isn't telling him to tweet, so why would that tarnish his professional career.

Hulk Hogan is Tarnishing Hulk Hogan, not Dixie Carter or TNA. He makes his own mistakes and sex tapes, has nothing to do with anyone else.

Ric Flair hasn't tarnished his career for going to TNA. He was styling and profiling, and drinking and fighting with his wives/girlfriends loooong before TNA came into his life.

If anything TNA should get some praise just for forking out the money to these wrestlers to keep them relevant.
 
As a WWE Fan and a watcher of TNA as well my 2 cents here,

Kurt Angle-Fantastic Wrestler in the Ring and has had many Great Matches over the years with the Best in the Business. Its his dumbass Twitter rants and his DUI Arrests,saying his Computer was hacked,and whatever else that is hurting his Reputation.

Hulk Hogan-Dear god where to start with this one. As much as I love & respect what Hogan did for the Business getting it on the map and growing up watching him he just needs to stop. His personal life has gone to hell with his ugly divorce,his Son getting a Car Wreck nearly killing someone,the Sex Tape,etc.

Ric Flair-His Reputation to me is still in tact for the most part. I didn't like him showing up in TNA though after the wonderful sendoff he got at Wrestlemania and on RAW the night after. If he came back to WWE again to maybe help with the Network once it gets started would be awesome.
 
I'm not really sure any of the three have that great a reputation to ruin. If anything, Hogan and Flair are ruining their perceived legacies in the eyes of many fans.

Hogan's personal life and troubles have done more to assassinate his character than anything he's done in TNA could ever do. He's not savior TNA had hoped he'd be, and he comes with a lot of bad publicity, seemingly something new and damaging coming out about him on a monthly basis. With his drawing power diminished, in a company that's yet to really hit it's peak, I'm not sure how much more damage he can do. If he were a WWE talent, given his laundry list of problems, you can believe he'd be gone in an instant.

As for Flair, I can't think of any 'legend' with a worse reputation. He's always been seen as someone that lives too hard and too fast, buys in to his own hype too much, and is holding on to the business for all the wrong reasons. Again, he has no real drawing power, or stake in the success of TNA, and I think the fans see that. He's there for a paycheck, and to keep his finances from taking their umpteenth trip down the drain. His legacy as a great in ring competitor is already as well known as his legacy of bad behaviors and situations. He can't ruin his reputation, it's already shot to hell.

Kurt Angle comes across as someone that honestly may be troubled. He continues to put on great matches whenever the opportunity arises, and I think that fact has kept hi in the forefront of the wrestling world. Twitter is his worst enemy, and I think has served to expose many of his vices and demons, and certainly makes him seem much less the 'Olympic Hero', and much more of a man at a crossroads in life. But, he still has gas in the tank, and genuinely seems to care about TNA and it's success, and I think their fan base respects that. As long as he continues to put on great matches, and keeps his face out of mug shots, his reputation will be safe for the time being.
 
I think, leaving WWE is the best thing that has happened to Kurt Angle. No matter what he did at WWE, the crowd never stopped chanting 'U Suck' to his WWE theme music.

But at TNA, he is a totally different person. And no Miz or R-Truth or any new talent can come close to his level if they ever come to TNA.

Talking about Hulk Hogan and Ric Flair, well, they did their part when they were the heroes/villains. They both were inducted to WWE Hall of Fame as well. Now, it's best that they don't wrestle, but be a manager for some new good talent or two. That won't harm anyone right?

Nowadays, WWE and TNA are lacking with good managers. On the good old days, there were managers all over the place. There were great managers, for example, Million Dollar Man being the manager of The Undertaker as well as the Stone Cold Steve Austin, Paul Heyman being the Manager of Brock Lesnar, Elizabeth being the manager of Randy Savage, Mr. Fuji being the manager of Yokozuna, etc.

Nowadays, Vickie Guerrero is the only one I have seen so far from doing the manager job to somewhat extent.

Hulk Hogan and Ric Flair both have great experience as wrestlers, and I believe it's time they try to be the top wrestler in wherever they are, and bring out a new character in them as managers.
 
My Top 5 Professional Sports Wrestling Entertainment SuperStars, in order are:
1. Chris Jericho
2. Stone Cold Steve Austin and The Rock
4. Kurt Angle
5. Ric Flair and Hulk Hogan

Now, all 6 of these Legendary Hall Of Famers (if they are not in it yet, they will be) have accomplished everything there is to accomplish in Wrestling. In my opinion, anything they do going forward isn’t tarnishing anything they have done in the past. In fact, I feel it is the opposite.

Jericho returns and is in the WWE Championship match of WrestleMania. The Rock returns and is in the Main Event of WrestleMania. Stone Cold Steve Austin is possibly coming back and will probably Main Event WrestleMania XXIX. The chances of my Top 3 coming out with a victory in their WM matches are not as high as their respective last runs. Are they tarnishing their legacies??

Did Batman have the Bat-Signal changed to an “R” when Robin took over, or did Robin take up Batman’s spot, costume and identity??

What Kurt Angle, Ric Flair and Hulk Hogan are doing may be, in the majority’s opinion, hogging the spotlight. What most fail to realize is the spotlight is theirs to take. The current SuperStars from any company aren’t “there” yet. If they were, then Kurt, Ric, and Hulk would be lower on the card. It’s not like we are going to have Hogan vs. Flair vs. Angle in a Triple Threat match for the TNA World Title at Bound For Glory VIII. I feel that as long as they are on TV, I’m happy to see them and will continue to be happy to see them for as long as the can get in a ring, any ring. Their legacies are locked and what they do from this point forward is the exact same thing as what many other Wrestlers turn Managers do. I treat it as two separate careers.
 
Angle- In the ring Kurt Angle is only enhancing his reputation. Unfortunately, like many have said before, out the ring he is doing himself no favors. The claims of stalking / harrassment, the drunk driving and perscription accusations, the twitter wars, including scolding remarks towards Randy Orton for his use of the ankel lock, and then recent disparraging words towards HBK and Austin.

Hogan- Was Hogan's reputation ever that great. In the time of WCW, he used his Creative Control to keep himself on top, and was seen as someone who was just egotistical and didn't want to put anyone over. The claims of "just business" never held water with fans. Then everything went down from there, with the Russo shoot, then Hogan's ****ing of his daugther and his TV show. His divorce, his son's car accident and trial. Then he goes to TNA and builds it up as an epic event with him and Biscoff leading... but it was just a way for him to put money in his pocket and keep him in front of people. So as for his reputation, you can't make horseshit anymore horseshitty.

Flair- Yes, he is just following in Hogan's footsteps. Given one of the greatest send offs in history. Then just like Hogan, real life drama with divorces, money problems. He had the road rage indicent. The only saving grace is, i think fans believe that Flair has a passion for wrestling. Yes its a drug to him, and he can't give it up, but its obviously he loves it and had no problem doing what it takes to better a produce, unlike Hogan.
 
Whenever we talk about wrestlers tarnishing their legacies, particularly Hogan and Flair, I always default to the Mike Tyson argument. That is, Tyson is broke, has had multiple run-ins with the law, was convicted of rape and did prison time, bit off a fellow boxers ear, gone insane on camera on multiple occasions, and became persona non grata to nearly every network television station at one time or another.

Shockingly (and perhaps sadly) enough in spite of all this, there are still folks out there who would pay $49.95 on a PPV to watch Tyson "fight" again. Simply because of who and what Tyson used to be.

So goes Hogan and Flair. People will always concentrate on what these guys have "done" rather than what they are doing now. That's called nostalgia. So Hogan is shilling hard for Rent-A-Center and Flair still thinks he's a limo-riding, jet-flying, prima donna. Does anyone honestly think that either Flair or Hogan coming down the aisle at this years Wrestlemania would result in anything less than the roof being blown off the place? In the words of Gorilla Monsoon, highly unlikely.
 
Well, here's my opinion:

Kurt Angle: No doubdt he's probably the greatest technical wrestler today, but like everyone mentioned, his twitter fiasco, his DUI, not to mention lying about entering the UFC, wich later Dana White said that he loves Kurt, but what he said wasn't true, if he wants to still have a good reputation, then he shouldn't do or say anything outside the ring, because with his attitude he's making people think he's crazy or a liar........

Hogan: In this case, he should just cut his loses and lay low for a while, his personal problems are becoming very public and are demaging him as a person, like i said before, he's someone who refuse to retire because he's got nothing left to do, he should have retire after the matcha with the Rock at Wrestlemania 18, and i bet people would have rember him differently, he would be better of making an appearence here and there than trying to be what he was in the 80's, not happening, and it's not like he's going to do more reality shows.......

Flair: If he keeps being a manager, it's fine, that's a good thing, just as long as he keeps himself out of the ring, because his match at Wrestlemania with Shawn Michaels should have been his last, but like Terry Funk, he came out of retierment to wrestle again, that was a bad move, or a dumb one, it's like he's holding TNA responsable for his lifestyle, he should just slow down and just be a manager........

In other words, Hogan and Flair should have done what Shawn Michaels or Jessie Ventura did, retire while they were on top, and that would have definitly put them as immortals, and Angle should just keep his mouth shut if he doesn't want to tarnish his reputation.......
 
None of them have ruined their reputation because the fact is barely anyone knows what TNA is and probably think they're either dead or retired.

In all seriousness, Flair's only working in a managerial capacity, Hogan's always been an attention ****e but everyone loves him out of nostalgia (and those who never saw him as kids bear witness, bewildered by this ancient man dressed in the brightest of yellows and reddest of feathers acting like a cartoon character), and Angle can only destroy his reputation with the wider audience if he humiliates himself on a larger stage.
 
All 3 guys have 1 common thing, all of their personal lives are not in the best state, and that's me being easy on them. Because of this people are always quick to judge because of all the stuff Hogan did in his life, or Angle, or Flair. When things aren't going well in your life and your famous you are automatically screwed.

It doesn't matter if its Hulk Hogan, Tiger Woods or Arnold Schwarzenegger, in their own way all 3 guys reputations are damaged, in some cases irreparably damaged.

With that said at the end of the day it shouldn't matter. Everyone is quick to say because these guys are famous they can't screw up and get their nose dirty once in a while. People got to realize that just because they're famous doesn't mean they have to with the same stuff regular people like you and me deal with. We have no idea what their lives are like, what pressure society and others put on them, even with people who are always home its hard to make a marriage work and keep your nose clean, imagine how hard it is for someone who spends 90% of their lives on the road, it can't be easy on them.

At the end of the day what they do in their regular lives shouldn't matter (it does but it shouldn't). Wrestlers are supposed to be role models on TELEVISION not in real life, if the media was like how it is now 30 years ago probably every wrestler would have a tarnished image and reputation. For what truly matters (and that's their performance not everyday life) I don't feel any of them have a tarnished image. Angle still puts on great performances every night he's out there, Flair is still great on the mic and Hogan can still be entertaining from time to time. As wrestlers and performers I don't think their images are tarnished at all. Even if all 3 guys aren't as good as they once were it doesn't change what they've done in the past. A year after Flair and Hogan retire for good people are gonna remember all the good things they did, not every little screw up they made.
 
I get the distinct impression that you're a WWE mark who doesn't watch TNA. I also get the distinct impression that you think the mere act of being linked with TNA is tarnishing a reputation.

All 3 are old to varying degrees. Also, if you did watch the product, you'd see that none (except to a degree Kurt) are central to angles and matches anymore. And Kurt is out of the world title picture - probably for a long, long time. I think that you think IW features Sting, Flair and Hogan wrestling on a weekly basis. Well it doesn't.

Kurt did amazing things for TNA and has helped elevate so many talents. He can still put on good matches. So what if he's a bit kooky and has some personal issues. It has nothing to do with his reputation as a wrestler.

I do sometimes wonder why they keep Flair around these days. He doesn't do anything of much note.

Hogan is trying to stay relevant in the industry. He has a degree of creative input in the product, which isn't automatically a bad thing. Roode's heel turn? Hogan's idea. A white meat babyface champion Roode would have been shit. Hogan still has some involvement in onscreen angles, but - correct me if I'm wrong someone - Hogan has only wrestled 2 matches in TNA (unless you count the UK house shows). So what? Hardly hogging the spotlight is he?

Maybe try watching TNA before coming on here and spouting bollocks next time.
 
Kurt Angle hurt his reputation by drinking and driving, physical and verbal abuse of his wife, substance abuse, and by consistently lying about a variety of topics, like MMA for example. Kurt Angle has exposed himself as a habitual liar, he can't help himself. He was a great wrestler, maybe he still is, I don't watch anymore, but my reputation of the man has been greatly diminished.
 
I get the distinct impression that you're a WWE mark who doesn't watch TNA. I also get the distinct impression that you think the mere act of being linked with TNA is tarnishing a reputation.

All 3 are old to varying degrees. Also, if you did watch the product, you'd see that none (except to a degree Kurt) are central to angles and matches anymore. And Kurt is out of the world title picture - probably for a long, long time. I think that you think IW features Sting, Flair and Hogan wrestling on a weekly basis. Well it doesn't.

Kurt did amazing things for TNA and has helped elevate so many talents. He can still put on good matches. So what if he's a bit kooky and has some personal issues. It has nothing to do with his reputation as a wrestler.

I do sometimes wonder why they keep Flair around these days. He doesn't do anything of much note.

Hogan is trying to stay relevant in the industry. He has a degree of creative input in the product, which isn't automatically a bad thing. Roode's heel turn? Hogan's idea. A white meat babyface champion Roode would have been shit. Hogan still has some involvement in onscreen angles, but - correct me if I'm wrong someone - Hogan has only wrestled 2 matches in TNA (unless you count the UK house shows). So what? Hardly hogging the spotlight is he?

Maybe try watching TNA before coming on here and spouting bollocks next time.

You clearly haven’t read my posts have you??? At what point did I say any of them three going to TNA ruined or tarnished there career?? I have posted this once but you clearly don’t read all the posts you just read the first and jump straight in so here it is just for you...

Kurt Angle is one of the greatest wrestlers of all time imo, his matches in wwe with the likes of HBK, HHH, Rock, Austin, Edge, Benoit and Jericho the list go's on and on. Angle could make a broom look like a million dollars no question I would love to see Kurt back in WWE but I admire the fact that he took a step down to build something from the ground up and what he believed in I hope TNA becomes successful and challenges WWE like the old WCW did. I’m not surprised to hear Angle has had fantastic matches in TNA probably with the likes of AJ, Roode, Joe, Sting, Hardy, RVD and whoever else the reason I think he has tarnished his rep is purely because of the constant lies, twitter rants and then saying oh sorry my account was hacked, the UFC thing its just lies...that somewhat tarnishes his rep imo.

Hulk Hogan... first off I’m sorry Hulk Hogan is trying to stay relevant in the industry are you having a fucking laugh??? The HULK HOGAN??? The biggest name to ever come out of wrestling who is known world wide?? Seriously?? Hogan doesn’t need to stay relevant he deserves respect a true living legend for everything he has given the business as a whole no matter if its WWE, WCW, TNA or whoever. You clearly have no idea.

When I heard Hogan was going to TNA with Eric Bischoff I thought fucking hell that’s big news, great news for TNA fans and WWE fans. Hogan stated he wasn’t there to wrestle and like I said I turn on the TV and I find him in the middle of the ring pissing blood it doesn’t matter if he has had one match or fifty it’s still a LIE!! Just another fine example of someone who just lies about all sorts of shit he says one thing today then it changes tomorrow etc, I was a hulkamaniac in the 80's 90's no question I’m an admirer of what Hogan has done for the business I just don’t like the bullshit he comes out with how everything is always his idea when its great.

Hogan and Flair would be alot better behind the scenes being creative, storylines, training younger talent, input in to what works what doesn’t work etc that would be great for TNA fans. Hogan doesn’t need to get involved in storylines or matches to stay relevant my friend.
 
This is a pretty good topic.

All three have hurt themselves to some degree, but Hogan's legacy is by far the safest. Flair's is pretty safe as well.

Angle on the other hand has just become a damn lunatic. With his crazy ass jealous sounding Twitter remarks, with his overinflated ego and with his crazy focus on what WWE fans and WWE people think of him he has started to look silly. He is one of the best performers of all time. He is a fantastic champion and he has still been pretty good in TNA, but from the crazy divorce to the crazy Twitter stuff ... his legacy definitely will struggle to hold up to the place it could have been if he had stayed in the WWE.
 
All 3 of them have had their seperate ways of doing it, but the least "ruined in TNA" is Hogan.

Hogan ruined himself LONG before he stepped in the ring of TNA, whether it was in WCW where everyone could see he was starting to go downhill and implode from everything that was going on. His last run in WWF/E and then last few matches he was there for at Summerslam in 2005 and 2006 couldn't do anything to stop it either. His marriage fell apart, we were hearing about scandals all across the board, and then he got to TNA where I guess he thought he could make something out of himself still...

Angle and Flair have had their obvious reasons for why they have gone downhill, but Hogan has been on that track for years.
 
The Way I see it......

Kurt Angle- I dont think he has hurt his legacy at all. He may not be on the big stage (WWE) but the guy is a face of a company and is one of (if not the) best in ring wrestler. If anything, Angle might have helped his legacy by going to TNA. Better him there as the face of the company then no where.

Ric Flair- I dont think he has hurt is legacy that much either. I would have liked him to stay retired and just pop back in to WWE every once in a while but I understand he doesnt want to retire. Flair hasnt done anything too stupid to hurt his legacy

Hulk Hogan- This one is a COMPLETELY different story. Hulk Hogan, the icon, The face of the WWE for so long has completely ruined his legacy. Let me first say that yes, Hulk Hogan is Hulk Hogan and will always be Hulk Hogan BUT... the past few years have been disaster for hulkamania. He went to TNA and has wrestled which I hated, then had all this go on with his family, now he is a laughing stock in the wrestling world. Not to mention a SEX TAPE is now out. The guy has hit all time lows. Hulk Hogan will always be remembered by the man who WAS the WWE back in the day.... but in the past few years, he has fell off and hurt his legacy
 
They are definitly ruining their rep.

Angle because he keeps making a fool on himself by doing senseless interviews and on twitters. If TNA had someone in charge with authority they would say to shut the Hell up.

Hogan he needs to go. Whatever imposing his stance on the product or dragging TNA down.

Flair Was perfect as manager to help push a talent like AJ Styles. But once he got into the ring and started bleeding like a pig it was all over.

They should just act with respect it would go well. Overall I think these three are not used well in TNA.
 

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