Another thread on How to turn Cena heel

[johnbragg]

I don't know that you can do a real heel turn with Cena, at least not for a few years. The most you could do would be to set up a situation where there is a seriously split crowd reaction, with a strong competitor to Cena who gives the crowd reasons to cheer him and hate Cena. This would be a "we're beyond heels and faces" philosophy, so the anti-Cena would have to avoid clear heel actions or he's the heel and Cena's the babyface and we just have some Cena haters cheering again. The anti-Cena would probably focus on Cena's good looks and WWE Golden Boy status, so you'd want someone with a brutal history and not a pretty-face type.

Maybe Mr. McMahon aligns with Cena, and Triple H is the anti-Cena? McMahon pulls strings for his moneymaking Golden Boy--Cena doesn't cross the line into cheating, but he can't help benefiting from McMahon's help.

 

[drobs85]

"Little Jerry the king lawler" I said turn CENA heel because they boo him as a FACE anyway, so wouldnt that make sense. The idiot fans boo the FACES and cheer the HEELS anyway.

 

[SSJPhenom]

Who cares if Cena is heel or not? I certainly don't.

What I really want to know is, what is the obsession with turning Cena heel? Why would the WWE do this? Cena is their biggest face and biggest draw. Why would they change that? If he did turn heel, who would he face? What would he do? There isn't another face as big as him. The only one that comes close is 'Taker.

People, you really need to get over the Cena turn because if it ever does happen, it will be a long, long time from now.

 

[drobs85]

Cena sells merchandise, Cena is the biggest draw. Cena this, kids love him. Well newsflash, i've been watching wrestling since 1991, and kids loved all the top heels , Hogan, Warrior, Sycho Sid, Michaels, Undertaker, Andre the Giant, Austin, The Rock, Kurt Angle, Triple h. All those names sold just as much merchandise as a heel or face. So they won't lose anything by turning him HEEL. Just do it for god sake.

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

Cena sells merchandise, Cena is the biggest draw. Cena this, kids love him. Well newsflash, i've been watching wrestling since 1991, and kids loved all the top heels , Hogan, Warrior, Sycho Sid, Michaels, Undertaker, Andre the Giant, Austin, The Rock, Kurt Angle, Triple h. All those names sold just as much merchandise as a heel or face. So they won't lose anything by turning him HEEL. Just do it for god sake.

But all of those names sold more merchandise as a face than as a heel so your argument is invalid. There are not many kids in the audience that love heels because if there were, Jeff Hardy and Mysterio wouldn't be as over as they are. They're not going to turn Cena heel just because you want them to.

 

[THE SWAG]

the best way to turn him heel would be a match between legacy vs cena and dx, at the end of the match have him blast a chair against to legends hbk and hhh, boy will he get instant heat, and then he joins the legacy group as the fourth member, it is about time he turns heel

 

[Zeven_Zion]

Turning people heel isn't always about "attacking" and beating the crap out of other babyfaces. Think deeper, turd burglars...

What does Cena stand for? Fans, Hustle, Loyalty, Respect, jeans, sneakers, merchandise shirts.

Why do the kiddies like him? He's strong, he's big, he loves them more than anything

And, bingo. Cena is good enough on the mic to turn heel ON the freakin' stick. You wanna make a huge face into a huge heel, go against every damn thing he stands for and do it with a bang. In order for the kiddies to hate him, he has to do something bad to them.

Then another questions pops up. Why? Why would Cena do something to the kiddies. Well, it's pretty simple. They'll use the "HBK Logic", hence uncover some real stuff going on and stop acting like some things aren't as they are. Cena complains that all these years he's been there for the fans, and he was working his ass off to please them. THen again half the crowd boos him. He continues. He'll say that he's got his personal life almost on hold for them. He recently got married and he didn't even have a chance to spend much time with his wife BECAUSE of the fans. Then he'll be confronted by some of the top babyfaces, the ones the KIDDIES like ( Rey, Kofi, maybe Bourne ) , some guys that can really sell. Cena, being the superman that he is will use his "power" to absolutely destroy all three of them.

It's a pretty basic logic but meh...

By the way, Cena will NEVER turn heel as long as there's not another walking merchandise stand in the house. Forget about it. He brings money, heel cena won't bring a cent. If Cena wasn't bringing money he'd be already fired. That's why he's champ, that's why he's a main-eventer. Go look up some documentaries and hear what Vince said the very first time he saw Cena. He said something like.. "This kid is going to bring a lot of money" or something like that.

 

[gregfj2]

Heel Cena is a horrible idea. Makes no sense with other storylines as they are today. Who's he gonna PPV with - DX every month? Or Orton if suddenly gone face overnight? You should probably have a year's worth of matches lined up b4 you pitch a change like that. "Just sayin'" from my random onscreen face bubble.

 

[Барбоса]

For Cena to become a fully-fledged heel would require something on a par with Hogan's turn for the formation of the NWO plus a heavily over face to take his place - neither of which are currently available.

The Undertaker could possibly turn Cena but that would likely only be for a one-off showdown at Wrestlemania similar to HBK's turn in the programme with Hogan.

Cena as a heel is always an option mainly because of his mic skills but where is the motivation for Vince and the WWE to turn their biggest cash cow?

Does his character need freshening up? Probably but if that were to happen it would be anything as drastic as a dastardly heel turn or a large-scale repackaging

 

[The Todd]

Let's completely disregard the stupid business move it would be and look at it purely from a storyline point of view.

As a heel, who would Cena have to feud with? HHH and HBK have been done. He could feud with 'taker but that's best left for WrestleMania. So we have Mark Henry and MVP. Turn him heel for two feuds that wouldn't be money-grabbing feuds, just feuds to put over talent that needs help. Cena isn't in that stage of his career yet. He needs to be in big matches all the time.

Cena will turn heel IF the company have another huge babyface that they can trust 100% who is not injury prone. Then, and only then, can they have Cena turn and face this new guy. Austin didn't turn heel until The Rock was at a level that he could replace him (granted after his film break). Hogan didn't turn heel until there was Sting to replace him.

With Batista moving to Smackdown there is even less chance of a heel turn happening anytime soon, and with CM Punk doing so well there will be no heel turn until Cena and him have had a feud, which could take a couple of years yet.

 

[People's Champ]

Ok so after reading the latest plan someone had of how to turn Cena heel I felt this was needed. Here people can openly discuss they ideas of turning Cena heel and shouldn't have to worry about the whole "he can't turn heel because" responses. I myself don't think Cena can nor should turn heel but this is not the thread to discuss why or why not. Also maybe we can turn this into a little competition. Let's see all the ideas people have on how to turn him heel. Let it all out of your system without having to feel the wrath of the "not ANOTHER Cena heel turn thread" answer. After everyone can come in and vote on who has the best idea. So let's see what you got.

 

[Kenny Powers]

Thats why I said the part about the kiddies hero.Do you think if Cena would have beaten Jeff Hardy senseless with a chair would the kiddies still cheer him ? And the week after that he would do the same with Mysterio, would they still cheer him ? If yes, there is something wrong with the kids who watch the WWE.

First off Jeff Hardy is out of WWE and has so many problems I doubt we will even see him compete again for a long time. Secondly, Mysterio isn't a bigger face than Cena. If Cena were to turn on Mysterio that wouldn't make any sense whatsoever. Maybe the kids wouldn't cheer for him but no one would care about a Cena heel turn against Mysterio or anyone else. I'm all for having Cena feud with other wrestlers besides Orton, Edge and Jericho. Austin was turned heel too and we all know how that turned out. He got a few boos but mainly cheers. I'm no Cena fan but there are millions of people that are, turning him heel now doesn't make any sense.

 

[Loveless]

This again? Seriously
The way you turn Cena heel is the way you turn any face heel. You have them attack someone more popular. Then you turn them into a prick and have them win consistently by cheating.
People keep saying Cena will turn heel when his fans grow up. I see a flaw in that logic, seeing as he's consistently picking up new young fans. I don't agree with this idea of creating brand conciousness in young viewers either, as I believe the WWE isn't interesting enough to keep them in the same way we've grown up with it. It always amazes me that the WWE would go from the Attitude era, the most sucessful money making wrestling era and go in completely the opposite direction. Anyway I'm getting off topic now...

 

[Liberace]

Cena sells merchandise, Cena is the biggest draw. Cena this, kids love him. Well newsflash, i've been watching wrestling since 1991, and kids loved all the top heels , Hogan, Warrior, Sycho Sid, Michaels, Undertaker, Andre the Giant, Austin, The Rock, Kurt Angle, Triple h. All those names sold just as much merchandise as a heel or face. So they won't lose anything by turning him HEEL. Just do it for god sake.

Ok listen folks this goes for everyone here including drobs85 I am tired of seeing CENA sells Merchandise who fringin cares When Hogan turned heel he sold more merchandise this hommmoboy boytoy ok yet either way he made money It is time now for Randy Orton to turn face!!! A small 20% like CENA everyone else likes Orton 80%

 

[drobs85]

Little jerry the king" Read "liberace's" point! My point exactly "liberace" either way, heel or face, they're still going to make money and tons of it. So what makes people think Cena won't sell even more merchandise as a heel? There is no reason for him to continue to remain face and continue to get booed by these dumb fans. Maybe as a heel, he'll get the respect he deserves.

 

[drobs85]

Also "little jerry the king" Mysterio isnt really that over. Also Jeff hardy and mysterio arent heels, re-read your comment.

 

[OWEN-ing It All]

To turn Cena heel you'd have to have him attack DX. Because half the fans already hate Cena. But half of them also love Orton, so you couldn't have him help Orton, eventually they'd both be faces and that's not gonna work.

If Cena turns on DX he'd be hated from the word go. Then and only then would he become a heel. They are the only ones more popular than him on RAW.

 

[Gerbil9892]

so much unoriginality here, everyone hates Cena.. lol oh well. Here's how I'd do it, at a Tribute to the Troops event (albeit not one anytime soon I say milk the cash cow till don't milk no more) have Cena finish off an opponent and say he wants to bring a few of the service members up; when he gives that ridiculous salute one of them should try to show him a proper one. At that point I'd have him get defensive and be like "Yo, who said you could touch me?!" and start brawling hitting the "Throwback" (lamest name ever) on a couple of my brothers in uniform before locking in the STFU until the last one passes out.

Given, this won't get everyone to boo him, but the reaction at the event would translate well to those at home and even if half the nation things the war is bogus they still support the troops.

As far as his opponent for after the turn, they've got a well stocked developmental system to help prepare for that point, but if we went with someone on the roster I'd use Jericho (he's gonna turn eventually too lol)

 

[DXOWNZ]

It would have to be something sudden, that we don't see coming.

Aren't all heel turns supposed to be sudden? A face doesn't simply come out and say "Hate me now, please" They have to do something to get some heel heat.

Yeah, but some heel turns take maybe a month or two. For example, CM Punk wasn't an imediate heel when he was feuding with Hardy. He wasn't tagging with Jeff, they win, and boom heel turn. He started to feud with Hardy after he cashed MITB, and it took them a while to make him a full heel.

BTW I hate Cena, he bores me. Please turn him heel. I don't care how. One Raw he actually put me to sleep. So please make this guy INTERESTING!!!!

 

[partain21]

I think they should end the feud with DX and Legacy so that Legacy can finally split up. Then start a feud between DX and another group of 3 younger guys like Carlito, Miz, etc.... something along those lines. The reason i say 3 is because nobody would take 2 guys against DX seriously unless the were already main eventers so i would rather have 3 mid card guys. They really should try to create some bad blood between the two groups(make it personal). Then when it all has come down to a big match at a PPV and the bad guys have the upper hand ,John Cena (who is still the champ) comes to save the day, but instead helps finish off DX. Then you have the 4 man group ,with Cena as the leader, dominate for a while to get that much more heat on them. This would help people like Kofi, MVP, ect..... get more of a push as they try to help DX stop the evil John Cena and his bad guy friends from taking over raw.