Andy Leavine

[Raven]

So if any of you guys forgot who this guy is..I don't blame you, this guys is WWEs Tough Enough winner. While on the show he gained the nickname "silent rage". Now I personally was excited for the debut of silent rage..then he had to go get himself suspended. This thread is really about 2 things:

1. Where is Andy? i know he got suspended, but he isn't even listed on th FCW roster page.

anyway that was the spam question, the real question

2. If you could debut Andy in anyway possible, how would you utilize the "silent rage" character. You can tag him up with anybody..have him do anything, just make Silent Rage make an impact

 

[mikde_]

I am personally a huge fan of "Silent Rage"....

joking....i hate the guy!

He managed to win a competition filled with much better performers and athletes and i would go as far to say that his size won him the competition. Also he beat out younger guys too. Im not sure on his age but im guessing andy isnt a young guy? He just screams out "GENERIC!" to me and i see nothing bright in his wrestling future. There is far better young talent waiting to make a move both in WWE and FCW and i really see no point of even debuting him. Sure he probably should get atleast one shot on tv because he did "win" tough enough but would anyone even care if we never saw this guy in a wrestling ring again?

 

[Klown_Karnage]

I got wind of a rumor that Andy will be debuting on an upcoming season of NXT. If that's so, then it's kind of odd that he should have to win another "competition" in order to get into the WWE. Maybe the WWE has no intention of actually using him and is using the online-only NXT show to get rid of him. It's a pity if that is the case. I saw some potential in him and anyways, if they don't put that guy on television and at least give him a few spots, then it pretty much takes away any legitimacy that the entire season of Tough Enough may have had.

Whatever the case may be where that's concerned, if Andy does finally come back and debut, I would have him show up and start invading promos and matches in the mid-card. If they want him to be a heel, then it doesn't matter whom or how he attacks. If they want him to be a face, they can always restrict it to him hounding a particularly annoying mid-card heel. Give him a bit of momentum, but have him get knocked back a bit. Then team him with Kane who would mentor him a bit and fuel his rage. Have him become "demon's apprentice" for a while before pulling a face-turn and breaking out on his own.

That's how I'd book it.

 

[The "Blueprint"]

1. Andy is in FCW currently working under the name Kevin Hackman.

http://www.fcwwrestling.info/kevinhackman1.html

2. I would have Andy attacking random superstars backstage. His name is "Silent Rage" so i would also keep him from cutting promos to add a bit of mystery to his character. I think this would make a good debut for him on tv.

Andy is around 24-25 years old by the way.

 

[stephaniexa]

I wanted to answer your question informatively so I looked up FCW and Andy Leavine is listed there. He is wrestling under the name of Kevin Hackman.

Now for how I would book him. I would bring back the Undertaker as his mentor and have him become the next big scary monster tweener.

 

[Harddyboy77]

I would have him win an nxt(not a good idea but effective) wait about 3 months to debut him afterword. He runs out and attacks Cena, he is pissed off that he has won 2 competitions and WWE still isn't treating him right. Cena goes over him every time. HHH puts him against Ziggler for the US title if he loses he is fired. Edge runs out and helps him. Andy is kayfabe trained by edge.

 

[The Wolf]

I agree with The "Blueprint" on the part bout having him attacking random superstars backstage & keeping him from cutting promos. I would make it that he is working for some one though doing their dirty work so to speak. My personal preference is Ted DiBiase (only cause I feel the WWE dropped the ball on him) no one knows what he is winning all of a sudden or who is taken out the superstars till a title match & he interferes resulting in a title win. Have him play lacky for a little then turn face

 

[Dagger Dias]

He is lucky that he had won Tough Enough or else he would already be future endeavoured. Andy made a bad first impression by not selling Stone Cold's Stunner and then he was dumb enough to go violate the Wellness Policy. Had it not been for his Tough Enough win he would be gone. They needed to keep him around longer so people will see that it is worth it to win that competition.

I do not think he will be back onscreen anytime soon. When he does I agree with those who say he should randomly attack people but never speak. During matches, promos, anytime anywhere anyone would be a potential victim regardless of face/heel status. Then after a month or two of these attacks I'd have him be interviewed backstage. I might actually never have him speak though, even in interviews. His wrestling and beatdowns could speak for themselves. He then moves into his first feud. I hope he comes back in a way similar to that because it would make a huge impression AND fit his Silent Rage nickname so well.

 

[d_henderson1810]

1) Why are they having Andy Leavine wrestle under the name "Kevin Hackman". Can't they have him in FCW under his proper name? I mean, you can tell it's the guy who won "Tough Enough".

Why even bother with "Tough Enough" if they won't take it seriously? I mean, next season, if I watch, I now know that the prize is meaningless, since they don't end up using you anyway It was bad enough last time, when they didn't utilize Maven from season 1 (who, IMO, had the makings of a future main-eventer), and the only person to have benefitted long-term from "Tough Enough" was Mike Mizanin (the Miz), and he was only runner-up in his season.John Morrison won his season, and yet is now buried for petty reasons. They may as well do away with "Tough Enough" altogether if they don't care enough to push anyone.

2) So, Andy Leavine is being held back because of a Wellness Violation? Wasn't it his FIRST violation? I thought it was three strikes (and, in Randy Orton and Chris Benoit's cases, you don't get fired even then (too bad Andy doesn't have a Legendary father, or isn't being chased by TNA)). Is this an attempt for WWE to look like they are getting "tough on drug use", to appease the media? Too bad the WWE didn't have this policy twenty years ago (imagine how many wrestlers would be alive today if they had buried someone after ONE violation?). Obviously Leavine wasn't main-eventing or anything, so suspending him won't hurt the bottom-line like suspending others would.

3) I don't buy the Wellness Violation is the reason anyway. I just think, like a lot of things, Vince got bored and forgot about it. He changes plans all the time, and only brought back "Tough Enough" for more TV spots, advertising revenue and to cash in on the reality TV phenomenon (as well as possible mentions on talk-shows and "Entertainment Tonight"). I mean, finding a future superstar is only secondary in the scheme of things.

4) It seems that not too many of you are shedding tears about Andy's burial either. You know, it's funny, but I don't remember reading many posts on here at the time, where people said who they wanted to see win "Tough Enough". I didn't hear mass cries of injustice when Maven, a future WWE or World Champion IMO, was released. Maybe you didn't care about who won, because you people don't embrace new superstars. You can't even get behind Sheamus, Miz, Morrison, R-Truth, Kofi Kingston or Ted DiBiase. You only get behind C.M. Punk because he was from ROH (making you look intellectual for even knowing what the hell ROH is), and because he cut a worked promo, where he said things that you liked. You only like Zack Ryder, Trent Baretta and other non-entities because they are never pushed, and it is the "underdog mentality". If WWE gets behind someone, you hate on them, because you want to be different. So, of course you don't like Andy Leavine. Why bring in someone new, when the WWE could just get the Rock to show up again, or drag Undertaker out of his umpteenth "hiatus", so that you can indulge your "Attitude Era" fantasies once again, while no new guys get pushed. It just proves a lot of wrestling fans and writers are hypocrites, because they scream for new talent, and then won't get behind anyone new.

Too bad Andy Leavine wasn't around in the "Attitude Era", doesn't have his own Youtube show, isn't from ROH or some other bush league, or doesn't talk on the mike like the Rock, or play politics by walking out when he doesn't get his own way, say others can't work, or by marrying Stephanie McMahon, or be friends with the guy who did marry Stephanie.

4) I think a good feud for Andy Leavine would be the Big Show. Big Show could claim to be the only giant around here, but Andy challenges him. Also, Big Show is good on the mike, so he can carry the promo work in the feud (which, according to most of you, is the most important part).

 

[Remix]

1. Where is Andy? i know he got suspended, but he isn't even listed on th FCW roster page.

FCW, and yes he is.

http://www.fcwwrestling.info/kevinhackman1.html

anyway that was the spam question, the real question

2. If you could debut Andy in anyway possible, how would you utilize the "silent rage" character. You can tag him up with anybody..have him do anything, just make Silent Rage make an impact

as WWE Tough Enough Winner Andy Leavine. I'd just book him as a major midcard face able to hold his own with guys like Cody Rhodes. I'd have him debut after a series of vigniettes designed to make him look awesome and relatable and have him and the commentators talk about winning TE, his hard life and shit. Maybe have one of his TE trainers manage him for his first match or two to help him get his foot in the door.

After that he's got to sink or swim on his own merits.

 

[waylonmercy]

It would be embarassing to have this competition and the winner is in the dog house the entire time to the point that they want to release him. I remember when Maven won Tough Enough and eliminated the Undertaker I thought that was one of the coolest moments due to that show. The crowd was so excited. To me it felt like a guy who learned to wrestle, performed a drop kick which he LEARNED to eliminate one of the greatest WWE wrestlers ever!

 

[Larry]

If you could debut Andy in anyway possible, how would you utilize the "silent rage" character. You can tag him up with anybody..have him do anything, just make Silent Rage make an impact

First, I wouldn't tag him with anybody. You don't need to piggy back him with anyone else to get him rolling. I think if you look at the way they are building the debut of Brodus Clay you can see exactly how to debut Andy Leavine. Imagine in your head if you will, the Brodus Clay promo packages with Andy Leavine in his place and them promoting the shit out of the "Silent Rage" persona in them instead. I think that's the very approach you make, give it a build for some time before his debut, get the buzz going with this guy.

Andy Leavine, for all his faults DOES have the look, more so I would say than a lot of his FCW counterparts. You can use that and capitalize on it to no end. He doesn't have to be brilliant on the mic either all he has to do is get a point across, that being "I'm here to kick your ass". I'm sure his time in FCW has been mostly to get him polished in the ring as well so when he does debut I'm sure that base will have been covered. He can use this "Silent Rage" persona and be pushed as heel or face, all of which is dependent on who you feud him with.

For my exclusive report on how to do this, click the spoiler tag.

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I think he could be a big star, it all depends on how you use him. In fact, I might get some WTF's? for this but I think that if you wanted to continue to use The Undertaker gimmick after The Undertaker himself leaves, you could have this guy take it over and continue the legacy of that character. You could have this whole angle with Taker where his body is breaking down and will not be able to continue on as the vessel for the spirit of The Undertaker, he could announce this as a prelude to his retirement and this would be his last program. Andy Levine could come out as his "Silent Rage" character and tell Taker that he is the one to continue the legacy of The Undertaker, to Takers disbelief.

This would result in Undertaker putting him through a series of matches against other opponents where "Silent Rage" would have to prove to Taker that he is indeed the one to become the new Undertaker. At some point Taker begins to take more interest and see more promise in Andy as he begins to become his protege. As the relationship develops, at some point Andy comes back to remind Taker that his whole intention was to replace him as The Undertaker and that he hasn't forgot why: because his body is weakening and can't continue it for much longer.

You could carry this on for months if you want, 5 ppv's in a row leading up to a final showdown at one of the big 4 where Andy would then face The Undertaker himself in the final test: a casket match. If Andy wins he becomes the new Undertaker, proving that the current Undertaker truly has been broken down and can no longer carry the spirit of The Undertaker. If Andy loses, The Undertaker proves to still be the one and walks off into the sunset, never to allow one to take his rightful role as The Deadman, as The Undertaker.

Of course this whole thing is designed to come to one end, and that is Andy Leavine becoming the new Undertaker. So during this match you will see Andy Leavine using The Undertakers moves as if he is becoming the Undertaker then and there, as if the spirit of the Undertaker is transferring from one body to the other. He hits the flying clothesline, he walks the ropes, he sits up from being seemingly knocked out cold, and finally he choke slams him and Tombstones The Undertaker, rolls his body into the casket, and shuts the lid. The lights flicker, the thunder rolls, and fade into the purple lighting we all know so well. Lightning strikes the casket, and Andy Leavine hits Undetakers pose in the middle of the ring, the new Undertaker.

 

[mrpops]

It would be embarassing to have this competition and the winner is in the dog house the entire time to the point that they want to release him. I remember when Maven won Tough Enough and eliminated the Undertaker I thought that was one of the coolest moments due to that show. The crowd was so excited. To me it felt like a guy who learned to wrestle, performed a drop kick which he LEARNED to eliminate one of the greatest WWE wrestlers ever!

I AGREE! And one of my fav matches(which is also Mavens best match ever) is when he fought Chris Jericho for the Undisputed Title on a random episode of RAW shortly after that years royal rumble. So many roll up pins etc. I legit thought maven would steal a victory. Loved that match. Very entertaining. Surprised Maven never achieved much after that. He basically had 1 good match, elimanated taker and had a decent fued with al snow.

As for andy leiveinenen(or whatever its spelt)....he can go die in a fire for all i care. The guy sucks. Let him stay in FCW.

 

[Mike D]

He's been training with the best the business and wwe has to offer (FCW) for aprox a year and a half. If you don't got it by now you simply don't got it, unfortunately.

 

[The 1-2-3 Killam]

I called it from week one that Andy would win Tough Enough. I rooted for him the whole time because he was the only guy I thought had the look and the drive to make it in the WWE, and he was constantly improving in the ring. And then he won, and I realized it probably wasn't the best decision in the world... The guy is corny and can't cut a promo to save his life (well, that's actually not true. He did a few good spots when pushed by Austin). He's incredibly awkward and you could tell when he was in the ring with Austin and Vince McMahon on Raw he had no idea what to do. A lot of that was probably nerves and never having done it before. Maybe he can debut and shock everyone by being great... Possibly all this time down in FCW has made him a really solid Superstar. I doubt it...

Don't debut him. Give me Brodus Clay instead. That guy is a BEAST!

 

[kingk12]

This guy is first cousins with former WWE star Waylon Mercy. I think they even changed his name in FCW to Kevin Hackman. I think that they have big plans for him, I would love to see him take on an Undertaker or Kane like gimmick.

 

[Fear&Loathing]

WWE messed this up big time. even though Luke was an arrogant cocky dick he was clearly the better guy and had the most potential now look at Andy last i heard suspended for drugs and working the doors handing out tickets at FCW

however I could see Andy being used as a bodyguard type manager to a heel up and coming superstar i really dont see the guy making it on his own after his recent cock up

 

[waylonmercy]

This guy is first cousins with former WWE star Waylon Mercy. I think they even changed his name in FCW to Kevin Hackman. I think that they have big plans for him, I would love to see him take on an Undertaker or Kane like gimmick.

First cousins with Dan Spivey eh! WOW, that's neat being the biggest Waylon Mercy fan around!

It would be nice for a Tough Enough talent to make a huge impact and even though John Hennigan (MOrrison) has be very successful I think a winner being a serious challenge would help boost the reputation of the show.

 

[VCUpkunk11]

The only reasons this dude won are:

1. One of the best guys in the competition....Martin... got hurt and couldnt finish competing.

2. It came down to him and Luke...and while Luke was the better of the 2 athletic wise, he got stuck up at the end, and Andy finally grew a pair and won bc of it...personally he shoulda been gone way b4 that.

3. the best female in the comp. Ivelisse also got injured and couldnt finish competing.

4. and Jeremiah was too much of a show boat which is wat got him kicked.

Honestly other then Jeremiah, Ivelisse, Luke, and Martin...the rest were jokes.

If Andy had acted like a monster from the very beginning, like he did at the end...then Id say he earned that title...but I think its a hoax