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An Honest Question For Anyone With A Problem With Rock's Return?

Con T.

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I made a non-spam thread about this, but really, I'm just curious to see the response, and what people say, so I'll do a spam thread, too.

I just sincerely want to know. How does anybody who has had a problem with the Rock's return so far feel about Chris Jericho? If Chris Jericho were to come back in the next six or eight months, would you consider Chris Jericho a sell out? In all honesty.
 
I don't have a problem w/Rock leaving to do movies. Hell, if people want to keep nitpicking about that, they'll have to do it w/Austin too when Tough Enough starts.

They needed a name for Mania, Rock filled the bill. No problems w/that. I'm not exactly pining for a return to the Attitude Era or anything, but a guest host role is fine.

That being said, I think they did the Rock/Cena thing to get people interested. Rock by himself was fine, but I think they are just trying to push as much as they can. I see, especially w/Riley getting "canned" tonight, Rock coming out and costing Cena the match at Mania. I just see it happening. He might Rock Bottom Miz right after too so he stays "tweener" status, but I'm thinking this is the direction they'll go if Rock decides to kick it around WWE for a while.
 
It wouldn't have hurt him to come say hi. I admit, if he had, his anaheim pop wouldn't have been as loud, but fuck, if you love me, come say hey. 7 years? Come on now.
 
It wouldn't have hurt him to come say hi. I admit, if he had, his anaheim pop wouldn't have been as loud, but fuck, if you love me, come say hey. 7 years? Come on now.

Yeah, being away 7 years is a long time. I know, I know; movie career, too busy, etc. He wasn't too busy for Letterman, Regis, Leno, Conan, or Kimmel. Hell, he called nearly a full quarter of action during a Detroit Lions game. I never saw the downside in promoting one of his films on WWE television. But, oh well.

Now, unlike most fans who had a problem with that, I don't hold it against Rock. He's back, and he's tearing it up. I'm loving every second of it. He's walked back in, and is still the most talented mic guy they have, and it's really not even close. Seven years, three years, thirty years..I care not. Glad to see the guy.
 
Hollywood Rock actually went to Hollywood while Hollywood Hogan wrestled. Hollywood should revolve around wrestling not the other way around damn it.
 
I cant understand people that "feel abandoned" or whatever, he cant win anyway, stay away for a while and then when he comes back and it's a huge moment, you get people whinging because apparently he's been gone too long and he's a sellout and doesnt care.

Or go the other route and keep returning like Austin, in which case you've got people saying "he just comes back for cheap pops". Bloody Fools.

The whole Cena thing is funny, just gives Cena a chance to prove he can hang with Rock (which anyone with a brain knew anyway) and it's really divided people. Good stuff by WWE I think.

I just sincerely want to know. How does anybody who has had a problem with the Rock's return so far feel about Chris Jericho? If Chris Jericho were to come back in the next six or eight months, would you consider Chris Jericho a sell out? In all honesty.

Erm, nope. Considering he's not long been gone either.
 
Rox said it perfectly. Don't tell people you always loved them after spending 7 years IGNORING them. Be honest. At least admit that if you love them you've done a shit job showing it over the past 7 years.

Now for the differences between Rock and Jericho
1. Jericho spent twice as long in wrestling before his first break, which was 5 years shorter. Jericho was burned out, and for good reason. Rock retired, nothing wrong with that.
2. Jericho still never shied away from the wrestling business during EITHER of his breaks. While he wasn't employed by WWE, he still in interviews would put over the company and the people working for it.
3. Both have been equally busy (albeit Jericho not doing as mainstream stuff as Rock). People act like Jericho sat on his ass while Rock worked, which is bullshit (and those people know it).
4. On both his breaks, Jericho never even tried to bury anyone on the roster, because he still respected the people doing it. Rock spending 7 years away, only making an appearance to shit on pretty much the entire roster at the Hall of Fame was a dick move.
5. As I said in the thread, both had potentially a lot to lose by defending wrestling publicly after Benoit tried to destroy the entire business. Rock ignored wrestling, Jericho defended it. Jericho rebounded pretty fucking fine (his book debuted a few months later on the New York Times Bestseller list), so obviously it didn't hurt him much at all to be associated with WWE at the time.

If Chris Jericho spends the next 7 years completely away from wrestling, tries to bury the entire roster at one point, then comes back and tells the wrestling fans that he has always loved them, I'd feel the same way. Thankfully, I highly doubt that will happen (especially the 2nd part).
 
Rox said it perfectly. Don't tell people you always loved them after spending 7 years IGNORING them. Be honest. At least admit that if you love them you've done a shit job showing it over the past 7 years.[

Yeah sorry he was kinda busy... ya know, having a career and a life over that last 7 fucking years

Now for the differences between Rock and Jericho

Oh this should be good...

1. Jericho spent twice as long in wrestling before his first break, which was 5 years shorter. Jericho was burned out, and for good reason. Rock retired, nothing wrong with that.

Jericho was a mid carder for 15 yrs., Rock was a Main Eventer, and trying to ballence personal appearances, Make a wish appearances, start a movie career, being a new father, and make as many WWE appearances as possible, and did a masterful job of balancing everything on his plate, Jericho just had to worry about getting to the next show, pretty sure Rocky was just as burned out after 7 years on top of the business adn Jericho was as 15 yrs. of being in the mid-card

BTW did Jericho ever reach steady ME success before Rock left, nope didn't think so

2. Jericho still never shied away from the wrestling business during EITHER of his breaks. While he wasn't employed by WWE, he still in interviews would put over the company and the people working for it.

Rock talked about his wrestling past when asked, however he was sent to do interviews to promote what ever movie he had coming out, he did his fucking job, you can't shit on him for that, and Jericho needed to embrace his wrestling past more, cause he knew he would eventually run out of money and need to go back at some point

3. Both have been equally busy (albeit Jericho not doing as mainstream stuff as Rock). People act like Jericho sat on his ass while Rock worked, which is bullshit (and those people know it).

Rock was being successful in his movie career, Jericho was making random appearances and shitty VH1 Shows, playing with his band, and hosting game shows, Jericho may have been busy but the work he was doing was earning him enough money to sustain dthe quality of life he had grown accustomed to, unlike the Rock, so as I said before Jericho needed to keep the wrestling door open for when he ran out of money, Rock didn't, he came back cause he wanted to

4. On both his breaks, Jericho never even tried to bury anyone on the roster, because he still respected the people doing it. Rock spending 7 years away, only making an appearance to shit on pretty much the entire roster at the Hall of Fame was a dick move.

My god you are seriously fucking delusional, Rock gave the fans exactly what they wanted, he cut an epic promo in typical Rock like fashion, that was the WHOLE FUCKING POINT OF HIM BEING THERE!!!!, inducting his father and grandfather were the incentives Rock got in exchange, oh and Rock was cutting promo like that through pretty much his entire fucking wrestling career, funny how you never seemed to have a problem with it before

5. As I said in the thread, both had potentially a lot to lose by defending wrestling publicly after Benoit tried to destroy the entire business. Rock ignored wrestling, Jericho defended it. Jericho rebounded pretty fucking fine (his book debuted a few months later on the New York Times Bestseller list), so obviously it didn't hurt him much at all to be associated with WWE at the time.

1.) Pretty sure Benoit wasn't thinking, I'm going to go home kill my wife and kid, then hang myself just so I can destroy the business, the guy was fucked in the head from years of head trauma, not some sort of evil mastermind bent on the world wrestling destruction

2.)Why would Rock comment on it, he didn't have a relationship with Benoit at all, the two feuded like once for a month, that's about the extent of it, Rock had nothing to do with the situation at all, it makes no sense what so ever for him to comment on it, & I'm pretty sure Rock was under contract with Disney at the time, ever think maybe they told Rock to not comment on it as well?, what you want him to do jeopardize his entire post wrestling career so he can comment on the Benoit thing, please that's just beyond selfish

If Chris Jericho spends the next 7 years completely away from wrestling, tries to bury the entire roster at one point, then comes back and tells the wrestling fans that he has always loved them, I'd feel the same way. Thankfully, I highly doubt that will happen (especially the 2nd part).

Rock left for 7 yrs. cause he did what every fucking wrestler wishes to accomplish when they leave the business and that's become success in another field, but unlike anybody else who has ever tried he succeeded, everyone else needs to return to wrestling because they fail at doing what the Rock was able to do, he NEVER ONCE buried the entire roster, you beleive that than you might just very well be the stupidest wrestling fan on the fucking planet, and pretty sure th Rock would never have come back at all if he didn't love the fans, he certainly didn't need the money, unlike say Chris Jericho...
 
Rock's here to reignite the fire that once attracted people to him and aid his fledgling film career. Fine tuning and all that, but the notion that Rock cares about us strikes me as insincere. As such, I feel used. I'll be damned if the guy doesn't sell it well though.

Happy he's back but I sincerely question his motives.

As for Jericho, he's never backed away from wrestling and came out like a trooper during the Benoit mess when nobody wanted to hear his positive words about the industry. He didn't have to do that to keep doors open. But he did anyway. Jericho's got loyalty to the business which makes it easier for me to stomach his returns.
 
Rock's here to reignite the fire that once attracted people to him and aid his fledgling film career. Fine tuning and all that, but the notion that Rock cares about us strikes me as insincere. As such, I feel used. I'll be damned if the guy doesn't sell it well though.

Happy he's back but I sincerely question his motives.

As for Jericho, he's never backed away from wrestling and came out like a trooper during the Benoit mess when nobody wanted to hear his positive words about the industry. He didn't have to do that to keep doors open. But he did anyway. Jericho's got loyalty to the business which makes it easier for me to stomach his returns.

This is a fantastic post.

I'm torn on the issue of how The Rock feels about the WWE audience. On the one hand, he says he loves the WWE and he even has a room in his house to commemorate his time in professional wrestling. On the other hand, he went to Hollywood for seven years and didn't even throw the WWE a bone. I understand he's busy and all that, but a satellite appearance here and there would do the trick.

And CoCo is dead on about Jericho. If The Rock loves professional wrestling, Jericho lives and dies for it. He's just as entitled to take time off as The Rock, but he does a lot better job of showing his love for the WWE by acknowledging it and commenting on it.

I'm happy to see The Rock back, and I'm not even the slightest bit upset with him, but you have to admit that he hasn't exactly shown the WWE that much love. I believe The Rock when he says he loves professional wrestling and the WWE universe, but he has an awful funny way of showing it.
 
As I mentioned in your non spam thread CCM, there are two reasons why Rock is meted out this unfair treatment as compared to Jericho.

1) Jericho has never been out for too long.

2) The Rock is far more popular than Jericho when it comes to popularity. Hence people miss him more than Jericho. I am pretty sure that only a few smarks missed him when Jericho took time off for the first time in 2005.
 
Right on, rattlesnake. Losing Chris Jericho isn't a blow to smarks. They don't even like the guy.
 
Rock has made several sporadic appearances since leaving for Hollywood

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Funny how everyone claims Rock has ignored WWE for the last 7 yrs. yet has made appearances on both Raw & SD! (albeit taped), pretty sure if he was ignore his wrestling roots he wouldn't have anything to do with WWE much less appear on their shows to put over big matches on upcoming PPVs, btw in neither of the 2 videos that I posted did the Rock promote a single thing that he was working on outside of wrestling
 
Right on, rattlesnake. Losing Chris Jericho isn't a blow to smarks. They don't even like the guy.

Jericho is very popular among smarks but the point is that there have always been guys on Jericho's level. In 2005 when he left we did hve guys like Angle, HBK, Christian and Benoit on the roster whom the smarks loved just as much.

There have been very few performers like Rock and that is what makes people, marks and smarks, miss him even more. That eventually translates into hatred.
 
Rock has made several sporadic appearances since leaving for Hollywood

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Funny how everyone claims Rock has ignored WWE for the last 7 yrs. yet has made appearances on both Raw & SD! (albeit taped), pretty sure if he was ignore his wrestling roots he wouldn't have anything to do with WWE much less appear on their shows to put over big matches on upcoming PPVs, btw in neither of the 2 videos that I posted did the Rock promote a single thing that he was working on outside of wrestling
Yet I'm sure they kept WWE fans primed to keep supporting Rock's other career.
 

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