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I mean, yeah, it was nice seeing Ambrose get a win over Rollins on Raw, adding him to the Triple Threat now Fatal Four Way title match. But the more I think about it, the more I'm convinced that the only reason he was even added to the match is because they want to turn him heel by somehow helping Rollins win the match, thus retaining the title. Well if I was WWEI would turn Reigns. Because turning Ambrose heel is more of an upgrade than a downgrade and I wouldn't imagine that that's what WWE wants. The fans will continue to cheer Ambrose despite turning and Reigns already does get booed but will do so even more. But yeah, I was at first thinking that adding Ambrose would make the match more interesting, but then I come to realize that there must be a specific reason he's in the match.

Does anyone else see something coming? Or is it just me.
 
No...

Remember there has been a long term plan to get ALL 3 Shield guys over and to that main event level... Rollins just got there first. With any stable there is a "must get over", a "Want to get over" and a "If we can get over" guy... when they debuted, make no mistake Ambrose was the "must" of the equation, Reigns the "want" and Rollins the "bonus"...

Over time things have gone differently but Ambrose is in this match because they want him in and around that title picture going forward. He might even get it this time... maybe not for long but it's entirely possible that he is the one who can take advantage of the inevitable Kane turn on Rollins.

from 1997 onwards they were pushing 3 guys... Austin, Rock and Trips... all got there within 2 years but not all got there the same time but got there within 15 months of the first... Austin and Rock got it within 6 months of each other and that could easily be the plan again... only this time Regins is the one to wait slightly longer as they want HIS win to be at Mania... Ambrose can win it now or in a few months and it be as valuable as Rock winning at Survivor Series was...

Next year will be headlined by a Shield triple thread... that much is a given by now... so that means Ambrose has to be "up there" and begin his push the same way Rollins did, about this time of year... Reigns doesn't need that... he can win the Rumble or similar...
 
I mean, yeah, it was nice seeing Ambrose get a win over Rollins on Raw, adding him to the Triple Threat now Fatal Four Way title match. But the more I think about it, the more I'm convinced that the only reason he was even added to the match is because they want to turn him heel by somehow helping Rollins win the match, thus retaining the title. Well if I was WWEI would turn Reigns. Because turning Ambrose heel is more of an upgrade than a downgrade and I wouldn't imagine that that's what WWE wants. The fans will continue to cheer Ambrose despite turning and Reigns already does get booed but will do so even more. But yeah, I was at first thinking that adding Ambrose would make the match more interesting, but then I come to realize that there must be a specific reason he's in the match.

Does anyone else see something coming? Or is it just me.
I thought about the same too. I was wondering whether its the plan to turn Dean Ambrose into a heel when Kane said "Trust me. I got a plan." But I don't think it as a wise idea. Albeit its not dreadful but it certainly isn't a great idea.

I guess only Roman Reigns or Randy Orton will be feuding against Seth Rollins after the Payback which will potentially lead to no storyline for the other one and Dean Ambrose. If Dean gets pinned, then Randy or Roman can blame him for involving in the match and deprived the chance of winning the title.

This will lead to Randy vs Dean or Roman vs Dean and they can carry this feud till Money in the Bank.

Cheers!!
 
Dean Ambrose is there to be pinned by Seth Rollins. Simple as that. This has nothing to do with having the Shield out front, and all to do with making Seth Rollins look strong, while protecting Randy and Reigns.
 
Dean Ambrose is there to be pinned by Seth Rollins. Simple as that. This has nothing to do with having the Shield out front, and all to do with making Seth Rollins look strong, while protecting Randy and Reigns.

Got it all figured out, eh? Yeah, right... so does everybody else...

As for OP, I wouldn't mind seeing a Dean turn, but how would it make sense? WHY would Dean Ambrose help Seth win the title after everything they've been through? I assume he'd want the title for himself. I think coming out of Payback, we're going to have Roman vs Seth and Dean vs Randy... it would be a logical first step towards building Ambrose to Mania.
 
It very well could be that WWE plans to turn somebody Heel but I don't think that was the main factor in adding Ambrose to the match.

1) My first thought is that he is out there to introduce him into the Main Event scene in away that he doesn't have to win to be relevant. He can be the "fall guy" to any of the three other "competitors" and he still looks relevant because he was able to pin the WWE CHAMP and be placed into the match.

2) If he is pinned, or someway causes Rollins to drop the belt without being pinned, it doesn't harm Rollins momentum any & could set up a feud to help keep Ambrose in the main event light.

3) Now to the main reason I think WWE added Ambrose - for over a month WWE has been advertising (at the arena as well as on TV in the area) a Triple Threat match involving Orton vs Reigns vs Rollins & when the vote was announced on Raw & the Tripple Threat won it made the WWE look shady (at least to some). So if they can throw a curve like this then people will forget how dumb they looked having fans "vote" plus it gives them MAJOR flexibility in the outcome of the match.
 
I can actually see Roman spearing Dean by mistake leading to Seth getting the pin. Both remain faces but there will be questions coming out of Payback with regards to the 2 remaining SHIELD bros.
Anyways, why turn a very over Dean Ambrose anyway whilst leaving Roman as a babyface? Doesnt make much sense to me whatsoever.
 
As for OP, I wouldn't mind seeing a Dean turn, but how would it make sense? WHY would Dean Ambrose help Seth win the title after everything they've been through?

Well yeah, it wouldn't make any sense at all. But then again, almost nothing in WWE has made sense as of late (Kane and Rollins laying down for each other, having Paige in a fucking Christmas movie and if you think about it, it's just so against her character, New Day derailing a great title reign, New Day being involved in the opening segment on Raw this past Monday, Triple H and Stephanie not being on TV very much when they should be and so on)
 
As for OP, I wouldn't mind seeing a Dean turn, but how would it make sense? WHY would Dean Ambrose help Seth win the title after everything they've been through? I assume he'd want the title for himself. I think coming out of Payback, we're going to have Roman vs Seth and Dean vs Randy... it would be a logical first step towards building Ambrose to Mania.

I'm NOT for or against the OP's idea.

Given the current uncertainty over the Intercontinental Title, creative could have Ambrose strike a deal with Seth in exchange for the Intercontinental Title. I suppose that would work... but then what? How would the roaster be booked going forward? That, I have no idea.

I'm usually better at complaining than coming up with ideas... lol...
 
I don't see anyone, except Kane, turning anything right now. Maybe Kane goes Full Face, but I don't expect a heel turn because of all three of Seth Rollins opponents have some degree of issue with either him, The Authority, or both.

Ambrose makes the least sense due to the fact that after everything that he's been through with Rollins, you're going to join the same dude who (figuratively speaking) stabbed you in the back? But at the same time, turning him heel also makes the most sense because Randy Orton was screwed royally by Rollins out of The Authority and had his finisher banned and turned against him by Rollins; and because Reigns... is Reigns.

Then again, you could have RR turn Full Blown Heel winning the match without him joining The Authority. How? I don't know, and I think that's the dilemma that Creative has to figure out in less than 11 days. But if I had to think about it, I'd find someway to get him a minor storyline injury that he absolutely must take 2 or 3 weeks off from (flu-like symptoms or some other bs injury) and continue making subtle tweaks to his gimmick from then on.
 
Got it all figured out, eh? Yeah, right... so does everybody else...

As for OP, I wouldn't mind seeing a Dean turn, but how would it make sense? WHY would Dean Ambrose help Seth win the title after everything they've been through? I assume he'd want the title for himself. I think coming out of Payback, we're going to have Roman vs Seth and Dean vs Randy... it would be a logical first step towards building Ambrose to Mania.

The only reason I could see Dean's heel turn would be because he's an unhinged maniac, with no rhyme or reason for his behavior. It could be that he's decided that causing chaos at the main event level is more important to him than stopping Rollins from being a champion. I posted in another thread, but he could turn on Orton, leading to a strong Orton/Ambrose program through the summer, leaving Rollins and Reigns to have a summer program.
 
I had a fleeting thought about maybe the former Shield members coming back together with Seth at the helm as champ. Rather than just corporate dirty work guys they'd be actually valued as the authority's new golden boys. I guess I was think they just destroy Randy and then Seth getting the pin.

How pissed would people be to see Dean Ambrose coming out to the ring in a suit?

That just made me think of Steve Austin pretending to join Vince. It'd be funny if they did that with Dean.

Have Seth be doing a post Payback Raw speech in the ring being all cocky about bring the Shield members back together. Dean and Roman standing behind Seth and Dean takes off his suit jacket and Seth turns around and Dean takes him out. Crowd pops for Dean. Roman is just standing by watching. Crowd thinks Roman has turned on Seth too and then bam! Roman takes Dean out. Crowd boos Roman.

I don't see any of that happening but if you want to keep Dean in the main event scene that would be a decent way to do it.

Really I have no idea what the plan is. That makes me interested. Also this feud did a very rare thing. It has made me interested in Randy Orton.

I look forward to the main event to see what happens.
 
I mean, yeah, it was nice seeing Ambrose get a win over Rollins on Raw, adding him to the Triple Threat now Fatal Four Way title match. But the more I think about it, the more I'm convinced that the only reason he was even added to the match is because they want to turn him heel by somehow helping Rollins win the match, thus retaining the title. Well if I was WWEI would turn Reigns. Because turning Ambrose heel is more of an upgrade than a downgrade and I wouldn't imagine that that's what WWE wants. The fans will continue to cheer Ambrose despite turning and Reigns already does get booed but will do so even more. But yeah, I was at first thinking that adding Ambrose would make the match more interesting, but then I come to realize that there must be a specific reason he's in the match.

Does anyone else see something coming? Or is it just me.

Yeah I could see something screwy happening. Ambrose is over and Reigns is too but sadly the way WWE books things, it seems like there could only be one top face at a time in the main event.

Ambrose as a heel would shake things up. You can only do Orton/Reigns vs. Rollins/Show/Kane only so many times.
 
I mean, yeah, it was nice seeing Ambrose get a win over Rollins on Raw, adding him to the Triple Threat now Fatal Four Way title match. But the more I think about it, the more I'm convinced that the only reason he was even added to the match is because they want to turn him heel by somehow helping Rollins win the match, thus retaining the title. Well if I was WWEI would turn Reigns. Because turning Ambrose heel is more of an upgrade than a downgrade and I wouldn't imagine that that's what WWE wants. The fans will continue to cheer Ambrose despite turning and Reigns already does get booed but will do so even more. But yeah, I was at first thinking that adding Ambrose would make the match more interesting, but then I come to realize that there must be a specific reason he's in the match.

Does anyone else see something coming? Or is it just me.

I think it's more likely he was added to the match to be the one who takes the pin. Reigns needs to come out of this match unscathed and Orton probably shouldn't get beat in back to back ppvs either.
 
Face Ambrose is way better than heel Ambrose. I like the personality he has now. He's strange, reckless and can be funny too. He was great value in the contract signing thing on Smackdown this week. Putting the table in the corner and going 'well we all knew it was gonna end this way eventually'. first time i've legit laughed at WWE in a long ol time
 

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