A Stereotype Even I Think Is Offensive

[Y 2 Jake]

Notice something? All of these gentlemen have the same gimmick. That being the happy go lucky black guy gimmick. It seems strange to me that in a promotion with very few black people, they present four with the exact same demeanor.

Maybe I'm wrong, but this is lazy booking and somewhat wrong.

 

[The Roid Rage]

Yeah I get it. Shad and JTG are like 2pac and Suge Knight or something, R-Truth is DMX, and Kofi Kingston is Bob Marley off the pot. It is horribly disgraceful and yeah, they are all like walking stereotypes. But, take a look at the one who isn't and see how bland he is, Shelton Benjamin. Nothing interesting at all. I almost wish they would do an angle where he starts smoking crack in Harlem with R-Truth, and starts robbing liquor stores or something, anything to make him interesting. Why not just let them be themselves? Obviously that has worked in the past with other guys, why not try it out? Maybe Bobby Lashley is why? Obviously he was supposed to be Black Lesnar, but aside from that was just himself, and unfortunately himself is boring as shit.

 

[Rich]

WWE has never done much with black Superstars, the most recent exception to this is obviously Booker T, King of the Ring, and won every title in the company as well as harping on about being WCW Champion 5 times.

 

[FallenAngelV2]

Notice something? All of these gentlemen have the same gimmick. That being the happy go lucky black guy gimmick. It seems strange to me that in a promotion with very few black people, they present four with the exact same demeanor.

Maybe I'm wrong, but this is lazy booking and somewhat wrong.

Are you kidding me?! The only one of those gimmicks that can be considered "offensive" is Cryme Tyme. Yes a team that likes to steal stuff and then sell for "money, money, yea yea" is stereotypical. Although, I'm mostly offended by the spelling of their name and WWE's obsession with taking I and replacing it with Y (ie. Rhyno, Mysterio, ect.)

But I cannot agree with you on the other 2 gimmicks. First, Kofi Kingston is somewhat stereotypical for a Jamaican person, I'll give you that, but that is what his gimmick is. He's a dude from Jamaica. What do you want him to be? An angry militant from Jamaica. Shoot, if I lived in Jamaica, I would be happy go lucky too!

Secondly, you want these guys to just be themselves, well what do you think Ron Killings is doing. He really is a rapper! Plus, his current gimmick didn't start in WWE, it began in TNA. If WWE is guilty of anything its using ideas that began in their "rival company." Although guilty may be a poor choice of word. Perhaps smart would work better.

 

[THE Madcap]

Are you kidding me?! The only one of those gimmicks that can be considered "offensive" is Cryme Tyme. Yes a team that likes to steal stuff and then sell for "money, money, yea yea" is stereotypical.

what we're forgetting though is that they are just characters, actors. A regular black guy gimmick would be boring and to get these guys over, they would need a point of difference. The Cryme Tyme stuff can sometimes be pretty funny and entertaining, plus it would make an easy heel transformation to portray hardcore thugs. Imagine JTG as a heel... that would be the new X-Pac heat!

Although, I'm mostly offended by the spelling of their name and WWE's obsession with taking I and replacing it with Y (ie. Rhyno, Mysterio, ect.)

Why is this annoying? isn't this how Americans spell stuff to be cool?

First, Kofi Kingston is somewhat stereotypical for a Jamaican person, I'll give you that, but that is what his gimmick is. He's a dude from Jamaica. What do you want him to be? An angry militant from Jamaica. Shoot, if I lived in Jamaica, I would be happy go lucky too!

You've never been to Jamaica have you...? Yes the touristy bits are beautiful and the weather is ace, but what people seem to forget, Jamaica is a 3rd world country. Everyone is poor and everyone is angry about it. Crime is disgustingly high, people are ruthless and the mortality rate from gun crime in parts of Kingston is higher than that of Harlem.

Secondly, you want these guys to just be themselves, well what do you think Ron Killings is doing. He really is a rapper! Plus, his current gimmick didn't start in WWE, it began in TNA. If WWE is guilty of anything its using ideas that began in their "rival company." Although guilty may be a poor choice of word. Perhaps smart would work better.

Ron Killings didn't rap at all when he was teamed with the Road Dogg then eh?

 

[Steve_G87]

Secondly, you want these guys to just be themselves, well what do you think Ron Killings is doing. He really is a rapper! Plus, his current gimmick didn't start in WWE, it began in TNA. If WWE is guilty of anything its using ideas that began in their "rival company." Although guilty may be a poor choice of word. Perhaps smart would work better.

I think you'll find the gimmick started in WWE in 1999 when he was K-Kwik, and although there have been tweaks to his gimmick along the way, in escense it's the same gimmick, so WWE didn't use any TNA ideas there.

 

[jericho3150]

Notice something? All of these gentlemen have the same gimmick. That being the happy go lucky black guy gimmick. It seems strange to me that in a promotion with very few black people, they present four with the exact same demeanor. Maybe I'm wrong, but this is lazy booking and somewhat wrong.​

No not at all... Although they are all faces currently they all have they're own gimmicks. The Rapper. The Island Dude, and the Stealin Cheatin Thugs.. The WWE can only go so far as far as giving them something to do they need to develope the more subtle parts of their characters that make them different and make them stand out. Where I dont think WWE has always done the best job pushing black superstars I really feel the only justifiable one to be offended by might be Virgil.


As for something you find offensive... REALLY? I really hope not.. cause many people seem to be caught up in this sense of "false outrage"..Relax its only wrestling.​

 

[Y 2 Jake]

Are you kidding me?!

Shh.

The only one of those gimmicks that can be considered "offensive" is Cryme Tyme.

As a black man, I find it very offensive.

Yes a team that likes to steal stuff and then sell for "money, money, yea yea" is stereotypical.

Yeah, it's wrong. Especially considering they're faces.

Although, I'm mostly offended by the spelling of their name and WWE's obsession with taking I and replacing it with Y (ie. Rhyno, Mysterio, ect.)

Question, how do you spell centre?

But I cannot agree with you on the other 2 gimmicks. First, Kofi Kingston is somewhat stereotypical for a Jamaican person, I'll give you that, but that is what his gimmick is. He's a dude from Jamaica. What do you want him to be? An angry militant from Jamaica.

That sounds intresting, actually.

Shoot, if I lived in Jamaica, I would be happy go lucky too!

Yeah, until you ran out of weed and saw what the place was really like.

Secondly, you want these guys to just be themselves, well what do you think Ron Killings is doing.

Being overly friendly with children.

He really is a rapper!

He plays the part of a bad rapper very well.

Plus, his current gimmick didn't start in WWE, it began in TNA. If WWE is guilty of anything its using ideas that began in their "rival company." Although guilty may be a poor choice of word. Perhaps smart would work better.

I'm more surprised he has the same theme he did in TNA. I was shocked, quite frankly.

 

[ztwhite]

I'm not sure I understand what the problem is at all ??!!

Isn't society built around sterotypes (at least here in the states) ??

If I would have met an individual from Jamaica while in college, I would have asked about the weed and what it's like, not about the poverty outside of the touristy parts. Would you rather tham have Kofi Kingston walk around acting like Sally Struthers, begging people to feed the poor and hungry for just pennies a day ??

R-Truth just sucks !!!! His gimmick is stale and incredibly boring. I never thought I would say this, but he should sit down with Cena and have the man explain how a rapper's gimmick should work. IMO, I don't think WWE changed it because they wanted to capitalize on the success Cena had with the "rap audience", but they chose a piss poor individual to carry it. BUT... I don't think it's sterotypical - 98% of rappers are black.

Wouldn't it be counter-productive to have a team named Cryme Tyme, and not have them be a team that uses crime to their advantage ??

The WWE is simply trying to capitalize on every type of paying customer - white, black, asian, indian, boy, girl, man, woman, etc... Black people want to see people they can relate to... not necessarily with crime, smoking pot or rapping... but I don't think there are too many black people (or white people for that matter) that are two-time all-american wrestlers or the world's strongest man ??!!

 

[huntmaster86]

I would like to point out it is pure racial profiling, and I see y2jakes point. In any other business or industry, it would be called racist. Saying that, I don't think you could have a white tag team doing the things that Cryme Tyme do and get away with it. They'd be pure heels.

Saying that (as a white person) I would really like to see a white man stereotype portrayed from a black perspective on WWE. It would just be really interesting, lol.

Also, does anyone know if there are any black people who work backstage for WWE, in creative or otherwise? I've noticed for a long time that there has been a lack of pushes for black wrestlers. The Rock and Booker are the only ones I can remember off the top of my head, and even hen, with Booker, WCW made him. Even Ron Simmons, former WCW champion, goes to WWF, and although a good storyline with the Nation of Domination, he only won 3 tag titles in what, 13 years? If someone called it institutional racism, I wouldn't disagree. I mean, what does this say about the WWE product, and also what messages does it convey to the PG-13 audience?

 

[gers09]

Although, I'm mostly offended by the spelling of their name and WWE's obsession with taking I and replacing it with Y (ie. Rhyno, Mysterio, ect.)

this is NOT a wwe obsession rhyno started in ecw with that name Mysterio name of rey's uncle wwe did not take the name and change the i to y it happend before the were in wwe

 

[Saeros]

I think its shocking how the term racism is bounded about these days.
It is also shocking how on every message board i go to, the only thing people moan about and say is "racist" is to do with a black person. Ive never seen one post made about Kenzo Suzuki who was the stereotypical non smiling japanese guy with the wife who basically lived for him. Why did no one bring that up?

Why does no one bring up the fact that some Italians may find Santino Marellas gimmick quite insulting? With his stereotypical speech and opera theme tune.

Eddie Guerrero anyone? Lying, cheating and stealing and talking like a stereotypical mexican? Not one topic did i see about that being racist.

Kerwin White? aka Chavo Guerrero. There was a reason his characters second name was WHITE

I didnt even see many topics about Muhammed Hassan, which IMO is the most risque character WWE has ever portrayed. All i ever saw about Daivari being carried out of the arena like a martyr was "oh my gosh how could they do that on the day of the 7/7 London bombings...nothing about how Muslims might be offended by it.

All in all, it happens, get over it. Have a sense of humour. This is the reason why some aspects of society is so boring and bland nowadays. Because you have to be careful about what you say/do because it might offend a person of a particular race. I myself am mixed race, i have had to deal with racism from black people and white people.

But i do not find any of these gimmicks offensive. And i believe that if you do, you need to get off your high horse, look around you, and see that to be honest, its not quite a stereotype.

Fact is, a lot of my friends act like Cryme time portray their character. A lot of my community act like it. So because its being portrayed on tv (quite accuratly) thats racist? No, its not racist, its real life. Some members of the black community just dont see it that way though, they'd rather sit there looking for anything thats "racist" and bitch and moan about it. They think they're not like that in anyway, and they;re being portrayed wrongly. Well heres a fact, where im from, Cryme time are EXTREMELY accuratly portrayed, except most of my friends act like jackasses and think their funny, Cryme time however are not jackasses and actually are funny.

 

[Y 2 Jake]

I think its shocking how the term racism is bounded about these days.

Almost as shocking as the actual racism.

It is also shocking how on every message board i go to, the only thing people moan about and say is "racist" is to do with a black person.

It is, mostly.

Ive never seen one post made about Kenzo Suzuki who was the stereotypical non smiling japanese guy with the wife who basically lived for him. Why did no one bring that up?

Because he had a white complexion?

Why does no one bring up the fact that some Italians may find Santino Marellas gimmick quite insulting? With his stereotypical speech and opera theme tune.

Italians are humourless, even the Germans laugh at how up serious they take themselves.

Eddie Guerrero anyone? Lying, cheating and stealing and talking like a stereotypical mexican? Not one topic did i see about that being racist.

You're new, I made that thread.

But I think you're struggling to diffirenciate beween shit racism and entertaining racism.

Kerwin White? aka Chavo Guerrero. There was a reason his characters second name was WHITE

I blame his kin.

Jacke Black, rolly polly, comedian with a racist surname.

I didnt even see many topics about Muhammed Hassan, which IMO is the most risque character WWE has ever portrayed.

Not recently, I admit.

All i ever saw about Daivari being carried out of the arena like a martyr was "oh my gosh how could they do that on the day of the 7/7 London bombings...nothing about how Muslims might be offended by it.

To be fair, it was taped on a Tuesday and it was really intresting.

All in all, it happens, get over it. Have a sense of humour.

You've giot to laugh about it, haven't you!

This is the reason why some aspects of society is so boring and bland nowadays.

Yeah, the fuckin' P.C. brigade. I want to be racist where I want, When I want.

Because you have to be careful about what you say/do because it might offend a person of a particular race.

White p[ople seem to take racism aimed towards them quite well.

I myself am mixed race, i have had to deal with racism from black people and white people.

I'm going to leave this one alone.

Fact is, a lot of my friends act like Cryme time portray their character.

Shop them to the cops.

A lot of my community act like it.

A minority

So because its being portrayed on tv (quite accuratly) thats racist?

Kinda.

No, its not racist, its real life.

Where is the white thief? Where is the Robin Hood character?

Some members of the black community just dont see it that way though, they'd rather sit there looking for anything thats "racist" and bitch and moan about it.

Kinda racist.

They think they're not like that in anyway, and they;re being portrayed wrongly. Well heres a fact, where im from, Cryme time are EXTREMELY accuratly portrayed, except most of my friends act like jackasses and think their funny,

Yeah, I don't think I like you.

Cryme time however are not jackasses and actually are funny.

It's been confirmed.

 

[Dsquire]

First time poster, long time reader and wrestling fan. Where do I begin, just because someone highlights African American sterotypes doesn't mean that other generalizations are justifiable. But let's face facts, the WWE (F) has had a history of portraying African American in a negative light i.e Junkyard Dog, Saba Simba, Kamala, Slick, Bad News Brown (For God Sake His Move Was The Ghetto Blaster). And for those who interject with the term "get over it", its hard when individuals see these sterotypes and believe that a large portion of African Americans are thieves, listen to rap music, or ex criminals or that Africa is one big jungle where we run around with Spears.You may have the mental capacity to separate fantasy from reality but a large portion of individuals do not! Why do we have to be overt characters to get over? Was it really necessary for Shelton Benjamin to dye his hair blond? Or what about pairing him with a mammy character? What's wrong with just a "regular" black character? Until you walk in our shoes you'll never know how it "REALLY IS" no matter how much BET you watch...

 

[Dre Guevara]

the first time I seen Cryme Tyme, I can't even lie, as a Black man, I was offended, & still am 2 some degree.
MVP's gimmick is cool, I like how he began as the pompous athlete i.e; Terrell Owens that began 2 humble himself.
I had'nt seen Shelton Benjamin in a while prior 2 him becoming the "Gold Standard" I swear, when I did, I thought he was trying 2 be the singer Sisqo on roids.
Kofi's would REALLY take off if Vince wasn't on that "Rated PG" trip, & had him as a weed smokin' wrestler a la RVD, but I 4get there R babies in the audience who don't need 2 see that.
as 4 the TRUTH, that's what it is, R is the TRUTH. Vince needs 2 give this cat a serious push, actually I can see him & Kofi as a tag team, matter of fact, bring back the Nation of Domination & put all of these cats in it & make Mark Henry the leader.

 

[Dre Guevara]

@ Dsquire,

outta all of the former Black superstars U mentioned, Slick has 2 be the worst, I always thought he was funny, especially with that "Jive Soul Bro" video he did, but as I got older & saw that video recently. it's crazy how U look @ these characters in hindsight & see that their gimmicks made them look like fools.

I won't even speak on when the One Man Gang became Akeem.

 

[Total Impact]

As a black man, I like all the gimmicks except Kofi as I wouldn't count him as "Black." He is Jamaican so he is on another level of the black food chain. AS for the African Americans in the WWE, I like Cryme Tyme gimmick, but wish they would be more thuggish. I mean really should black people who claim to be thugs, be getting beat up by punk ass white boys and hanging out with the want to be black white boy in John Cena. I mean wrestling is a walking stereotype and the WWE had a chance to build up two monsters, but instead we get two black guys that make black guys look bad.

As for R-Truth, I just hate the name, but love the gimmick of him rapping, but they need to figure out what they are going to do with him, either push him or release him. Hell make him join up with Cryme Tyme, add Shelton Benjaimin and you have one hell of a group.

But as far as black wrestlers are concern, right now the WWE is doing better than TNA with Black Machismo and Apollo Creed.

 

[jellmoo]

I think that there really needs to be a disconnect from race and gimmick. What I mean is that a person's ethnicity should have relatively little to do with that person's gimmick for the most part.

For example: MVP is a black superstar, but his gimmick has next to nothing to do with him being black. It's not particularly relevant other than the fact that he IS black. I don't think that people say "hey look, it's that black wrestler that's cocky and thinks he's the best". His character, while encompassing his race, does not rely on it.

The same cannot be said for superstars such as Cryme Tyme, Kofi Kingston or R-Truth, which is a shame. Cryme Tyme, for me, is a failure as a gimmick. They've made being black a basis for a sterotypical gimmick, which is just sad.

Kofi Kingston is "Jamaican". The problem here is that's all he is. The entirety of his gimmick is that the guy is from Jamaica. Not only is that incredibly weak, it's lazy on the part of the creative team.

R-Truth raps on the way to the ring. The same song. Every. Single. Time. My problem here is that it's old, lazy and not particularly daring. He gets no interview time, a stagnant push, and hasn't had any opportunity to show that he can do anything other than 1 rap, dance around, and add a "corkscrew" to half his moveset. Make him a heel, put him in a suit and make him Edge's hitman. At least that would be daring and not a tired gimmick that hasn't gone anywhere in years.

WWE needs to get away from making race so integral to a character. I cringe every time Chavo comes out to that dreadful music wearing his Warrior poncho. Same goes for Santino's opera music (although at least in that case it's so obviously intended to be over the top you can almost excuse it).

Creative needs to give character's less obvious hooks so that the audience can care them. Cheering for the "black criminals", the "little hispanic guy" or the "dude from Jamaica" isn't gonna cut it.

 

[Dsquire]

AS for the African Americans in the WWE, I like Cryme Tyme gimmick, but wish they would be more thuggish. I mean really should black people who claim to be thugs, be getting beat up by punk ass white boys and hanging out with the want to be black white boy in John Cena. .

1."More Thuggish"? No Sir, we need less thugs.That gimmick is atrocious right up there wit Men on a Mission...

2.And what exactly is being black? Being Urban is a better term because I'm black and John Cena acts nothing like me (vice versa) not being overly sensitive just stating facts

 

[Jack-Hammer]

I have to say that I don't find them the least bit offensive. Vince isn't doing anything that every other major media forum hasn't been doing for decades. In fact, Vince's stereotypes are significantly watered down compared to what I've seen.

The music, film and television media have portrayed black men as thugs, hustlers, pimps, pushers and simple trash for a good many years. Even influential black men and women within these industries do little to curb those stereotypes. If anything, they cultivate them, they encourage them to a far greater extent than Vince McMahon does.

 

[PBA_Sensation]

First of all, the only black wrestlers in the WWE that are portrayed to be black...well is no one. What is "black"?

-Kofi Kingston: A guy from Jamaica who happens to to be black. His gimmick is not of anything but a fun loving guy from Jamaica, with no reference to his race

-MVP: wrestlings version of Terrell Owens...just another black guy.

-Cryme Tyme: closest to being "black" because they are portrayed as hoodlums who somehow are faces. I like Cryme Tyme and find them entertaining, but I don't see how they are faces. If they steal all the time, pawn stuff off, and do what they do...how is that cool? I remember their promo videos, it was them beating up cops and stealing from people. No idea how they got booked as faces with the gimmick, but oh well. They are supposed to be guys from the hood...or in most your minds "the typical black guys"

-Mark Henry: No racism here. Maybe when he was sexual chocolate?

-Shelton Benjamin: No racism

-The Colons: Just a couple of Caribbean brothers

-Chavo: Now this is a sterotype. His whole wrestling existence has been one. Kerwin White...

-Jimmy Wang Yang: Same thing as Chavo...he is an asian cowboy. Meant to be funny

-Santino: Over the top stereotype...meant to be funny, which most people agree

-R-Truth: SHUT THE FUCK UP ON THIS BEING RACIST OR STEREOTYPICAL. HIS CHARACTER IS HIM IN REAL LIFE...GET OVER IT

- Kung Fu Naki: A Santino type...over the top, and hilarious

- Teddy Long: Surprised no one EVER mentioned him. Not quite a stereotype, but if you didnt like Slick, why dont you like Teddy? Same thing just about

-Ezekial Jackson: Just another bodyguard guy...who happens to be black. Gee, you never see that happen...ever. Just about anyone you see has a black bodyguard.

All in all, this racist and stereotype thing is stupid. GET OVER IT. They arent going to make an ethnic guy appeal to EVERYONE. And for those saying that Cryme Tyme is a racial profile of black people, then what are the black doctors? Exception of the rule? They are not a stereotype of black people, they are a stereotype of people from the hood...they could have done it with guys who were white, but they wouldnt be taken seriously. They could have used mexican guys too, but we all saw what Los Boricuas had goin on in the 90's.

 

[Louie Lips]

Although, I'm mostly offended by the spelling of their name and WWE's obsession with taking I and replacing it with Y (ie. Rhyno, Mysterio, ect.)

The word "mystery" is spelt with a Y so its not really changing it. Anyway... I don't think its a stereotype as all of those wrestlers are different. Kofi is playing a happy Jamaican, while Cryme Tyme are stereotypical brooklyn black people, and R-Truth is just a black face wrestler so I don't see the problem.

 

[Muttley]

First of all...am I the ONLY one that thinks that Kofi Kingston is Bob Charlie from Nintendo's Punch Out? They make the same sound at the beginning of matches, BOOM BOOM BOOM...

As far as the racism goes, oh yeah...it's there 100%...maybe not as much now, since they are on this bogus PG kick but, I mean, I felt awkward and offended when ECW started calling Mark Henry the "Silverback Gorilla"...I mean, come on, that's pretty bad.

I think that the WWE likes to see how far they can push the envelope with races and stereotypes...look at Muhammed Hassan, when he was going to follow through with some kind of attack on Smackdown?

And does anyone else remember when Vince dropped the N word to Booker T backstage? When I heard him say that to him, my reaction was simply

 

[The Instant Classic91]

First of all I find it funny that this forum, and Y 2 Jake especially was wanting a white supremacist gimmick from (a)dolph ziggler, but I digress.

Yes this is a thought that has crossed my mind a thousand times before, with the noted exception of MVP every black man that has graced the wwe is either a happy go lucky chirpy thief/rapper/weed smoker or a militant african rebel that missed the NOD boat.

Bug my one major issue is with Kofi's gimmick, first point the man is not jamaican, he is from Ghana, now to be fair to the WWE Kofi was billed from Jamaica in the indies before he hit the WWE, but in my opinion it opitimises the situation many foreign wrestlers face, as 70% of americans think africa is somewhere in the south of detroit and clearly have no idea where ghana is they're forced to step back and say, "Fuck it, lets shit over my heritage and claim to be some weed smoking, Bob Marley wannabe so people will give a shit about me"


God americans piss me off.

 

[Dsquire]

First of all, the only black wrestlers in the WWE that are portrayed to be black...well is no one. What is "black"?

-Kofi Kingston: A guy from Jamaica who happens to to be black. His gimmick is not of anything but a fun loving guy from Jamaica, with no reference to his race

-MVP: wrestlings version of Terrell Owens...just another black guy.

-Cryme Tyme: closest to being "black" because they are portrayed as hoodlums who somehow are faces. I like Cryme Tyme and find them entertaining, but I don't see how they are faces. If they steal all the time, pawn stuff off, and do what they do...how is that cool? I remember their promo videos, it was them beating up cops and stealing from people. No idea how they got booked as faces with the gimmick, but oh well. They are supposed to be guys from the hood...or in most your minds "the typical black guys"

-Mark Henry: No racism here. Maybe when he was sexual chocolate?

-Shelton Benjamin: No racism

-The Colons: Just a couple of Caribbean brothers

-Chavo: Now this is a sterotype. His whole wrestling existence has been one. Kerwin White...

-Jimmy Wang Yang: Same thing as Chavo...he is an asian cowboy. Meant to be funny

-Santino: Over the top stereotype...meant to be funny, which most people agree

-R-Truth: SHUT THE FUCK UP ON THIS BEING RACIST OR STEREOTYPICAL. HIS CHARACTER IS HIM IN REAL LIFE...GET OVER IT

- Kung Fu Naki: A Santino type...over the top, and hilarious

- Teddy Long: Surprised no one EVER mentioned him. Not quite a stereotype, but if you didnt like Slick, why dont you like Teddy? Same thing just about

-Ezekial Jackson: Just another bodyguard guy...who happens to be black. Gee, you never see that happen...ever. Just about anyone you see has a black bodyguard.

All in all, this racist and stereotype thing is stupid. GET OVER IT. They arent going to make an ethnic guy appeal to EVERYONE. And for those saying that Cryme Tyme is a racial profile of black people, then what are the black doctors? Exception of the rule? They are not a stereotype of black people, they are a stereotype of people from the hood...they could have done it with guys who were white, but they wouldnt be taken seriously. They could have used mexican guys too, but we all saw what Los Boricuas had goin on in the 90's.

You make some valid points but overall your logic is flawed. For example, Cyrme Tyme is stereotype of people from the "hood". I lived in the "hood" along with many of my friends and we never looted, wore gold teeth and used broken English so pervasively. Like I said, in order for you to comment for you to have a relevant stance on stereotypes, you have to know the culture, other than that you are simply a spectator who knows half the story. And like I said previously, its easy to say "Get Over it" if you are not affected by it personally. I do agree with the Jackhammer that this is nothing new, but does that mean Vince has to follow suite? Doesn't sound to like thats revolutionizing entertainment at all....