A random thought on the Royal Rumble

[thebigbadfox]

Just sitting here thinking about the upcoming royal rumble and how excited I am to be going to a huge ppv.
Everyone seems set that roman reigns, Daniel Bryan (if he can be back), Ambrose, etc are the front runners for the win.
How about Dolph Ziggler? I am not a huge Ziggler fan but boy are they pushing him right now and do you think he has any chance to win the rumble? And if not him are there any other not being thought or talked about potentials out there?

 

[FitFinlay4Life]

Here's a random thought that's been reoccurring to me for some time now and has actually intensified after the Survivor Series - the Undertaker for the Royal Rumble win.

Imagine this, last two men in the Rumble - Taker & Sting. Triple H dirty Joe's Sting out of the view of the Taker (setting up Sting vs Trips at Mania). Taker eliminates Sting and goes into a redemption match against Lesnar. Sting and Taker then meet at SummerSlam for the belt due to Taker feeling his Rumble win was tainted.

 

[TheICChampion]

Well, I don't see him winning it, however it's a very likely possibility he'll be in there for a long time, and perhaps even Final 4. I see the Final 4 being Reigns, Ambrose, Ziggler and either Bryan, Ryback, or Batista. It really all depends on whether or not they're going all out with Lesnar and having him keep the title until 'Mania.

 

[thebigbadfox]

Here's a random thought that's been reoccurring to me for some time now and has actually intensified after the Survivor Series - the Undertaker for the Royal Rumble win.

Imagine this, last two men in the Rumble - Taker & Sting. Triple H dirty Joe's Sting out of the view of the Taker (setting up Sting vs Trips at Mania). Taker eliminates Sting and goes into a redemption match against Lesnar. Sting and Taker then meet at SummerSlam for the belt due to Taker feeling his Rumble win was tainted.

Sorry do not see any of this happening! Undertaker won't work a major program that long.... I would love to see him challenge for the title and retire as champion next night on raw but I do not see it happening.

 

[thebigbadfox]

Well, I don't see him winning it, however it's a very likely possibility he'll be in there for a long time, and perhaps even Final 4. I see the Final 4 being Reigns, Ambrose, Ziggler and either Bryan, Ryback, or Batista. It really all depends on whether or not they're going all out with Lesnar and having him keep the title until 'Mania.

I def see him in the final four.... just thinking the likely (batista/delrio/cena) over the years always wins... a left field choice would be a nice different ending.

 

[bradland012]

I agree that having a choice that's completely out in left field winning would be nice to have. I doubt it would happen this year if Lesnar stays the champ.

 

[Aquaman6686]

Ziggler should be the guy to win the Royal Rumble and go on to beat Lesnar for the title, simply because he's the most over babyface in the company. But it won't happen. The Powers That Be have their hearts set on Roman Reigns, and I think they see Dean Ambrose as their backup choice.

 

[Navi]

Gentlemen you have already quite a line up waiting for a chance at that title belt.

Cena is the number one contender. Orton still has his rematch clause from last year. Daniel Bryan was stripped of the title, so if he comes back he has a shot at it. Seth Rollins could take it from any of them with the MITB suitcase. Batista in a way has a shot as well. HHH promised him that once the Shield was taken care of he would have another shot. Now that could go either way, with him not in power anymore, the WWE could say that Batista's shot is gone. And then finally you have the one that's being groomed to take over for Cena, Roman Reigns. Oh and whoever wins the Rumble this year.

Now I don't think Reigns has a chance this year. He's been out for a few months now, and any momentum he had built up is gone. He should wait until either Summerslam or next year's Mania to go for the belt. That would give him enough time to work on his skills a little more. Let the others fight it out for now.

So is it really advantageous to win the Rumble this year, with so many already waiting. It would seem that the winner would jump over everyone else, and is that really fair.

Now if we could only get the guy holding the belt to show up, then we might be able to get underway with this. But that's another story.

 

[BuriedByCena]

Sadly, it looks like Roman Reigns is going to get the win. Unless Vince goes Bi-Polar again and changes his mind claiming Roman is injury prone....

Which leaves us with Randy Orton Vs Brock Lesnar as a nice back up.

Or possibly a Triple Threat with Dean/Roman/Brock so in case Roman gets injured they can give it to dean and have rollins cash in right after.

 

[King502]

Y not have sting win the rumble and beat Brock then face HHH TAKER WYATT u no dice wwe doesn't mind having a part time champ

 

[FitFinlay4Life]

Sorry do not see any of this happening! Undertaker won't work a major program that long.... I would love to see him challenge for the title and retire as champion next night on raw but I do not see it happening.

Surprise 30th entry at the Rumble (imagine the pop) and only matches at Mania and SummerSlam. Sounds like a nice farewell program to me.

 

[Mudlup50]

Surprise 30th entry at the Rumble (imagine the pop) and only matches at Mania and SummerSlam. Sounds like a nice farewell program to me.

Okay so you want a guy to be a part time champ...right after we have a part time champ most everyone is complaining about not being there? Lesnar and Taker being champ for a full year only wrestling like 4-6 times in that whole time. I just don't like that idea.

Plus would Taker even want to beat Lesnar? I mean I'm not Taker and don't claim to have some crazy insight into his brain. But why would he lose to Lesnar just to beat him. You never know with the WWE but I could see that going over poorly

 

[Fillet Club]

Okay so you want a guy to be a part time champ...right after we have a part time champ most everyone is complaining about not being there? Lesnar and Taker being champ for a full year only wrestling like 4-6 times in that whole time. I just don't like that idea.

Plus would Taker even want to beat Lesnar? I mean I'm not Taker and don't claim to have some crazy insight into his brain. But why would he lose to Lesnar just to beat him. You never know with the WWE but I could see that going over poorly

This.

We've wanted a new 'era' for quite some time now, with new guys main eventing and what not. Hell we were promised a 'new era' following Survivor Series, personally I felt we were entering that after Wrestlemania 30 (but we all know how that turned out).

It's time for someone new to step up and headline Wrestlemania, whether it's Reigns, Ambrose, Rollins, Wyatt, Cesaro, Ziggler etc it doesn't matter. Who knows what can happen if the company gives one of these guys their faith to deliver?

And do we really want Cena vs Lesnar again at 'Mania? Personally, no.

 

[rge2010]

Am I reading this correctly? Dolph Ziggler is the most over babyface in the company?! And he should win the Rumble and go on to defeat Brock Lesnar?!

And people criticise WWE for not having a clue!

 

[FitFinlay4Life]

Okay so you want a guy to be a part time champ...right after we have a part time champ most everyone is complaining about not being there? Lesnar and Taker being champ for a full year only wrestling like 4-6 times in that whole time. I just don't like that idea.

Plus would Taker even want to beat Lesnar? I mean I'm not Taker and don't claim to have some crazy insight into his brain. But why would he lose to Lesnar just to beat him. You never know with the WWE but I could see that going over poorly

So, you think he'd rather go out as a once a year performer who lost the one thing he was renowned for? Redemption has been a massive tool in prowrestling for decades. Plus, I didn't say he'd do a Lesnar and just vanish from TV - Hulkamania was built on the WHC only performing in PPV but he was on TV week in week out building to the PPVs. Why should Taker not be afforded the same respect? Who knows - a proper build might even increase buyrates!

 

[rbv13]

The idea of Taker winning the Rumble is just absurd. Lets just assume Brock remains champion until WM. Do you recall how painful that match was to watch? There was nothing exciting about it until the finish. Granted it was the biggest three count of all time but there is no way in hell anyone wants to sit through another match between these two.

The thought of Dolph going over is a long shot but it has legs to stand on. He is being booked as the "never say die" type of guy and that could lend to a program with Brock. In reality I see them giving him a nice Rumble moment, maybe longest in the match, and then cooling off on him during the Road to WM.

 

[FitFinlay4Life]

The idea of Taker winning the Rumble is just absurd. Lets just assume Brock remains champion until WM. Do you recall how painful that match was to watch? There was nothing exciting about it until the finish. Granted it was the biggest three count of all time but there is no way in hell anyone wants to sit through another match between these two.

You do realize that Taker had a concussion for the vast majority of the match and Brock had to carry him?

laodaron (via red rep)
He already had his farewell program at WM30.

Wow - crappy farewell! Who's your 'in' at Titan Towers because I never heard anything about WM30 being the Deadman's final match.

For the record, I'm not saying I would book this. I'm merely saying that I could see it happening - Taker and Sting have the clock ticking on their careers and having the WHC involved would be a good indication of the respect they are due.

 

[Aquaman6686]

Am I reading this correctly? Dolph Ziggler is the most over babyface in the company?! And he should win the Rumble and go on to defeat Brock Lesnar?!

And people criticise WWE for not having a clue!

Other than the injured Daniel Bryan, there is NOBODY in the company even half as over as Dolph Ziggler. He's the best choice is Bryan can't make it back. And he's more over than Roman Reigns and Dean Ambrose combined, and then doubled.

 

[rbv13]

You do realize that Taker had a concussion for the vast majority of the match and Brock had to carry him?

Hat tip to you. I completely forgot about the concussion early in the match. That explains why it sucked so much. Now I have to go back and reevaluate the entire topic at hand.

 

[thebigbadfox]

I think everyone needs to stop thinking there is any chance taker or sting win rumble. Its just not happening.

Now if no Ziggler as I suggested (and I agree he is more over than Ambrose and Reigns combined)... Maybe they can start a Ceasaro push? He has all the tools....

What if they have Lesner drop the title prior to the Rumble match... to Cena or to Rollins (via a cash in) and then he enters himself into the Rumble and eliminates just about everyone. And then goes on to main event WrestleMania. ( not sure if he was ever in the final match at mania?)

I guess my thread here is not even anything but a fantasy booking though... because we all know either Reigns or Bryan if they are healthy are winning it. And if not Batista/ Orton/ Cena will be the fall back. Disappointing especially like I said I will be there and want something special to happen.

 

[MCMG]

As an idea, I'd be fine with Ziggler wining the Rumble. I'd watch Ziggler/Brock and I'm sure it would be entertaining. Ziggler would get a huge rub and there is enough talent on the rest of the card to sell the PPV.

As a reality, it won't happen. He is definitely popular but he needs to have way more momentum and believability. Ziggler has lost way too often and it would be such a massive leap. They have a couple of months to build on the Survivor Series momentum but that probably isn't enough.

I don't fancy another Taker/Brock match but it would be a cool way for Taker to end his career. Unlikely, of course. If the WWE don't feel Reigns is ready - a distinct possibility- and Bryan is injured then a healthy Taker could be a realistic choice. Orton and Ambrose are the only other names that could work.

 

[kadroan]

I doubt he'd win. I couldn't see Dolph vs. Brock sell to the WrestleMania audience as a legit main event. 10 years ago, yes because you had guys like Benoit and Guerrero in main events but you also had the World Heavyweight Championship.

Nobody really knows Ziggler outside of wrestling. Meanwhile, you got a guy like Reigns, who got the look, size, family heritage they could sell to new and non-WWE fans as their next big star.

 

[rbv13]

I think everyone needs to stop thinking there is any chance taker or sting win rumble. Its just not happening.

99% chance they will not win or even be in the Rumble match but there is always a chance of anything happening. Plus its a good topic for "what if."

When it comes to Ziggler it is hard to argue the guys popularity right now. He is reaching new heights when it comes to his personal stardom. I am interested to know if his success at Survivor Series was an acknowledgment of that and a single moment or if the brass actually have faith in a serious push. This situation vaguely reminds me the spot Daniel Bryan was in last year. Ziggler is nowhere near as over with the complete fan base but there are some major similarities. If they choose someone over Ziggler, maybe Reigns, would the Universe crap all over that super star as they Batista? If this Ziggler movement picks up some serious steam would the E be willing to cave creatively as they seemingly did last year? It will be interesting to see how this all plays out.

 

[TheICChampion]

They just have to be really careful about pushing Ziggler. I get the feeling if he's in the middle of his push and gets a concussion or injured in some way then they're never going to get behind him again. Besides, what's wrong with Ziggler staying in the mid-card? Already he's had more success than most of the WWE superstars today, and although he's had some bad luck in the past, maybe it's safer to keep him there?

 

[Mudlup50]

What if they have Lesner drop the title prior to the Rumble match... to Cena or to Rollins (via a cash in) and then he enters himself into the Rumble and eliminates just about everyone. And then goes on to main event WrestleMania. ( not sure if he was ever in the final match at mania?)

To your last sentence he main evented Wrestlemania 19 against Kurt Angle? He even won the match and the WWE championship in the process.

I personally don't want to see Lesnar dropping the belt before Mania, I am still onboard with a modification of the original plan. Except Reigns doesn't win the Rumble. We can slide Reigns into a program with the Rock(didn't he say he wanted to put Reigns over plus it should help Reigns with his promos).

I hate myself for saying this but maybe have Cena win the Rumble. Maybe Cena's rival at the time could and Cena could win the match at Mania at Fast Lane or whatever. For the record, Orton works just as well here so long as he's still as over as he was before leaving. Lesnar retains at Mania just barely, and then have Rollins come out. I see no reason why Rollins wouldn't be able to win then. You could even have Noble/Mercury help him.

Lesnar would work Extreme Rules against Rollins but due to the weapons being aloud and J&J Rollins retains. Then he can feud with Cena/Orton/Reigns/Bryan/Ambrose/etc.

The only problem is if the crowd cheers Seth at Mania. Lesnar could get cheered at Mania against Cena, which would actually be the ideal situation. That way Rollins can get heel heat cashing in on him. They could fix this by using J&J quite a bit, but it would make Rollins look weaker. You could consider Cena winning but I worry the Mania crowd will boo Cena tying Flair's record.