Vote To Legalize Marijuana

So why are you here? Why do you find the time to comment when you don't care?

Just because you don't smoke doesn't mean you can't be for the legalization of marijuana. Ron Paul is a perfect example he doesn't smoke but he knows how messed up it is what we do to people over having a natural plant. It may not mean anything to you but think of all the people who need medical marijuana to help them. Think about all the innocent people in prison right now or that have been arrested and had to pay a unnecessary fine for only having a plant. You don’t need to only think what’s best for you but what is best for our world.
 
I already told you how to handle recreational use but you were too busy brushing it by.

All you have to is don't abuse it. Don't over do it.
Fair enough. While you didn't have a very smart response, you did respond by furthering the argument instead of repeating a rant of yours, so you get one more opportunity to continue big boy discussion before I go back to calling you a moron.


If it's harmful, and we don't want people to over-do it, why don't we just keep it illegal? They can't overdue it legally if we don't give them the opportunity. Remember that arguments stating 'sense' or 'right' aren't valid, since I don't trust you anywhere near those terms.

Bear in mind you are discussing recreational usage- the medicinal benefits of marijuana are irrelevant to a discussion about recreational usage.

You get one more try to grasp the point here.

I stopped at testicular cancer because you were unable to respond to that beyond a "well, the methodology must be wrong then". I could go on easily to other cancers, but you're slowing up this whole process. The fact that it takes you a long time to struggle through one argument does not mean that there are not other arguments out there. Marijuana is also linked to increased incidences of leukemia in children of mothers who smoked marijuana during pregnancy, for instance.
Think about all the innocent people in prison right now or that have been arrested and had to pay a unnecessary fine for only having a plant.
Stop using the word innocent. Along with much of the rest of your vocabulary, you don't know what the word actually means.
 
With all your mumbo jumbo you keep spitting out I feel like calling you a moron. Keep it illegal makes no sense at all it is a waste on tax payers money. A crime to lock people up. We prevent sick people from having there medicine just ask the state of Montana that one. Marijuana isn't harmful but you can over do it. If you take 20 bong hits your probably just going to fall asleep and wake up feeling fine if you take 20 shots you could potentially die. You can over do anything in life. By saying you don't want people to over do anything then lets just make everything in the world now illegal since it can cause potential harm. Let's all live in bubbles to protect ourselves from all the danger. How is saying don't abuse something not a smart response? Maybe it's because you only think our response is a smart response? Again we have vaporizers and we eat marijuana so you don't have to just smoke it. If we are going to let people drink and smoke when they kill millions why not let people smoke pot when ever they want since it has killed 0

A mother who is pregnant with a child shouldn't be smoking in the first place.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8QCvWkHiGU

You guys are acting like a bunch of Stephen Baldwins
 
One more thing Rayne I'll be using the word innocent until there no more people in prison for marijuana or getting arrested for havering a small amount of pot.. Also when people stop getting arrested for growing a plant. I’ll be using the word innocent when t the DEA and Police stop raiding houses taking medicine from sick people killing peoples dogs. I’ll be using the word innocent until marijuana is legal.

Since your smart tell me how this makes sense. A question that everyone ignores

How does it make sense that Marc Emery a man who only sold seeds in Canada is serving a five year sentence in America and is labeled one of the biggest threats to America or a mother who sold $30 worth of pot to a cop and got 10 years in prison.

When Michael Vick who deserves to get the same treatment that he did to those dogs for committing one of the most worst horrific crimes only got a slap on the wrist. Now he is making millions playing for the NFL.

Even rapist and child molesters get lighter sentences then those two for pot charges

How is that fair justice? Don't give me well that's just the way the law works bull shit
By keeping marijuana illegal innocent people will continue to be arrested for something that should be accepted by everyone.
 
*sigh* The instant we stop talking about testicular cancer, you're right back to talking about how marijuana is harmless. You don't trust articles in peer-reviewed journals publicized by the American Cancer Society, but you expect us to believe that pot makes you a better driver because one of your friends said so.

Todd, you had your chance to argue like a big boy. Instead, you entirely ignored the questions you were asked, yet again, so you could go on yet another rant about what you feel makes sense and what you think is right, yet again. You blew your opportunity, kid. Your fifteen minutes are over.

Big boys don't use terms like 'sense' or 'right' in big boy discussion, because those terms mean different things to different people. At some point, you are going to discover that your idea of 'sense' and 'right' is very far removed from what the average persons idea of that is, and you shouldn't rely on it in an argument.

When people are treating you like the fucking idiot you are, and you're wondering why no one takes anything you have to say seriously here, come back to this thread. A wiser and more educated you, somewhere in the future, will see several people trying to ask you questions, and you constantly avoiding them to preach about what you feel is right and wrong.
 
Rayne change your name to Stephen Baldwin because that is what you are acting like. If you didn't watch the video I posted of Stephen Baldwin badly trying to say how marijuana should stay illegal. He kind of reminds me of you.

What the hell are you talking about? I didn't avoid any of your questions I answered them. Your probably mad because I proved you wrong. I don't think that your capable of having a big boy discussion.

Stop putting words in my mouth I never said a friend told me you can drive stoned. I discovered that by getting stoned and then driving. I drive fine stoned and so so a lot of other people I know drive fine as well. I'm way more alert of my surroundings and feel more relaxed. I have a clean driving record and never been in a accident so I'm doing pretty good driving high. What about alcohol alcohol will actually impair your ability to drive.

For me to really believe that marijuana causes testicular cancer when they do a real test to determine so. The study they did was a on a very small group of people. All it said is that they smoked marijuana. Men have been smoking weed for hundreds of years why isn't there an alarming rate with men with testicular cancer. Well they also did a study that said marijuana caused brain damage but that was determined by depriving money’s from oxygen and suffocating them.

You ignored how Nixon was told marijuana is harmless but ignored it. Instead of legalizing marijuana he wanted to continue fighting a pointless war and they didn’t want protectors since a lot of them smoked pot Nixon figured that be a good way to get rid of a lot of them. Lock them up for speaking their minds.You and Nixon have a lot in common. Ignore the truth to say your right. I'm pretty sure that you only think what you say is a smart response. You have the nerve to say I avoid what you have to say when you avoid almost everything that I say.
 
We're supposed to believe you based on personal experience, and disbelieve the American Cancer Society's opinion based on medical research and peer review. Because the American Cancer Society is so biased. In favor of cancer research.

Yes, I'm definitely worried that you proved me wrong, Todd. Ya got me.
 
Todd, the article you linked was about lung function- the absorption rate of O2 per litre of air inhaled- not lung cancer. They say specifically within it that the study they are referencing offers no new information on the relation between marijuana and lung cancer. It goes on to say that results shouldn't be inferred from the data, because they didn't segregate marijuana smokers into groups based on consumption.

You are confusing the difference between a study not saying anything, and a study suggesting a negative. If you aren't going to read the articles you post, don't expect other people to read them either.
My personal experience I was talking about was smoking and driving not people I know who are smoking and getting cancer you blowhole.
Yes, that was exactly the point. This is why we can't have big boy conversation.

When you make a statement, you expect people to accept it as fact. You say that smoking marijuana makes you a better driver, and you expect people to believe it because you said it.

When someone else makes a statement, it doesn't count. You're expecting people to believe you based on "because I said so", but you're not ready to accept the opinion of oncologists (cancer specialists, look it up) in a medically peer reviewed journal, promoted by the leading cancer organization in the world.

You are asking people to reject the opinion of several PhD's analyzing each others work, but at the same time asking people to accept your 'because I said it's this way' opinion.

That was the point. The fact that I have to explain points to you that are obvious to everyone else is part of why I can't have a big boy conversation with you. Shit, you're still stumbling over the carrot allegory that everyone else got.
 
No more feeding the troll it's lost it's thrill...

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Seriously, for the sake of the pony...
 
Stephen Baldwin

I never said because I drive good high doesn't mean that everyone is going to be the same. I never had a problem with personal experiences. there are plenty of bad drivers on the road who don't smoke pot at all too. Also you ignore how much more dangerous it is to drive drunk from legal alcohol than it is to drive stoned. Stoned and drunk are two completely different things.

I also never said anything about lung cancer I said harm to the lungs. THC kills cancer cells. The damage from marijuana will never ever come any where close to the terrible damages that legal alcohol,tobacco,and prescription drugs cause. If your going to ever get cancer then your going to have to smoke a massive bunch of pot. The study said that they had a history of using marijuana never said how much they smoked just a history. We don't know if a lot these people only smoked pot a few times and are heavy drinkers or cigarettes smokers. The study was only on 163 people in one location.
 
Todd. Buddy. I've said about a half-dozen times that I'm pro-decriminalization, and anti-your insane arguments. You're making the mistake that anyone who contradicts your bullshit must be opposed to the cause you're promoting, instead of your insane bullshit. No one believes you drive better when you're stoned, for instance; that was an example of the crazy bullshit you expect people to believe based on 'because I said so', while expecting them to doubt peer reviewed journals promoted by the largest cancer organization in the world.

We can't have the discussion about alcohol, because despite several of my attempts to explain using everything but hand puppets, you don't understand that one bad thing doesn't justify another bad thing. It's not that I'm ignoring it, it's that after pounding my head against a wall for so long trying to explain a very simple concept to you, I've moved on and accepted that you just aren't going to get it.
 
Todd. Buddy. I've said about a half-dozen times that I'm pro-decriminalization, and anti-your insane arguments. You're making the mistake that anyone who contradicts your bullshit must be opposed to the cause you're promoting, instead of your insane bullshit. No one believes you drive better when you're stoned, for instance; that was an example of the crazy bullshit you expect people to believe based on 'because I said so', while expecting them to doubt peer reviewed journals promoted by the largest cancer organization in the world.

We can't have the discussion about alcohol, because despite several of my attempts to explain using everything but hand puppets, you don't understand that one bad thing doesn't justify another bad thing. It's not that I'm ignoring it, it's that after pounding my head against a wall for so long trying to explain a very simple concept to you, I've moved on and accepted that you just aren't going to get it.

Rayne, he's not going to get it. All he knows to do is post his arguments and close his ears to any responding argument, and then troll on anyone with a different opinion even if they post facts supporting it. Rinse and repeat. It's pointless to try and reason with him because reasoning with him is impossible. He refuses to see any viewpoint BUT his own. Don't waste your time on him.
 
It's the exact opposite you don't get it. It would be much better to legalize and regulate marijuana. You don't get what I say. When you and everyone else just insult me and put words in my mouth. One false assumption made about me you say I'm against anyone who disagrees with my viewpoint. I'm against people who claim they have big boy discussions when all they do is insult others. When you say something that is false I will prove you wrong. It's not a matter of only my opinion is the right. It's a matter that marijuana being illegal is wrong.

I don't care if you don't smoke. I don't think that everyone should smoke pot.I don't believe that everyone should drive stoned. I'm not saying that everyone person is a great driver stoned. I know that I'm a good driver stoned and people I know drive fine. That doesn't mean everyone else is but I have good personal experience.You don’t have to smoke to know what we do to people over marijuana being illegal isn’t fucked up. You don’t have to smoke to know that marijuana should be legal. Even after saying this you will still find a way to put words in my mouth.

Again your also saying I’m comparing cancer and driving. Your study you showed me wasn't good enough. You can't base marijuana causes testicular cancer from 163 people who had a history of using marijuana. Never explaining how much they smoke. Show me a better study that marijuana causes testicular cancer. Stop ignoring marijuana causes brain damage by suffocating monkeys. or the make believe myth that marijuana is a gateway drug. Also ignoring the state of Montana taking away a kid’s medicine leading to his death. You want to talk about things that cause harm if marijuana was legal none of this harm would have happened.

You talk about how one thing is wrong he shouldn't accept another thing that is wrong. When marijuana isn't wrong. People don't get the benefits from drinking or smoking tobacco or dipping that they do from marijuana. The positives outweigh the negatives. Hot dogs and milk causes more harm to the body than marijuana. There are so many other legal things that The only crime and the only harm is from marijuana being illegal.
 
You mean believe your YouTube videos and Facebook articles and YOUR personal experience over the American Cancer Society? Considering the ACS STUDY cancer and its causes so they more than likely know what they're talking about much more than you do. Anyway, I have much better things to do than feed the troll so I'm out.




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The only you tube videos I post are ones by people that are more educated than myself or anyone else on here. Stop ignoring marijuana causes brain damage because they suffocated a bunch of monkeys.

Here are some interesting links that are not from Face Book

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/25/AR2006052501729.html

http://stopthedrugwar.org/speakeasy/2007/apr/18/cannabis_doesnt_cause_cancer_it

http://healthland.time.com/2012/06/.../marijuana-doesnt-cause-lung-cancer-or-death/

http://norml.org/library/item/your-government-is-lying-to-you-again-about-marijuana

http://norml.org/library/item/endnotes-2

Are you going to ignore this too? What about Montana taking medicine away from a kid? You ignored that too.
 

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