Again, the question was asked to each person what they thought were issues that held Ziggler back. I stressed the "queer colors" and "fruity mannerisms" were elements that are partially holding him back. If you don't agree, it's your right to disagree. But, to disreguard my opinion because you perceive things differently or calling it "ignorance" is just that your opinion. Look, I get that people wear outlandish gear to get attention. Hooray for them. Do you honestly think manly men like The Undertaker or Stone Cold Steve Austin would've been taken seriously wearing damn near un-PG like short trunks[with weird colors] and a pink shirt tucked out of their ass? Because I certainly don't think that would make their cred skyrocket or have helped convince people that this is a real star. You have to dress the part seriously if you wanna be taken seriously. I don't have a color specific problem with pink but when you add in the mannerisms he does, it does detract from his image. Bret Hart wore pink and he was great. So did Jim Neidhart and it didn't hold him back. So did Rick Rude[although he did have some of the weird mannerisms too]. I get that different stars have different approaches. I do think looking the part of a star goes a long way towards projecting that to the audience. No disrespect to Ziggler for his look, but, I do believe it to be a hinderance to him not having a complete package that makes fans think "this guy is a star". It had nothing to do with my being "immature" or anything like that. But, as with anything on this forum it's all in how each person looks at it. Some people are quite good at spinning things or twisting things outta context making it something it is not. If people wanna actually blast me for thinking it's a valid reason, go right ahead. I'm not asking for judgement or approval on what I post. Think what you want and I will indeed do the same.
Your initial post suggested that the colors of Ziggler's ring attire are a part of his problem. To then go and list Bret Hart, Jim Neidhart, and Rick Rude -- who all wore the same colors as Ziggler at some point in their careers -- pretty much debunks the color of someone's gear as a "problem." Again, I'd throw Shawn Michaels into that mix, as well as Randy Savage, Rick Martel, Jeff Hardy, CM Pink, Owen Hart, Val Venis, and Billy Gunn just off the top of my head as guys who have worn pink attire at some point in their career. If you want to start throwing variations of pink around, the list grows even longer and starts to include Razor Ramon, Mr. Perfect, John Cena, Ric Flair, and the list goes on. And didn't Edge slide into the ring and hump the mat? Wasn't "suck it" one of Triple H's catchphrases? You can't possibly be unfamiliar with 3-time Intercontinental Champion Goldust.
Would wearing pink trunks have worked for Stone Cold or The Undertaker? No, because it would have been contradictory to their character. But it has worked for all of those other guys because it matched their character, or because they wore it confidently, or because they made the colors into an unmistakable legacy within the business. Having pink gear matches Ziggler's character. It matches his persona. He's a show off, he's cocky, he can wear pink because he's good enough to get away with it. That's the crux of the Dolph Ziggler character. Could he just as easily wear green or black or red or whatever? Probably. But it's not as if fans -- the same overwhelming number of fans who have been chanting his name for weeks -- would yell louder if he were wearing some other color.
The point is this: if having a pink shirt is Ziggler's biggest problem, then he's home free.
Wow, you pulled the old "grown men in tights, wrestling is fake" arguement. I'm gonna take a shot in the dark here and guess you're not a consistent fan of wrestling. Because that is the same things detractors of pro wrestling have been saying for years and it's utter bullshit. Everytime someone pulls that excuse out, it means they have no real basis for their logic[or sometimes lack thereof]. If it looks like a duck and quacks, pretty soon people are gonna start to think, damn that's a duck. Does that make it less true because some people want to disreguard it? Nope. Thanks for making this so easy.
To clarify: I didn't say "fake," I said "there is no actual fighting and the results are predetermined." I don't believe wrestling is fake; I think the vast majority of wrestlers are top flight athletes and I believe a genuine physical toll is taken on their bodies. But that they aren't fighting for real and that the results are predetermined -- those are facts. My point was, you're watching an entertainment program driven by grown men in skimpy tights and then saying that one of the problems with a particular superstar is that he's a grown man in tights of a "girly" color performing unpleasant mannerisms. That's like going to the theater to watch
Saw and then complaining that there's gore. Certain things are inherent with the territory. You're entitled to your own opinion, as you say, but it's my opinion that this particular complaint is silly.
