I don't see where the problem lies, It's been explained by so many people now, why is this a big deal, if Sly wants more wrestling discussion then make some threads on new topics
You really should try reading a thread before responding multiple times in it.
I havn't seen him post in either one of the recent wrestling related threads I've just put up
Maybe because they sucked? You know what I feel about ROH, and a comparison between Orton and Batista isn't really that discussion worthy.
for some one who's so worried about wrestling discussion he sure doesn't seem to be posting much in the wrestling related threads that are being created
Maybe because that thread is not a good one? Do I think Matt Morgan will wrestling in TNA? Yes. End of that discussion. Not a good topic.
Which, was the whole point of this thread. Lack of quality wrestling discussion. I'll give you point for trying, do not doubt. But, just because I want more wrestling discussion doesn't mean I'm going to post in threads dealing with wrestling topics I don't want to post in. Doesn't mean that I don't read many many threads that I don't post in.
So what you've basically just said is, in order to talk wrestling it absolutely HAS to be in the wrestling section. It can't be somewhere, where post counts are off, because people can always change the subject. (as if that doesn't happen enough in the wrestling threads anyways - the difference being you won't get an infraction for it)
No, what I said is that I don't read many threads in spammy forums. Quit making this out to be something it's not.
And so what if threads like the "Opinion of:" or "E-Wedding Guest List:" gain attention. It just goes to show that while you may of been attracted to this site because of wrestling, you have the ability to step outside of that box & talk about anything, no matter how serious or silly it may be.
Sly, I don't mean it offendingly because I get the whole "a wrestling forum should only be for wrestling" stick you're giving.. but you seem stuck up in the fact that you hate how other things outside of the wrestling world are taking more attention away from the actual "name" of the forum. When the actual point of a forum in general, is overall discussion. (Its not like I'm boosting the E-Wedding, or Opinion Of threads in the wrestling section - people make the choice to come here, I don't force them)
You're missing the point. I don't care if people post there, but there really needs to be some better discussion
You and Justin are attacking me for asking a simple question, and your opinion on it. No one here has really denied the fact that the lack of good wrestling discussion takes place.
Let me reiterate my original topic point...
Me said:
So, why do you think we have a lack of it, do you mind the lack of it, and if you do, what can we do to fix it?
I have.. you'd notice that if you were as dedicated to the wrestling sections as you say you are. I've started threads, I've contributed to threads, hell if you paid attention to what anyone has said of me.. apparently I write books everytime I write. And from what I've gathered, every bit of it is worth reading??
I was speaking in generalities. You know that.
I love reading your debates. (except the Brian/DIAR one) You have such a vast opinion of things. Maybe you should step outside of the wrestling only world & come join us just to randomly talk crap?
I do on occasion. But, if I wanted to talk random stuff, I would do that with people in real life, or on MSN Messenger. With people I know.
Well, we aren't other forums. I don't mean it harshly, but if you don't like it here.. quit coming here. I'd expect to hear the same thing told to me, if I had any issues about this place, that some other place was better than.
*sigh*
Come on Will. You're not this dense. Re-read what you originally wrote that prompted this response.
You said someone can talk about certain topics only so much. I used that as an example to disprove you. Instead of making excuses for people not posting, and turning my words into something their not, why not understand the actual point behind them?
When you compare, you judge. No two things are ever going to be alike, I'd have expected you of all people to realize that.
I didn't say this forum had to be like that one. You said it couldn't be done, I used an example that showed it could. That was all.
In my personal opinion, the only reason people (regulars) may have stopped debating with you.. is because you misshape everything they say, to make you look right. Even when you may infact not be.
I don't intentionally misshape anything anyone says. And, if someone feels that is so, then it is their responsibility to explain it more clearly.
Like I've done for you several times in this post.
I love talking to you for what its worth. I've completely enjoyed our debates, & I could care less if you make me look bad or wrong.. because if its true, it needs to be done. However, I've seen a couple times where you will definately misshape what someone says to make them seem wrong in saying it, when in fact you likely knew they weren't wrong.. but thats where you're smart enough to change it to make it look wrong. (don't ask me what, because I really don't know off the top of my head, & I'm not gonna bother looking -- I'll find something if I think of it later)
I don't argue things I don't believe, and have yet to been faced with any FACTUAL thing where I was wrong and continued to debate it. So many people think I'm "wrong" because I disagree with them. That's fine, no big deal. But, I think I'm right so I keep going. If someone is able to provide specific fact on how I'm wrong, I go on my way.
The reason that doesn't happen very often is because very rarely will cold hard objective facts prove me wrong. Which is why you think I misshape stuff, etc.
If someone says a one sentence answer, that can spark enough in it to pull up huge discussion, then its not spamming. But crap like "Jeff Hardy sucks" or "I can't stand how Cena wins all the time." Shit like that isn't discussion, they aren't explaining WHY they feel that way.. & thats the point. Every one of us explain WHY we feel the way we do.. & if you can't do that, then you likely aren't a member.
Besides all that, why do you want to talk with someone who's so small minded to say "Cena is shit cause he never loses." They obviously aren't taking in the fact that it isn't exactly HIM commanding those wins all the time, its a creative collective storyline. So why talk to people like that?
Let's take your example...
"I can't stand how Cena wins all the time". You look at that and say it's spam. I look at that and see a great discussion.
"Why don't you like how Cena wins all the time? Do you not understand it's good for the business? Do you think that it's Cena's fault he wins all the time?" and I could go on and on.
So, in that case, that one sentence which is considered spam actually generates good discussion.
Again, this is not about fighting the spam rules, just merely stating that what is considered spam isn't always such.