I'm under NDA for another eight years, but I can say I worked for a guy with a large house in southwestern Connecticut who flies in a private jet often, likes bull mastiffs, but doesn't really have the spare time to care for one, and almost exclusively likes to eat at steak restaurants when he's traveling.
A simple 'no, i've never worked for WWE, so i don't
know what i'm talking about' would have done.
No, that's not what I said at all. I said that random person on the internet has absolutely no way of knowing the reasons why Jeff Hardy chose to turn down the offer from WWE, let alone has absolutely no way of knowing what the offer from WWE contained. So all it comes down to is "I heard on the internet that he got the same deal from both companies, he chose this one, what's up with that?"
First of all, nobody's claiming to 'know' anything. Information like this can never be taken as fact, but that's what the thread is based on, so that's what we'll base our opinions on.
Secondly, do you know what Jeff's deal is, because the source material (ya know, the text that started the thread in the first place?) only states what WWE were offering, so how can you say they're the same deal?
I think that you are in absolutely no position to judge the terms of Jeff Hardy's contract offers, but hey, this is the internet and you've heard rumors. So here we are.
Yeah, that's how internet forums work. The members take things they've seen and things they've heard about and discuss them. I'd have thought after 40 odd posts you'd have figured that out by now.
It makes perfect sense, as anyone who has worked for multiple companies in the same field can tell you. Just because you don't understand it (just like this Jeff Hardy deal) doesn't mean it doesn't make sense.
I'd have understood it if you understood grammar.
"Two deals with the same pay and time constraints aren't similar."
Again, we've only been presented the particulars of one deal in this article, yet somehow you've managed to make a comparison. So, how'd you manage that exactly?
That actual sentence doesn't grammatically make sense.
Two contracts have two clauses that are identical, but are not similar to one another...... despite having 2 clauses that are identical.
So you heard on the internet that the WWE offered him a deal they don't offer many people. So what? There is no "he burned us before and we're still extending a good offer", you extend someone an offer based on what they can provide you now, and Jeff Hardy, despite TNA's criminal misuse of him, still has a significant upside.
He's also a stupidly high flight risk, based on his current legal situation. You can make a mint off the guy, but you can't really make any long term plans for him either. Which, based on the article (that this discussion is based on) is why they haven't pushed him further.
Furthermore, no one's disputing that he's a massive draw. We're saying he's stupid for going with the company that will make
him less money in the long term, purely because
according to the article, he got his feelings hurt.
There's no menton of being 'burned out from the WWE schedule' or 'having major heat backstage', there is only 'they made fun of me, so i won't go back,' which a lot of us feel is a very stupid attitude towards business.
You think he got a better offer from WWE? One billion squint-eyed Chinese don't give a shit, because you aren't the one that has to go out there and work that contract.
I'm not posting to 1 billion Chinese though am i? I'm posting to a bunch of wrestling fans on the internet who want to discuss an article in the Wrestling Observer Newsletter. I'm now sparring with you because i challenged your post and all you can do is throw ridiculous accusations at me and moan about people basing opinions on rumours. If you've got a problem with people doing that, you're going to spend a lot of time having discussions like this with other posters.
You think you know so much, but so much of what you know is just what you think. The actual fact of the matter is that you don't know a damned thing, you just heard some stuff on the internet (mark) and chose to go off from there. Keep sending money!
My god, you are the sorriest excuse for a poster i've come across in a while.
1. Don't tell people you've never met, what they do or do not think. It only makes you look more pathetic.
2. Yes i did just read something on the internet and make an opinion. I never claimed to be doing anything else. Try not to mention it every other sentence in your next response.
3. "Keep sending money!" is your closing statement? What does that even mean? Keep sending money to who? To WWE? Joke's on you mate, i don't pay for shit to watch wrestling. Keep talking crap!
4. And i've read your definition of a 'mark' and i don't really see how you can suddenly apply that to me. Someone who blindly follows what they show on TV as i fit were real. Despite the fact that this is a report from a journalist, and i never claimed to accept it as fact. If i'm honest, i used it as yet another excuse to bash Jeff Hardy, as if i needed one, but until i hear/read/see an interview with Jeff Hardy discussing why he decided to lie to everyone and purposely go against his word to go and work in the little leagues again, then this is what i'll accept as the reason, but i understand that it's not concrete evidence, hence why at no point did i present anything as a fact.
