WZCW Discussion Thread

[K Web V3]

First W in Logan McAllister's young career..... Props to my partner!

 

[Showtime]

For what it's worth I requested to face you to see if I could go on your level. I appreciated the fight.

I appreciate it also. I've said regarding Showtime that I really want to face people I haven't faced much before, and you're someone I'm very happy to have faced. Towards the end of my last run on creative, I specifically requested to face Rush because of how well he had done for months. I was really hoping our match would've been a lot longer, but I've already made my peace with that issue.

 

[FlexAmerican Dynamite]

I appreciate it also. I've said regarding Showtime that I really want to face people I haven't faced much before, and you're someone I'm very happy to have faced. Towards the end of my last run on creative, I specifically requested to face Rush because of how well he had done for months. I was really hoping our match would've been a lot longer, but I've already made my peace with that issue.

We'll get a rematch at a later date I'm sure.

 

[Ty Burna]

First RP (of two) finished already. Didn't really matter who my opponents are for this part. Clocked in just under 3000 words. Gotta shake the rust off.

 

[ABMorales787]

I know this is totally irrelevant, but I just went by the Irvine Spectrum mall and the fucking ferris wheel has a Goddamn LED screen on it now. What in the flying fuck?

 

[K Web V3]

Boards still goin up tonight?

 

[NSL]

The opening to Meltdown says Live Mas is taking on Men Of Mayhem

Watch yourself young'n. The saying goes happy wife happy life. It's not just a simple rhyme, it's a god damn war time strategy.

Damn straight.

Yeah...I'm going to need to watch NXT now.

Yo props to NSL. That match you wrote was legit man. That's all I've read of ascension so far.... Made Hayden wait til the match was posted before getting him to bed

Thank you! It was a lot of fun writing the match!

 

[NSL]

FIRST WIN! Great match! Loved the writing!

 

[NSL]

The Men Of Mayhem segment is a little confusing, talking about a match against the tag champs, and then earning a title match at Kingdom Come.

Was the original match supposed to be Men Of Mayhem v Live Mas, and the segments weren't changed?

EDIT: Overall, 2 great shows. Yes, the delay sucked, but we all know shit happens and real life > fed life. It was a lot of fun writing for this round, and my services are always available. Very interested to see the boards, and find out what can possibly be next for Doe and Fallout after toppling the champs!

 

[Johnny Scumm]

Dave, thanks for a great match.

If I'm getting to work with Titus now, then fuck yeah. Apart from a one off match a few years back, this is one of the guys I've really wanted to face.

 

[Con T.]

Two really good shows down the barrel. I'll be writing up a bit of a review today, offering some thoughts and observations on the show.

I really, really liked that there seemed to be an effort to get new wrestlers and teams promos. I saw Gino and MoM get promos on Ascension, and thought that was really great.

 

[Dave]

Boards are up. Enjoy everyone!

 

[Thriller Ant]

First RP (of two) finished already. Didn't really matter who my opponents are for this part. Clocked in just under 3000 words. Gotta shake the rust off.

>shake the rust off
>3000 words

 

[Thriller Ant]

The Men Of Mayhem segment is a little confusing, talking about a match against the tag champs, and then earning a title match at Kingdom Come.

Was the original match supposed to be Men Of Mayhem v Live Mas, and the segments weren't changed?

EDIT: Overall, 2 great shows. Yes, the delay sucked, but we all know shit happens and real life > fed life. It was a lot of fun writing for this round, and my services are always available. Very interested to see the boards, and find out what can possibly be next for Doe and Fallout after toppling the champs!

It was always you guys vs Live Más. I do didn't write the segment, but I know I was getting those two team name mixed up because they are similar to me

 

[Dave]

Yeah, I wrote that and I'll admit, I was confused. I'm sorry to everyone involved.

 

[Con T.]

Yeah, I wrote that and I'll admit, I was confused. I'm sorry to everyone involved.

To be fair, you wrote a whole lot on AS, too. Like, it seems you went into Beast Mode for the show to get out, and I think you should get kudos for taking on as much as you did.

Show review's up. Nothing too illuminating, just some things I thought went well, and some things I thought might be missing.

 

[Dave]

Meltdown and Ascension thoughts

Full Disclaimer: I'm not going to bother really worrying and critiquing the transitions between matches, and the more technical aspects of the shows. There were errors, but frankly, I'm sure that had more to do with the personal issues, and nothing more. Usually, when you have real life situations impacting shows, transitions between matches tend to be the first thing that get dropped, because it's really hard to communicate with another, and you know you want to get the show out there for everyone to see. So, yes, there were a few technical issues, but nothing I think would be too problematic past this round. So, I'll just focus in on the goods and the bads, and just offer what was done well. There was more positive than negative, but I'll try to balance them out.

Pro: Ty Burna is in the HOF

This was an excellent choice, and I think we can all agree this was a unanimous choice, by all the members of the fed and by creative. It was treated as a big deal, and right off the bat, we know who's inducted, and why he was so pivotal to the fed. This should be treated as a big deal, and it was the right thing to do to get Ty to that HOF.

Con: Missed chance at a Ty promo

Ty is also coming back next week, along with ECD. This could have been the chance to give Ty some mic time, and maybe even build to the next match. Maybe have Fallout, or MoM, interrupt Ty Burna during his big Hall of Fame speech...Or, actually, Titus could work, too. Having Titus come out and ruin Ty's big return promo (especially since his match was next) is great heel heat, but it also reminds people that, yes, Ty is not only going in to the Hall of Fame, he's also actively competing next week. Next week is the return of Ty and ECD; that should be a big deal, too.

Pro: There seemed to be a concerted effort to get newer guys promo time

I can't say how much that really helps. With newer guys, it can be really hard to get screen time aside from your match, and you can get lost in the shuffle. I really appreciated that creative seemed to want to push new guys into promo time. And it wasn't just a blurb; Galucci got a good amount of time to get over his character, and give some ideas for the character.

Con: No Theron coronation

I was a little surprised to see Theron didn't get a coronation promo for his title win. Though they did replay the title win, both Meltdown and Ascension started with Vance (and Becky. I feel like there was a great chance for Theron to celebrate his win, and Titus to (again) interrupt Theron Daggershield, and get some more heel heat.

That said, Zeus wound up looking really strong, and getting a lot of airtime, which I thank you for. I think he closed out both shows on top, which builds him up as this monstrosity now. But I think Theron could have used the opening promo of Meltdown to celebrate his victory.

Pro: The return of count outs and DQ's!!!!!!

Yes, not every match needs to end via DQ and count out, and we need clean victories. But here, we had count out victories and DQ victories that enhance characters, and further stories.

Titus wins by dastardly pretending Theron did something illegal, and gets away with it. Great!

Jonny Scumm plays the heel champion and gets counted out, to preserve getting beat. Great!

These results not only let us know who won, they also preserve the characters who lost, while influencing the characters that won. And now, Titus can use that he beat both members of the Kingdom Come main event, and he becomes a heel who is right. The very best kind of heel; that heel who is an asshole, but is also right in what he says. Meanwhile, Theron, the new champion, probably shouldn't be getting cleanly beaten his first match as champion. This preserves the character.

Pro: We have guest writers going above and beyond the call of duty.

My favorite match of the week (which I'm normally biased to, and KJ does great stuff with Zeus matches), was actually Eve/Ramparte VS MoM. It had a great psychology to it, and it really did tease the blowup of Cerberus perfectly. NSL has already gone way and above in offering feedback for RP's, and I still owe him feedback. But that match, if you really look it over, had so much great psychology to it. This was the angle that also never forgot it was a match; so many times, you see matches that are really just angles.

Abel and Garth was great, too, and the nice little touches (like Garth saying he said he would win) are great tie backs to the RP. Flex and Showtime was pretty good, though admittedly a bit short. But K Web V3 seemed to really get the psychology of the match down, and tease what we would see on Ascension, as well.

I can't say enough for the effort that was put in by NSL, K Web V3, and JAM, who put in Herculean efforts to get this show out there for us.

Thanks for the feedback, Haiku. We definitely appreciate it. I will rep you for it but I have to spread first. Like I said though, I'll get there. But I want to go over a couple of your thoughts and try to give you an explanation as to what was going on.

In terms of Ty getting some mic time, that will definitely happen next week. For me, when I was writing the announcement, I wanted it to be clean. You know when WWE announce a new HoF? They don't have the guy come out and immediately cut a promo. Ty return will be a big deal over the coming well or so and I'll make sure of it. On the next set of shows he will get the time to cut his promo and say what he wants to say. But we'll build to it using the dot com section.

Speaking of the dot com section, I want to start using it to further the angles on the show. It can be a great tool to further angles and it's my ambition to make that happen. I already have hundreds of ideas to get some traffic on there and you'll see that happen over the next few days and weeks. The Theron coronation didn't happen on MD or AS and I agree that we missed an opportunity. But we haven't forgotten about Theron and there will be movement on that in the dot come section in the next few days. That's a promise.

Finally, apologies to anyone who was involved in a technical error. It's been a stressful week for everyone but we'll be more on the ball for the next set of shows. Creative really wants to continue to give people away from the main event some TV time but we can't do it all on our own. If people have an idea for how we can use those characters then hit me up. I'm always welcoming of new ideas and will do my best to make it happen.

 

[Dagger Dias]

The Theron coronation didn't happen on MD or AS and I agree that we missed an opportunity. But we haven't forgotten about Theron and there will be movement on that in the dot come section in the next few days. That's a promise.

I thought it was because you guys didn't like my RP or something. I also never got a PM back on the ideas Haiku and I had that I sent you guys. I know things have been crazy but I do need to know before I begin this next RP if I need to abandon some aspects of the story I had planned. Could someone on creative please PM me back on that?

 

[Dave]

I thought it was because you guys didn't like my RP or something. I also never got a PM back on the ideas Haiku and I had that I sent you guys. I know things have been crazy but I do need to know before I begin this next RP if I need to abandon some aspects of the story I had planned. Could someone on creative please PM me back on that?

I'll get to you today, friend.

 

[Dagger Dias]

I'll get to you today, friend.

Appreciate it. I know it's been a chaotic few days.

 

[Con T.]

I thought it was because you guys didn't like my RP or something. I also never got a PM back on the ideas Haiku and I had that I sent you guys. I know things have been crazy but I do need to know before I begin this next RP if I need to abandon some aspects of the story I had planned. Could someone on creative please PM me back on that?

FWIW, I can imagine that some of what we want might need to get signed off by Yaz. And I think the promo was probably just an oversight; I can see that the .com section is getting built up again, so I'm sure that you start with your champion.

AND HOLY FUCK, TY BURNA PROMO ALREADY

Um.... Welp, have fun with that MoM. If you need ideas, suggestions....prayers....eulogies....PM box and stuff....

God help me

 

[Con T.]

For the record, the mask that Zeus wears to the ring against Beard looks a little something like this.

I suppose this should be the week to present you all with Psycho Zeus...

 

[Thriller Ant]

A quick side note, if you guys feel the need to rep anyone, throw some green at Dave. I don't know that we would've gotten the shows up this week without him going h.a.m. on everything

 

[Dave]

That Ty Burna RP though!? So strange seeing Ty in that sort of environment. Awesome though. Good luck MoM...

 

[Con T.]

That Ty Burna RP though!? So strange seeing Ty in that sort of environment. Awesome though. Good luck MoM...

I'm shocked it came this soon. Now, I'm curious to see where the ECD story is going.

MoM, should they win, will have beaten Cerberus and Ty and ECD on back to back weeks, though. That's a pretty impressive resume.