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Okay, first.. I was originally going to quote things & reply to them, but its too much effort & time when I already explained this to David. So once again, here goes...

MOD SPOT: First, regarding any type of mod spot. Its not like we can just add any random person to a mod spot, because they feel they should be on the creative team. Fact is, you can give opinions & stay in the loop without being a mod.. I was a moderator over other sections, & had NO access to the control room that Sincade & Enforcer were apart of.. yet "I" helped out greatly. Others can do the same.

RESPECT: I just got verbally bashed by Leore & Maxx, or Mic, or whoever he is these days, about how "I" am a ******** & constantly telling people to take their ball & go home. About how "I" disrespected David, because I said something about his Stairway to Hardcore picture being wrong.. but I said it "behind his back."

Thing is, I told him about it, he knew what I said, so it was never behind his back.. but instead, I also mentioned to Sincade & Enforcer, privately, that it was wrong.. & THAT was what was supposedly behind his back. So again, David feels disrespected.. & I've apologized for making him feel that way.. deal with it, I'm not saying I'm sorry a million times & feeling like shit, because I asked for something specific..

CREATIVE CONTROL: You have NO idea how many people have recently come to me, about wanting creative control & power. Its like a flood gate opened, & "I" just happened to be standing directly in front of the massive wave of bullshit. One guy, to me, one guy deserves creative control.. because he doesn't focus on any ONE person.. he is open about angles, decisions, & opinions. He doesn't get offended if someone doesn't like what he has to say. He doesn't get all pissy if people don't like his ideas.

All I'm gonna say is this...

David, I told you several times, you're HIGHLY RESPECTED on this forum, in this e-fed, for what you do.. but noone demands that you continue to do it. If you feel its a burden, then stop. I work my ass off behind the scenes to help Sincade & Enforcer. Sincade single-handedly basically runs this e-fed.. Enforcer does more than anyone fucking sees.. but NONE OF US bitch & moan, whenever we don't get a million thanks for what we've done.

Last time I checked, Sincade is the ONLY guy who even compliments me on anything I've done anymore.. so don't talk to me, about being respected or disrespected. I've had enough of it.

David, you ARE the head guy for the tech side of things. Hell, outside of one or two videos by Gus, you're the ONLY guy.. so you should feel in power with that alone. Everyone looks up to you for the work you do. But I'm sorry, especially when Leore & Maxx verbally bash me over this, I don't feel like getting on my hands & knees & kissing your ass, or bending over backwards for you.. when I get talked down to, like they just did.. & I might add, claim to have done it.. for you. I think you really need to understand the type of people you have going to bat for you...

Especially when it was myself, Sincade & Enforcer who were mainly responsible for your return to this forum. Leore couldn't of had ANY say in that, because Jake would've banned him for even attempting. It was myself, Sincade & Enforcer.. so once again, when you think of being respectful to someone, remember who went to bat for you & defended you being wrongfully banned.

As far as this whole "Will always says go away if you don't like it" stuff.. facts are facts. If you don't like whats happening, then like you did.. come to us respectfully.. but leave the immature kids at home, because I'm not gonna take abuse like that off the forum.. & then put you in any type of power on it.

Listen Willie, have you read that pm to sincade?, do you want me to post it in here coz i will and let people see if you disrespected david or not, the dude wants to make sure his stuff gets done what happened with all or nothing was wrong and you know what im gonna say the other parties name errm enforcer the dude posted a guys poster and ousted davids without telling him, so let me give you an option dont try and be high and mighty you say you respect david but you dont know the meaning of the word!

you make him out to be the guilty party and ousted him that is wrong and again right in this thread you took something that was in msn and publicly aired it and that aint right!

Simple fact, its mic, you got a problem with me you talk to me dont air it out on the forum man simple as!!!

Oh and one other thing, you say where childish then what is airing out your personal business in the forum?, whats that about?, so just give me the word and ill post it for you so people can judge for themselves
 
Okay Guys we are all Men (Expect Coco lol) but anyway I do not and I mean Do Not want no little bull shit hurting this fed. So listen Up Dave every Tech thing that goes down You will be notify about it. if anyone got a problem come talk to me. Now i dont want no one attacking Will because he did a shit load for this fed to. if it was for him i dont know where this fed would be!!! Now listen i dont want this shit to happen again if you got a problem with something or somebody there is something call a PM. I dont want to see personal shit on this thread or any thread again. i will not let this shit happen again
 
i aint got no problem with that boss tell willie not to air our personal msn convos on the forums
 
Okay, first.. I was originally going to quote things & reply to them, but its too much effort & time when I already explained this to David. So once again, here goes...

MOD SPOT: First, regarding any type of mod spot. Its not like we can just add any random person to a mod spot, because they feel they should be on the creative team. Fact is, you can give opinions & stay in the loop without being a mod.. I was a moderator over other sections, & had NO access to the control room that Sincade & Enforcer were apart of.. yet "I" helped out greatly. Others can do the same.

I don't know about David, but I never said that David should be a mod over this fed, or anything like that. All I said was that David should be the HEAD guy of the Tech. But a poster was placed instead of his poster (which he worked hard for) and wasn't even told. What was the point of asking him to make a poster, and I know you and Sincade and Riot had nothing to do with it.)

RESPECT: I just got verbally bashed by Leore & Maxx, or Mic, or whoever he is these days, about how "I" am a ******** & constantly telling people to take their ball & go home. About how "I" disrespected David, because I said something about his Stairway to Hardcore picture being wrong.. but I said it "behind his back."

Thing is, I told him about it, he knew what I said, so it was never behind his back.. but instead, I also mentioned to Sincade & Enforcer, privately, that it was wrong.. & THAT was what was supposedly behind his back. So again, David feels disrespected.. & I've apologized for making him feel that way.. deal with it, I'm not saying I'm sorry a million times & feeling like shit, because I asked for something specific..

I didn't bash you. All I did was speak to you about this whole shit. Yes I was apart of the 3 way conv. but I never bashed you, Will. And if I did, then please show me on MSN and I'll apologize.

CREATIVE CONTROL: You have NO idea how many people have recently come to me, about wanting creative control & power. Its like a flood gate opened, & "I" just happened to be standing directly in front of the massive wave of bullshit. One guy, to me, one guy deserves creative control.. because he doesn't focus on any ONE person.. he is open about angles, decisions, & opinions. He doesn't get offended if someone doesn't like what he has to say. He doesn't get all pissy if people don't like his ideas.

All I'm gonna say is this...

David, I told you several times, you're HIGHLY RESPECTED on this forum, in this e-fed, for what you do.. but noone demands that you continue to do it. If you feel its a burden, then stop. I work my ass off behind the scenes to help Sincade & Enforcer. Sincade single-handedly basically runs this e-fed.. Enforcer does more than anyone fucking sees.. but NONE OF US bitch & moan, whenever we don't get a million thanks for what we've done.

Last time I checked, Sincade is the ONLY guy who even compliments me on anything I've done anymore.. so don't talk to me, about being respected or disrespected. I've had enough of it

David, you ARE the head guy for the tech side of things. Hell, outside of one or two videos by Gus, you're the ONLY guy.. so you should feel in power with that alone. Everyone looks up to you for the work you do. But I'm sorry, especially when Leore & Maxx verbally bash me over this, I don't feel like getting on my hands & knees & kissing your ass, or bending over backwards for you.. when I get talked down to, like they just did.. & I might add, claim to have done it.. for you. I think you really need to understand the type of people you have going to bat for you...

I am going up to bat for him because he is my friend and he doesn't deserve what is happening to him. You think I want all of this shit to happen? I don't. But from the moment that David told me he wanted to quit the fed, I lost it.

Especially when it was myself, Sincade & Enforcer who were mainly responsible for your return to this forum. Leore couldn't of had ANY say in that, because Jake would've banned him for even attempting. It was myself, Sincade & Enforcer.. so once again, when you think of being respectful to someone, remember who went to bat for you & defended you being wrongfully banned.

Forgive me for saying this: So because you and the other 2 guys brought David back, that means that he CAN'T speak his mind? That means that just because you guys brought him back, that means that he can get trampled on, and that is ok? Because that doesn't sound fair at all.

As far as this whole "Will always says go away if you don't like it" stuff.. facts are facts. If you don't like whats happening, then like you did.. come to us respectfully.. but leave the immature kids at home, because I'm not gonna take abuse like that off the forum.. & then put you in any type of power on it.

Right...me and Mic are immature because we wish to speak our minds, gimme a break.
 
I don't know about David, but I never said that David should be a mod over this fed, or anything like that. All I said was that David should be the HEAD guy of the Tech. But a poster was placed instead of his poster (which he worked hard for) and wasn't even told. What was the point of asking him to make a poster, and I know you and Sincade and Riot had nothing to do with it.)



I didn't bash you. All I did was speak to you about this whole shit. Yes I was apart of the 3 way conv. but I never bashed you, Will. And if I did, then please show me on MSN and I'll apologize.



I am going up to bat for him because he is my friend and he doesn't deserve what is happening to him. You think I want all of this shit to happen? I don't. But from the moment that David told me he wanted to quit the fed, I lost it.



Forgive me for saying this: So because you and the other 2 guys brought David back, that means that he CAN'T speak his mind? That means that just because you guys brought him back, that means that he can get trampled on, and that is ok? Because that doesn't sound fair at all.



Right...me and Mic are immature because we wish to speak our minds, gimme a break.
WHAT THE FUCK DIDNT I SAY NOT IN THIS THREAD! STOP AIRING THIS SHIT OUT PLEASE!!!!!
 
I'm just reposting this because I think it got lost in the shuffle of the whole arguement that just happened:

I know you all are discussing the status of the Tech Department, but I feel like I dont do enough for the fed. In my opinion, it seems like all I do is post my RP and thats it. I wanna do more, so if you guys ever need a spare writer, shoot me a PM. I am kinda busy, but I know I'll find time to write a match here and there.
 
Listen Willie, have you read that pm to sincade?, do you want me to post it in here coz i will and let people see if you disrespected david or not, the dude wants to make sure his stuff gets done what happened with all or nothing was wrong and you know what im gonna say the other parties name errm enforcer the dude posted a guys poster and ousted davids without telling him, so let me give you an option dont try and be high and mighty you say you respect david but you dont know the meaning of the word!

you make him out to be the guilty party and ousted him that is wrong and again right in this thread you took something that was in msn and publicly aired it and that aint right!

Wait, did you just tell me you wanted to publicly post something that was private.. but later in this rant tell me that what is private, or out of public view should basically be kept that way? That makes a lot of since..

The fact is this, I'm warning you right now.. you attack me on this forum, I'll ban you myself. You want to drag me into a situation I wasn't apart of. You want to flame me, by claiming I don't know the meaning of the word respect, when I'd be more than willing to bet my entire mod-rights & membership to this forum that at least 10 people would go to bat in saying I'm very respectful.

Facts are facts.. you & your little cliq of David & Leore wanna ban together on this. "I" had NOTHING to do with the poster regarding the P.P.V., so don't come complaining & blaming me for it. Enforcer, to my knowledge is the one you're looking to speak with.. but even at that.. bottomline is, David needs to know, if we ask him to do something, if we feel something else could be better.. NOT to disrespect David, but we're gonna go with the better option.

Now, my opinion on the poster.. the one that was posted is shit.. because it has Maxx instead of Manzo, & Maxx isn't even in the Main Event. So thats my opinion on that. I haven't seen David's poster, so I don't know how much better or worse it could be.. but I will say this much...

All this is over a fucking poster. David, I realize you put a ton of effort into everything you do, but so does everyone else on this forum, & in this e-fed. I've given out ideas that haven't always went.. I don't blow up when they aren't used. Enforcer has come up with storylines that Sincade & I shoot down, he doesn't go nuts over it. So honestly.. its ONE poster.. sorry to say it heartlessly, but deal with it.. it could've been a lot worse.

Simple fact, its mic, you got a problem with me you talk to me dont air it out on the forum man simple as!!!

Well, Mickie.. since you apparently can't respect my name, I guess that means this would be yours. This issue, has nothing to do with you.. you personally got yourself involved. Just like the issue has nothing to do with Leore, but somehow he wants to find trouble.

My final words are as follows. You flame me on this forum, I'll ban your ass & end the problem. David, final time.. I respect you more than anything for the work you do.. you said yourself, you'll listen to what people have to say good or bad.. so please make sure you explain that to your two friends, who can't seem to understand it.
 
Guys its very simple, I posted the poster in the PPV. I had someone make the poster for me when we were first planning the ppv, hence why the characters werent teh way they should be.

DJ made a poster and even he said that he rushed it, he told me that he would make a different one once he found a better backround for it and that was the last time we talked about it. I just assumed that he wasnt going to do it and I didnt want to bug him about it because of all the things he does for the fed.

I have no problem taking the heat for it. But in all fairness 1 poster doesnt compare to all the tech stuff we use that he has made. I mean every graphic, video, etc is something that DJ made, I am just not sure why 1 poster is causing people to feel that way.

I only posted this because I didnt want anyone thinking I was trying to hide. But as Sincade has requested, lets not take this any further then it needs to go.

Thanks Guys
 
Guys its very simple, I posted the poster in the PPV. I had someone make the poster for me when we were first planning the ppv, hence why the characters werent teh way they should be.

DJ made a poster and even he said that he rushed it, he told me that he would make a different one once he found a better backround for it and that was the last time we talked about it. I just assumed that he wasnt going to do it and I didnt want to bug him about it because of all the things he does for the fed.

I have no problem taking the heat for it. But in all fairness 1 poster doesnt compare to all the tech stuff we use that he has made. I mean every graphic, video, etc is something that DJ made, I am just not sure why 1 poster is causing people to feel that way.

I only posted this because I didnt want anyone thinking I was trying to hide. But as Sincade has requested, lets not take this any further then it needs to go.

Thanks Guys

enforcer i sent you and sincade a poster for all or nothing and sincade said it was ok, you never told me about the other poster?, next time can you talk to me instead?

and the reason i got angry is because the fact that unlike before no one talks to me anymore, and i dont appreciate it but i never asked for it to be taken to this level
 
As the only member of creative left who hasn't stuck his oar in, David you're brilliant and you still owe me a Manzo video, but besides that you're a god here personally and everyone here appriciates you, Coco stop wining, Mic you'll get banned if you keep it up as NO-ONE is bigger than the fed that it wont be done, any dellusions you have about free speech are wrong (Read the Forum rules, it's a private forum ergo you have no freedom of speech rights). I just wanna say one thing which, to my knowledge, every member of creative will agree with:

IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM, ANYTHING AT ALL, SPEAK WITH US AND WE WILL SORT IT FOR YOU.

You will not get banned, flamed, disrespected, insulted, it wont be made public, you character wont be banned, nothing. Talk to us, we'll talk back. We want you here, if we didn't we'd have refused your application and/or kicked you out by now.

If it helps, I'm putting myself forward right now as your point of contact. Anyone has a problem with anything AT ALL in the fed, PM me and I personally will get back to you within 24hrs, evne if it's just to say I'm still sorting it. I'll continue to update you until the issue is resolved.

Now, lemme get a BIG peice of chalk and draw a huge line beneath all this crap right now:

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I'm just reposting this because I think it got lost in the shuffle of the whole arguement that just happened:

Originally Posted by ThEBiGBeN
I know you all are discussing the status of the Tech Department, but I feel like I dont do enough for the fed. In my opinion, it seems like all I do is post my RP and thats it. I wanna do more, so if you guys ever need a spare writer, shoot me a PM. I am kinda busy, but I know I'll find time to write a match here and there.

Ben, you don't have to do anything, that's the point. No-one has to do anything matey, you roleplaying is all you need to do, anything else is up to you. I'd say right now we have enough staff to cover everything, and as we expand we'll obviously come back to people we know can help, but right now all anyone has to do (If not already apart of something here) is roleplay and try and do well, that's the whole point of the fed. I love where your character is going, you just keep on with that son, alright?

So, what did people think of everything that happened then?! Lets talk about the PPV guys! Will regains the Elite X Title, but takes out Hedi? What is she going to say about it? Ricky, dear lord survived a massacre in the stairway to Hell match, that was insane. We lost our two number one contenders, that was insane! Grand Mystique debuted as did Jesse, both in a good match. and the MAINNNNNNNNNNN EVENT, Team Myles pulled it out of the bag, poor Manzo cost Sincade the victory, but at the same time had he not come out, Dynasty would of seen to that anyway, so what is going to go down at next weeks Meltdown?

Riot

P.S - I appriciate you Will, and tell you so :'( I feel all hurt now, think I might go cry in a corner ...
 
Ben, you don't have to do anything, that's the point. No-one has to do anything matey, you roleplaying is all you need to do, anything else is up to you. I'd say right now we have enough staff to cover everything, and as we expand we'll obviously come back to people we know can help, but right now all anyone has to do (If not already apart of something here) is roleplay and try and do well, that's the whole point of the fed. I love where your character is going, you just keep on with that son, alright?

Here ya loud and clear, Riot. I think I'm getting much better as a RPer, so I think I should take that and run with it. Writing matches, though, is something I would like to do somewhere down the line.

So, what did people think of everything that happened then?! Lets talk about the PPV guys! Will regains the Elite X Title, but takes out Hedi? What is she going to say about it? Ricky, dear lord survived a massacre in the stairway to Hell match, that was insane. We lost our two number one contenders, that was insane! Grand Mystique debuted as did Jesse, both in a good match. and the MAINNNNNNNNNNN EVENT, Team Myles pulled it out of the bag, poor Manzo cost Sincade the victory, but at the same time had he not come out, Dynasty would of seen to that anyway, so what is going to go down at next weeks Meltdown?

One thing I know for sure is that Ricky wouldn't have won without that HUGE spear from Ben Legend. He should repay him by giving him one more shot at the Mayhem Championship.

And by the way, I think I've got a good theme song for our "WrestleMania-esque" pay-per-view: Through The Fire And Flames by DragonForce. A great, upbeat song that really brings out the emotion of what a huge PPV that will be. That's just my :twocents:
 
Reaper goes to the outside, grabs a steel chair and slides it to Disasterpiece. He sets it up, grabs Kenny, kick to the gut.......EVENFLOW DDT ON THE CHAIR!*

Copeland - REF OPEN YOUR EYES!

Cohen - HAHAHAHAHA! Yes!

*Disasterpiece quickly gets rid of the evidence, sliding the chair to Reaper. Meanwhile, the ref sees that a cover has been made, 1.................2.............3! Ding ding ding!*

Harrys - Here are your winners........and NEW WZCW Tag Team Champions..........The Devilspawns!


WOOT! that is now the 2nd time in my WZCW career of holding these titles.

REAPER! I'll raise my glass and have a drink for you buddy. We deserve it!

Best damn tag team in WZCW!

also, WVC, you guys do a good job every week. Your RP's are definetly improving. They get better every show. Keep it up! It was great competing against you guys.
 
So am I going to be on the next Mayhem? I'm just curious to where my new character is going.
 
I have a serious question here. Now that everest and DC are out of the picture and me and Rios had a heated discussion over the title belt...who is the next person in line that can stand up to face Joseph R-R-R-R-R-RIOS!
 
Get a character. You know that you can't take me out of the forums, ban wise (I'm kidding) So then why don't you try taking my chaarcter out?
 
could we possibly have a new face come into the title pic or could we have rios in the like montrial screw job situation ware he gets fucked over by someone and there manager or there tagg partner?
 

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