Disasterpiece
Immortal
This isn't the WWE! This is an E-Fed! Big Difference. There is NO WAY you can compare this at all to WWE.
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WZCW Discussion Thread
- Thread starter Prax
- Start date
This isn't the WWE! This is an E-Fed! Big Difference. There is NO WAY you can compare this at all to WWE.
The Enforcer
The Heel John Cena!
What you are all not understanding is that its not like i just decided not to rp. Sincade KNEW I wasnt going to rp.
When you arent going to RP we ask that you let either myself or Sincade know right?
So why do I have to tell every single person in the fed that I wont be RP'ing? I told the other mod and he knew, plain and simple
When you arent going to RP we ask that you let either myself or Sincade know right?
So why do I have to tell every single person in the fed that I wont be RP'ing? I told the other mod and he knew, plain and simple
Disasterpiece
Immortal
no if your not going to rp ur suppose to post it in the time off thread.
. . . so that EVERYONE knows that you won't be able to so that people won't raise the bullshit flag about anything. It's all about communication man. You need to communicate with your troops in order to be a good and effective leader.
just putting a quick 7 word note in the time off thread would have been able to been read by everyone. something like "won't be able to RP. RL sitaution" would of been fine without sending EVERYONE a PM.
The Enforcer
The Heel John Cena!
All of this arguing isnt going to settle anything. I lost the match, it may not have been the way you all wanted me to lose the match but I lost.
This does not set a precedent so that people can just choose not to RP whenever they dont want to, you will still be required to let either myself or sincade know if you will not be able to RP. You will not be released nor jobbed out if the reason shows merit. If you will be gone for a longer period of time from the forum then post in the time away thread.
Is that ok with you all?
This does not set a precedent so that people can just choose not to RP whenever they dont want to, you will still be required to let either myself or sincade know if you will not be able to RP. You will not be released nor jobbed out if the reason shows merit. If you will be gone for a longer period of time from the forum then post in the time away thread.
Is that ok with you all?
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Gus
Guest
fine with me... but whats funny is that the only people really argueing are in DYNASTY, lol,
im not arguing I already said I see both points. All i said after that was that there were ways of preventing this whole thing. I.E. make an "I can't Rp for this show" thread. That way in the future if you can't RP for one particular show you can post it there. That way there are no debates or conspiricy theorys on why something happened.
Enforcer: If you could admit that maybe there was a better way that this could have been handled that would have avoided all of this bsing back and forth then I would think everyone in said debate would be satisfied.
Enforcer: If you could admit that maybe there was a better way that this could have been handled that would have avoided all of this bsing back and forth then I would think everyone in said debate would be satisfied.
The Enforcer
The Heel John Cena!
i just didnt think i had to inform everyone. if you all feel that way then i apologize
Disasterpiece
Immortal
fine with me... but whats funny is that the only people really argueing are in DYNASTY, lol,
Oh yea? . . . . . riiiiiiiiiiiiiggggghhhht . .. . .
Oh my apologies. I didn't know I was supposed to support not RPing...but really, it just sounds like you're sore that people think you should be uncrowned after not RPing in a title match. No offense, that's a bit Cococun t'ish on your part. If you didn't want anyone to actually get upset with you keeping your belt, then you should have RPed. I know you do tons for this eFed and I appreciate it greatly, probably more than you'd know, but you're lucky to have your strap, I, for one, thought you'd lose it due to not RPing. If I was champ, I'd have lost that strap for not RPing. Be happy and simmer.
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damienwhite
Guest
I pity dat fool, hes gonna be sore in the morning carrying yall on his back lol
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Gus
Guest
Oh yea? . . . . . riiiiiiiiiiiiiggggghhhht . .. . .
and Thorpe...lol
TheOneBigWill
[This Space for Rent]
Okay, I had no idea that this would blow up as much as it has. I'm not a peace-maker, & I'm not a side taker.. but this is my point of view, from both sides.
Enforcer: I get your point & before I defend that much of it. I want you to recall when we had our conversation on MSN. I told you that if you didn't at least put forth either an explanation, or a half assed Rp that said nothing more than "I'm gonna win, cause I'm the Champ." that people would complain about you breaking the rules. I felt something like this would happen.. & it seems exactly that has been done.
Now, Enforcer is correct in the storyline aspect of everything. People on the creative side of the ball shouldn't have to explain every single detail to every member of the E-Fed, just because it may turn out controversial. A perfect note for this, & for Enforcer's selflessness in some cases would be my feud with Gus..
I went to RatedR_HBK11 (Nate Thorpe) & explained to him that we could go several ways with storylines, but because of the Gus/Will feud, I felt the Championship should be involved because it would be a high-profile type feud for both Gus & myself, as well as the Championship's first "highlight." -- Thorpe agree'd that the title should remain, & thus is why our match was thrown out more or less.. Thorpe is a DAMN GOOD Rper.. & the first thing Enforcer did, was come to me & say "I'll only be okay with having it go down like this, if Thorpe is okay with it. But if he's not, I want it to be fair, because Thorpe is a great RPer to this e-fed & deserves a fair shot."
And by that, he was saying more or less.. he wasn't going to take part in having the fed play off storylines, without the RPs contributing to the outcome.
Now, the negative side is.. yes, Enforcer IS the "leader" of the E-Fed, & further more he's the World Champion.. those two things being connected automatically makes people want to point a finger in saying he could be out for himself only.. & Enforcer, even "I" admit to thinking at times from your posts.. cocky, or not, kidding or not, you have come across as "me, me, me." (anywhere from the youtube vids, to the e-wedding request, to the best of year award comments)
You & I have had our differences.. & I respect you for everything.. EVERYTHING you've done for myself, this E-Fed, & everyone involved.. so I see & understand your point of view. And I'm not disagreeing with what you have to say, but to some extent, this was an "exception to the rule" just because I believe everyone involved (Sincade, Iscariot & Myself) all felt this would blow up, if you didn't RP.
Everyone Else: The one thing that caught my eye, was someone saying this isn't like W.W.E.. but the thing is.. it IS like the W.W.E. -- we produce a show, we don't get paid like they do, but we create storylines. And in order for any E-Fed, or regular real life wrestling company to be successful, they must produce creative & attractive storylines.
Now, with an E-Fed, RPing is a must in contributing to storylines.. but with this situation, just like the Thorpe/Will situation.. not EVERYONE needs to know the behind-the-scenes stuff. If we wrote down & told everyone about how we mapped out storylines, & creative ideas/plans.. would any of you put forth the effort you do? Would any of you read like you all do? Likely not, simply because you'd then KNOW what was going to happen.
The thing that sets us apart from real life companies, is the RPs. If you don't RP, you lose.. unless theres a situation at hand. (such as Thorpe/Will, or Enforcer/Sincade, or an understanding between the individuals involved) Now I'll be the first to say I think if anyone doesn't RP & put forth an effort, they don't deserve to be here.. that goes for you to, Enforcer.
But an e-fed can't survive off RPs alone. Because what happens if one person out RPs the other, then the guy in the Main spot, drops a match to a new comer, or one timer that ends up not showing back up again? We can't create storylines around unknown.
Does this make sense to everyone else? I hope it does, because if we stick to winners being those who simply out RP the other.. then I vote for dropping a creative team altogether.. since it'd be pointless. In a LOT of situations, your RP WILL win or lose you your match.. but when it comes to special occations, such as the aformentioned Sincade/Enforcer or Thorpe/Will.. its been specially arranged & agree'd upon a fixed outcome.
I hope everyone can find a middle ground with this.. & I hope this helps everyone. I don't want to see this E-Fed go to shit because of bickering within it.
And Enforcer was correct, regarding the topic of discussion on closing off the E-Fed had been brought up on a couple different occations. Enforcer, Sincade, Iscariot & Myself were all the first ones there batting to keep it open.. because all of us love this place, & we want all members involved, to be that dedicated & loved as well. I hope this has fixed, or at least helped something.
Enforcer: I get your point & before I defend that much of it. I want you to recall when we had our conversation on MSN. I told you that if you didn't at least put forth either an explanation, or a half assed Rp that said nothing more than "I'm gonna win, cause I'm the Champ." that people would complain about you breaking the rules. I felt something like this would happen.. & it seems exactly that has been done.
Now, Enforcer is correct in the storyline aspect of everything. People on the creative side of the ball shouldn't have to explain every single detail to every member of the E-Fed, just because it may turn out controversial. A perfect note for this, & for Enforcer's selflessness in some cases would be my feud with Gus..
I went to RatedR_HBK11 (Nate Thorpe) & explained to him that we could go several ways with storylines, but because of the Gus/Will feud, I felt the Championship should be involved because it would be a high-profile type feud for both Gus & myself, as well as the Championship's first "highlight." -- Thorpe agree'd that the title should remain, & thus is why our match was thrown out more or less.. Thorpe is a DAMN GOOD Rper.. & the first thing Enforcer did, was come to me & say "I'll only be okay with having it go down like this, if Thorpe is okay with it. But if he's not, I want it to be fair, because Thorpe is a great RPer to this e-fed & deserves a fair shot."
And by that, he was saying more or less.. he wasn't going to take part in having the fed play off storylines, without the RPs contributing to the outcome.
Now, the negative side is.. yes, Enforcer IS the "leader" of the E-Fed, & further more he's the World Champion.. those two things being connected automatically makes people want to point a finger in saying he could be out for himself only.. & Enforcer, even "I" admit to thinking at times from your posts.. cocky, or not, kidding or not, you have come across as "me, me, me." (anywhere from the youtube vids, to the e-wedding request, to the best of year award comments)
You & I have had our differences.. & I respect you for everything.. EVERYTHING you've done for myself, this E-Fed, & everyone involved.. so I see & understand your point of view. And I'm not disagreeing with what you have to say, but to some extent, this was an "exception to the rule" just because I believe everyone involved (Sincade, Iscariot & Myself) all felt this would blow up, if you didn't RP.
Everyone Else: The one thing that caught my eye, was someone saying this isn't like W.W.E.. but the thing is.. it IS like the W.W.E. -- we produce a show, we don't get paid like they do, but we create storylines. And in order for any E-Fed, or regular real life wrestling company to be successful, they must produce creative & attractive storylines.
Now, with an E-Fed, RPing is a must in contributing to storylines.. but with this situation, just like the Thorpe/Will situation.. not EVERYONE needs to know the behind-the-scenes stuff. If we wrote down & told everyone about how we mapped out storylines, & creative ideas/plans.. would any of you put forth the effort you do? Would any of you read like you all do? Likely not, simply because you'd then KNOW what was going to happen.
The thing that sets us apart from real life companies, is the RPs. If you don't RP, you lose.. unless theres a situation at hand. (such as Thorpe/Will, or Enforcer/Sincade, or an understanding between the individuals involved) Now I'll be the first to say I think if anyone doesn't RP & put forth an effort, they don't deserve to be here.. that goes for you to, Enforcer.
But an e-fed can't survive off RPs alone. Because what happens if one person out RPs the other, then the guy in the Main spot, drops a match to a new comer, or one timer that ends up not showing back up again? We can't create storylines around unknown.
Does this make sense to everyone else? I hope it does, because if we stick to winners being those who simply out RP the other.. then I vote for dropping a creative team altogether.. since it'd be pointless. In a LOT of situations, your RP WILL win or lose you your match.. but when it comes to special occations, such as the aformentioned Sincade/Enforcer or Thorpe/Will.. its been specially arranged & agree'd upon a fixed outcome.
I hope everyone can find a middle ground with this.. & I hope this helps everyone. I don't want to see this E-Fed go to shit because of bickering within it.
And Enforcer was correct, regarding the topic of discussion on closing off the E-Fed had been brought up on a couple different occations. Enforcer, Sincade, Iscariot & Myself were all the first ones there batting to keep it open.. because all of us love this place, & we want all members involved, to be that dedicated & loved as well. I hope this has fixed, or at least helped something.
Steamboat Ricky
WZCW's Living Legend
Gus, I'm still waiting for your defense of my total pwning your face off earlier in the thread...
M
MR.SCOTT
Guest
rciky calm down dude, and will thanks for clearing things up, btw all i might be able to get david back on the forum jake as asked me to get him to write a poem
TheOneBigWill
[This Space for Rent]
rciky calm down dude, and will thanks for clearing things up, btw all i might be able to get david back on the forum jake as asked me to get him to write a poem
IF he's allowed back, it'll be into the prison, & for a lengthy stay.. most likely a month, two, or longer. Coconut served tons of time in there, before being released.
Even then, A.) Jake may not even bring him back to the Prison. B.) If he does, he may never get released from it. C.) And if he does, bring him back, he could get bored & reban him. (its happened before)
So seriously, DO NOT get your hopes up.. I've told David that, I'm telling you this.
M
MR.SCOTT
Guest
IF he's allowed back, it'll be into the prison, & for a lengthy stay.. most likely a month, two, or longer. Coconut served tons of time in there, before being released.
Even then, A.) Jake may not even bring him back to the Prison. B.) If he does, he may never get released from it. C.) And if he does, bring him back, he could get bored & reban him. (its happened before)
So seriously, DO NOT get your hopes up.. I've told David that, I'm telling you this.
Im not worried either way mate, ive just done my part for the guy, if he does get rebanned then thats jakes call and i wont try to fight anymore as like you ive done everything i can for the guy
The Enforcer
The Heel John Cena!
David will still be a part of the fed. He will submit his RPs to me through Email and I will post them for him.
As long as that is ok with everyone else in the fed.
Also Will thanks for your words of wisdom bro. Much appreciated.
As long as that is ok with everyone else in the fed.
Also Will thanks for your words of wisdom bro. Much appreciated.
M
MR.SCOTT
Guest
David will still be a part of the fed. He will submit his RPs to me through Email and I will post them for him.
As long as that is ok with everyone else in the fed.
Also Will thanks for your words of wisdom bro. Much appreciated.
Hey either way im glad that hes back, im gonna create a new character to be part of the fed to so im cool, i like david and appreciate what hes done with the whole maxx chracter, so if things do work out to his favour or jake says otherwise im behinnd the guy 100% hes not only a good worker but a great friend
Steamboat Ricky
WZCW's Living Legend
No, Maxx. I refuse to calm down.
TheOneBigWill
[This Space for Rent]
No, Maxx. I refuse to calm down.
Ricky, Ricky, whoa, whoa, whoa.. too much energy, too much anger, just.. whoa, man.. calm down, bring it to another level beneath the one you're on. Too much right now, too much.
Steamboat Ricky
WZCW's Living Legend
Ricky, Ricky, whoa, whoa, whoa.. too much energy, too much anger, just.. whoa, man.. calm down, bring it to another level beneath the one you're on. Too much right now, too much.
I disagree. Would you like to go Will? I will bring violence upon you.
TheOneBigWill
[This Space for Rent]
I disagree. Would you like to go Will? I will bring violence upon you.
Depends, where were you planning on us going?
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