WZCW Discussion Thread

[FlexAmerican Dynamite]

Kermit and I were having a chat shortly after I got onto creative and we wanted to push for a 3MB stable with Thrash in the Slater role, but Thrash insisted he was a serious character.

Biggest mistake he ever made, they could have been like a comedy version of the Shield.

 

[Dirk]

It would've been pretty limiting, to be honest.

 

[Skairipa Matrix]

So there's nothing on here and I see Sons of Anarchy on and decide to watch it for the hell of it and now I get how Aces & Eights were such a rip off on them.

Then I also think the whole story to this show could possibly make for an interesting gimmick if it was loosely based off the show.

 

[Blade]

I got a couple Mayhem spots I hold dearly for my character.

1. Throwing Drake Callahan off a gigantic ladder on the outside with a front facing X Plex into the ring through a table.

2. Hitting Consecrated Banishment and kicking a barbed wire bat right into Alex Bowen's face when we had our World Champ vs. Mayhem Champ match.

I feel like I wrote that second one since I wrote most of Bowen's matches when he was Mayheming it up...

 

[Viola Moonlight]

Can't wait for the One Last Stand to see what kind of crazy shit comes up in the matches. I'm expecting Vega to acquire a potato peeler or Mikey Stormrage to cosplay as CJ (or for realism, Big Smoke) from GTA San Andreas and whack the crap out of Beard with a police-issue purple didlo.

 

[Dirk]

I won't be chanting "E-C-Dub" until somebody makes a human skin scuba suit out of another wrestler.

Probably a good thing ECW didn't become the top dog, or none of the talent now would be alive.

 

[Miko]

It would've been pretty limiting, to be honest.

I reckon I'd have tons of fun with a gimmick like that

 

[Infinity]

Wait, the mayhem title is fucking off? Thank the lord.

Seconded.

Since day one of joining creative, I've been an advocate of removing one singles championship (specifically the Elite X) because 5 separate titles was too much (IMO), even during the Kingdom Come 4 season where we had 3 pages full of wrestlers on the roster pages.

Four years later, my dream has partially come true. The amount of titles we have now is a good amount and since there aren't any terrible RPers in the fed any more, there is no need for a "low-card" title. But, I won't lose any sleep should another title come into the fold.

I hate you guys.

 

[Remix]

I hate you guys.

It's nothing personal, but hardcore wrestling sucks IRL. You're better than the guttertrash title anyway.

 

[ABMorales787]

It don't more Mayhem than unmasking Anita Dick

 

[Infinity]

No I understand. I'm not taking any of this as a personal shot at me by any means... especially when anybody I've ever spoken to about this has said that they felt the title was doing more damage to me than good. "Holding me down" is the phrase I've heard thrown around a lot... though I take pride in being a Mayhem champ that had matches with nobody except "Showtime", Barbosa, and Titus for an entire cycle as opposed to "lower" or "mid-carders," and ending the run against Titus/Red Mask is pretty awesome IMO, too.

I just have a really weird connection to the Mayhem strap. It's the first and only title I've won here, and I was legitimately ecstatic when I won it nearly a year ago. I remember reading the match and throwing my hands in the air while letting our a Flair-esque "Whooooo!!!!" and my girlfriend wondering wtf was wrong with me. And going into that match, I didn't really care too much if I won or lost. Winning the Mayhem title is what made me realize I'm in WZCW for much more than killing boredom. When I won that title, I realized I actually cared deeply about being in this fed... and I think that's when I really started to find myself as a character and RPer. So, for these reasons, I hold that crappy little strap very near and dear to my heart. I was saddened to hear they were gonna retire the belt, a little distraught, too... but I knew about this over a month ago now... maybe even 2 months I think, so I've gotten over it.

Little trivia fact... the boards close on the 1 year anniversary of my title win. So, win or lose, I will have held the Mayhem Title for over 1 calendar year. Pretty sure that's never been done in this fed before, so... I'm pretty happy with that. It's no Ty Burna year long undefeated streak... but I'll take it.

 

[Dirk]

Another interesting thing to me about the reign was that when I was first looking over the WZCW roster, Vega never struck me as the sort who would dare get his hands dirty.

 

[Infinity]

Another interesting thing to me about the reign was that when I was first looking over the WZCW roster, Vega never struck me as the sort who would dare get his hands dirty.

You're kind of right. My original view for Vega is very different from what he's become. In regards to the Mayhem title, or any title, in my original bio I wrote that Vega isn't really interested in them... he prefers money over accolades and he'd probably sell the gold on the title instead of wear it... then I won the Mayhem title and I completely changed Vega's attitude from dismissive to obsessive. It's funny how sometimes our characters can get away from our original intention, and grow in a direction we hadn't originally planned.

 

[Lee]

The thing that got me put on creative was suggesting the Mayhem and Elite X be merged.

The roster grew and I brought the Eurasian belt in. I envisioned Eurasian as more old school style, Elite X as high flyign and Mayhem as just fun.

It's strangely funny that some 5 years on I'm in the last ever Mayhem title match.

 

[Ty Burna]

No I understand. I'm not taking any of this as a personal shot at me by any means... especially when anybody I've ever spoken to about this has said that they felt the title was doing more damage to me than good. "Holding me down" is the phrase I've heard thrown around a lot... though I take pride in being a Mayhem champ that had matches with nobody except "Showtime", Barbosa, and Titus for an entire cycle as opposed to "lower" or "mid-carders," and ending the run against Titus/Red Mask is pretty awesome IMO, too.

I just have a really weird connection to the Mayhem strap. It's the first and only title I've won here, and I was legitimately ecstatic when I won it nearly a year ago. I remember reading the match and throwing my hands in the air while letting our a Flair-esque "Whooooo!!!!" and my girlfriend wondering wtf was wrong with me. And going into that match, I didn't really care too much if I won or lost. Winning the Mayhem title is what made me realize I'm in WZCW for much more than killing boredom. When I won that title, I realized I actually cared deeply about being in this fed... and I think that's when I really started to find myself as a character and RPer. So, for these reasons, I hold that crappy little strap very near and dear to my heart. I was saddened to hear they were gonna retire the belt, a little distraught, too... but I knew about this over a month ago now... maybe even 2 months I think, so I've gotten over it.

Little trivia fact... the boards close on the 1 year anniversary of my title win. So, win or lose, I will have held the Mayhem Title for over 1 calendar year. Pretty sure that's never been done in this fed before, so... I'm pretty happy with that. It's no Ty Burna year long undefeated streak... but I'll take it.

Actually you'll have matched me as I held the World Title for a touch longer than a calendar year. I held it for a full PPV cycle, from Unscripted 2010 to Unscripted 2011. 8/29/2010 to 10/23/2011.

Either way your reign has been extremely impressive. The amount of successful defenses is impressive, and you've taken out some very good talent along the way. You're deserving to retire the Mayhem title.

 

[Барбоса]

I must get on my RP.

Will be away for most of the next two days.

 

[Dagger Dias]

The thing that got me put on creative was suggesting the Mayhem and Elite X be merged.

Who was on creative at the time out of curiosity?

 

[a0161613]

I am not shy in saying that I don't like the retirement of the title but feel that if Vega hadn't been so good then it wouldn't be happening. Its the biggest backhanded compliment that Infinity will get.

 

[Барбоса]

Can't say I am a fan of it being retired the way it is. While I suppose that fits in with the new regime, it seems sudden and largely arbitrary.

Now, a feud between Vega and the one of the other singles champions that culminates in a unification match would have been better and would have the extra bonus of not having the Mayhem title being discarded.

 

[Infinity]

Actually you'll have matched me as I held the World Title for a touch longer than a calendar year. I held it for a full PPV cycle, from Unscripted 2010 to Unscripted 2011. 8/29/2010 to 10/23/2011.

Either way your reign has been extremely impressive. The amount of successful defenses is impressive, and you've taken out some very good talent along the way. You're deserving to retire the Mayhem title.

You son of a bitch.

Spoiler

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What are the chances Total Mayhem will be delayed 2 months? Anyways, thanks for the kind words, means a lot coming from you... but I haven't retired the belt just yet. Still have my toughest title defense left to go IMO. Beating Lee twice in a row won't be easy, to say the least.

I am not shy in saying that I don't like the retirement of the title but feel that if Vega hadn't been so good then it wouldn't be happening. Its the biggest backhanded compliment that Infinity will get.

When JGlass broke the news to me, that's kind of how I took it... but I did also offer to drop the belt instead of having them retire it. Part of me feels a little guilt. I actually think that the belt could do a lot of good in the lower card division right now. At the time I mentioned talent such as Dr. Coberer, Bobby Adams, Corvus, Theron Daggershield, Grizzly Bob, Dutin Hunter, etc... would all benefit from having a singles title to feud over, and I started to feel like it was my fault that they didn't. I had matches and feuds with guys like Ricky Runn and Krypto over the belt when I first started and we've all gone on to do pretty well since. Ultimately the decision was already made, and the retirement of the belt will continue as planned.

I was a little bummed about it, but more so because of the death of the mayhem division, not because they took away "my title" or something... I've been ready to move on from the Mayhem title for a while now. Ultimately, I'm pretty happy with the way it's playing out at least. I'm enjoying my feud with Titus/Red Mask... and having it as the final feud in the Mayhem Division is pretty cool IMO.

Can't say I am a fan of it being retired the way it is. While I suppose that fits in with the new regime, it seems sudden and largely arbitrary.

Now, a feud between Vega and the one of the other singles champions that culminates in a unification match would have been better and would have the extra bonus of not having the Mayhem title being discarded.

I don't know why but I honestly never thought of a unification match. I don't really mind that I'm not getting one, mostly because as I said earlier, I like the angle I'm in right now. Although I will say this... the only singles champion I've never faced is S.H.I.T. The thought of a Vega vs S.H.I.T. in a Mayhem Rules Unification Match for both of our titles does sound pretty cool to me.

 

[Lee]

Who was on creative at the time out of curiosity?

Ricky, Will, can't remember who else.

 

[Bernkastel]

Scrambles the Death Dealer is upon Bowling Green!!! Woooooooooo!!!

 

[Viola Moonlight]

Can't say I am a fan of it being retired the way it is. While I suppose that fits in with the new regime,it seems sudden and largely arbitrary.

Now, a feud between Vega and the one of the other singles champions that culminates in a unification match would have been better and would have the extra bonus of not having the Mayhem title being discarded.

Funny you mention that as the earliest Kingdom Come V card designs actually featured a unification match with one of the titles being the Mayhem. Due to multiple factors, plans were scrapped.

 

[Richard Blonoff]

Since I got on creative there have been talks of retiring it.

 

[Beastmode 24]

SEA! HAWKS!!