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I could've sworn you did - I thought you left after KC last year?

Yeah, I left at KC. But after I left Creative a few months before that, I didn't really keep track of the fed except for when I needed to RP. So I'm not familiar with people who debuted last year. So this is really my first chance checking out guys like you and Stormrage
 
Yeah, I left at KC. But after I left Creative a few months before that, I didn't really keep track of the fed except for when I needed to RP. So I'm not familiar with people who debuted last year. So this is really my first chance checking out guys like you and Stormrage

So you did. Well in the time you were away we became the first two time tag champions ever, feuded with Saxoteur eventually getting the titles off them at the same time I had to quit - which is a shame. That being said it's led to the current thing with the Sacrificial Altar which will hopefully build to something pretty special at KC.
 
I'm becoming convinced that anyone confused by the TSA events at the show hasn't read it properly. I'll admit its unnecessarily complex on first read. I hated it at first.
 
I loved it. Hell, I was returning and didn't know half of what was happening.

I'm not complaining about that though. I loved that about it.
 
I'm becoming convinced that anyone confused by the TSA events at the show hasn't read it properly. I'll admit its unnecessarily complex on first read. I hated it at first.

Definitely had a "What the fuck!?" reaction at first. I can't stop picturing me stealing a bazooka from DC to obliterate Mikey now.
 
The whole thing made my brain hurt initially but once you combine the match finish with the segment(s) and the events of the Lottery there's clearly several pieces of a MASSIVE feud falling into place.

Sam Smith is looking for a feud by the way but I think he's too big for it - right now most/all of the frigging mid-card is already involved.
 
The whole thing made my brain hurt initially but once you combine the match finish with the segment(s) and the events of the Lottery there's clearly several pieces of a MASSIVE feud falling into place.

Sam Smith is looking for a feud by the way but I think he's too big for it - right now most/all of the frigging mid-card is already involved.

It's a beautiful clusterfuck.


I'm super excited to see how it plays out. I knew coming back that I would be a face and all, but when I saw you come back I knew the shit was on.
 
Yeah, I left at KC. But after I left Creative a few months before that, I didn't really keep track of the fed except for when I needed to RP. So I'm not familiar with people who debuted last year. So this is really my first chance checking out guys like you and Stormrage

And me... who you eliminated. Bastard.


I read the show last night but then had to immediately step out, so I couldn't leave some fb. Unfortunately, even though I'm not as big a noob as Grizzly is, I'm still relatively new here, having about 7 months under my belt now... so a lot of the returns that made some WZCW veterans excited or mark out just kind of fell flat for me. In fact, the only return that I actually got wide eyed and jaw dropped for was James Howard's. That's nothing against the writing or creative, it's just a matter of circumstance. I've heard of some of those names so I'm eager to have them injected back into the roster. I don't know much about Blade, but I knew he was returning... and if Vega was gonna be eliminated, I'm glad it was by a big name return.


Congratulations to JGlass & Doc for re-capturing the tag titles. No offense to Beard & Masque, those straps always felt weird around their waists. Maybe that's just because I debuted with Saxoteur as tag champs.

I enjoyed most of Stormrage vs Mystique, but felt the ending was a little much with the lights going out twice and a net being shot out of a cannon and two returns in the aftermath and etc. I kind of felt like the aftermath was losing me a little.

It didn't really help that the aftermath of the very next match involved the lights going out as well, but it wasn't too damaging at all. I would have just thought we could get more creative ways of getting from point A to point B than having the lights go out 3 times in 2 matches. That's honestly the only snag I thought the show hit. The match itself, Drake/Dragon, was great.

Everything else was pretty awesome.

I was surprised to see Steven Holmes win the title, but I was happy to see the title switch. Not that I didn't like Showtime, I just wanted to see something a little different in the Main Event scene. This feud left a little more to be desired but the match was great. Celeste's turn was done very well, including the build up through the last cycle. Holmes' victory was extremely heelish, perfect for his character.


The LL match itself was a lot of fun to read. You can really tell how hard that match had to have been to write, and I think creative did a great job keeping tracks of all the people involved in the match and trying to give each superstar at least one moment in the match to remember. I actually think the only person I feel bad for is Thrash, because he came in... looked for Vega, landed a moonsault across his knees, and then got tossed out by somebody. He's basically the only wrestler I remember not really getting something fun in the match. Even Brent Blaze got an elimination before getting eliminated himself.

Selfishly speaking, I'm stoked that Triple X & Vega had perhaps the best spot of the entire match... and the Mayhem Champion ended up eliminating the Eurasian Champion in the process. I hope we go somewhere with that.

I thought Rush was shown the respect he deserved in this match, and was actually surprised to not see Sam Smith in the Final Four. I had a final four of Rush, Smith, Drake, & Constantine... but I hadn't accounted for Ty Burna's return... which I guess I should have. It was the most heavily foreshadowed return of all time, I just didn't know it was gonna take place at the LL match itself.

Personally, I actually thought Drake should have won it, but didn't think he would. I thought creative was rolling out the red carpet for a Showtime vs Sam Smith main event at KC... but uh... nevermind!

I also thought the writings on the wall spelled out Ty Burna vs Drake Callahan at Kingdome Come as well... but with Drake guaranteed a title shot at the KC Main Event... I'm actually curious to see if this means we'll get Holmes vs Callahan or if somehow Ty Burna will get a shot at Holmes before KC to set up Burna vs Callahan for the Title. Although I wouldn't agree with that, I wouldn't be surprised by it in the least.


I'm excited for this next cycle leading to Kingdom Come. And I echo Crock's sentiments about getting a feud, but I think doing some squeaking in creative's ear this past week might have finally gotten this wheel some oil. Now go oil up Crock. Maybe now that neither Rush nor Smith are getting World Title shots or holding gold of their own, they realize their alliance has gotten them nowhere and turn on each other... because unless you give both of them re-matches for their old titles, Shotaro is kinda right on point.
 
Also, hey Coco bbz.
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Gotta say, I was expecting Triple X to win, considering the ways Holmes won the title shot. I'm pretty surprised, but I'm not complaining.

So, is Callahan versus Holmes the first main event in KC history to be heel vs heel?
 
Nick PagLeeno said:
WZCWzone is reporting that Creative is high on Action Saxton and Saboteur and expect them to step it up into the main event scene, turning the Kingdom Come main event into a fatal four-way. Officials believe the prospect of either fan-favorite becoming a double-champion will be enough to pop buyrates going into the biggest event of the year.

You heard it here first, folks.
 
Not to be that guy, this is genuine curiosity. Chalk it up to anticipation. But roughly how long is this break and when can we expect a card. I'm not asking for anything definite and there isn't an answer that's cool. I've been back about two weeks or so, I'm just ready to start.

And, that was a great show you guys put together. Thanks for adding in some DC action in the LL.

At the end of the Lethal Lottery show, I made mention of when the next card would be up and when the next RP deadline should be.

I also thought the writings on the wall spelled out Ty Burna vs Drake Callahan at Kingdome Come as well... but with Drake guaranteed a title shot at the KC Main Event... I'm actually curious to see if this means we'll get Holmes vs Callahan or if somehow Ty Burna will get a shot at Holmes before KC to set up Burna vs Callahan for the Title. Although I wouldn't agree with that, I wouldn't be surprised by it in the least.

Apostles of Chaos and Chris vs. Ty must of been before your time. The money maker is the feud between Chris K.O. and Ty Burna.
 
At the end of the Lethal Lottery show, I made mention of when the next card would be up and when the next RP deadline should be.



Apostles of Chaos and Chris vs. Ty must of been before your time. The money maker is the feud between Chris K.O. and Ty Burna.

The moneymaker is wherever Drake Callahan is at. He could wrestle Donny J and sell out the place.
 
I love Ricky's unlucky streak. I feel for Pancake, but from an entertainment perspective, it's hilarious...
 
Well I pm'ed creative and I really hope I'm allowed back in. In other news...LL is amazing. I marked out for the returns especially coco. Hats off to them for all their hard work and I hope the road to KC is just a big.
 
I went ahead and made default announcements for everyone on the active roster. Here is an example of one:

Announcement:

Harrys: Introducing first, from Las Vegas, Nevada, weighing 130 pounds, Amber Warren!

Harrys: And the challenger, from Las Vegas, Nevada, weighing 130 pounds, Amber Warren!

Harrys: Making her way to the ring, from Las Vegas, Nevada, weighing 130 pounds, Amber Warren!

If you want your's to be altered in anyway, head over to the character change thread and request it. As long as it lines up with your application, it will be fine. As creative members, we will add whether the person is a champion or not. So, don't worry about requesting a change if you are a champion. Basically, having the announcement text there is a small time saver for creative when writing matches. Plus, it'll allow you tell us exactly how you want to be announced (within the mandatory template).
 

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