WZCW Discussion Thread

[Phoenix]

Interesting, so for preview images for each show shall I alternate between the two to reflect that then yeah?

 

[Hyorinmaru]

I'll PM you if it's gonna be Violent J. If you don't hear from me it's Malenko

 

[Phoenix]

Okie dokie, cheers for the heads up!

 

[NSL]

I just want to say thank you to everyone who gave feedback. I was worried about some things, and under-estimated myself. Hopefully I'll be able to keep it up, and give some feedback of my own as time goes on

 

[Blade]

Yeah, thanks from me too. It's good to get feedback from experienced guys and newer guys alike.

 

[Father:_Polley]

History question... mainly for Lee/Ricky. Has anyone ever held two belts, I know Milenko has, but has anyone else and what?

 

[Harthan]

History question... mainly for Lee/Ricky. Has anyone ever held two belts, I know Milenko has, but has anyone else and what?

Will has had Elite X and World, I know. I'll dig through the records to see if there's anyone else.

I wouldn't know about anything prior to the new incarnation, though.

 

[Father:_Polley]

He had Elite X but I think he lost it the PPV before he won the HW belt

 

[Phoenix]

He had Elite X but I think he lost it the PPV before he won the HW belt

That is correct there, I remember that one. He lost the Elite X title on the same night he won the Lethal Lottery if I'm not mistaken?

Will is also the only person to hold the Elite X belt twice.

Now I have a question, it concerns title reigns, because dates are spread out between shows, especially back in the old days, would you count a reign by the days or by each show on here?

ie - The Devilspawns won the tag titles at All or Nothing and lost them on Meltdown 12 (26th Jan - 4th April 2008) would you count their reign as a 68 day reign or a two show reign?

 

[Lee]

a two show reign.

Also Everest is a former Mayhem and former world champion

 

[Lee]

Will has had Elite X and World, I know. I'll dig through the records to see if there's anyone else.

I wouldn't know about anything prior to the new incarnation, though.

that doesn't count

 

[Phoenix]

Ah cheers for that Lee. I'm definitely liking the trivia facts that are coming with the PPV.

Here's one I found out.

The Tag Team Titles are going into their first ever defence on a WZCW PPV. For 3 out of 4 PPVs they have been contested while vacated and the forth was an all or nothing match between Michaels & NorCal who held the belts together. They've only been defended on Meltdown on three occasions.

 

[Father:_Polley]

An idea. I get sick going through archives to track down my RPs to reference. So what if each user was given a thread to archive their own RPs and quote them into one post (so no post count boosting went on)

Like this...
Apotheosis & Vengeance vs Agrex and Eric Smith

The room is dark, only the eerie glow of a flickering candle in Vengeance's clasped hands illuminating his frame and hooded face

Master, it is time to go into the midst of the abominations and purge their rotten core. They were given fair notice to change their ways and they did not. Instead, they have carried on in their misguided ways...in violence, betrayal and lust after riches. It is these which I have been sent to destroy and to show the error of their ways, and I will start with ridding WZCW of two of those who lust after gold, and are blind to the damage it causes. I ask that you give me the strength, the focus to stick to my task, making me worthy of your calling

Agrex, Eric Smith, and everyone else who have transgressed...cry out to the master, recognising the error of your ways. He is gracious and will show mercy to your souls. Your bodies however (evil chuckle), they belong to me, and I am not so merciful. Instead I will execute vengeance in anger and in fury on the flesh, such as they have not heard in times past.

Apotheosis, changed one, I see the way of the master within you. Together, we shall make an example of the two proud, covetous individuals, judge them with fire, purging away the dross. And you shall recognise, (raising voice to shouting) that I AM YOUR JUDGE, JURY, AND EXECUTIONER! TETELESTAI (greek for finished) <Blows out candle>

<Whispers in the darkness> Vengeance is mine

etc...

A camera is in the backstage area, in the arena, the faint sound of cheering can be heard, as 10000 Fists can be heard, indicating Rush's entrance for his match.

The camera walks down the corridor, until it comes to a door and stops, getting a shot of the sign



The door opens, and the camera goes into the room, taking time to adjust to the dim light of two pillar candles at one end. Music is playing from a speaker hidden in the darkness


(press play)

A voice comes from the darkness

?: You seem surprised by the choice of music to focus for such an important encounter...

The camera moves to focus on the source, faintly making out a black figure in the shadows, but unable to focus through the light of the candles

?: Well, it comes as no surprise to me that you aren't able to comprehend. After all, in his entire time in WZCW, no-one was able to keep up with the twists of the kaleidoscope associated with him.

Look around at those who have tried to stand against him... Eric Derf fell, Daniel Stokes was destroyed, Titus has been humiliated by his planning, even the WZCW Heavyweight Champion holds a belt which is only his because of the desire to inflict more psychological pain.

Vengeance has always been a man of the unexpected. Disasterpiece was unexpected, Leon's betrayal was unexpected, and yet the intelligence to perfectly execute the intricate detail shows a man who is calculating, not ruled by emotion. Not only did he have the savage bloodlust of our Norse heritage, he planned. He was everything fear

Look around at those he turned on who deserted him. Leon is alone, suspended and confined to a secure institution to aid his recovery. The 'Master' Disasterpiece has been chased away from WZCW because of his inability to do the job Vengeance prepared for him.

And even now the unexpected is taking place. For as he prophesied, Vengeance is indeed dead, but not physically. For you see, the old Vengeance you knew, the Vengeance you feared, the Vengeange you LOATHED... he is gone. The old has passed away, and behold, everything is become new. Vengeance made your burden heavy, I while increase it... the beatings he gave you, I will give harder.

The Broken Soul has been unleashed, and Titus, you will be the first to feel the intensity it brings.

Pauses

?: Do you hear Titus? Do you hear the crowd grow silent? Can you feel the time slipping away? You have fought with him so many times, and not once have you succeeded, how can you hope to retain what I want? For he would have fought with conviction, but not for any of his own gain, but all the betrayals have killed that person. Now, I fight for what I want, and nothing will stand in my path unless I so choose.

There is shuffling, the figure is lifting something up in the darkness. Vengeance's ring attire is thrown into the light between the candles.

?: How did it feel Titus? How did it feel to have someone you trusted, someone you felt you had given hope to, turn and knife you. Not even subtly, but a blatant betrayal. It hurts doesn't it? I'll wager you can still feel the exact spot ache as you listen!

It makes you want revenge, to give in to your base desires. And that's where the two of us differ Titus. You want justice, I want destruction. I don't see you as the moviestar, I don't see you as a superhero, I don't even see you as a wrestler. I see you as the source of all my pain, for you remind me of something I lack. I lack gold. Vengeance came close, but I will follow through.

Remember the words of the song Titus. For you, they will become true. Tonight, you face the one thing you should fear more that your original opponent.

A hand appears on the candle holders and knocks them onto Vengeance's ring attire, which go up in flames immediately, apparantly covered in petrol.

?: Tonight, the Broken Soul is coming for you. Tonight you face Lars Reidar.

As he steps over the flames, before he comes into sight, the camera flickers

Image of static signal

Thoughts? Not on my debut RP though

 

[Phoenix]

Not a bad idea, maybe they could put on the roster pages? Like after each profile has a post with the RP from Meltdown & the PPVs, that would help with tracking abit.

PS - Everyone who RPed in the PPV has got feedback from me

 

[NSL]

I don't want to quote everyone that gave feedback, but I'm happy my RP was well received, and was a lot better than I even gave it credit for. Here's the last two I saw, that had stuff for me to comment on.

Steel - you started with a shot at Infamous and used interaction between two heel announcers well. Yet you site Titus as the example to follow?!? Dude, you lost me with that. Lol. No, it set you up to show your goal... gold at all cost. You want to succeed and make it to prove you can be a success. Good job NSL. Expect more from you next time...

The shot at Infamous was a last second thing for me. I had a good idea for the rest of the RP, but getting started was a killer. I figured it was a little more natural this way. I try and use heel interviewers, so I can say/do heel things, while maintaining my face status.

Trevor Steel
Firstly, bonus points for giving my tag team that nice little honour there lol. And hoorah, a face in the woods! I know writing face RPs can be tough cause you have to be the good guy but I loved this RPs, the energy, the charisma, the respect, this was a great piece of RP work! You've established yourself greatly and shown us some determination, you're a person going to go for it and you respect who you will have to face along the way. I like Trevour and I like that he's different, similiar to a Mick Foley attitude with being nice but darn right crazy with his methods. Great RP and I look forward to seeing more.

After reading through all the RPs, I think myself and Excellency are the only faces in here. Should be interesting going forward, with a fresh batch to feud against. If you read my first development RP, you'll see that I was channeling Mick a lot there. I thought back to his promo against Orton, and turned it into something I would say/do in that position. For this RP, I actually re-read the RP with his voice in my head, to see if it flowed right. He's honestly one of my favorite promo men ever.


Again, thanks to everyone. I'm glad I impressed, and hope I can live up to the expectations...

 

[Phoenix]

No worries NSL, glad to give the feedback.

As the anticipation for Civil Revolution comes, here's some more preview trivia:

- This is the Second Civil Revolution in the history of WZCW

- The only members of the current roster who appeared on the first CR are Steamboat Ricky, The One Big Will (currently injured), Reaper (who's just returned) & Everest, who will be in his second World title match at this PPV.

- This PPV marks the anniversary of the Elite X Championship, of which was first fought over at this event, where Big Will was crowned the first champion

- Speaking of new titles and champions, the EurAsian Championship will debut at this PPV, being contested with newcomer Ty Burna & current Mayhem Champion Drake Callahan.

- Along with the EurAsian Championship, the Tag Team & Mayhem Championships will make their first appearance on this PPV as they didn't exist the first time around.

- WZCW Stars making their PPV debut: Rush and Ty Burna (Contract Battle Royale participants are not under contract yet so I can't include them)

- Both Civil Revolutions will both have No. 1 Contenders matches featured on their listings, the difference being one was the World Title, the other for the EurAsian title.

- This will be the second time that the World Heavyweight Championship will be contested in a Triple Threat Match. The first time was to crown the first ever World Champion, Joseph Rios.

- This will be Everest's 5th World Title match, only in one of his previous bouts he has entered as the Champion.

- With the exception of Milenko & Everest, all title challengers are looking to claim their first reign as their respective champion. Drake Callahan will be in two title bouts for the first time in WZCW history to be the first to claim two titles at one time.

- If posted today (Friday 17th) this PPV will be live exactly two years since Meltdown 2. WZCW first debuted 2 years ago on 21st June (Meltdown 24 aired a day before the anniversary, why didn't I nerdly notice that before!)

 

[michigan]

alright Phoenix did you have to put in that part about only once walking out champion. Now I'm gonna have to go out and not be a chump and win this match. Great review of the Civil Revolution History. We should have a thread for this type of thing that would be pretty cool. Thanks again.

Everest

 

[Phoenix]

It was actually meant to say walked in as the champion lol. But I did just correct that. Everest is no chump, he's a legend!

And no worries for providing the history lesson, was abit of fun I wanted to try out.

 

[Harthan]

Assuming everyone has their matches ready (I will layeth the smacketh down if they're not) the show'll be up around midnight, if not sooner. Would have been earlier, but of course, the day I'm supposed to have a PPV ready, I get slammed with all sorts of work and bullshit.

Expect it within a few hours. Remember that creative is going to take a week to plot out our storylines and get all kinds of stuff ready, so the MD boards won't be up for a week. You'll have the regular two weeks once they go up.

 

[Ty Burna]

Cool thanks for the update Harthan. And congrats ahead of time for losing to the first Eurasian Champion .

 

[Harthan]

Cool thanks for the update Harthan. And congrats ahead of time for losing to the first Eurasian Champion .

Taunting the man what be making those decisions might not be the best idea for your championship prospects.

 

[Harthan]

Right then folks, you all know about the Great WZ Crash of '09, I've just gotten back onto the forums this minute, so the show will be up tonight, sometime later in the evening.

To adjust for the time, I'm going to shorten the creative break to 6 days rather than the full week so we can get the schedule back together after all this.

I'm just glad that for once, the delay wasn't our fault.

 

[Ty Burna]

Taunting the man what be making those decisions might not be the best idea for your championship prospects.

And what fun would it be to play it safe all the time. I like to poke the tiger with a stick to see how long until I can get bit.

Plus a little friendly trash talk just adds to the drama .

 

[Harthan]

I hate to do this to you guys but I've got plans tonight and wasn't expecting to be writing the PPV. I've also had several matches not get to me that I was supposed to have, and I have to leave the house in about 40 minutes or so. I'm gonna get as much as I can done, but I can't make it before I have to leave.

I'm gonna get everything else together tonight and it will be up probably around midnight or so. I'm real sorry about all this, just crazy circumstances.

 

[Muffin Top Merkley]

Stupid Life!

Always getting in the way.


Don't sweat it....But it better be damn good! lol