WZCW Discussion Thread

[Hyorinmaru]

For a man who hasnt won a match here. Derf sure thinks he has what it takes to tell people how to write a good RP.

I have to say this take it any way you want. He may not have won a match here but Derf knows how to write Rps and he is qualified to give advice. he is a Champion in another fed the two of us are in so I think that qualifies him to give advice and have people listen to him.

In closing this Derf bashing needs to stop, he's not even a part of WZCW anymore but he still comes in and tries to help.

 

[Steamboat Ricky]

Chillun, chills.


Everyone is entitled to opinions. Tis the great part of discussion forums. As long as you can stand by them, then that's cool.


Derf, you do come off as sharp and elitist in some of your reviews. Whether you are doing it on purpose or not, that's up for debate. But realize that there are many ways to skin a cat. For instance, intense description may not be the best tactic. The trick with an RP is to get the point across while keeping the reader's attention. Description can bore the reader. Sometimes, however, exhaustive description is a good tool, but it's not the be all end all. But you do always do feedback, and that's cool.

Monkey, even if Derf's RPs were horrid, that doesn't necessarily mean that his reviews are worthless. I'm sure that Wilt Chamblerain couldn't play Dwight Howard out of a paper bag, but that doesn't mean he wouldn't have some valuable advice for the guy.

 

[Derf]

Chillun, chills.


Everyone is entitled to opinions. Tis the great part of discussion forums. As long as you can stand by them, then that's cool.


Derf, you do come off as sharp and elitist in some of your reviews. Whether you are doing it on purpose or not, that's up for debate. But realize that there are many ways to skin a cat. For instance, intense description may not be the best tactic. The trick with an RP is to get the point across while keeping the reader's attention. Description can bore the reader. Sometimes, however, exhaustive description is a good tool, but it's not the be all end all. But you do always do feedback, and that's cool.

Monkey, even if Derf's RPs were horrid, that doesn't necessarily mean that his reviews are worthless. I'm sure that Wilt Chamblerain couldn't play Dwight Howard out of a paper bag, but that doesn't mean he wouldn't have some valuable advice for the guy.

First off, thank you. Next, I don't even know what "sharp and elitist" means lol. But as far as my feedback goes, all I said was one long paragraph could have been broken up a bit, make the RP itself a bit longer. Thats about it. Excluding NorCal in the past two shows, I've never seen anyone complain about feedback, I'm just trying to get my point across in the simplist way.

And I agree with Milenko about the "Derf Bashing". Obviously, I want it to stop. All I ever do here is tr to help. I take part in just about everything I can, I post in all the newly started threads, I ALWAYS do feedback for everyone, and I offer advice and opinions. I'm not doing it to encourage bashing, I do it to keep the fed lively, hoping that with some of my posts, people will reply to them, but not in the negative way they've been replyed to.

Lee, I don't know what the match outcome is going to be for either match. Whatever happens with the tag title match, I trust the staff to make the right choice, all I was saying is what I would have done. I don't know what you plan, thats part of the surprise, but as far as Rios goes, I stand by my statment, only I think you misunderstood me. My biggest problem with having this match, is that unless things are booked against the rules, Milenko and Legend were fucked from the start by having a partner everyone knows won't RP. I think you guys need to stop worrying about Rios, and start worrying about the other RPers before they leave.

Monkey, quite simply, what you said was just rude.

And NorCal, my feedback is ment to help you, as is everything else I try to do with this fed, it's ment to help you and the others. Please stop abusing me for trying to help.

 

[Monkey_Mania]

I'm not a nice guy. I dont wear a white hat. I call things the way I see them. Spice things up. And I march to the beat of my own drum. I am probably a big part of the reason Derf is leaving. If he cant put up with me being in WZCW and speaking my mind then maybe I should shut it. But then again I really dont care what anyone thinks so in case anyone else wants to complain about me being an asshole they can do so. Just remember you look stupid doing it.

 

[Steamboat Ricky]

I'm not a nice guy. I dont wear a white hat. I call things the way I see them. Spice things up. And I march to the beat of my own drum. I am probably a big part of the reason Derf is leaving. If he cant put up with me being in WZCW and speaking my mind then maybe I should shut it. But then again I really dont care what anyone thinks so in case anyone else wants to complain about me being an asshole they can do so. Just remember you look stupid doing it.

Of course you don't.

 

[Monkey_Mania]

Oh look its Steamboat Ricky. I wonder where he's been all this time. Maybe he is on that high horse of his again...Or maybe he got lonely and took his parrot behind the poop deck.

 

[Steamboat Ricky]

Your attempt at being funnier than me failed.

 

[Monkey_Mania]

Who said I was trying to be funny? I wasnt. I was being serious. Like I have said. I'm not a nice guy. You don't like it? Tough.

 

[Danmen001]

"I march to the beat of my own drum"...

Hmm, I think I've heard that somewhere before, eh Monkey?

Anyhow, I appreciate the feedback anyone gives. And I'm not a big fan of Derf bashing, and I honestlly don't see how he hasn't won a match here yet.

Also, a question. Is this show going to be in the new 'match overveiw' description.

 

[a0161613]

I wanted to stay quiet but I have to say this.

Derf knows he is good. I know he is good because I have seen his work in the other fed. At this moment in time there are no bad RPers in WZCW because every RP that I have seen for this episode has more stength than weakness.

I would have to say Norcals' is the weakest but he is the least experienced and if he could take CONSTRUCTIVE criticism a bit better then he will improve very quickly.

I will wait to see the outcome of the tag match before commenting further, but I expect it to be used to further another character. It was the perfect chance to put the belts on charaxcters that could do something with them.

Ditto for the main event but with 4 RPs to 1, the outcome is clearer in that one. The story development is more important there IMO.

 

[Lee]

At least I wrote one, Mr Champion.

The only person who told me hey wouldn't get an RP in time was Monkey so once again before you go off on one realise that there's more going on than you see.

Everyone else who didn't RP didn't tell me the craic.

 

[Lee]

OK my lovelies, due to New Year we're slightly delayed with the show.

It should be up by this evening and the card for Meltdown 17.

 

[Lee]

OK guys meltdown 16 is up as is the Meltdown 17 preview/card and roleplays are open.

Meltdown 16 is here

Meltdown 17 preview is here

FEEDBACK FOR THE NEW LOOK MELTDOWN IS APPRECIATED!

 

[Danmen001]

I thought it was good, shorter, and it shows that longer shows aren't neccessary. By the same token, I think that instead of writing out full matches, just because it's a PPV, isn't really neccessary. I'd much rather have the show up quikcer than for it to take miserably long, just to have a longer show.

Anyway, I thought the outcomes were good and made sense... I must say though, I'm a little disappointed in losing again, although I'm not entirely sure (after reading the show 17 reveiw) if that was just because "The Master" was debuting.. or I was actually just beaten lol.

The next show looks good as well, so you get a good from me.

 

[Lee]

Figured this would be seen here more readily than the Charcter Changes Thread

DONE as promised!

 

[Lee]

And thanks for your kind words Dan, see your PM you'll see how much I think you rock!

 

[Shock]

Friends, Romans, Countrymen, lend me your ears. I have an announcement.

Ladies and gents, I am done here. I no longer want to take part in WZCW. This is for a few reasons. One, I don't like how things are done. You know that, I know that, done deal. Two, I am in two other e-feds and creating another. In one, I am switching to my manager, Aiden. The reason being because I can't come up with new ideas for Shock all the time and he will get boring, so I needed to choose between this fed and another. Therefore, I chose the better e-fed. The one that is not this. Three, this fed is a piece of crap. The only reason I have stayed is because I was hoping to make it better, but I see that I can't, so I won't try anymore. I will, however, continue to make graphics for the fed, so you don't have to worry about that. But that is all I will do for the fed from now on. No planning, no recruiting, nothing. Take me off Creative. Take me off the roster. Thank you, and goodbye.
By the way, I was telling people Creative-only information the whole time.

 

[Steamboat Ricky]

Nope, no graphics needed.

Thanks for taking the time to bash us again as you exit. As far as I'm concerned, don't let the door hit you on the way out.

 

[Steamboat Ricky]

Plus, you can't quit. Why?

YOU'RRRRRRRRRRRRRE FIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDDDDD​

 

[Derf]

I'll admit I was iffy on the way Lee described the new show strategy, but I will say that it looks like it could work pefectly. The shows are shorter, but they still have the length to make them a good read. I also like the card for the next show.

Sorry to see Shock go in such a negative way. I know I quit as well, but at least I did it in a respectful way. Either way, I hope Shock the best of luck, I tried helping him when he started, and he tried helping me when he was modded, we looked out for each other.

And finally, this was my last show RP-wise, but I still plan on sticking around, doing feedback, if it's welcomed, just being a part of the family. In my other fed, I just won a title, and now have a chance to win my 2nd (Ironically, from Milenko, the same man to beat me for one here). Things are looking good for me e-fed wise, and I still plan on returning to WZCW someday, but not for a while.

Good show, nice ew stragedy, hope it keps up.

EDIT: One thing I am puzzled about though, is how Bratchny won our match. I know it was my last show, but I still RPed for it, and correct me if I'm wrong, but does not mentioning your opponent in your RP make it not count? I had Will tell me that months ago based on one of mine, and Bratchny never mentioned me, the match, anyhing at all. How does that work?

 

[Lee]

it doesn't matter what you say in it really, different people prefer different things.

It was a tough match to call, hence why I had you injured halfway through the match, so you lost, but it was a dignified loss. You even got the crowd clapping you as a mark of respect

 

[Lee]

I've also updated the rules thread.

 

[Monkey_Mania]

Friends, Romans, Countrymen, lend me your ears. I have an announcement.

Ladies and gents, I am done here. I no longer want to take part in WZCW. This is for a few reasons. One, I don't like how things are done. You know that, I know that, done deal. Two, I am in two other e-feds and creating another. In one, I am switching to my manager, Aiden. The reason being because I can't come up with new ideas for Shock all the time and he will get boring, so I needed to choose between this fed and another. Therefore, I chose the better e-fed. The one that is not this. Three, this fed is a piece of crap. The only reason I have stayed is because I was hoping to make it better, but I see that I can't, so I won't try anymore. I will, however, continue to make graphics for the fed, so you don't have to worry about that. But that is all I will do for the fed from now on. No planning, no recruiting, nothing. Take me off Creative. Take me off the roster. Thank you, and goodbye.
By the way, I was telling people Creative-only information the whole time.

Alright kid. You go care about an imaginary wrestling company. You made me not want to be in this fed. I honestly stuck around for my boys in creative and a few regulars. I know Im not that good. But anytime someone makes anything not fun, is when they need to be gone. Thanks for doing it for us. I was too busy too give a shit though. In the meantime.

Na na na na...Na na na na...Hey Hey Hey, GOOD RIDDANCE.

 

[Danmen001]

Well that's a... Shock.

Don't act like you thought that pun wasn't coming.

 

[Derf]

Alright kid. You go care about an imaginary wrestling company. You made me not want to be in this fed. I honestly stuck around for my boys in creative and a few regulars. I know Im not that good. But anytime someone makes anything not fun, is when they need to be gone. Thanks for doing it for us. I was too busy too give a shit though. In the meantime.

Na na na na...Na na na na...Hey Hey Hey, GOOD RIDDANCE.

Allthough I disagree with the way Shock left, you yourself might want to work on the bolded part, refering to the way you "arn't a nice guy".