WWE's New Message?

[AegonTargaryen]

The fans starting doing those cheers when bryan was heel. He was hardly kissing the fans ass then...



They started loving him after he lost in 18 seconds and became the underdog. They saw a guy who had worked his whole life to get to wrestlemania only to have that dream stolen away from him in 18 seconds. They watched him fight his way up the ranks for the next two year. Including a stint with Kane as a tag team wrestler. Trying to become the WWE champion, fighting everyone in his path. Being the underdog the whole way. Having his heart broken when he finally won the WWE against another hero, a mythical legend named Cena only to have the Evil villain steal it away from him by pedigree (the guy that was never supposed to be getting screwed out of the title by the boss for a handsome young arrogant ass, because daniel bryan isn't cut from the right cloth or isn't pretty enough) But our beloved hero isn't done yet, he comes back and fights his way to the top again. And defeats the evil darling who the corrupt boss hand picked and placed at the top by any means. YES YES YES!!!! FINALLY the unexpected hero has done it! Wait no, an unsavory thing happens the ref tells the world that our hero was cheating!!!! No one believes it but still he has the holy grail stolen from him AGAIN! Then our hero is shunned from an opportunity to even participate in an event that would garner him the opportunity to find the grail once more. Finally all the people around our hero see him being screwed. Not allowed to achieve his goal, not because he isn't good enough, not because he doesn't have the skills, not because he doesn't deserve but because certain people are evil and will do anything they can to ensure that he doesn't get a chance.

So people come together, doing the right thing, doing the honorable thing and say "WE ARE NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE" and when they do finally the evil corrupt boss has to give in saying that he will fight our triumph, and then and only then will our hero have a chance to go out and have another shot to get to his holy grail!

Now I know that sounds a little ridiculous but it's a hell of script. People rising up against the oppressive controls, doing whatever it take to right the wrongs of evil. Seriously, if you can't see where this script and this storyline was heading and see how it makes sense and see why people would enjoy, I don't know what to say. But saying there's nothing special about Daniel Bryan makes no sense.

There have been thousands of wrestlers like Bryan who have never made it. Who never had this much backing from the fans, so clearly there is something that makes him different from all those other guys.

I'm not against the storyline per se. I understand it's a political situation and Democracy wants to end the Mcmahon Monarchy. I'm fine with that. I just don't want somebody uncharismatic, tiny, and implausible who sucks on the mic and causes an entire areana to chant YES and NO on a weekly basis to be the representation of it. Bring back Chris Jericho. Kurt Angle. CM Punk. Anyone who's not a big musclehead but at the same possess the skills of the aforementioned three will do. It's unfortunate that people have become so undiscerning as to cheer for something that is not main-event material. My god, Owen Hart was likeable and amusing as the Blue Blazer too. Why not have him inserted into the Rock vs Austin main event of WM 15? Because he's Owen Hart, that's all he could accomplish with his voice, stature, size and mic skills. Excellent wrestler but doomed to be a tag-team hero.

 

[CharlesKane]

In 20 plus years of watching wrestling, I can't think of one contender ' s match or battle royal or any other kind of match in which the winner wasn't decided by the booker. So, I'd say the message is, as it always has been, get over with the fans and reap the rewards. That's why Cena, Hogan and everyone else got their runs at the top.

 

[pepentorresHHH]

In a raw episode in 1998, Mr. Mcmahon confronted an apparently forlorn Mick Foley in the ring and probed him as to what he has done to be given a WWE championship match and whether he thinks falling off from steel cages is his idea of proving he's a main-event material. Nonetheless, Mick Foley was given the title for the first time after he beat The Rock in that infamous match on Raw. But was he ever a main-eventer? History tells that Mick was merely a transition champion and being given the WWE title on that Raw episode and him running around the ring was nothing but a revelation that when a non-maineventer is given the belt, he feels nothing but gratitude because deep down he knows he could've never really won it. And it was ******ed for him to run around the ring anyway.

HBK beating Batista and Bret Hart beating Bam Bam Bigelow isn't the David vs Goliath story. HBK and Hart are both over 6 foot tall and ripped with a solid frame that supports their intense 30-minute long performances. When somebody like Kevin Nash loses to HBK, it should not be implausible.
The only two under-6-foot believable performers and main-eventers were Chris Benoit and Kurt Angle. Say what you want about Guerrero but despite his muscle and all, he looked pretty tiny besides John Cena(6'1), leave aside a beast like Lesnar. He's not technically as gifted nor strong enough to be a suplex machine like Angle or Benoit because of his tiny 5'8 stature. The only reason he was even champion leading into WM XX was because Brock decided to quit the WWE and extended a month to wrestle Goldberg before departing. What else is there to prove?

Tiny men under 6 foot tall cannot be main-eventers. Say all you want about "getting over". Doink the clown was more over with the kids than Batista ever will be. You wouldn't want Doink as your champion though. If tiny little pipsqueaks like Rey Mysterio and Daniel Bryan are to win the big gold belt, then why not remove guys like Sting, Goldberg, Ric Flair, Randy Orton, Undertaker, HHH, etc. from the legacy of it and invite an entire army of 5-foot-8'ers from TNA to contend for it? Why not call it the Cruiserweight Heavyweight championship? Disgusting.

First of all didnt Foley win the title in 1999? He was a main eventer cause it wasnt about just falling off cages, it was about his passion for the business and wanting to entertain the fans. He was a main eventer cause he had main event feuds with some of the biggest stars even before winning the belt. Lets not forget his battles with taker, kane, shawn michaels, stone cold, among many others. Hell his title win was the point of the monday night wars when the WWE started winning consistently. Remember he got GREAT ratings that night. Yes he was a transitional champion but that doesn't mean he wasn't a main eventer

Hbk and bret hart winning matches and titles are relevant to the context of our discussion because yes thet are bigger than bryan, but they were in the same boat during the start of their runs. Both followed the giants from the early 90s, which is why their programs against men like diesel and bam bam and razor were booked as david vs goliath storylines.

Kurt angle benoit and some of the best wrestlers in history but to me Eddie was in the same category. He was a very good technician but as you pointed out he wasnt as muscled as them but he didnt needed to be. He was a high flyer which suited his offense and allowed him to reach the heights he did.
As far as real men and real champions being bigger than life. If thats your opinion thats fine. I personally believe the champion has to be able to beat everone but i dont care what he looks like. Didnt jericho won a legit fight against goldberg, a "real man" under your definition? Or what about booker T trashing batista? A man bigger and more muscular than him?

Daniel bryan is best for business because right now the majority want him on top simple as that

 

[Bythedockofthebay]

I'm not against the storyline per se. I understand it's a political situation and Democracy wants to end the Mcmahon Monarchy. I'm fine with that. I just don't want somebody uncharismatic, tiny, and implausible who sucks on the mic and causes an entire areana to chant YES and NO on a weekly basis to be the representation of it. Bring back Chris Jericho. Kurt Angle. CM Punk. Anyone who's not a big musclehead but at the same possess the skills of the aforementioned three will do. It's unfortunate that people have become so undiscerning as to cheer for something that is not main-event material. My god, Owen Hart was likeable and amusing as the Blue Blazer too. Why not have him inserted into the Rock vs Austin main event of WM 15? Because he's Owen Hart, that's all he could accomplish with his voice, stature, size and mic skills. Excellent wrestler but doomed to be a tag-team hero.

He doesn't suck on the mic first off but that's a matter of opinion so I won't fight you. The thing is that you don't seem to get that our world is far more realistic than it used to be. The dream used to be growing up taking your vitamins and becoming 6'4 and 300lbs most kids realize that isn't going to happen anymore. They realize that they aren't going to have that dream come true. But being a 5'8 guy who works your ass off your whole life and gets screwed along the way resonates with everyone. It's about hard work overcoming the odds and being normal but you work harder than anyone else. Every kid and most adults can relate to that. Busting your ass, being held back and FINALLY getting your chance. Daniel Bryan is that fantasy, and the WWE has never really reflected reality, so Daniel Bryan is the perfect guy to carry that torch. To be the man that every kid wants to become and actually believes they can become.

 

[THTRobtaylor]

This has to be the most troll laden pile of crap on the forums yet... is Renaissance actually trying to Kayfabe? or do you really believe this crap?

Bring back Kurt Angle? Really? A banged up alchoholic with mental health issues and a broken neck who they RELEASED from a 3 year deal cos they didn't want him dying on their watch.

Why was Owen not inserted into a title match at 15? Cos he was politically damaged by the screwjob and he only ever had ONE chance to be a World champion and they chose to give it to Backlund. Had they not done so then Owen would be "former world champion" but would have been the guy to lose to Diesel in 8 seconds... he was not getting a stellar run...and frankly not winning the title for him has done more legacy wise than if he had died a former champ.

The guy above is right, Bryan is the perfect avatar for today's WWE fan - in the 90's we were all pissed off and wanted to tell our boss to go to hell, stomp a mudhole in him and drink beer... today it's not that simple, we have seen what happens when the boss loses his money, how important free speech is rather than materialism and that bullying is wrong, even if the bully is the one who was once bullied themselves. Bryan didn't "earn" an opportunity? He earned it with his career before WWE, his stint in NXT/FCW and having the indignity of being fired for doing as he was told on his first night... or was he? Bryan was planned to be pushed ALL THE WHILE... he got 6 months off paid where he could still be indie and that big debut at Summerslam. Because he had worked his ass off to get to THAT point... and the guy hasn't rested on his laurels...and more to the point he has made 95% of fans and viewers love him... not with fake salutes or pandering to kids, no demandments or vitamins but being himself... the goatfaced, vegan geek as Cole used to call him... not anymore, even he is "drinking the koolaid".

A parent can look today and see Cena AND Bryan as great role models for their kids... How many of those parents grew up wanting to be Hogan or Warrior? Loads of them... how many are more like Bryan in real life... nearly all... They can say to their kids "It's ok if you want to be Cena/Superman but Clark Kent/Daniel Bryan was also pretty cool...Bryan got the girl too...

Now look at Punk... the guy did exactly the same as Bryan... but then came the pipebomb and he got lazy. He held Vince up and it worked, he knew he was getting the belt for the year and over time he got more and more contented... it soon became more about how he got one over on Vince than actually moving forward. The only creative thing he did in that last year was grow Wolvie chops as if he's auditioning for the role once Hughie steps aside... That play with Vince was NEVER gonna work a second time... the only reason he hasn't been sued is cos time off would have been built in to the deal just as it is for Taker, Kane, Henry, Show and the other older, larger wrestlers who take several months out each year... he hit that time where he had to take them or lose them... so he walked.

How WWE has gone about this is ass over tit and at times downright wrong but the end result seems to be getting them to the right place... if after 9 months of legit pissing off the fanbase it pays off and they push Bryan properly then they have their next Top level star... Sure Bryan ain't gonna be a movie star, but he'll be the darling of the chat shows cos SHOCK HORROR he isn't the stereotype and is actually can talk about stuff and connect with an audience.

 

[AegonTargaryen]

This has to be the most troll laden pile of crap on the forums yet... is Renaissance actually trying to Kayfabe? or do you really believe this crap?

I'll show you just how much of a "Kayfabe" I am.

Bring back Kurt Angle? Really? A banged up alchoholic with mental health issues and a broken neck who they RELEASED from a 3 year deal cos they didn't want him dying on their watch.

Kurt Angle has accomplished more in pro-wrestling in his first 6 years in the WWE itself and has had more five-star matches than you Daniel Bryan pipsqueak fans would want to admit. As for his alcohol issues, GET REAL, Alcoholism pervades pro-wrestling and as long as he's not a cocaine junkie or comes to work being drunk like Eddie Guerrero or shows up Drugged like Jeff Hardy, Kurt Angle is doing fine. You can accept an abominable old man like Hogan back, but Kurt Angle coming back for a part-time schedule is unwelcome to you? If you think Kurt Angle's got "mental issues", then you're severely mentally challenged.

Why was Owen not inserted into a title match at 15? Cos he was politically damaged by the screwjob and he only ever had ONE chance to be a World champion and they chose to give it to Backlund. Had they not done so then Owen would be "former world champion" but would have been the guy to lose to Diesel in 8 seconds... he was not getting a stellar run...and frankly not winning the title for him has done more legacy wise than if he had died a former champ.

Get over it. Not EVERYONE in the wrestling business becomes a world champ and Owen accomplished all he could for a man his size, gimmick ,and talent. And quite frankly, with Austin and Rock around, guys like Owen Hart main-eventing would be comical.

The guy above is right, Bryan is the perfect avatar for today's WWE fan - in the 90's we were all pissed off and wanted to tell our boss to go to hell, stomp a mudhole in him and drink beer... today it's not that simple, we have seen what happens when the boss loses his money, how important free speech is rather than materialism and that bullying is wrong, even if the bully is the one who was once bullied themselves. Bryan didn't "earn" an opportunity? He earned it with his career before WWE, his stint in NXT/FCW and having the indignity of being fired for doing as he was told on his first night... or was he? Bryan was planned to be pushed ALL THE WHILE... he got 6 months off paid where he could still be indie and that big debut at Summerslam. Because he had worked his ass off to get to THAT point... and the guy hasn't rested on his laurels...and more to the point he has made 95% of fans and viewers love him... not with fake salutes or pandering to kids, no demandments or vitamins but being himself... the goatfaced, vegan geek as Cole used to call him... not anymore, even he is "drinking the koolaid".

Yeah cheers for all that. Bryan's rightful place in the wrestling business is to be the US champ and not more than that. He's the most overrated, pathetic and crappy wrestling gimmick to ever have main-evented and even won. Daniel Bryan should be tag-teaming his entire career and anyone who disagrees only does so because he's Hypnotized by Bryan's lame Yes-movement schtick which ultimately only reveals how undiscerning, unintelligent and ******ed you modern wrestling fans are. If a 5-foot-8'er with crappy mic skills and overrated shctick should main-event WM because the audiences support him and he's over, then you may as well bring AJ styles and give him the Gold. Why have talented, good-looking, and ACTUAL main-eventers like John Cena or Randy Orton around? Bring Chris Sabin and Austin Aries too.

A parent can look today and see Cena AND Bryan as great role models for their kids... How many of those parents grew up wanting to be Hogan or Warrior? Loads of them... how many are more like Bryan in real life... nearly all... They can say to their kids "It's ok if you want to be Cena/Superman but Clark Kent/Daniel Bryan was also pretty cool...Bryan got the girl too...

YEAH WOW. Parents can look up to someone like Daniel Bryan and have him be a role model to their kids. ******ed. What makes you idiotic fans think that the Wrestling business is not only about Kids idolizing Wrestlers but also for them to actually want to be like them? More people in the world are like or can be like Daniel Bryan and that's a good thing? What would you rather want your son to be, a short, idiotic-looking, overrated goofball, or a tall, masculine , talented and good-looking wrestler like Randy Orton?

And who ever said the WWE or the wrestling world gives two hoots about wrestlers actually being "role models" and having a postitive impact on the world? NEWS FLASH- WWE couldn't give a shit if your kid's a druggie or an IWC bum. The only thing Vince Mcmahon has ever given a shit about and will give a shit about is MONAYYYYY.

Do you think when people cheered for The Rock, they even remotely wondered or wished that their kids would grow up to become like him? It'd take a GREEK GOD fucking a beautiful Samoan woman to create someone as masculine and handsome as THE ROCK and quite frankly, the stock of most Americans simply sucks for that purpose. Nobody can be the Rock. Your job as fans is to buy a ticket, cheer for those you love, boo those whom you hate.That's ALL. That's the only role Wrestling fans will ever and should ever play and ******ed DB fans are trying to changed that and HHH or the WWE should be drowning before bending themselves because of "the fans".

Daniel Bryan being a positive role model to kids is the biggest load of crap you would bring up in an argument. I don't know what's more despicable and sickening, Daniel Bryan's existence as a pro-wrestler, or ******ed hypnotized fans like you advocating the role-model crap. Wrestling SUPERSTARS aren't very good human beings. More often than not, they're selfish, self-centred egotistical bastards at best, riddled with alcohol, drugs, and domestic absue(Steve Austin, Goldberg, Brock Lesnar, Scott Hall, Kevin Nash, Jeff Hardy, Eddie Guerrero, Chris Benoit, Kurt Angle, Bret Hart, Ric Flair, and the most disgraceful of them all, Terry Bollea).

Besides caring only for money, Vince Mcmahon has always had a demon of feeling inferior because of what he's involved in. It's FAKE WRESTLING. There is no honour, no sportsmanship involved in Pro-wrestling and if it's ever displayed, it's scripted and contrived. Hulk Hogan, Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, Steve Austin, Rock, HHH..were all the biggest egomaniacs in their time and beyond and couldn't give a fuck if their competitors were buried or their careers detracted from. All Hogan ever knew about was himself and his delusional existence of Hulkamania. What's pathetic is that that bastard went to TNA in 2010, and instead of letting real superstars like Kurt Angle shine, made it all about himself. All the Make-a-wish and Anti-Bullying campaign by the WWE is a hokum and a charade to make idiotic and undiscerning bums like you believe that WWE is all about "good" and "pure" and "we care " nonsense. At the end of the day, Vince Mcmahon doesn't give a flying fuck whether it's John Cena, Batista, Randy Orton, or Brock Lesnar that has made him money. All this make-a-wish crap is relatively new and Pro -Wrestling is the last thing where you'd seek "positive" "role models" for your child. Bank on it. Wrestling is a disgusting sport of pretence, and displays all kinds of human nature and emotions, be it jealousy, greed, avarise, or hatred. There's no honour to it, there's certainly no positivity to it. It can be entertaining- that's about it. Entertainment, plain and simple.

Any parent who allows his child to watch pro-wrestling and expects the child to acquire high culture, good values, and talent or accomplishments is downright stupid and ignorant .

Hence, proved.

 

[George Steele's Barber]

What a screwy premise. Title matches have been given or taken for the stupidest of reasons for years. Last night was fun, creative, and well executed. DB actually looked like he was very comfortable and having a great time. Those fans had the thrill of a lifetime for them.

You want stupid, take the Royal Rumble. The title match at Mania is supposed to be the most desirable and important match a performer could want and it gets decided by a goofy over the top competition where one guy could win mostly in part to the luck of a ping pong ball draw.

Professional wrestling is stupid, WWE takes that stupid to another level. What we saw last night was not stupid. It was somewhat creative and not what we typically see from this industry.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

he may have a connection to the crowd but I have yet to see any skill and/or charisma come from one Daniel Bryan. being able to skip sideways chanting yes or no is not charisma and doing backflips off the turnbuckle isn't skill. He's been the flavor of the month for the past couple of months, hes basically 2014's Zack Ryder. Soon enough he will fade away and become another face who had his turn in the spotlight. He, Ryder, The Miz, and Ziggler will have fun sharing stories.

You're forgetting that quality and taste is completely subjective. You don't like Bryan, which is understandable because there's no wrestler who can appeal to everybody. However, your definition of charisma is extremely narrow. Charisma is more than being able to string together words and catchphrases on a microphone. Bryan's connection with fans is his charisma, fans can see that he's a genuinely passionate wrestler with something of an old school mentality.

The single most important job a pro wrestler has is to make the fans care. If the fans don't give a shit, then it doesn't matter if you have the face of an angel and the physique of a god. It doesn't matter if you're some amateur wrestling dynamo or some MMA monster. It doesn't matter if you can flip & flop all over the ring like Spider-Man. It doesn't matter if you can chew steel and shit nails. It doesn't matter if you can come up with catchy catchphrases with no effort at all. NONE of that is going to automatically make fans care. If fans don't care, you don't make money. You don't make money, you don't get pushed and someone else does instead.

I get that you don't like Bryan, that's perfectly fine. However, let's not make bullshit claims like Bryan is Zack Ryder in 2014 and try to pass it off as true. Daniel Bryan's popularity has continued to grow for more than 2 years now. Zack Ryder's popularity began to fade almost the instant his push as US Champ began. Ryder was a flavor of the month, a brief moment in time. Flavors of the month don't stay popular and see their popularity grow in a time period measured in years.

 

[Fire Marshall Bill]

Is it still real to you, damnit?

I mean seriously, it's scripted. Do you really think wrestlers are now going to see what DB did and suddenly start doing it as a shoot? The saddest part here is at least one person (I only read a few posts beyond the OP) is defending you.

 

[LiarsDice]

So after years and years of the WWE deciding who gets into championship matches by placing superstars in #1 contenders matches and ladder matches and battle royals and so on and so forth, THIS is how the WWE is going to do things from now on? Tonight on Monday Night Raw Daniel Bryan fans all got what they wanted. Daniel Bryan will face HHH at WrestleMania 30 and if he wins he gets inserted into the WWE WHC match at the end of the night. Did he accomplish this by winning a #1 contenders match? By winning a ladder match? By being the last man standing in a battle royal? No. He and his fans got what they wanted by complaining for so unnecessarily long that the WWE has finally decided to give in. Wonderful.

Ok, first of all, Rock was champion at WM29. He beat Punk for the title. What ladder match did he win for his shot at Punk? And what ladder match did Cena win for his shot at Rock?
The idea that a personal feud leads to the title is the single oldest storyline in professional wrestling. Its what the entire business is built on. MitB is still a new concept in the grand scale of things. As is the idea of Rumble winners being number one contender. Where was Hacksaw Jim Duggan's title shot? Or Big John Stud's? The idea of a Rumble winner being number one contender is still storyline!
And even on that subject, the Rumble win is sullied completely by the fact that Elimination Chamber exists. Whats the point in winning number one contendership in a 30 man match when you can just win the title itself the next month against 5 other people? And the Rumble winner is exempt from participation.
Frankly, Bryan's story arc, from being given his shot by Cena, to being screwed constantly by The Authority, is exactly how a championship storyline should flow. Ladder match for number one contendership? How do we decided who the number one contenders are for that match? And what about the matches before that? Should the entire show just be a giant league where the top spots are the same 2 guys and nobody ever gets a chance again? Of course not.
Seriously, dude. Did Bryan bang your girlfriend or something? Just cause you don't like the guy doesn't mean that "logic" is on your side.

 

[haydo 434]

I like bryan and think he is a very good performer, but this is such a slap in the face to other guys who are as deserving to have gotten the treatment that he has got at mania, I mean he is obviously going to beat triple h and move onto the main event, why not have a battle royal to determine who the third man is? Such a let down to others like ziggler, sandow among others.

 

[#tamale]

What I find interesting about this Yes Movement (and Occupy Raw) is that it is the perfect way for heels to attack Daniel Bryan in the future. If he does return, CM Punk would be the perfect heel to counter Daniel Bryan and the fans.

I like bryan and think he is a very good performer, but this is such a slap in the face to other guys who are as deserving to have gotten the treatment that he has got at mania, I mean he is obviously going to beat triple h and move onto the main event, why not have a battle royal to determine who the third man is? Such a let down to others like ziggler, sandow among others.

Instead of using a creative and fun way to lead to a major match, you prefer a boring battle royal where we know who will win? This board was exploding about how Bryan was being screwed and he deserved the WWE WHC. Now that he has a shot, some hate it for the way he did it and because other people are more deserving.

 

[Mustang Sally]

Just for sake of perspective, we can toss Randy Orton and Batista into this equation, too. They were to battle it out one-one at WM30 for the world title.

Orton belongs in the match because he's the champion and knew he would have to defend his title at the biggest PPV of the year. Batista belongs because he won the Royal Rumble and it's been a standing provision for quite a few years that the Rumble winner gets a title shot at WM.

Now, Orton & Batista suddenly learn that their 50% chance of walking out of WM30 with the title belt has been cut to 33%.

Why? Because the Authority was maneuvered into it, that's why. If it's true the powers-that-be at WWE made a mistake in not giving Daniel Bryan a title shot at WM, this is the storyline they've created to rectify the error. But if we're going to take these events as how things happen in real life, the next thing we're going to be treated to is Randy Orton having a tantrum in front of Triple H and Stephanie, protesting Daniel's inclusion in a match that was already set in stone.......and he would be right to object, wouldn't he?

Yes, we know that one-on-one matches have morphed into three-ways for no logical reason before, but if Randy simply accepts this new arrangement without a word of protest, that wouldn't make much sense, either.

Of course, this can be incorporated into the revised storyline, too. Hasn't Randy confronted the Authority about treating him unfairly since he's become the "face of the WWE?" Well, here's another rant in which he can engage.

See you on Monday.

 

[MrMojoRisin]

That's what im saying. Who is to say he wont just do the same thing the moment he loses the title? IF he gains it to begin with. I truly believe that in storyline and not in storyline he is just using the fans to become more popular, he doesn't care about any of them.

You do realize that what happened last night was a part of the storyline, right?

You don't believe that Daniel Bryan actually got a host of real fans to invade the ring on live TV, and held the show hostage until he got what he wanted?

This is where the story has gone. Bryan has been continuously screwed out of the title since Summerslam by the Authority. The story got to the point where it called for Bryan to get his chance for payback against the man holding him back... but also still had the underlying element that he still kept getting screwed out of the title. So everything wraps up in a nice package exactly where it should... at the biggest show of the year.

Whether this is the best way of telling that story... is up in the air. But none of it is Bryan Danielson actually 'using' the fans to get what he wants.

Try understanding the difference between what's real, and what isn't.

And as for him not getting his opportunity through a traditional method? Remember this? It turned out pretty well.

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[enviousdominous]

So after years and years of the WWE deciding who gets into championship matches by placing superstars in #1 contenders matches and ladder matches and battle royals and so on and so forth, THIS is how the WWE is going to do things from now on? Tonight on Monday Night Raw Daniel Bryan fans all got what they wanted. Daniel Bryan will face HHH at WrestleMania 30 and if he wins he gets inserted into the WWE WHC match at the end of the night. Did he accomplish this by winning a #1 contenders match? By winning a ladder match? By being the last man standing in a battle royal? No. He and his fans got what they wanted by complaining for so unnecessarily long that the WWE has finally decided to give in. Wonderful. Before everyone throws their death wishes upon me just know this is not a hate thread against Daniel Bryan, nor is it meant for slander. I do NOT like Daniel Bryan or the thought of him as WWE WHC in the slightest, but this thread is not to bash him, it's to bash the way he got into getting what he wanted. Yes, he has bested Randy Orton, John Cena, and he has traded blows with Batista although he hasn't officially defeated him in the ring yet, at least not that I can recall. So I ask, is this really how the WWE is going to give out championship matches from here going forward? The main event spots go to the biggest whiners? Im sorry for any Daniel Bryan die hard fans who are insulted by this but I had to speak out about this because whether he may or may not indeed be a good wrestler does not change the fact of how he got into the WrestleMania main event (Because we all know he will beat HHH and get into the title match). He and his fans got what they wanted by acting like spoiled children. I guess WWE truly has changed, whether it's for the better or not has yet to be seen.

Whew. Consider the usefulness of the paragraph next time, mm'kay.

No, this isn't going to be the standard for how the WWE books every one of their main events. The last time I remember something similar happening was when Mick Foley got a title match by holding Shane McMahon hostage until Vince would grant him one, the match happened on RAW but they were desperate for ratings at the time and it helped bring them back.

Daniel Bryan has the ability to work fresh spots over the course of multiple matches and remain sharp throughout. All the multiple match punishment angles have been a means of allowing the few people in the crowd that haven't joined the Daniel Bryan bandwagon to take him seriously as someone who can continue to entertain in subsequent matches.

Whether or not someone likes Daniel Bryan is mostly subjective, but an explanation for one's disposition can always help if they want to be taken seriously. I personally like the guy because while he uses certain spots in every one of his matches, he still manages to create fresh spots that are believable and promote his opponent's abilities as well as they promote his own. I like high energy spots that blend seamlessly into progressively impressive spots, Daniel Bryan performs in that way.

The WWE uses many different ways to put someone in the main event, it doesn't always have to be the guy they thought would still be relevant since winning the Royal Rumble. It's all about repaying the fans for their investment, I thought they handled it brilliantly.

 

[Bythedockofthebay]

I'll show you just how much of a "Kayfabe" I am
Get over it. Not EVERYONE in the wrestling business becomes a world champ and Owen accomplished all he could for a man his size, gimmick ,and talent. And quite frankly, with Austin and Rock around, guys like Owen Hart main-eventing would be comical.

But Owen hart was never as over as Bryan is and honestly, no offense to Owen. He wasn't as good as Bryan. Fact is that Bryan is damn good at his job.

Yeah cheers for all that. Bryan's rightful place in the wrestling business is to be the US champ and not more than that. He's the most overrated, pathetic and crappy wrestling gimmick to ever have main-evented and even won. Daniel Bryan should be tag-teaming his entire career and anyone who disagrees only does so because he's Hypnotized by Bryan's lame Yes-movement schtick which ultimately only reveals how undiscerning, unintelligent and ******ed you modern wrestling fans are. If a 5-foot-8'er with crappy mic skills and overrated shctick should main-event WM because the audiences support him and he's over, then you may as well bring AJ styles and give him the Gold. Why have talented, good-looking, and ACTUAL main-eventers like John Cena or Randy Orton around? Bring Chris Sabin and Austin Aries too.

You know what, you're right the guy that has thousands and thousands of people screaming his name at every show deserves to be buried. He deserves to never be seen again. In fact I think Vince should ban anyone that's under the height of 6'0 from ever competing in the WWE again. Sure that's against the law, and even though Daniel Bryan is the most over guy in the company, you don't like that he's not 6'4, 245 and you don't think he's cute so apparently that makes him awful. While were at it Aries and Saban aren't there, because they aren't as special as Bryan, they aren't that good.

YEAH WOW. Parents can look up to someone like Daniel Bryan and have him be a role model to their kids. ******ed. What makes you idiotic fans think that the Wrestling business is not only about Kids idolizing Wrestlers but also for them to actually want to be like them? More people in the world are like or can be like Daniel Bryan and that's a good thing? What would you rather want your son to be, a short, idiotic-looking, overrated goofball, or a tall, masculine , talented and good-looking wrestler like Randy Orton?

Yeah, well apparently you haven't got the whole Cena make a wish thing for the last ten years. Yes this is what wrestling has become. Although I still don't get what being short has to do with anything.

And who ever said the WWE or the wrestling world gives two hoots about wrestlers actually being "role models" and having a postitive impact on the world? NEWS FLASH- WWE couldn't give a shit if your kid's a druggie or an IWC bum. The only thing Vince Mcmahon has ever given a shit about and will give a shit about is MONAYYYYY.

And vince thinks the best way to make money now is with a pg hero who does the right things. He has for a while, Cena has been on top and been doing those things for years. Doing the right thing and being a good person does count for something now adays.

Do you think when people cheered for The Rock, they even remotely wondered or wished that their kids would grow up to become like him? It'd take a GREEK GOD fucking a beautiful Samoan woman to create someone as masculine and handsome as THE ROCK and quite frankly, the stock of most Americans simply sucks for that purpose. Nobody can be the Rock. Your job as fans is to buy a ticket, cheer for those you love, boo those whom you hate.That's ALL. That's the only role Wrestling fans will ever and should ever play and ******ed DB fans are trying to changed that and HHH or the WWE should be drowning before bending themselves because of "the fans".

Umm no but that was a different world, but since you brought it up you're right. And we cheer Daniel Bryan, and it's because he's the actual dream. The idea that if you're working hard enough and you're good enough. You can change anything.

So wait? the only rule we have is to cheer the people we love and boo those we don't? Isn't that exactly what the wrestling fans are doing? They're cheering daniel bryan, they clearly LOVE daniel bryan.. That's our job, and apparently you are concerned with how tall the guy we cheer is, which doesn't seem to bug the rest of the wrestling world.

Daniel Bryan being a positive role model to kids is the biggest load of crap you would bring up in an argument. I don't know what's more despicable and sickening, Daniel Bryan's existence as a pro-wrestler, or ******ed hypnotized fans like you advocating the role-model crap. Wrestling SUPERSTARS aren't very good human beings. More often than not, they're selfish, self-centred egotistical bastards at best, riddled with alcohol, drugs, and domestic absue(Steve Austin, Goldberg, Brock Lesnar, Scott Hall, Kevin Nash, Jeff Hardy, Eddie Guerrero, Chris Benoit, Kurt Angle, Bret Hart, Ric Flair, and the most disgraceful of them all, Terry Bollea).

All those guys are from a different era. Wrestling has change. Positive role models in and out of the ring do matter. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Besides caring only for money, Vince Mcmahon has always had a demon of feeling inferior because of what he's involved in. It's FAKE WRESTLING. There is no honour, no sportsmanship involved in Pro-wrestling and if it's ever displayed, it's scripted and contrived. Hulk Hogan, Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, Steve Austin, Rock, HHH..were all the biggest egomaniacs in their time and beyond and couldn't give a fuck if their competitors were buried or their careers detracted from. All Hogan ever knew about was himself and his delusional existence of Hulkamania. What's pathetic is that that bastard went to TNA in 2010, and instead of letting real superstars like Kurt Angle shine, made it all about himself. All the Make-a-wish and Anti-Bullying campaign by the WWE is a hokum and a charade to make idiotic and undiscerning bums like you believe that WWE is all about "good" and "pure" and "we care " nonsense. At the end of the day, Vince Mcmahon doesn't give a flying fuck whether it's John Cena, Batista, Randy Orton, or Brock Lesnar that has made him money. All this make-a-wish crap is relatively new and Pro -Wrestling is the last thing where you'd seek "positive" "role models" for your child. Bank on it. Wrestling is a disgusting sport of pretence, and displays all kinds of human nature and emotions, be it jealousy, greed, avarise, or hatred. There's no honour to it, there's certainly no positivity to it. It can be entertaining- that's about it. Entertainment, plain and simple.

Any parent who allows his child to watch pro-wrestling and expects the child to acquire high culture, good values, and talent or accomplishments is downright stupid and ignorant .

Hence, proved.

John Cena watch wrestling as a kid and idolized hogan and turned out pretty well. And if my kid wanted to grow up to learn hustle, loyalty, and respect and help people out in the process I wouldn't mind that so much.

 

[Logisticalbooker86]

Is there a day that goes by without one wrestling fan or another complaining about the product on a message board? Holy crap.

Did you really want to see Orton and Batista go one on one at WrestleMania? If so, you're in the VAST minority here. WWE gave the majority of their fans what they wanted last night in a way that made sense. Daniel Bryan had been screwed out of the WWE title in every championship match he competed in since SummerSlam.

Last night, he finally got one over on the authority and got his chance at the title. A chance he has earned by getting the fans behind him, and putting on consistently great matches since the day he walked in the door at NXT.

Batista will get a run with the belt before the end of the year and WrestleMania will end with a feel good moment. Everybody wins.

I don't even know why I replied to this thread. The OP is clearly an imbecile, or a gimmick poster.

 

[flyinbukta]

Daniel Bryan shirts are EVERYWHERE.
I've only ever seen one other T-Shirt outside of a wrestling show ever, and it was a CM Punk shirt. But everywhere I look there seems to be a Daniel Bryan shirt. That is why he is in the main event at Wrestlemania.

Because although you seem to be blaming him for trying his damned hardest to get every fan behind him, that's his JOB. And he did it as a heel originally, and now is the most popular superstar in the WWE, regardless of what you think.

Walk on, troll.

 

[Kidpolean]

Daniel Bryan shirts are EVERYWHERE.
I've only ever seen one other T-Shirt outside of a wrestling show ever, and it was a CM Punk shirt. But everywhere I look there seems to be a Daniel Bryan shirt. That is why he is in the main event at Wrestlemania.

Because although you seem to be blaming him for trying his damned hardest to get every fan behind him, that's his JOB. And he did it as a heel originally, and now is the most popular superstar in the WWE, regardless of what you think.

Walk on, troll.

Are you like 6 years old? How the hell is a DB and Cm Punk shirts tghe only ones you've seen outside of a wrestling show? UM what about NWO and DX shirts, or Austn 3:16 shirts?

Dude DB is NOT the most popular superstar....Either Cena or Taker is and its not even close. Than you have guys like HHH and Brock who are probably more popular than DB also. DB gets loud reactions and has a popular chant and that about it. Saying he is the most popular superstar is ridiculous considering the fact that more people in the world know who Cena, Taker, and Brock are. DB is getting the CM Punk treatment right now but the reactions will get worse as time goes on. Most popular and having the loudest reaction is not the same thing.

Well the OP was obviously trolling so im not sure why so many people are actually replying to this.

 

[DarksideEric]

Are you like 6 years old? How the hell is a DB and Cm Punk shirts tghe only ones you've seen outside of a wrestling show? UM what about NWO and DX shirts, or Austn 3:16 shirts?

Dude DB is NOT the most popular superstar....Either Cena or Taker is and its not even close. Than you have guys like HHH and Brock who are probably more popular than DB also. DB gets loud reactions and has a popular chant and that about it. Saying he is the most popular superstar is ridiculous considering the fact that more people in the world know who Cena, Taker, and Brock are. DB is getting the CM Punk treatment right now but the reactions will get worse as time goes on. Most popular and having the loudest reaction is not the same thing.

Well the OP was obviously trolling so im not sure why so many people are actually replying to this.

Let me think back to the last time I heard a HHH Brock chant at say... I dunno... a football game.

Hold on, it'll come to me...

There was that... no, that was a "YES! YES! YES!" chant.

Most popular and loudest reaction go hand in hand. How can you tell? Well... has ADR ever, ever gotten as loud as a heel reaction as say, oh I dunno, HHH, Hogan, Rock, etc? Who else was a heel, let's see... oh, I remember Hart getting giant amounts of heel heat during the New Foundation days, certainly more heat than Hunter's "Blue Blood" days.

Stick to your "probably"s, I'd rather stick to reality, logic and facts.

 

[Sexcellence of Sexecution]

The Occupy RAW segment last night was an interesting and creative way for Daniel Bryan to get into the match, the OP needs to chill out.

When I turned on RAW it was in the midst of that segment, and I was taken aback because I really can't remember ever seeing something like that in a WWE ring. All of the fans crowding the ring and ring side area was a really cool visual, and it perfectly highlighted Daniel Bryan's character and his connection with the fans. Seeing all the fans in the ring and all the fans in the arena doing the YES chant was awesome. It was actually a captivating segment to watch and really got me excited about WrestleMania.

I think creative segments like this need to be utilized more often because it really adds so much to the show. When I think back on memorable RAW moments, a few matches come to mind, but I mostly think about memorable segments like Austin's beer truck, Undertaker/Kane crap, cement being poured in Vince's limo, the Nexus arriving and tearing apart the entire arena, CM Punk's pipebomb, and so on. The Daniel Bryan segment from last RAW will definitely join the list of awesome RAW moments and was a way more effective way of setting up his match with Triple H and the stipulation for it than anything else I could possibly think of.

People talk a lot of shit about the WWE creative team not really living up to that title, but they definitely hit a home run last night and I'll give them, and all of the performers involved, credit where it's due.

Also for Daniel Bryan to "earn" a World Title shot at WrestleMania, he has to win a match against Triple H. So the point about him not earning his way into the main event by "winning" makes no fucking sense at all. You are clearly just looking to complain about anything or just trying to stir shit up and get a reaction out of people. I guess you did a pretty good job of that, so congratulations. You're still an idiot.

 

[JJ15776]

Yes, one thing that happened one time in extraordinary circumstances is CLEARLY the way everything will happen from this point forward. Jesus Christ.

Also, the WWE will always have a guy with a rich gimmick buy the title after paying a referee to get plastic surgery, every champion will be mugged in Syracuse so they have to give up their title, every time a guy is being kept from the ring he'll drive a zamboni to force his way there, either that or he'll drive a beer/milk truck and spray everybody down. And every a Royal Rumble will end I a draw leading to two title matches at Mania, every triple threat will end in two people pinning the champion and the title being vacated, every champion will retire with the belt, every WWE champion with team up with the IC champion in a two man power trip, there will always be fake weddings that turn out to be real marriages, every feud Kane participates in will lead to somebody pretending to have intercourse with a fake corpse...yep, all of these things are the WWE's new message, it's the way everything will always work from now on, clearly if the WWE does something once that means it's the way forward.

By the way, the WWE isn't giving in to anybody for anything. This was the plan all along, which is why Daniel Bryan tweeted about "the machine" holding him back and his fans being the "Yes Movement" about three minutes after the Royal Rumble ended. The fact that people seriously think he wasn't going to end up in a triple threat for the title all along may be the death of me. I can't even fathom how stupid somebody has to be to not see that this was clearly the plan the entire time. He's in the match against Triple H because CM Punk had to be replaced. What do you people think Bryan would've done at Mania if Punk stuck around and they didn't put him in the title match? Where do you think the storyline of him being held down, and rallying his fans in the yes movement would've lead? Seriously, it makes absolutely no sense.

And finally, back to the OP, how the hell is he not earning his title shot? Did you not hear the part where he has to beat Triple H to get in the title match? How is that not winning his way in? My god. "People have always had to earn title shots by winning matches, and now they're just going to let Bryan earn his title shot by winning a match??? I can't believe this!!! I'm so angry!!!"

People, let this be a lesson. Applying a little common sense and logic before hitting "submit" can go a long way.

 

[Kidpolean]

Let me think back to the last time I heard a HHH Brock chant at say... I dunno... a football game.

Hold on, it'll come to me...

There was that... no, that was a "YES! YES! YES!" chant.

Most popular and loudest reaction go hand in hand. How can you tell? Well... has ADR ever, ever gotten as loud as a heel reaction as say, oh I dunno, HHH, Hogan, Rock, etc? Who else was a heel, let's see... oh, I remember Hart getting giant amounts of heel heat during the New Foundation days, certainly more heat than Hunter's "Blue Blood" days.

Stick to your "probably"s, I'd rather stick to reality, logic and facts.

o ok you want facts....DB is NOT the top merchandise seller...DB is NOT the most followed WWE superstar on twitter, DB is NOT the most liked superstar on facebook...come on dude this isnt even an argument. Cena is by far the most known and popular active wrestler on the planet right now. All DB has is a crowd reaction. You said you will stick to reality, logic, and facts and than you didn't use any of those in your argument.

By your logic, If the Rock came back next week and DB had a bigger reaction than the rock, than that would mean DB is more popular than the rock....um NO

DB had a bigger reaction than Hogan the last two weeks, is he more popular than Hogan???

well I guess my point has been proven!

 

[DarksideEric]

o ok you want facts....DB is NOT the top merchandise seller...DB is NOT the most followed WWE superstar on twitter, DB is NOT the most liked superstar on facebook...come on dude this isnt even an argument. Cena is by far the most known and popular active wrestler on the planet right now. All DB has is a crowd reaction. You said you will stick to reality, logic, and facts and than you didn't use any of those in your argument.

By your logic, If the Rock came back next week and DB had a bigger reaction than the rock, than that would mean DB is more popular than the rock....um NO

DB had a bigger reaction than Hogan the last two weeks, is he more popular than Hogan???

well I guess my point has been proven!

I didn't use any in my point? Huh, because I clearly made all my counterpoints to your reference of HHH and Brock being more popular than Bryan, where did I touch on Cena exactly?

Your "point" is still flawed. And actually, in terms of current events, it could easily be argued (once again currently) that Bryan is more popular than Hogan at this moment in time. People want to see Bryan more than they do Hogan at the moment. People are currently very invested in Bryan, they aren't currently invested in Hogan.

Where's your point again?

 

[THTRobtaylor]

I'll show you just how much of a "Kayfabe" I am.



Kurt Angle has accomplished more in pro-wrestling in his first 6 years in the WWE itself and has had more five-star matches than you Daniel Bryan pipsqueak fans would want to admit. As for his alcohol issues, GET REAL, Alcoholism pervades pro-wrestling and as long as he's not a cocaine junkie or comes to work being drunk like Eddie Guerrero or shows up Drugged like Jeff Hardy, Kurt Angle is doing fine. You can accept an abominable old man like Hogan back, but Kurt Angle coming back for a part-time schedule is unwelcome to you? If you think Kurt Angle's got "mental issues", then you're severely mentally challenged.



Get over it. Not EVERYONE in the wrestling business becomes a world champ and Owen accomplished all he could for a man his size, gimmick ,and talent. And quite frankly, with Austin and Rock around, guys like Owen Hart main-eventing would be comical.



Yeah cheers for all that. Bryan's rightful place in the wrestling business is to be the US champ and not more than that. He's the most overrated, pathetic and crappy wrestling gimmick to ever have main-evented and even won. Daniel Bryan should be tag-teaming his entire career and anyone who disagrees only does so because he's Hypnotized by Bryan's lame Yes-movement schtick which ultimately only reveals how undiscerning, unintelligent and ******ed you modern wrestling fans are. If a 5-foot-8'er with crappy mic skills and overrated shctick should main-event WM because the audiences support him and he's over, then you may as well bring AJ styles and give him the Gold. Why have talented, good-looking, and ACTUAL main-eventers like John Cena or Randy Orton around? Bring Chris Sabin and Austin Aries too.



YEAH WOW. Parents can look up to someone like Daniel Bryan and have him be a role model to their kids. ******ed. What makes you idiotic fans think that the Wrestling business is not only about Kids idolizing Wrestlers but also for them to actually want to be like them? More people in the world are like or can be like Daniel Bryan and that's a good thing? What would you rather want your son to be, a short, idiotic-looking, overrated goofball, or a tall, masculine , talented and good-looking wrestler like Randy Orton?

And who ever said the WWE or the wrestling world gives two hoots about wrestlers actually being "role models" and having a postitive impact on the world? NEWS FLASH- WWE couldn't give a shit if your kid's a druggie or an IWC bum. The only thing Vince Mcmahon has ever given a shit about and will give a shit about is MONAYYYYY.

Do you think when people cheered for The Rock, they even remotely wondered or wished that their kids would grow up to become like him? It'd take a GREEK GOD fucking a beautiful Samoan woman to create someone as masculine and handsome as THE ROCK and quite frankly, the stock of most Americans simply sucks for that purpose. Nobody can be the Rock. Your job as fans is to buy a ticket, cheer for those you love, boo those whom you hate.That's ALL. That's the only role Wrestling fans will ever and should ever play and ******ed DB fans are trying to changed that and HHH or the WWE should be drowning before bending themselves because of "the fans".

Daniel Bryan being a positive role model to kids is the biggest load of crap you would bring up in an argument. I don't know what's more despicable and sickening, Daniel Bryan's existence as a pro-wrestler, or ******ed hypnotized fans like you advocating the role-model crap. Wrestling SUPERSTARS aren't very good human beings. More often than not, they're selfish, self-centred egotistical bastards at best, riddled with alcohol, drugs, and domestic absue(Steve Austin, Goldberg, Brock Lesnar, Scott Hall, Kevin Nash, Jeff Hardy, Eddie Guerrero, Chris Benoit, Kurt Angle, Bret Hart, Ric Flair, and the most disgraceful of them all, Terry Bollea).

Besides caring only for money, Vince Mcmahon has always had a demon of feeling inferior because of what he's involved in. It's FAKE WRESTLING. There is no honour, no sportsmanship involved in Pro-wrestling and if it's ever displayed, it's scripted and contrived. Hulk Hogan, Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, Steve Austin, Rock, HHH..were all the biggest egomaniacs in their time and beyond and couldn't give a fuck if their competitors were buried or their careers detracted from. All Hogan ever knew about was himself and his delusional existence of Hulkamania. What's pathetic is that that bastard went to TNA in 2010, and instead of letting real superstars like Kurt Angle shine, made it all about himself. All the Make-a-wish and Anti-Bullying campaign by the WWE is a hokum and a charade to make idiotic and undiscerning bums like you believe that WWE is all about "good" and "pure" and "we care " nonsense. At the end of the day, Vince Mcmahon doesn't give a flying fuck whether it's John Cena, Batista, Randy Orton, or Brock Lesnar that has made him money. All this make-a-wish crap is relatively new and Pro -Wrestling is the last thing where you'd seek "positive" "role models" for your child. Bank on it. Wrestling is a disgusting sport of pretence, and displays all kinds of human nature and emotions, be it jealousy, greed, avarise, or hatred. There's no honour to it, there's certainly no positivity to it. It can be entertaining- that's about it. Entertainment, plain and simple.

Any parent who allows his child to watch pro-wrestling and expects the child to acquire high culture, good values, and talent or accomplishments is downright stupid and ignorant .

Hence, proved.

Here we go...

First off I correct you on this point... Wrestling is an entertainment product based in the world of sport, any disgust is your own, any rage yours cos your folks let you watch it... if you don't LOVE wrestling why are you even here? Do your comments apply to your folks? cos i KNOW they don't to mine... My dad rolled his eyes when I said I wanted to wrestle, but still showed up for every match I had even though he hated it with a passion...why? cos he knew I was doing what I wanted... I didn't do it for long or in front of more than 150 or so at a pop... I have accomplished more in my life and done so with more obstacles...and I got a lot of the drive from watching wrestling... don't diss peoples parents for your own shame...

Now onto your other "points".

Vince McMahon is smarter than you, he is well at peace with what he does, indeed he WANTED to wrestle but was forbidden by his dad. So he reacted by matching the guys in physique, beer for beer, rat for rat and when his time came he took the risk and wrestled... not as well as a Bryan or Kurt Angle... but enough to "scratch his own itch" and make his father's edict look rather sad... Same for Shane who really could have been a World Champ if he'd been masked or had a different surname. Vince aspires to make his business more and that is to be applauded... How he does it is often wrong and he really doesn't have much knack outside of wrestling but he's earned the right to try cos the core product always sells. If in a few years time the chance comes to sell to Disney, he'll grab it... few would blame him.

WWE doesn't care about role models? So Benoit will be the last name for the HOF announced next week then? WWE does care... mainly because there are idiots all over the world who single them out... PTC, the Marines cos someone came out during the anthem... Cos most perceive wrestling as lesser, it's also an easy target to push when you want to make a political statement... I loathe Cena's image with a passion... it's bland, safe, cookie cutter and almost offensive...but KIDS love it and he's not there to please me cos I don't buy his shirts etc... Someone like Bryan comes along who has the legit skill, an intangible AND happens to be an "everyman"... If you grew up with a Cena type for a dad then fair play but most of us didn't... last time I visited my home was at Christmas and I watched wrestling with my nephew and my dad (who hates it still) and my dad commented on Bryan being a lot different to those guys I used to have to watch... My nephew isn't a huge fan of wrestling but he was engaged more with Bryan than Cena... and he is certainly not ******ed.

The point to this is you have basically shit on every wrestling fan including yourself, their parents when the reality is that in the modern world we call every soldier a "hero" when they aren't... and can't say otherwise without being shouted down as evil... Some just sit in a field for 6 months and don't actually do much... so we take our heroes where we can find them and what Bryan and WWE's current message seems to be is "YES...NO MATTER WHAT THE ODDS...YES" and that coupled with my beloved Liverpool's "You'll Never Walk Alone" are the two creedos I would want to teach my kids... and Bryan is a pretty damn good role model for that