WWE Top 25 Intercontinental Champions

[D2J2009]

http://www.wwe.com/classics/top25intercontinentalchamps

This is the link to the list that the WWE made and I was wondering what your feedback was and if you had any problems with this like I did, for instance

1. Christian and Owen Hart not on list
2. Randy Orton higher on list than HBK and Brett Hart
3. Chris Jericho is number 2 and Randy Savage is number 1, which I think should be reversed
4. Ricky Steamboat is behing Jeff Hardy

These are my majors problems with this list and I was wanting your feedback

 

[byrnside]

Firstly it should probably be noted that these typical "Top" lists as presented by the WWE are usually very flawed and most of us have come to accept that. I think in regards to your problems with the list, Steamboat should be a lot higher and Christian could easily replace Jeff Jarrett or Jeff Hardy. I don't necessarily have a problem with Orton being higher than HBK simply because if you looked at a list of the WWE's top 25 WWE champions, it would be reversed. My biggest problem is that The Ultimate Warrior is #3 and Steamboat is #22. Savage is a pretty good choice for #1, though.

 

[donfryeismyhero]

HBK being listed @ 13 is laughable when it should be Orton @ that number imo seeing as how Orton's reign wasn't anything memorable aside from his feud with Foley but Bret is ahead of Randy, I believe #8 if I'm not mistaken. I'm glad Razor Ramon cracked the top 10 although he should not be behind Honky Tonk Man. I have no problem with Macho being @ #1, no disrespect to Y2J btw but Randy held the belt for a whole year plus and had great feuds & matches with Tito Santana, George The Animal, JYD, Bruno Sammartino, Jake The Snake Roberts as well as feuding with Hogan while being the I.C. Champ. If it wasn't for Randy Savage & Ricky Steamboat, there may not of been a Chris Jericho. And while Steamboat is the better wrestler than Jeff Hardy, his reign was very short & the only real memorable thing about it was his winning it.

 

[Midnite Express 2009]

So...Jeff Jarrett is on the list but Owen Hart isn't? God, this is the same Jarrett who basically was given several WCW World Title reigns over & over again. smh. And The Rock isn't in the top 15? What are they looking at? The Rock's IC reign when he was in the Nation and the feud with HHH was classic and something I'd watch any day over Jeff Jarrett.

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

1. I'm not going to throw a fit over Christian and Owen not being on the list. The only thing most people remember about Owen's reign is him breaking Austin's neck and losing the title.

2. I can see why Steamboat is so low due to him wanting time off after he won it. I wonder if Vince immediately regretted putting the title on him after that.

3. I don't even think Jericho should be in the top ten, let alone #2. His first IC reign was memorable because he beat a woman for it. Other than that, his IC reigns have been lackluster and forgettable at best.

4. Shawn Michaels should be in the top five. See, I can say something nice about HBK.

 

[Midnite Express 2009]

The Honky Tonk Man is #6? Are you kidding me? Sure, he had a long reign, but everyone had long reigns back then? This is a joke listing as usual by WWE

 

[DeathClutch]

I'm one of the biggest Owen Hart fans around but Owen did very little as IC champion apart from Austin I and II, due to the nature of storylines and himself being tag team champion at the time, plus with the recent lawsuit with his wife WWE will avoid putting his name out there.

I haven't looked at the list and nor will I, because this isn't an actual list it's some pen pushing suit who's based his opinions of his own accord.

 

[FlairFan2003]

Steamboat doesnt even belong on the list, He lost the title maybe two months later to a low ranked Honky Tonk Man. Now HTM did go on to become a memorable character, but Steamboat's reign was very short and un remarkable. Id have put Shelton Benjamin over him.

 

[xavyer]

In my opinion, there are some people that shouldn't even be on the list, for example, cody Rhodes, ok, he had a couple of runs, the first run he barely even had an oponent, and his second run was very short, Ricky Steamboat, he was a great wrestler, but his IC title run was very short, and there are people that weren't on that list that should have been, like Christian, John Morrison, Carlito, Shelton Benjamin, Kane, and some people on that list should have been much higher than that, for example, i'm not even close to being a Rock's fan, but the guy should have been much higher than that, Triple H and Stone Cold also deserved better, in fact, all three of them deserved to be in the top ten, and what about Test and the British Bulldog, they were great inercontinental champions and weren't even mentioned on the list, how do they rate the superstars? Because some superstars on different list, i have no idea how they get there.........

 

[closet_fan]

Like byrnside wrote, these top whatevers are usually dumb. As long as Savage is No. 1, all is right in the world with me. I could care less about how any of the other 24 are ranked.

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

In my opinion, there are some people that shouldn't even be on the list, for example, cody Rhodes, ok, he had a couple of runs, the first run he barely even had an oponent, and his second run was very short, Ricky Steamboat, he was a great wrestler, but his IC title run was very short, and there are people that weren't on that list that should have been, like Christian, John Morrison, Carlito, Shelton Benjamin, Kane, and some people on that list should have been much higher than that, for example, i'm not even close to being a Rock's fan, but the guy should have been much higher than that, Triple H and Stone Cold also deserved better, in fact, all three of them deserved to be in the top ten, and what about Test and the British Bulldog, they were great inercontinental champions and weren't even mentioned on the list, how do they rate the superstars? Because some superstars on different list, i have no idea how they get there.........

Now, I wasn't a fan of Cody Rhodes' reign as most people were. I believe more in what you do with the belt as opposed to how long you hold it. However, the examples you listed has led to laughter and great amusement on my part. Let's delve deeper, shall we?

Carlito: Had one title defense against Shelton at Vengeance and wasn't even on the card at Summerslam.

Kane: He won the title from HHH at Judgment Day and lost it to Albert a month later with no title defenses in between. I can't leave out that three week reign either in 2002 when the focus was more on the legendary Katie Vick. What a great champion he was.

I think the straw that broke the camel's back was you stating that Test was a great Intercontinental Champion. That 13 day reign was a stuff of genius. I'm surprised they never mention Test as one of the great champions of all time. You should really get to work on that.

 

[Strife543]

I know someone will disagree with this but why isnt Muraco on the list aswell? He has 2 lenghty IC title reigns one was for more than a year. and what about flair. Chyna should be on there because she was the first ever female to hold a male title in pro wrestling history

 

[D2J2009]

Firstly it should probably be noted that these typical "Top" lists as presented by the WWE are usually very flawed and most of us have come to accept that. I think in regards to your problems with the list, Steamboat should be a lot higher and Christian could easily replace Jeff Jarrett or Jeff Hardy. I don't necessarily have a problem with Orton being higher than HBK simply because if you looked at a list of the WWE's top 25 WWE champions, it would be reversed. My biggest problem is that The Ultimate Warrior is #3 and Steamboat is #22. Savage is a pretty good choice for #1, though.

I agree with everything you said and as a matter of fact, I probably would have left Jarrett, Hardy, and Mysterio off the list to put Owen, Christian, and Chyna on there, honestly one that escaped my mind but deserves some consideration would definitely be Shelton Benjamin, His IC title reign had many considering him WHC material, unfortunately his mic skills got him demoted, but he was a very good IC champ

 

[Owen 3:16 says I just stole your Slammy!!]

Im really happy that Macho is number 1. I dont think that Orton should rank higher than Shawn and Bret. Shawn had excellent matches for the I.C belt, The WM 10 ladder match with Razor, great feud with Perfect, Shawn also had the match of the year in 1993 with Marty Jannetty. Bret also had classics, SummerSlam '91 with Perfect, Under-rated match with his WM8 classic with Roddy Piper, SummerSlam '92 match with Bulldog. I would like to see Owen on the list though.

 

[HBKperfect23]

Savage should be top 5 but I dont know about number one. Shawn and Bret should be top 5. But my biggest problem with the list is how low Tito Santana and Greg Valentine are, they should easily be in the top 10. Warrior at 3? He belongs on the list but not that high. Unlike most, I dont have a major problem with HTM being up there, I too, think he may be a little higher then he should be but only by a few spots.

 

[FlairFan2003]

For me a great champion of a secondary title like the US or IC titles is someone who elevates themself with their performance as champion and who makes the title itself a major focal point of programming, makes people care about the belt and title matches.

Randy Savage, Brett Hart, & HBK all fit this mold. Jericho, Orton, & Rock also gained credibility for themselves and made the title important. Flair didnt really elevate himself as his win was at the end of his career but he ended a long drought of short term, relatively meaningless title reigns not just by adding his name to the list of champions but by defending the title successfully against big names like HHH & Edge, plus using the title to get World Title shots (a secondary title should elevate it's holder to top contender status)

Im not sure Christian gained much from his IC title run, Owen Hart basically tread water as well. Owen gained much more from his tag team runs & his initial feud vs Brett. British Bulldog, like Ricky Steamboat, had an awesome title win over a great champion at a major show as one of the showcase bouts, then had a short undistinguished reign ended quickly by an upset loss to an unestablished wrestler who quickly eclipsed their own short runs as a champ. Niether of them in my mind deserves much recognition as far as great champs are concerned.

 

[lil bitch Kid]

Savage at 1 is perfect.

All of you that are upset about Steamboat's ranking are only remembering the match that he won the title. He was champ for a forgettable amount of time. Heck, Santino defended the title more than Ricky. I love Steamboat's work, don't get me wrong, but in the top 25 IC champs, I don't think so.

 

[HBsam31]

I don't even look at these lists anymore that come out from the WWE. I will watch the DVDs just because I get to see my favorite stars from the past. Owen hart didn't do to much with the IC title so I can see him being left off the list. I think Christian deserves a spot though. HBK did a lot more with the IC title than Orton did so I don't get that one. With Savage at number one though I am happy so the list isn't totally off, but these lists by WWE are never really accurate so take them for what they are worth.