WWE should save Lesnar vs Goldberg III for Summerslam, not Wrestlemania

[Deoxyribonucleic A.C.I.D.]

I'll get right to the point here: WWE can make more money, if Goldberg vs Lesnar happens at Summerslam and not Wrestlemania. Why? Because the moment Lesnar beats Goldberg, the mystique of Goldberg will be lost and Goldberg will sadly have to leave. That's how I see things. Goldberg returned because he was challenged by Lesnar. So what's keeping him around after that? The chase to a world title. If however, Lesnar faces Goldberg at WM, he will have to beat him. So naturally, Goldberg will have to leave after that. There's nothing more for him.

That's where my idea comes in to change things.

Reason #2. We are looking at a card that will potentially have Cena vs Undertaker AND Goldberg vs Lesnar at the same night. Tell me, how does that make the rest of the roster look? It makes the roster look like midcarders IMO. Think about this. You have Cena vs Taker and Goldberg vs Lesnar in the primary matches. That's two huge matches. How can anyone else on the roster top that? Everything else will look so much smaller, compared to these two matches.

That's why I believe Lesnar and Goldberg should have two different matches at Wrestlemania, facing two full-time wrestlers, and have their rematch take place at Summerslam. That way, these two people that will go up against Goldberg and Lesnar will look like real stars, just because they're in the same spotlight as Goldberg and Brock Lesnar. Of course, I'm talking about squashes *cough* Lesnar *cough* Ambrose *cough* WM 32. But actual competitive matches.

What do you think about this?
I present a possible way to book something like this in the spoiler tag below.

PS: Cena vs Taker is enough to sell any WM. Brock vs Goldberg can easily sell Summerslam.

The story for whoever is interested
So, both Lesnar and Goldberg are in the Rumble. Lesnar is here because he wants to finish off Goldberg. These two have a confrontation, thay battle a bit. However, Lesnar pays too much attention to Goldberg. This leads to Roman Reings taking advantage of the situation and eliminates Brock Lesnar, while Lesnar has his back turned.
Mainwhile, Goldberg can do two things. If the Elimination Chamber PPV is a RAW exclusive one, Goldberg doesn't have to win the Rumble. If it is a SD exclusive PPV, Goldberg has to win the Rumble. You see, we need to continue the Goldberg cindarella story, so we need Goldberg as the #1 conteder for the UC going into Mania, in order for him to have a target and a reason as to why he's still around.
For Wrestlemania, Lesnar targets Roman Reigns because Roman will be the guy that cost Lesnar the chance to kick Goldberg's ass and eliminate him. Reigns sort off killed Lesnar's dream. Goldberg can go on to face Owens. Huge match for Owens with a big spotlight over his name.
At Wrestlemania, Lesnar beats Reigns (let's get Reigns some fans back) after another great match between those two. Goldberg can either become the champion, or Brock Lesnar can cost him the match.
So that way, can elevate Reigns and especially Owens and two big matches do not end up overshadowing the rest of the card, but every match looks equally important.
RAW can then have the following matches take place at Wrestlemania:
Goldberg vs Owens(c) for the Universal Championship
HHH vs Rollins
Reigns vs Lesnar
Jericho vs Balor

add there Cena vs Taker and the WWE Championship match and you have a really strong card, not only in match action and quality, but also in star value in every match and the spotlight is equally shared to everyone, whereas Goldberg/Lesnar and Cena/Taker would take away so much spotlight from the rest.

Just remember how great the Miz looked after WM 27, just because he was in the middle of the Rock vs Cena feud. That's what can happen to Owens as well.

Also, it doesn't have to be Reigns that eliminates Lesnar. It can easily be someone else, like Rusev or even a SD guy. But he would have to lose in order to keep Lesnar in momentum for the Goldberg rematch. As long as the match doesn't end up like Ambrose vs Lesnar, whoever faces Lesnar, can get a big rub, even without having to beat Brock.

 

[George Steele's Barber]

I'm with you. I would go further in keeping Goldberg off this WM card entirely. Build off Heyman's promo from last week and have Goldberg be Lesnar's "victim", with Lesnar taking liberties to injure Goldberg during the Rumble and putting him out of action beyond Mania. This would build more heat for Lesnar and more story to selling a final match that could happen after Mania.

I'm sure I'm wrong in all this. Who knows the schedule for either guy? WWE has shown some willingness to put more in to their non-WM PPVs. Looking at how well WWE claims last year's WM did with that weakish card makes me think they could spread their talent and money matches out more to make more money. Goldberg/Lesnar seems like a good place to spread things out. It also frees up time for talent that will work more than three matches over the year (one match that was 1:26).

But again I doubt any of this is likely. Vince stills tries to pull out all the stops for Mania (even if it means his kid could have killed himself last year). Goldberg may not want to compete if he doesn't get a Mania match as part of deal. Same with the video game company. Lesnar probably has his own feelings on the story.

 

[Deoxyribonucleic A.C.I.D.]

I'm with you. I would go further in keeping Goldberg off this WM card entirely. Build off Heyman's promo from last week and have Goldberg be Lesnar's "victim", with Lesnar taking liberties to injure Goldberg during the Rumble and putting him out of action beyond Mania. This would build more heat for Lesnar and more story to selling a final match that could happen after Mania.

I'm sure I'm wrong in all this. Who knows the schedule for either guy? WWE has shown some willingness to put more in to their non-WM PPVs. Looking at how well WWE claims last year's WM did with that weakish card makes me think they could spread their talent and money matches out more to make more money. Goldberg/Lesnar seems like a good place to spread things out. It also frees up time for talent that will work more than three matches over the year (one match that was 1:26).

But again I doubt any of this is likely. Vince stills tries to pull out all the stops for Mania (even if it means his kid could have killed himself last year). Goldberg may not want to compete if he doesn't get a Mania match as part of deal. Same with the video game company. Lesnar probably has his own feelings on the story.

Keeping Goldberg away from Wrestlemania doesn't sit will with me, but I see what you are thinking. It would add to the story, the way you present things.

But let's not forget the fact that reports say that "Goldberg is willing to do as many dates as WWE wants him to". This needs to be taken into advantage to also elevate a young guy, or at least put him in the same spotlight as Goldberg.

After all, Lesnar can still injure Goldberg after Wrestlemania, if you go with my story

I still hope that they won't go for both Cena vs Taker and Lesnar vs Goldberg for Wrestlemania. My hopes are coming from the way WM 31 was shaped. You really didn't have a big big match and they could easily have gone with Cena vs Taker and leave Bray and Rusev in the midcard.

 

[FromGlasgow]

I agree its more than likely that Goldberg will be defeated and gone after Wrestlemania. Theres deffinently something wrong if you need to purposely water down some feature matches for fear of nobody else being able to follow them and making the rest of the roster look bad.
The main roster should be able to hold their own if they can't follow 2 guys in their 50's then theres serious problems with this roster.
I say keep it as it is the 2 matches you mentioned should be mainly about nostalgia the younger guys should have the matches of the year in an event as big as Wrestlemania,
They shouldn't need protecting if they do they shouldn't be there.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

It wouldn't bother me because I've no interest in seeing Goldberg vs. Lesnar III at WrestleMania in the first place. I've no real interest in seeing it at all, truth be told, but if I have to have a choice, I'd rather it not be at the biggest show of the year.

The problem is, as it often is, Vince McMahon simply will not do that because he doesn't have the necessary discipline to put off having the match. I get that WrestleMania is the end all, be all event and that it's the biggest show of the year but, the thing is, WrestleMania won't need Goldberg vs. Lesnar to be a huge sellout event. With or without them, WrestleMania will sell out the Camping World Stadium; I've no doubt that they'll sell 60,000+ tickets and I'm all about the biggest show of the year being about the guys who bust their asses carrying the company all year round.

 

[roipdh123]

I actually thought about this and I think if they go this route, they will have Braun Strowman be the guy to go against Brock.
Then the WWE UT match will end via shenanigens with Owens defeating Goldberg after the ref. is taken down, with Lesnar coming out hitting an F5 to Goldberg, then as the ref. goes up, Owens hits Goldberg with 2 Pop Up Powerbombs to retain the title.

It will give us a gigantic mania card featuring:
Cena vs Taker

Owens (C) vs Goldberg
Lesnar vs Strowman
Reigns (C) vs Balor - US Title
Rollins vs Triple H
Sasha Banks\Charlotte (C) vs Bayley - Raw womens title

Styles (C) vs Wyatt
The Miz (C) vs ? - IC Title multy man ladder match.
Alexa Bliss (C) vs Nikki Bella
Big Show vs Shaq

The Revival (C) vs Enzo and Cass - Raw Tag Titles
Orton and Harper (C) vs American Alpha - SD Tag Titles

Meaning that with one tag title defense we have 11 matches on the card.
Kickoff has: one tag title match, cruiserweight open match, and the ATGMBR.

That is a great card feauting tons of star power, and delaying Lesnar\Goldberg III will not be a problem.

 

[WorstWrestlingExcrement]

What is it with cena vs underflaker lol
It will never happen at WM33

WM 33 Card

STING vs Underflaker
Styles vs john cena if styles still holds title


Owens vs Jericho
GOLDBERG vs lesner III
Shaq vs Big Slow
Seth Rollins(UC) vs Finn Balor
Strowman vs Bray Wyatt
Orton and Harper vs American Alpha
Roman Reigns vs Rusev

 

[That N Word]

OR how about just do it at Fastlane? Makes sense rather than having them be on the same card and not target one another or leaving one off of the biggest event of the year all together. SmackDown has the Elimination Chamber. Raw needs something huge. You can do Brock vs. Goldberg III. Instead of having Brock get his win back because that makes him losing in the first place pointless. Have Goldberg win in dominant fashion again. Have Brock start to doubt his self and try to prove his self by going after the Biggest Dog in the yard...ROMAN REIGNS! Have Goldberg come out to announce his retirement after Fastlane,only to be interrupted by...BRAUUUNN!!!

 

[Jack-Hammer]

What is it with cena vs underflaker lol
It will never happen at WM33

WM 33 Card

STING vs Underflaker

Taker vs. Cena has a better shot of happening than Taker vs. Sting. Not saying that it will happen, but it's far more likely. Once WWE puts you in the HOF, that pretty much means that your in-ring career, at least within a WWE ring, is over. Sting suffered significant injury in his match with Seth Rollins, he showed a lot of heart finishing the match but he suffered a significant neck injury; according to Sting himself, at least as of August, he hasn't undergone surgery as he believes that would completely be the end for him inside the ring whether it's in WWE or not.

By the time WrestleMania XXXIII comes around, Sting will officially be 58 years old and WWE is extremely cautious about any talent who've had significant neck injuries wrestle in the first place so just imagine how reluctant they'd be with a near 60 year old.

On top of all that, WWE is being sued by 50+ former personnel who claim WWE mislead them regarding the potential for suffering dangerous head trauma, which some claim to have suffered while working for WWE. Whether anyone feels that any of the cases are relevant or not, it's still something WWE has to take into consideration when it comes to who they put in the ring. If WWE booked Sting in another match knowing that he still has neck issues and he wound up getting hurt even worse, it'd look bad for them regardless of how you look at it. Even if Sting swore up and down on a stack of gold bibles that he signed some sort of waver or that he knew what he was getting into, someone would still rake WWE over the coals for putting the potential draw of another Sting match over concern for his health and safety. Even if it had no bearing on the various lawsuits, the attorney representing the former talent is known to be the type to try to introduce things that aren't viewed as relevant to cases by the judge through the backdoor. It's also a big reason why WWE won't clear Daniel Bryan to wrestle for them anymore.

 

[Deoxyribonucleic A.C.I.D.]

OR how about just do it at Fastlane? Makes sense rather than having them be on the same card and not target one another or leaving one off of the biggest event of the year all together. SmackDown has the Elimination Chamber. Raw needs something huge. You can do Brock vs. Goldberg III. Instead of having Brock get his win back because that makes him losing in the first place pointless. Have Goldberg win in dominant fashion again. Have Brock start to doubt his self and try to prove his self by going after the Biggest Dog in the yard...ROMAN REIGNS! Have Goldberg come out to announce his retirement after Fastlane,only to be interrupted by...BRAUUUNN!!!

naah.. Not at Fast Lane. Goldberg vs Brock has some drawing power and they can sell big gates like Summerslam. Fast Lane will probably happen in a 5,000 people arena. Plus, putting that match between Royal Rumble and Wrestlemania does not give WWE anything, like extra viewers on the Network.

 

[Deoxyribonucleic A.C.I.D.]

Sting will never wrestle again in a WWE ring. Don't you see it? That train has passed. Plus who wants to see Sting vs Taker anymore? Doing what? Hitting their finishers on each other 3 times, doing some bumps and then the pinfall?

The only thing WWE should do with Sting is to have him appear in the same ring as Undertaker, at least ONCE. After all, that's what people really want, not a match. Maybe a tag team match at best, like Sting and Undertaker vs The Wyatt Family. But not at Wrestlemania.

Also, it's too early for Braun to be skyrocketed in a position against Goldberg or Lesnar. We bash WWE for pushing Reigns too fast but we're not going to bash them if they have Braun face these legends? it will be worst than Bray vs Cena. Learn that when a talent is not ready, there's no chance he's going to defeat the bigger dog. I have various examples to prove this: HHH vs Sheamus, Cena vs Wyatt, Cena vs Barrett, Warrior vs HHH, Hart vs Austin the first times, Undertaker vs Bray, Undertaker vs Heindrich. Mosnter heels fail, because they're pushed too hard too soon. Let him grow. The guy just started getting a freaking reaction. He needs time. When he gets booed out of the building and people PAY to see HIM, that's when he will be ready to face Lesnar, Goldberg, Undertaker and Cena.

 

[kadroan]

I'll get right to the point here: WWE can make more money, if Goldberg vs Lesnar happens at Summerslam and not Wrestlemania. Why? Because the moment Lesnar beats Goldberg, the mystique of Goldberg will be lost and Goldberg will sadly have to leave. That's how I see things. Goldberg returned because he was challenged by Lesnar. So what's keeping him around after that? The chase to a world title. If however, Lesnar faces Goldberg at WM, he will have to beat him. So naturally, Goldberg will have to leave after that. There's nothing more for him.

That's where my idea comes in to change things.

Reason #2. We are looking at a card that will potentially have Cena vs Undertaker AND Goldberg vs Lesnar at the same night. Tell me, how does that make the rest of the roster look? It makes the roster look like midcarders IMO. Think about this. You have Cena vs Taker and Goldberg vs Lesnar in the primary matches. That's two huge matches. How can anyone else on the roster top that? Everything else will look so much smaller, compared to these two matches.

That's why I believe Lesnar and Goldberg should have two different matches at Wrestlemania, facing two full-time wrestlers, and have their rematch take place at Summerslam. That way, these two people that will go up against Goldberg and Lesnar will look like real stars, just because they're in the same spotlight as Goldberg and Brock Lesnar. Of course, I'm talking about squashes *cough* Lesnar *cough* Ambrose *cough* WM 32. But actual competitive matches.

What do you think about this?
I present a possible way to book something like this in the spoiler tag below.

PS: Cena vs Taker is enough to sell any WM. Brock vs Goldberg can easily sell Summerslam.

The story for whoever is interested
So, both Lesnar and Goldberg are in the Rumble. Lesnar is here because he wants to finish off Goldberg. These two have a confrontation, thay battle a bit. However, Lesnar pays too much attention to Goldberg. This leads to Roman Reings taking advantage of the situation and eliminates Brock Lesnar, while Lesnar has his back turned.
Mainwhile, Goldberg can do two things. If the Elimination Chamber PPV is a RAW exclusive one, Goldberg doesn't have to win the Rumble. If it is a SD exclusive PPV, Goldberg has to win the Rumble. You see, we need to continue the Goldberg cindarella story, so we need Goldberg as the #1 conteder for the UC going into Mania, in order for him to have a target and a reason as to why he's still around.
For Wrestlemania, Lesnar targets Roman Reigns because Roman will be the guy that cost Lesnar the chance to kick Goldberg's ass and eliminate him. Reigns sort off killed Lesnar's dream. Goldberg can go on to face Owens. Huge match for Owens with a big spotlight over his name.
At Wrestlemania, Lesnar beats Reigns (let's get Reigns some fans back) after another great match between those two. Goldberg can either become the champion, or Brock Lesnar can cost him the match.
So that way, can elevate Reigns and especially Owens and two big matches do not end up overshadowing the rest of the card, but every match looks equally important.
RAW can then have the following matches take place at Wrestlemania:
Goldberg vs Owens(c) for the Universal Championship
HHH vs Rollins
Reigns vs Lesnar
Jericho vs Balor

add there Cena vs Taker and the WWE Championship match and you have a really strong card, not only in match action and quality, but also in star value in every match and the spotlight is equally shared to everyone, whereas Goldberg/Lesnar and Cena/Taker would take away so much spotlight from the rest.

Just remember how great the Miz looked after WM 27, just because he was in the middle of the Rock vs Cena feud. That's what can happen to Owens as well.

Also, it doesn't have to be Reigns that eliminates Lesnar. It can easily be someone else, like Rusev or even a SD guy. But he would have to lose in order to keep Lesnar in momentum for the Goldberg rematch. As long as the match doesn't end up like Ambrose vs Lesnar, whoever faces Lesnar, can get a big rub, even without having to beat Brock.

Interesting idea. The only justifiable reason I'd save Goldberg vs. Brock for Summerslam is if they have Goldberg win the RR and face Owens at WM for the title.

He's the hottest act on RAW and probably the best opponent for Owens to get people talking about the Universal title match at WM. I like Balor and Jericho but they don't have the buzz Goldberg got.

Meanwhile, a Brock vs. Reigns match at WM would be interesting, especially if it was for the United States Championship.

 

[ShinChan]

It wouldn't bother me because I've no interest in seeing Goldberg vs. Lesnar III at WrestleMania in the first place. I've no real interest in seeing it at all, truth be told, but if I have to have a choice, I'd rather it not be at the biggest show of the year.

The problem is, as it often is, Vince McMahon simply will not do that because he doesn't have the necessary discipline to put off having the match. I get that WrestleMania is the end all, be all event and that it's the biggest show of the year but, the thing is, WrestleMania won't need Goldberg vs. Lesnar to be a huge sellout event. With or without them, WrestleMania will sell out the Camping World Stadium; I've no doubt that they'll sell 60,000+ tickets and I'm all about the biggest show of the year being about the guys who bust their asses carrying the company all year round.

On point, sir.

I don't have any interest in Goldberg Vs. Brock Lesnar III whatsoever. There's no logic behind having a trilogy when a person has already won both his matches. The score is 2-0. Either it will become 2-1 or it will become 3-0. In both cases, there's no change in who wins the feud itself. Goldberg Vs. Brock Lesnar III shouldn't happen.

Infact, give Goldberg and Brock Lesnar separate matches at Wrestlemania 33.

 

[shanezam203]

I agree 100%, I liked the quick squash at Survivor Series and I am not looking forward to all the build up towards a Brock vs. Goldberg III between Royal Rumble and Wrestlemania.