WWE Region, Fourth Round, Hell in a Cell: (1) Hulk Hogan vs. (12) Brock Lesnar

[nightmare]

2003 in which he won the WWE title at wrestlemania after winning the Royal Rumble and won a 60 minute ironman match for the WWE title

He tore through everything. Brock Lesnar would have done the same back then. Right through Hogan. Just like Warrior did. Brock is warrior +. Scary strong this kid is. And yes, to answer an earlier question- Yes, Brock Lesnar can out wrestle him. He can also beat him unconscious.


The guy only knows how to do a few things. Eat. Sleep. Conquer. Repeat.

 

[Jaffa]

Rules are there. It applies.






You do know it is very possible to get in\out of the cell, right?





Yes, we can.





Because you are dumb & some of those people are the same person. Thats why.

Please show me where it says we should assume that managers who weren't there for 6 months of their full time career apply. Please show me no really please I beg you.

So the manager who may or may not be there may or may not interfere in the match........... yer fair point clearly Brock is winning this

Please show me where it says we should assume that managers who weren't there for 6 months of their full time career apply. Please show me no really please I beg you. I am really not sure how you can't comprehend this

"Because you are dumb" wow that sure highlights how clever you are. Man no on would ever use the same wrestler and use their different ring names to make a point ever would they

 

[Richard Blonoff]

There is a song by Ben Folds, Draw A Crowd. In it he states that if you can't draw a crowd, then draw dicks on the wall. Brock didn't have a wall, so he drew a great big dick on his chest.

Seriously Brock never drew shit. Hogan is the biggest draw in pro wrestling history. I don't like Hogan, but he wins this. The HIAC setting helps Brock out, but it doesn't help him win. Prime Hogan would get beat on for about ten or twelve minutes before he Hulks up and knocks Brock out with his first punch to the face. Watch his UFC career, Brock couldn't take a punch(or a knee to the gut for that matter). So how is he going to take a punch with the entire power of America behind it? He won't.

Eat. Sleep. Cry. Get Beat.

 

[Jaffa]

He tore through everything. Brock Lesnar would have done the same back then. Right through Hogan. Just like Warrior did. Brock is warrior +. Scary strong this kid is. And yes, to answer an earlier question- Yes, Brock Lesnar can out wrestle him. He can also beat him unconscious.


The guy only knows how to do a few things. Eat. Sleep. Conquer. Repeat.

I enjoy how you twisted my words when I showed how Hogan's whole career has a higher win percentage than Lesnar's most dominate year. Brock Lesnar in this year could barely beat a 9 month in WWE career John Cena. He always wins does he bro that's why he lost to a prime his Kurt Angle for the WWE title much dominance. Lesnar couldn't even beat a well past his prime Goldberg at Wrestlemania 20 and you think he could beat an in his prime Hogan

 

[Big Sexy]

Let's debunk some myths:

1. "Brock Lesnar has the HIAC advantage." Why? Because he fought in a total of ONE HIAC match? Last time I checked the HIAC was just a cage with a top on it. Hogan has won a countless number of cage matches against the likes of Savage, Flair, Andre, Vader, etc.

2. "This match already happened and Lesnar won." It happened in 2002 when Lesnar was destroying everything in his path (including the biggest star in the company, The Rock). Hogan was just shy of 50 years old and no where near his prime. Even with all that said, Paul Heyman interfered a couple times during that match and in one instance his interference prevented a likely Hogan victory. If anything the fact a near 50 year old Hogan may have beaten Brock if not for Heyman is a good argument for Hogan.

Hogan at the height of his career and the height of Hulkamania just didn't lose. You can bring up the Warrior all you want but that was near the end of the original Hulkamania run, Warrior was a face, and Warrior at that time was more over and a bigger star then Lesnar ever was during his career. Vote Hogan.

 

[Dragon Chief]

There is a song by Ben Folds, Draw A Crowd. In it he states that if you can't draw a crowd, then draw dicks on the wall. Brock didn't have a wall, so he drew a great big dick on his chest.

Seriously Brock never drew shit. Hogan is the biggest draw in pro wrestling history. I don't like Hogan, but he wins this. The HIAC setting helps Brock out, but it doesn't help him win. Prime Hogan would get beat on for about ten or twelve minutes before he Hulks up and knocks Brock out with his first punch to the face. Watch his UFC career, Brock couldn't take a punch(or a knee to the gut for that matter). So how is he going to take a punch with the entire power of America behind it? He won't.

Eat. Sleep. Cry. Get Beat.

If you are going to use UFC as an argument to defend Hulk Hogan then you have to acknowledge that Brock Lesnar was the biggest draw the UFC has ever had. Not only that but he was in the co-main-event of WrestleMania 29, the second highest attended event in WWE history and the highest grossing event in WWE history. SummerSlam 2011 had 296,000 buys, SummerSlam 2012, the one Brock Lesnar headlined had 358,000 buys. Extreme Rules 2012 and 2013 both headlined by Brock Lesnar were the ones that got the most buys in WWE history. Proving Brock Lesnar is a draw.

Also, Brock Lesnar can take a punch, he was able to handle Shane Carwin's pounding for an entire round, comeback and defeat him via submission. The only person who really beat Lesnar with punches was Cain Velasquez and even he had to dish out quite a few to finally do the job. As for the Overeem (who was on steroids might I add) fight, he took a few knees and kicks to the gut before he finally was taken down. You have to take into consideration Brock Lesnar wasn't really himself after his disease, the last time we truly got to see the real Brock Lesnar in the UFC was against Frank Mir where he destroyed him.

The year before Hogan faced Savage at mania Savage won 70.9% of his matches that year. In Lesnar's most dominate year 2003 in which he won the WWE title at wrestlemania after winning the Royal Rumble and won a 60 minute ironman match for the WWE title won 70.1% of his matches. The man who beat Hogan Ultimate Warrior won 87.8% of his matches the year before he faced Hogan at mania which clearly shows how he was far less dominate than Lesnar.
Hogan has won a total of 76.5% of all his matches Lesnar 72.4%
Brock's longest WWE title reign was 152 days people with longer reigns include
CM Punk
John Cena x 2
Triple H
Randy Orton x 2
The Miz
Stone Cold
Shawn Michaels
Diesel
Bret Hart x 2
Yokozuna
Randy Savage
Ultimate Warrior
Hulk Hogan x 3
Bob Backland
Billy Graham
Pedro Morales
Bruno Sammartino x 2
If 17 other people out of the 44 people roughly 39% that have been Lesnar have held the title for longer including Hogan 3 times how is Lesnar so dominate? If Lesnar is so dominate then how come Hogan has a higher overall win percentage than Lesnar does in his most dominate year? Brock Lesnar in his prime was trading victories with Kurt Angle in his prime. Kurt Angle and Brock Lesnar and I guess Kurt Angle was as good as and better than Ultimate Warrior, Randy Savage, Roddy Piper, Andre The Giant and Hogan himself.

Brock Lesnar's longest reign as WWE champion is 152 days? Okay. Brock Lesnar has also never lost the WWE title in a singles match clean, the two times he lost the title in a singles match was because of Goldberg and Paul Heyman's interference, the other time in a triple threat match. Brock never traded victories with Kurt Angle, they had three matches in the WWE, Brock won two of them. If this tournament is based off of who held the title the longest, then CM Punk would not have lost to Brock Lesnar earlier in the tournament. Try arguing CM Punk being a more dominate wrestler than Brock Lesnar because he held the title longer.

As for Randy Savage and Ultimate Warrior having more overall wins than Brock during his prime year, isn't really a fair comparison to make, Brock Lesnar wrestled on SmackDown every week plus 8 PPVs that year. Whereas Randy Savage was a part of 4 PPVs and super-cards.

 

[Loveless]

Hogan was just shy of 50 years old and no where near his prime.

And yet "Prime" enough to beat HHH and be WWE champion. Then he ran into Brock and got decimated.
I'm taking Brock here because I see no logical reason to do otherwise. The people citing UFC, draw-rates, win-rates, all either irrelevant arguments or can be put down to era-booking.

 

[Big Sexy]

And yet "Prime" enough to beat HHH and be WWE champion. Then he ran into Brock and got decimated.

How is that a negative against Hogan? He was so good even at nearly 50 years old he could still beat big names and be WWE champion. It still doesn't change the fact that Hogan was not nearly as good at 50 as he was in his 30s at the height of Hulkamania. He also nearly beat Brock in the match they had in 2002, but Heyman interference prevented that.

 

[nightmare]

Please show me where it says we should assume that managers who weren't there for 6 months of their full time career apply. Please show me no really please I beg you.

So the manager who may or may not be there may or may not interfere in the match........... yer fair point clearly Brock is winning this

Please show me where it says we should assume that managers who weren't there for 6 months of their full time career apply. Please show me no really please I beg you. I am really not sure how you can't comprehend this

"Because you are dumb" wow that sure highlights how clever you are. Man no on would ever use the same wrestler and use their different ring names to make a point ever would they

If you think that Heyman would not be at ringside for this, then you really are just being silly.


From Here on out I just cant take you seriously. You listed the gimmick names of each of those guys separately either to inflate your exaggerated list of a point- or you really are just dumb & think those separate gimmicks will all show up at the same time.


Either way, end result.


In every contest here the record between the 2 competitors has weight. So how can that be denied here? Lesnar destroyed Hogan in their contest. The guy is a machine. Why on earth would this be any different when inside a Cell? If anything Hogan will get fucked up faster when Brock flings him into the cage a few times. Belly to belly here, an F-5 there... I sure as hell know it will hurt a lot more than Hogan running Brock into the walls.


Hogan cant beat Brock on the mat. He cant beat Brock in power. Hogan had a task with Andre\Warrior- how the hell do you think Hogan will survive someone as fast, talented & ****** strong like Brock? Because I dont see a body slam, punches, leg drop or fingerpoke of doom taking down Lesnar. Hogan is getting hurt here. Lesnar will walk around the ring with his lifeless body upon his shoulders. F-5 or pick your poison. Lesnar wins either way.

 

[FitFinlay4Life]

HiaC, huh? Against the guy who put the "1" in "21&1", huh? Who defeated the 'Deadman' in such a match (a match Taker is renowned for), huh? A man who has defeated red and yellow Hogan, huh? He made Hulk pass out to a mere bearhug, huh? Odds seem REALLY stacked against Hulkamania here...

Oops, for a second there I forgot who we were talking about! 'The Immortal' Hulk Hogan! The man who squashed Iron Shiek, in the process being the first to break his Camel Clutch. The man who made a legacy of facing opponents he had no hope of defeating (they were bigger, stronger, more vicious, had injured him, were better technical wrestlers, they had managers/ backup etc etc etc). None of this mattered, he always overcame.

These days, we have an exact equivalent - his name is John Cena. Everything that I've just said applied to Hulk now applies to John. What happened when Cena came up against Brock Lesnar with everything stacked against him in a match every bit as vicious as HiaC? He came out on top!

Talk all you want about the things mentioned in the top paragraph. Should this match have happened in the 80s or now - (just as the Cenation did) Hulkamania would run wild... BROTHER!!! [Sorry, couldn't resist]

 

[Rayne]

Brock takes the four weeks before the match and the first twelve minutes of the match, looking like an unstoppable beast. Hulk Hogan kicks out at two and a half, hulks up, takes Brock's offense without selling, punch, clothesline, leg drop.

Seriously, have some of you ever watched a Hulk Hogan program? This was the Hulk Hogan program until the late 1990's.

"But oh, the big scary monster is in a ____________ this time, there's no way the hero can persevere!" On behalf of the entire board, I thank you for having this opinion, because it's this kind of attitude that keeps people buying PPV's and house show tickets and keeps this whole scam from coming apart.

It's a brutal battle, and the ADD generation whose memory stretches back all of a month will make this a close vote, but the match itself is very standard Hogan fare.

 

[SSJPhenom]

I'm completely sold on Brock Lesnar winning this match, however, I just want to address a few things.

The argument that the HIAC is just a cage with a roof is fucking ridiculous and to those of you that have used this argument, you're grasping at straws. The HIAC and cage matches of Hogan's era are completely different match types. In Hogan's era, to win a cage match, one had to escape. In the HIAC Hogan can't escape for a victory, he's going to have to pin Brock and I'm sorry but a few Hogan-esque chair shots, a weight belt whipping, and a nail rake to Lesnar's back just isn't gonna get it done. Sure Hogan will put up a fight, but in this environment, Lesnar is going to put up a better fight. Lesnar defeated the Undertaker inside HIAC in convincing fashion. The Undertaker once defeated "Hulkamania" Hogan by simply Tombstoning him onto a chair. Lesnar is going to do far worse to Hogan than that.

Also, those of you citing that Lesnar's one HIAC match means nothing are also grasping at straws. Lesnar's one HIAC match was against the man that threw Mick Foley off of the cell, the man who choke-slammed Foley through the roof of the cell, and the man who popularized the HIAC match itself. That gives Lesnar a significant advantage against Hogan in this match.

I understand that Hogan is bigger star than Brock but he's not going to win this match. It's the gimmick rounds that are supposed to stop this thing from coming down to Hogan, Austin, The Rock, and Cena every year. In any other match I would've voted for Hogan, however, it's just bad luck on Hogan's part that he drew this match type against the Beast Incarnate. Eat. Sleep. Conquer. Hulkamania.

Vote Lesnar.

 

[FitFinlay4Life]

Lesnar didn't lose to Big Show after a single choke slam onto a chair? Taker never lost HiaC matches both prior too and after Lesnar?

You've said that in any other type of match, you'd give the nod to Hogan... so 60 minute Ironman, 3 stages of hell, TLC - Hogan wins; but HiaC - he loses? Am I the only person seeing a lack of logic here?

 

[SSJPhenom]

Lesnar didn't lose to Big Show after a single choke slam onto a chair? Taker never lost HiaC matches both prior too and after Lesnar?

You've said that in any other type of match, you'd give the nod to Hogan... so 60 minute Ironman, 3 stages of hell, TLC - Hogan wins; but HiaC - he loses? Am I the only person seeing a lack of logic here?

I certainly would vote Hogan over in a 60 minute Iron Man match. It would depend on on the matches for the 3 stages of hell, however, in most other matches, Hogan would probably win. You're locking Hogan in a Cell, a match type he's never had, where there is no escape, against a man who destroyed Undertaker in this very same match. Against a man who can be proven to be far more vicious than Hogan. Compare Lesnar to the King Kong Bundys and Earthquakes all you want but Lesnar isn't your typical run of the mill monster that Hogan faced all the time in his prime. Fist of all, Hogan's monsters could never win the big ones. Not only has Lesnar won the big ones, but he destroyed everyone he went up against. This includes beating the biggest star in the business during Lesnar's initial run, The Rock.

At the end of the day I just can't see Hogan being as vicious as Lesnar or being able to mount enough offense to keep Lesnar down.

 

[Big Sexy]

The argument that the HIAC is just a cage with a roof is fucking ridiculous and to those of you that have used this argument, you're grasping at straws. The HIAC and cage matches of Hogan's era are completely different match types. In Hogan's era, to win a cage match, one had to escape. In the HIAC Hogan can't escape for a victory, he's going to have to pin Brock and I'm sorry but a few Hogan-esque chair shots, a weight belt whipping, and a nail rake to Lesnar's back just isn't gonna get it done. Sure Hogan will put up a fight, but in this environment, Lesnar is going to put up a better fight. Lesnar defeated the Undertaker inside HIAC in convincing fashion. The Undertaker once defeated "Hulkamania" Hogan by simply Tombstoning him onto a chair. Lesnar is going to do far worse to Hogan than that.

It takes longer to climb out of a cage and escape then it takes to cover someone for three seconds. Hogan's offense has been plenty good enough to beat Andre the Giant, the Big Show, Vader, Undertaker, etc, so he could definitely pin Brock Lesnar.

Also, those of you citing that Lesnar's one HIAC match means nothing are also grasping at straws. Lesnar's one HIAC match was against the man that threw Mick Foley off of the cell, the man who choke-slammed Foley through the roof of the cell, and the man who popularized the HIAC match itself. That gives Lesnar a significant advantage against Hogan in this match.

The Undertaker can do all the vicious things he wants. The fact remains he is 5-6 all time in HIAC matches so it's not like Lesnar beat him in a match that he didn't lose. Some of those involved interference but Batista also beat Taker clean in a HIAC, does that mean you'd vote Batista over Hogan?

 

[Jaffa]

If you think that Heyman would not be at ringside for this, then you really are just being silly.


From Here on out I just cant take you seriously. You listed the gimmick names of each of those guys separately either to inflate your exaggerated list of a point- or you really are just dumb & think those separate gimmicks will all show up at the same time.


Either way, end result.


In every contest here the record between the 2 competitors has weight. So how can that be denied here? Lesnar destroyed Hogan in their contest. The guy is a machine. Why on earth would this be any different when inside a Cell? If anything Hogan will get fucked up faster when Brock flings him into the cage a few times. Belly to belly here, an F-5 there... I sure as hell know it will hurt a lot more than Hogan running Brock into the walls.


Hogan cant beat Brock on the mat. He cant beat Brock in power. Hogan had a task with Andre\Warrior- how the hell do you think Hogan will survive someone as fast, talented & ****** strong like Brock? Because I dont see a body slam, punches, leg drop or fingerpoke of doom taking down Lesnar. Hogan is getting hurt here. Lesnar will walk around the ring with his lifeless body upon his shoulders. F-5 or pick your poison. Lesnar wins either way.

What's that you can't show me where it says Heyman will be ringside.

You say you can't take me seriously but you count a Hogan loss when he was 49 as evidence of Hogan in his prime. Brock can't beat a somewhat past his prime John Cena who had just lost to The Rock after not having a match since Wrestlemania 20 but The Rock could beat him.

What you mean Cactus Jack and Mankind are the same guy no fucking way!!!!!!

Of course you can't see a Leg Drop taking down Lesnar he has to be already down for Hogan to hit it you idiot. If a near 50 year old Hogan can knock down Lesnar I think a Hogan in his prime can beat him

 

[Jaffa]

You all harp on about what a star Brock is oh he beat The Undertaker in a Hell in a Cell match (loses half his hell in a cell matches). Oh Hogan can't run away yer Hogan in his prime was known as a massive pussy. Yer but Lesnar has weapons worked so well against the modern day Hogan in Cena at Extreme Rules 2 years ago. Yer but Lesnar was past his prime Brock was 34 as oppposed to when Hogan lost to Lesnar at age 49. But still Hogan can't take this kind of beating where Lesnar would bloody him with weapons oh you mean unlike Wrestlemania VII when Hogan was bloodied with a illegally used chair shot.

Lesnar is such a monster
He won a Royal Rumble - As did Hogan who won 2 in a row
He won a Wrestlemania Mainevent - As did Hogan 7 times
He won the WWE Title 3 times - Hogan won the WWE title 6 times and the WCW Title 6 times including some of the longest reigns in the history of both titles
He was a New Japan Champion - Hogan beat Inoki in New Japan to win a tournament before there even was a title
He won King of the Ring - That is something Hogan has never done but Owen Hart was a King of the Ring doesn't mean he'd go over Hogan though

To those who say win loss records are irrelevant when proving Hogan would win. Actually if your argument is Lesnar is a dominant BROCK SMASH if he doesn't win as much he isn't as dominate is he?

 

[DarksideEric]

Of course you can't see a Leg Drop taking down Lesnar he has to be already down for Hogan to hit it you idiot. If a near 50 year old Hogan can knock down Lesnar I think a Hogan in his prime can beat him

I have no doubt that a Prime Hogan has a good chance to beat a Prime Lesnar.

But I also think a Prime Lesnar has a good chance to beat a Prime Hogan in a match such as a Hell in a Cell.

Not just a Hell in a Cell, I think any match that would allow access to weaponry for additional brutality helps swing the match in favor of Lesnar.

Lesnar is a "generic monster heel," but he's above the class of "generic monster heel" that Hogan was known for putting down.

Lesnar is a better class of wrestler than Bundy, Hercules, Earthquake, Zeus, etc, all generic monster heels that Hogan defeated.

I think, because this is a Hell in a Cell, Lesnar would push his "Beast" side to the limit to defeat Hogan. Hogan would keep up with him for a good long while, but I don't think he'd beat him and it would be a shocking ending in MSG.

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

I'm completely sold on Brock Lesnar winning this match, however, I just want to address a few things.

The argument that the HIAC is just a cage with a roof is fucking ridiculous and to those of you that have used this argument, you're grasping at straws. The HIAC and cage matches of Hogan's era are completely different match types. In Hogan's era, to win a cage match, one had to escape. In the HIAC Hogan can't escape for a victory, he's going to have to pin Brock and I'm sorry but a few Hogan-esque chair shots, a weight belt whipping, and a nail rake to Lesnar's back just isn't gonna get it done. Sure Hogan will put up a fight, but in this environment, Lesnar is going to put up a better fight. Lesnar defeated the Undertaker inside HIAC in convincing fashion. The Undertaker once defeated "Hulkamania" Hogan by simply Tombstoning him onto a chair. Lesnar is going to do far worse to Hogan than that.

Also, those of you citing that Lesnar's one HIAC match means nothing are also grasping at straws. Lesnar's one HIAC match was against the man that threw Mick Foley off of the cell, the man who choke-slammed Foley through the roof of the cell, and the man who popularized the HIAC match itself. That gives Lesnar a significant advantage against Hogan in this match.

I understand that Hogan is bigger star than Brock but he's not going to win this match. It's the gimmick rounds that are supposed to stop this thing from coming down to Hogan, Austin, The Rock, and Cena every year. In any other match I would've voted for Hogan, however, it's just bad luck on Hogan's part that he drew this match type against the Beast Incarnate. Eat. Sleep. Conquer. Hulkamania.

Vote Lesnar.

1. Lesnar's been beat by Cena who give him an AA on steel steps and HHH with the Pedigree. What's your point?

2. If Lesnar had beat Undertaker in convincing fashion, the match would have lasted shorter than 27 minutes. Lesnar "dominated" for about 25% of that match. Watch it again.

 

[DarksideEric]

1. Lesnar's been beat by Cena who give him an AA on steel steps and HHH with the Pedigree. What's your point?

Well, to touch on this... Hogan has no such high impact moves in his arsenal usually, from what I remember. Hogan is known for keeping it extremely basic.

2. If Lesnar had beat Undertaker in convincing fashion, the match would have lasted shorter than 27 minutes. Lesnar "dominated" for about 25% of that match. Watch it again.

Hogan is well known for getting beat up or going even for much of the match and then "Hulking Up" for the last few minutes of it. How often has Hogan "dominated" his high caliber opponents? Hell, especially with heel Hogan, how many times have people been getting beat up by him then come back to win?

 

[ocekit]

I've seen Hogan do some pretty vicious stuff. I wouldn't be surprised if he brought sand or powder with him and threw it in Brock's eyes, blinding him at the start, then choked him with his own t-shirt.

The HIAC and cage matches of Hogan's era are completely different match types. In Hogan's era, to win a cage match, one had to escape.

Which requires you to keep your opponent down a lot longer than a pin does. Plus they were often fighting in good old Big Blue, which caused larger amounts of damage to the wrestlers when they hit it compared to modern wire versions. I'd rather hit the side of the cell than the side of an old school steel cage.

Lesnar's one HIAC match was against the man that threw Mick Foley off of the cell, the man who choke-slammed Foley through the roof of the cell, and the man who popularized the HIAC match itself.

Wasn't Lesnar's one HiaC match against a guy wearing a cast on his broken hand? I don't remember much from that match, but despite being a decent weapon, wouldn't that cast have hindered Taker a bit?

Brock's not going to just smash through a prime Hulk Hogan, and a prime Hogan isn't going to completely run wild on Brock either.

 

[Big Nick Dudley]

I can't believe some people are actually voting Lesnar due to the "brutality" of the cell match. Get with reality. A cell match is the same thing as a cage match, which Hogan has dominated in over time.

 

[Big Sexy]

"Hogan's offense isn't powerful enough" had become the new "Hogan can't climb a ladder." I mean Jesus Christ people are you really convincing yourselves that you have a legitimate argument with that bullshit? Last time I checked Hogan has used the same offense his entire career and last time I checked that same offense was good enough to beat Piper, Andre, Flair, Savage, Taker, Big Show, Vader, Triple H, HBK, Randy Orton, Yokozuna, Inoki, Terry Funk, etc. He could and would beat Brock Lesnar with that same offense. In fact in their 2002 match that same offense from a near 50 year old Hogan had Brock nearly beat until Heyman interfered.

 

[The Brain]

I'll go with Lesnar for a few reasons.

Lesnar was booked unbelievably strong during his first year in WWE. He went over Hogan, Rock, Taker, Show, and Angle. He won KOTR, the Royal Rumble, and the world title in the main event at WrestleMania. This was all in his first year in the WWE. Lesnar was clearly being built as the next top guy and who know how far he would have gone if he didn't lose interest in wrestling a year later. Hogan hardly ever lost in the WWF and the only reason he would is if he was against someone that the promotion really believed in. They believed in Lesnar.

Now that Taker's WrestleMania streak is over it's become kind of trendy to talk about how overrated it is. People suddenly think less of it because it was just a fake streaked created by the booking team. Here's a news flash. Every result in wrestling was fake and created by a booking team, including every win Hogan got when Hulkamania was running wild. The fact remains that Lesnar was able to pull off a truly shocking victory against Taker at mania. If he can shock the world and pin Taker he can do the same against Hogan.

Another reason I'm voting for Lesnar is because I like the wrestlezone tournament. There are going to be people that argue popularity and drawing power throughout the tournament. That's fine but for certain matches I like to use more imagination. I tend to use those arguments in the early rounds but as we get later in the tournament everyone is a big star so I'd rather imagine how an actual match may go. Since I enjoy the tournament I like to mix things up a bit. If I used the popularity and drawing power argument in every match regardless of gimmick and other factors I would just vote for Hogan in every match and not bother with anything else. That may seem like a tired old argument but it's true. If you're just going to ignore the variables and have already decided to vote for Hogan not matter what before a single match is announced then what's the fun in this?

 

[nightmare]

Brock can win this, he has proven to be able to destroy Hogan. Simply put the guy has beaten the best & has even done the unthinkable. I have already proven my points & you so shockingly have failed to realize the solid logic behind or really disprove- but I think that this takes the cake for you missing the point.....

Of course you can't see a Leg Drop taking down Lesnar he has to be already down for Hogan to hit it you idiot. If a near 50 year old Hogan can knock down Lesnar I think a Hogan in his prime can beat him

You really dont understand when others are speaking to you, huh? I think you missed the point as to why the Leg Drop was mentioned...


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Ladies and Gentlemen:

Hulkamania runs wild right into NYC & then is beaten unconscious by Brock Lesnar. That is the end. Wanna know how? Because I have seen it done. I will take a verifiable fact over a hypothetical situation any day.


Now lets all smear the blood of Hulkamania across our chest & see how the rest of the brackets work out.