WWE Payback - The Shield VS Evolution II

[Jack-Hammer]

After last night's events, Evolution accepted The Shield's invitation for a rematch at Payback. They had a great, highly entertaining six man tag match at Extreme Rules, so there's no real reason to expect this will be any different.

If reports are true that Batista will be taking time off after Payback in order to start promotional work for Guardians of the Galaxy, it seems likely that The Shield will pick up another victory in a means that results in Batista sustaining "injury" to write him off television. Then again, I suppose it's always possible for Evolution to pick up a victory due to outside interference. Recent reports allege that Sheamus may be stepping in as the new member of the group. Since he recently took the US title from Dean Ambrose and has been a victim of The Shield numerous times in the past, I could see him coming up out of nowhere after Batista is laid out & ready to be pinned, the ref is distracted by the other participants brawling all over the place around ringside, Sheamus pops up out of nowhere, delivers the Brogue Kick and drapes Batista over the prone Shield member before quickly ducking out of sight so that Evolution picks up the win.

 

[laodaron]

I agree. There is a zero sum heat gain if The Shield goes over again clean. All that does is indicate that they are just outright better than Evolution, which does no one any good in the short or long run.

We saw on Raw last night that The Shield just fought back against Evolution AND about 10 other heels. The creative booking for the Shield has them looking like super heroes, and it really fits them well. Between the overall talent of future Hall of Famers HHH and Orton, and the possible explosive futures of the Shield, this is going to be one superbly booked match. I wouldn't be surprised if this match picks up a gimmick like Tables, a Cage, or something before the Payback Special Event. We're going to see probably at least two high spots like Rollins off of the archway at Extreme Rules. This is easily the match I'm looking forward to at Payback.

I also think that I like the idea of Sheamus joining them. He needs a gimmick overhaul to be in Evolution, though. They're all about suits, limos, classy stuff. With him, it's more just gritty get the job done style.

Anyway, my prediction is Evolution gets the dirty win, we get to see Rollins flying at least once, we get to see Ambrose do some crazy shit at least once, and we get to see Reigns dominate, but in the end, we'll see Evolution standing over them victorious.

 

[Y 2 Jake]

With this rematch happening Evolution should've won at Extremem Rules. Oh well. I still think they should win this one.

Hopefully a stipulation gets added. A 6-man arena wide brawl involving this lot would be tons of fun.

 

[WarroBODFan]

Agree, however the ending happens, I can see it being a screwed over win for Evolution. I think involving Sheamus and turning him heel with the title is a great idea. I did see some rumours about a possible Hell in a Cell match, but I'm sure that would've been mentioned during the match challenge acceptance by HHH.

 

[tvcolosi]

Evolution has to slide over, Shield can't win the first 2 if the end game is a shove to them as Summerslam but...

If Dave can work through Money in the Bank I came up with a way to keep Bryan out of a 1 on 1, and proceeds all 3 top feud's... clearly no title match at Payback.

Battleground is the next PPV, I'd love some sort of War Games, we wont get it but that doesn't mean we can't have a good old fashioned 10 man brawl in the main event.

Evolution, Kane and Bray Wyatt (through in Harper if Dave can't)

VS

The Shield, John Cena and Daniel Bryan.

Put in the story that H and Steph wont let Bryan work and it interweaves him back in with Sheld and Evolution. With the numbers it protects Bryan with numbers for a few extra weeks.

 

[darkdays]

They better have Evo win and start kicking ass on The Shield soon. The Shield have looked too strong against them. They even beat them up 3 times in one show lastnight. Its like theyre The 3 Super Cenas.

 

[Wolf Pac]

If Sheamus is joining Evolution, I think Orton and Triple H should just turn on Batista and write him off television right now, and replace him with Sheamus in the match. Batista is obviously the weak link in Evolution, having taken the fall at ER and being submitted at WM, and it would help get Sheamus over in the group if the newest member were to get the pinfall for Evolution on Ambrose or Rollins.

 

[TheICChampion]

If Sheamus is joining Evolution, I think Orton and Triple H should just turn on Batista and write him off television right now, and replace him with Sheamus in the match. Batista is obviously the weak link in Evolution, having taken the fall at ER and being submitted at WM, and it would help get Sheamus over in the group if the newest member were to get the pinfall for Evolution on Ambrose or Rollins.

Well if that's the plan they need to pull the trigger by next week because Payback is just a few weeks away. I Believe in the Shield so I'm hoping they come away with the win, because what would a win for Evolution do? They're all established guys, even if Sheamus joins the group. If that were the case I'd've gone with Sheamus joining Evolution and THEN winning the US title, maybe with a little help from Evolution. Or what they could've done is book the 6-man, then have Batista "taken out" during the show and just as we think it's gonna be 3-on-2, Evolution announces Sheamus as their partner.

 

[tehblogger]

could go both ways - if they really are planning to stretch the program into Summerslam, then Evolution sort of have to win here, presumably in some BS cheatyface way (a new member? Sheamus?) That won't hurt the Shield, particularly not after winning clean at ER.

Then again, the Batista situation could well mean that they decide to finish the program here, put the Shield over again, and have Evolution break up. Either would be perfectly reasonable. Should be a hell of a match, just like at ER.

 

[Radical]

There would be nothing wrong with The Shield beating Evolution again.

Evolution is old and boring. The Shield are new and awesome. They should win again and show Evolution they are no good anymore.

Of course, by saying that... Evolution is probably going to win with some outside interference possibly a new member joining them as Batista leaves "injured" for a while.

 

[MidnightZero]

The thing is though that if Sheamus joins Evolution, it's not Evolution anymore. It's The Authority. Here is my prediction. Randy turns his back on Evolution and let's The Shield go over, taking out Batista in the process. Next night on Raw, Randy cuts a promo about how all Evolution ever was, was him and Batista taking a beating for HHH so that he could win the title. He can then go to MitB and feud with Bryan, who should be back by then. Meanwhile, a bitter HHH will do anything he can to try to screw over The Shield, first causing Reigns to lose MitB, and then him putting Reigns or the Shield in some kind of handicap match. That leads us to a 1-1 match between HHH and Reigns at Summerslam.

I said from the beginning that I didn't think Evolution would last long. It was great for nostalgia and putting The Shield over, and that's about it. Orton, HHH, and Batista are all at a point in their careers where they do not need a stable. I would even wager that it holds them back.

 

[laodaron]

There has to be a way to get Reigns and HHH in a feud to Summerslam, and probably Orton and Rollins as well. The only way to do that is to keep Evolution and The Shield fighting as stables through MitB and Battleground.

Creative screwed up with this feud happening now instead of at MitB and Battleground leading into Summerslam for the singles matches.

Honestly, I can't predict a winner, anymore. I want to think that Evolution wins here, with Batista getting kayfabe injured. Then, I want to imagine that MitB, the feud simmers down a little bit for the Shield to be in the MitB ladder matches. But then I'm at a loss as to whether they're going to have actual Battleground style gimmick matches at BG or not. Really, there are way too many variables to accurately pick this winner.

Honestly, I'm just looking forward to the Shield staying together as long as they can.

 

[OYDK]

I like the idea of Sheamus joining Evolution a lot actually, considering it actually WOULD be an evolution for Sheamus, and God does he need it. As for Sheamus having to "change his style" if he were to join Evolution... This would just add more heat to Sheamus and a deeper aspect to his character altogether. The brawling, rugged, take no prisoners fighting Irishmen all of the sudden becomes a cheating, suit-wearing panzy basically. Also it would make sense for a heel Sheamus to feud with Ambrose for the US title as this would be something that I think most if not all people would like to see.

I agree with having Sheamus brogue kick Ambrose at Payback in order to give Evolution the win, but after the match I would have all the members of Evolution with their hands up, celebrating, and than all of the sudden turning to Batista, giving him the thumbs down, and Shemaus broguekicking his head off. Than they go on to destroy Batista which would be a legit reason for Batista taking time off instead of just advertising that "Batista is taking time off to promote his new movie Guardians of the Galaxy!" Come out the next night and say that Batista just couldn't evolve and he's not the Animal that he used to be. Than Batista can come back as a face (probably...) and feud with a heel Sheamus POSSIBLY for the WWEWHC.

 

[tvcolosi]

So, odds on the 4th member of Evolution being ...


Roman Reigns? Swerve city. Just flashed in my head last week when HHH talked about singling him out and hoping they had something to salvage.

Late in the match, Evolution has him cornered with Rollins and Dean selling outside... they limp back in and do a stand off.. Reigns turns and its 4 on 2... just a thought

 

[HBsam31]

I agree with most. If the program is going to continue then Evolution needs to pick up the win. They have looked rather weak, and if The Shield wins it would seem they are just flat out better than Evolution. I like the new member idea, and Sheamus would seem to fit that position perfectly. In the end I think Evolution needs to pick up the win, and I think it will happen in a dirty way.

 

[The Eighties]

The faces winning the first match and then making the challenge for a rematch was an odd route to go, I'm also not a fan of the elimination stip, it kinda feels designed to facilitate the next over eager step in the Roman Reigns push, it'll be interesting to see if WWE subvert my expectations with how this is booked.

At any rate it will be the best match on the card and hopefully it will be the main event as opposed to the Bray/Cena match. Evolution pretty much have to win unless this is the end of the feud.

 

[Dagger Dias]

This is by far the match that I am the most interested in on the card. The best modern faction feuding with one of the best factions of all time, AGAIN? How can they ever top their last match? With a No Holds Barred Elimination stipulation, that's how. I predict without a shadow of a doubt that this will be the match of the night. With there not being an officially announced world title match, this has to go on last. It has had the most attention paid to it out of anything on the card and it also has the most potential to be something great. So let's talk winners of the match. Even though they won the last match, I'm going with The Shield winning again. They have everything to gain from continuing to emerge victorious in this feud. Evolution don't need the win. All three have already had a tremendous amount of success, the loss will not harm them while The Shield still need all the momentum they can get. The show closes with The Shield having defeated Evolution yet again. I hope the feud continues. I want to see more!

DAGGER'S PREDICTION
The Shield will defeat Evolution.

 

[thebarber]

With Batista leaving for a few months following Payback, I see Dean Ambrose turning on The Shield, costing them the match and him joining Evolution as the young hungry lion. With HHH leading the group, Orton the main event talent, Batista returning and Ambrose playing the original Orton role, I see this a perfect way for Evolution to get their win back, finally split the Shield without them losing clean and setting up a solid heel run for Ambrose, which is what he should have.

 

[thebarber]

So, odds on the 4th member of Evolution being ...


Roman Reigns? Swerve city. Just flashed in my head last week when HHH talked about singling him out and hoping they had something to salvage.

Late in the match, Evolution has him cornered with Rollins and Dean selling outside... they limp back in and do a stand off.. Reigns turns and its 4 on 2... just a thought

agree with your idea as I have already posted, but feel Ambrose is the one who will turn and join Evolution. Reigns is being earmarked for a solid FACE run, Ambrose is a natural cocky heel and would fit in well with HHH and Orton. Maybe Sheamus replaces Batista and whacko, theres your modern day Evolution 2.0

 

[Mustang Sally]

If the program is going to continue then Evolution needs to pick up the win.

Agreed. In fact, I was surprised Evolution didn't take the first match, given the usual formula these "young bucks vs. old crocks" programs follow. Had Trip's team won the first match, I figured we would be looking at their being totally decimated in the second encounter, ending the program.

These days, however, WWE seems to be stretching out the major feuds, which has both good and bad elements. The difference in the Shield-Evolution program, as opposed to, say, Cena vs. Wyatts is that the Evolution guys aren't meant to stay together as a team; they're here to push the Shield. Really, I'm surprised Evolution has stayed together this long and I swear one of the prime reasons for it is to give the fans cause to give a damn about Batista, whose lack of effectiveness has surely surprised and dismayed WWE.

Now, with Batista exercising his contractual privileges and leaving the company for heaven knows how long....and Triple H returning to what he really does in the company.....I can't see a scenario in which Evolution wins this.

 

[fouldsy91]

Honestly don't understand why people think The Shield will win this, I think the stipulation of the match being elimination and no holds barred makes it pretty obvious (saying this I'll probably be completely wrong now).

The way I see this match going is like this:
Dean Ambrose and Seth Rollins get eliminated 1st and 2nd, leaving it 3 on 1 Reigns v Batista, Orton and Triple H. Since Reigns is going to be the next big face apparently, he then eliminates Batista and Orton. However, I think it is too early for him to pin Triple H. Why you may ask? One of the Summerslam rumoured main event matches is Triple H v Roman Reigns, and you know Triple H always has a role at Summerslam, semi retired or not. I also can not see Orton, Batista and Triple H losing 3 pay per views in a row. If Roman Reigns beats Triple H after also pinning Orton and Batista, where is the story for the Summerslam match? There is no point for the face to beat the heel so early as Summerslam will be Reigns's first big singles victory, it will take away from the attraction if he beats him on Sunday. Have Triple H win by something screwy (whether it's Ambrose turning, Sheamus turning or even The Miz returning with Ric Flair, long shot I know) and he keeps denying Reigns a 1 on 1 match but continues to cost him matches (have Triple H screw him in the MITB match) until Reigns does something to finally get Triple H to agree to a 1 on 1 match, or have Vince or someone make it.

Prediction: Evolution wins with Triple H as sole survivor

 

[laodaron]

I believe that the order of elimination will go Ambrose, Batista, Rollins, Orton. Leaving HHH and Reigns to battle it out, and also pointing them even further in the direction of meeting one on one. OR, since Batista is scheduled out after the Payback Raw, I could see an injury angle on Batista eliminating him first.

 

[Mitch Henessey]

If the Reigns VS Triple H rumors are true, I can't imagine WWE giving away too much at Payback with an extended one on one confrontation. I say it'll come to down to Orton and Rollins one on one as the final two, with Orton hitting an RKO to pick up the win for Evolution. Honestly, if Evolution doesn't win, then the rematch is pointless.

 

[Mighty NorCal]

Honestly don't understand why people think The Shield will win this,

because entire point of the program is to put the Shield over, plus Batista is going away very soon, if not tonight.

I have immense expectations for this. I have loved everything about the build, everything about the first match, everything about the whole program.

Reigns to stand tall and look strong in the end.

 

[laodaron]

Once again, the more I think about it, the more I think that like Shape says, I think they keep HHH and Reigns separate. I think it's Reigns v. Batista in the end, HHH and Orton run back out, 3 on 1, Ambrose and Rollins run out, take out Batista and Orton, HHH sledgehammer to Reigns head, drag Batista's arm over Reigns, 1-2-3, Evolution wins.