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WWE Over the Limit 2012: John Cena VS John Laurinaitis

Which one of the outcomes is most likely?

  • Outcome 1

  • Outcome 2

  • Outcome 3

  • Outcome 4


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Now that were all looking forward to Cena v Johnny "Ace" Laurinaitis at Over the limit, my question is pretty mediocre! We've seen from 'the big reveal' of Johnny v Teddy long that the guy isnt in the best shape of his like, but that was what, two months ago (by the time we reach over the limit).

Do you guys think there will be a legit match? Excluding all the run ins an the fact that it wont go longer than ten minues.

Will we see a little flavour of the old Johhny Ace? Even for a few minutes?
I know it was only a few mudholes last night, but johnny held himself ok, i was buying it?

Do you think hes going to still have what it takes to go a round with Cena? I dont expect a win, atleast not a clean one, but will we see him wrestle? Lemme know!

Just incase you havent seen the guy in action here's some videos!

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(Taker vs Ace, with teddy and JR at ringside... Taker kicks his ass, but whatever)
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Now, I think we all can admit the booking of last week's Raw was a bit odd to be honest. In a matter of 2 hours everyone swapped storylines and everything that was once on the show was all driven into a new direction. All of sudden, we now have Smackdown guys competing for a number one contender's spot at the WWE title, Brock Lesnar now has an issue with Triple H, and Johnny Ace doesn't like Cena for some odd reason.

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I understand that they want Brock to feud with a certain exclusive amount of guys on the roster to get the most use out of him, hence the new Triple H angle and I understand that they needed to get Bryan away from Sheamus immediately because of his mixed reactions every week, but the one new angle that has most questioning it is the John Cena/Johnny Ace feud. Of course Bryan competing for the WWE Championship is great for him because he is still in a main event spot, but this post is about the mystery behind the newly booked Johnny Ace/John Cena feud.

It would obviously make more sense for CM Punk to still be feuding with Johnny Ace because of all the history the two have shared since last year's big shoot promo done by CM Punk. The Punk/Laurinaitis angle never really got the most mileage out of it that it could have had to benefit CM Punk as a top babyface. I understand the reasoning of why they want Cena to feud with Johnny Ace and Lord Tensai all of sudden because they want Cena to become more popular with the older crowd by taking the employee vs. boss route. The same route that was majorly successful for Stone Cold in the Attitude Era. I am not saying I hate the idea of this new angle because I don't. I think this could possibly work in favor of John Cena if done right. For years, Cena has been the top babyface of the company and he has indeed grown stale, but I certainly believe if he is not going to take time off as he said he would that this storyline could be exactly what Cena needs to get some more edge back in his character.

I think the question most people have behind this newly made storyline is why Johnny Ace all of a sudden is targeting John Cena rather than CM Punk? This could be explained properly by maybe breaking the wall a bit. What I would do is have someone interview Johnny Ace before Over the Limit and get an answer from Johnny Ace as to why he dislikes Cena so much and wants him gone from his show. Ace could come out and say that he hates Cena so much because none of his talent that he has signed have ever had the success of the talent that JR has signed. He has brought back big names like Brock Lesnar and still they are unable to rid the WWE of John Cena. He can say that he is sick and tired of everyone questioning his role as VP of Talent Relations and everyone saying that JR is better than him because he knew what talent was. Ace could say that he knows what talent is. He knows Brock Lesnar and Lord Tensai both have talent and that he brought them back, not JR. Johnny Ace could play up to the fact that even though I lost my potential new face of the company, Brock Lesnar, because of Triple H that does not mean that this show will still have Cena as the top star. Ace could add that Cena as the face of the company has made the WWE a shadow of its former self and that he needs to be removed immediately. Ace could say that he intends to permanently remove Cena from the spotlight at Over the Limit and he tends to do it with the help of Lord Tensai. Ace officially makes the match at Over the Limit a handicap match. Cena could then come out and defend JR and his all his work over the years of bringing in guys like himself, Triple H, The Rock, Stone Cold, etc. The show would end with Tensai cheap attacking Cena and the heels standing tall.

Now to make this work, Cena would need to lose at Over the Limit because once Ace is defeated, there would be no point for the feud to continue. The goal is to get as much heat as possible on Ace and Lord Tensai for as long as possible until someone like a Mr. McMahon returns to give Cena an edge over Johnny Ace at a future PPV. In the meantime, Cena could do some edgier actions to try to get over with the older crowd, but he can not defeat Ace until a more powerful authority figure returns to put Ace in his place and remove him from power by having Cena defeat him and/or Lord Tensai at a future PPV. This would hopefully lead to Edge becoming the new GM of both shows. What do you guys think? How would you make this new feud work to benefit Cena's character?
 
in OTL John Laurinitis is facing off against John Cena.

Now that we know If Laurinitis loses, he would be terminated and furthermore there won't be any any involvements and no one from the roster would be on the ringside along with him. So how would Big Johnny survive all these odds?

Johnny's reign of tyranny has only started and he is starting to show his ruthless side. I don't think this is a good time to terminate someone like him. WWE would find some ways to make the match look legit and make Johnny L win. They might do it in one of the following ways-

Outcome 1- Big Show might end up helping John Laurinitis in exchange of getting his job back. Resulting his heel turn.

Outcome 2- Big Johnny can get the referee down and capitalise on the distraction and achieve a cheap win by using objects.

Outcome 3- Brock Lesnar, the guy already quit WWE according to the storyline. So he has nothing to lose by getting involved in Johnny vs Johnny match. If anything, he will get some revenge on Cena for his loss at the Extreme rules.

Outcome 4- Big Johnny might live up to all the hypes he created and beat Cena somehow on his own. Pretty unlikely but possible in the WWE.

either way I can't see Cena winning this.
 
It's most likely outcome #1, but there is an equally plausible outcome that hasn't been listed. The only reason to add a stipulation that specificly mention wrestlers getting fired if they interfere is to have someone not officially on the roster interfere. It might not be so obvious had they played out the Big Show firing a few weeks ago, but doing it on the same night as adding that stipulation? Not hard to figure out that Show will be involved somehow.

However, Big Show interference doesn't have to be for Johnny Ace. The other possibility is that Big Show will still interfere...but on John CENA's behalf. Like outcome #1, Big Show can't be fired since he technically already is...BUT because Laurenaitis loses his job if he loses the match, Big Show could screw him on the hopes that the next GM (probably a reinstated Teddy Long) rehires him.
 
I think what will happen is Big Show gets into the ring, attempts to give the WMD to Johnny but he ducks and hits Cena instead. "Security" comes in and escorts Big Show out of the building and Johnny gets the cover for the win.

As much as I'd like Johnny to go back behind the scenes where he belongs, I just don't see it happening. Vince loves Johnny's character on TV. As both a normal fan and a smark, I really don't like Johnny's character, but we'll have to live with it.
 
Outcome 1- Big Show might end up helping John Laurinitis in exchange of getting his job back. Resulting his heel turn.

Outcome 2- Big Johnny can get the referee down and capitalise on the distraction and achieve a cheap win by using objects.

Outcome 3- Brock Lesnar, the guy already quit WWE according to the storyline. So he has nothing to lose by getting involved in Johnny vs Johnny match. If anything, he will get some revenge on Cena for his loss at the Extreme rules.

Outcome 4- Big Johnny might live up to all the hypes he created and beat Cena somehow on his own. Pretty unlikely but possible in the WWE.

either way I can't see Cena winning this.
well i could see Cena winning this if they (WWE) doesnt want their top star losing to a guy who has no business in beating the top star in the first place or if they want to end his TV Character (which i hope because while he's a good character, his voice just gives me a headache), BUT the only outcome i can agree with here is the first one. i dont see it being Lesnar as i think he will likely come back, likely by having Triple H mock him into it or something and i dont think they want to use him at every ppv. maybe another new or old talent can come in and help, but the only one that makes sense to me is Big Show hitting Cena on purpose. i cant see him coming out to help Cena as that doesnt make much sense to me. i mean why come out to hit Johnny? why not wait for the match to end, then go in the ring, give Johnny the WMD and leave, however, i makes most sense for him hitting Cena with it to help get his job back that he begged and cried for.
 
Yeah, Show helping Johnny Ace is the ONLY thing that makes sense here..maybe Johnny Ace already knew about the stipulation and he just did that for Show to be the one to help him and then re-hire him. I don't see how Johnny Ace losing this match could help Raw/Smackdown with the GM role. What would they do? Give it to Teddy Long? Let Trips to it? Doubt it..somehow, someway Cena goes down in this match.
 
I really hope this does not close. I have no problem with Cena's matches with Rock or Lesnar going on after the world titles, but this has no reason to main event. Also.... There is absolutely no way that there won't be some sort of controversial finish. Laurinaitis will not be getting wished well in his future endeavours anytime soon so he will somehow have to get the win. I would WANT for Cena to win but I just do not see it happening due to the firing stipulation. Johnny wins and this feud will continue. As much as I like Cena, I am just not interested in this match at all. I for the most part hate it when GM's or other authority figures are in matches. This spot could have gone to a midcard title, or Cena could even have faced Tensai instead. The only match on the card that I am less interested in is the divas match.

DAGGER'S PREDICTION
John Laurinaitis will defeat John Cena.
 
I think the result will be "other" - I keep changing it every five minutes or so, but the key stipulation is probably "pinfall or submission only," which probably means that they will manage to take the fight backstage, where Cena gets hit by some "masked stranger" (or even somebody hiding behind a curtain, so you don't see who it is). In any event, I see JL laying Cena out with some object; maybe he can use a sledgehammer, so they can tease Triple H's involvement.

It has been a while since they have done a Midnight Rider/Yellow Dog but with a heel under the mask. The main problem with the heel version is, invariably the heel is revealed, while the only time I can think of where a face was revealed was when Hogan was revealed as Mr. America, and that was only because Hogan left the company.

One question: will they retcon the stip to include "falls count anywhere"? If it's just "pinfall or submission only," the finish has to happen in the ring.
 
I been racking my brain on this match but this is how I see it happening.


Big Show will turn heel and help Johnny Ace to get his job back Ace will '' Think About It '' again and at the end of RAW Johnny Ace will be in the ring waiting for Show so Johnny can either rehire him or not and while waiting HHH's music hits and he walks down and congrats Ace for winning the match although Big Show did help him while the stipulation did state '' Any WWE Superstar '' but Show was ''fired '' last week.

And Trips will tell him that although Vince has done things in the past good or bad he did it for the fans and then HHH will look at Laurinaitis and say No one and I mean no one respects you , And John just like last week what you did to Big Show if you want to keep your job Tell the fans and the superstars in the back your sorry Now, Johnny will start and HHH will tell him it's not good enough get on your knees and beg me just like you did to Big Show and Then HHH will say look at you you look weak your not so tough now are you. Then HHH will walk up the ramp way and turn around and say John Your Fired.
 
Johnny Ace is my pick for this one especially after the whole added stipulation where the deck is completely stacked against John Laurinaitis.Big Show or Lesnar is going to help out Johnny Ace like many have said

I go into more detail on what I think is going to happen actually in this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDynCaOwL0E
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I'm not expecting a classic here but I think this match will be fun,hopefully it doesn't close the show but it probably will. I think lauranitas will sneak the win here because I don't think his reign as gm will end so soon
 
I hope Johnny brings out an enforcer to help him win the match who's "currently not under contract," thus avoiding the stipulation where anyone who interferes gets fired. Otherwise this will be an overbooked, drawn-out mess. Remember Bret Hart vs. Vince McMahon? Had that been cut down to a minute, it would have been a sweet WrestleMania moment. Instead we had a ten-minute brawl that looked like one dementia patient beating up a decrepit former steroid abuser for stealing his half-empty pill bottle.

I hate how they've rushed into a stipulation like this. Laurinaitis was riding high for barely more than a month before Triple H came back to knock the wind out of his sails. Why won't they just let him be a powerful heel authority figure? Wasn't Vince McMahon being in that role one of the cornerstones of the Attitude Era?
 
Before Eve came down with the letter from the board and Cena snatched it away and read it to the crowd, I was thinking:-

A re-run of Cena vs Kevin Federline clusterfuck from a few years back, where K-Fed had a small army beat the shit out of Cena and K-Fed did nowt but stand in the corner and waited for the beating to end and then just pick up the pin, and then get on the mic and say "I beat Cena all by myself with No help"

But then the letter came, but now its 1-1 im thinking Show will come out after somat has happened with the ref (maybe an inadvertent knockout) and WMD Larangitis's head off, but gets caught doing it in some fashion, DQ Cena & Ace wins.

Raw comes and Big Johnny will thank show, and gives him his job back as a little thankyou and show turns heel & becomes his bodyguard.
 
Everyone is expecting Big Show, which if you go by real world logic (I know) would be absolutely ******ed. If anything, Big Show would want Johnny to get fired because he knows the replacement would bring him right back into the company.
 
i keep hearing rumors that batista might return attack cena and help laurinaitis win maybe thats the "big announcement" he is talking about for the past few months, i saw a picture where he cut hes hair and he looks exactly like he used to look in wwe and plus hes last ppv before leaving was in 2010 over the limit 2 years later he returns and attacks cena
 
Laurinaitis is definitely winning this match no doubt about it. Obviously he's not going to win it clean so there will be outside Interference. I have two main guesses.

1. Big Show comes out Attacks Cena, and Helps Johnny win. Big show was technically fired therefore he can't be fired. He attacks Cena so he can have his job back. Thus turning heel in the process and with Mark Henry having surgery and been out for a while looks like Show will take over the "Big giant angry mean bad mister" Job.

2. Theirs been a few Tweets on Twitter people thinking Batista will return tonight at Over The Limit, I think it would be a good opportunity to bring Batista back if the WWE are planning to. After all it was John Cena who made Batista quit the WWE two years ago. So he probably has some revenge.
 
saw this finish coming since monday night and that's sad. hopefully if they do go for another John Cena vs. Laurinitius match, it ends with Cena finally blowing it off as it wasnt a great match.
 
yaaaawwwwwwnnnnnnnnn, honestly.........that guy with his kids in the front row wearing John Cena gear may just have been the ONLY person on this planet who didnt see that outcome. I mean seriously, Vince has honetly caught me off guard a couple of times over the last 4 months.........but I would have banked my retirement plan, anal virginity and even both of my testicles that Big Show got involved in the match
 
I am so glad I did not order this PPV If Vince thinks people were caught off guard on how the ending was going to happen It was writing on the wall in big red letters saying Big Show Will help out Johnny Ace. If anyone did not see this coming then there blind and dumber then a box of rocks.
 
You guys are whine babys. If Cena had won and Lauranitis was fired you would also be complaining. This was the best ending to move forward with the storyline. Your all idiots.
 
You guys are whine babys. If Cena had won and Lauranitis was fired you would also be complaining. This was the best ending to move forward with the storyline. Your all idiots.

Agreed, the ending was fine and entertaining. The WWE gave the IWC the match they wanted in Punk/Bryan and the IWC still bitches about the ending for the kids.
 
You guys are whine babys. If Cena had won and Lauranitis was fired you would also be complaining. This was the best ending to move forward with the storyline. Your all idiots.
i wouldnt have whined about Laurinaitis losing as his voice does give me a headache. my issue wasnt the match, it was just how predictable it was and how it was the main event. as for ending to move forward with the storyline, it better be the storyline of a rematch with Laurinaitis and Cena and not with another Show and Cena feud. if it's cena vs. laurinaitis at no way out (i think that's the next ppv), then they could use that as a blowoff to this feud.
 
Whats also funny is how people say that it was too predictable. At least the WWE made sense tonight! Big Show turning heel and helping Johnny was predictable yes, but it made a lot of sense. Another thing the majority of IWC whines about, is how their storyline's make no sense. Then when they do something that makes sense "Ohhh its so predictable" - that's because it makes sense lol. Think about it, Cena beating Lesnar was not predictable, yet most of the IWC whined about that also, but if Lesnar had of won it would have been a bad reaction anyway because everyone would have known it was going to happen.

I agree it probably didn't need to be the main event, I always think the WWE title match should be, unless there is a huge match like Cena vs. Lesnar.
 
The match was entertaining. I just feel it shouldn't have been the main event....overall though, the PPV was very good.
 

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