WWE Is Ruining Kevin Owens!

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So he's just come off the back of a big programme with Cena.

The top stars you would have towards the title picture (Rollins, Lesnar, Reigns, Orton, Seamus) have programmes going at the moment.

If he's not going to be midcard AT THE MOMENT then what do with Kevin Owens??

Given the WWE situation right now, you book Kevin Owens in a programme that would make sense where he is not in the midcard?
 
If this is true, it makes no sense. Is putting on three, 5-star matches and holding his own in the build towards a huge program with John Cena doing something wrong? I can't understand the logic behind this one bit, and if it is indeed true than WWE needs to get their heads out of their asses and realize that they need more talent the likes of Kevin Owens.
 
This theory that every young guy has to be headlining PPVs immediately is why WWE is in the sorry shape it's in. Kevin Owens just came off a trilogy of awesome matches in a MIDCARD feud with one of WWE's biggest stars. The midcard is EXACTLY where Kevin Owens should be. By this time next year, Owens will be ready to be moved into main event storylines, if he's up to it. WWE, especially in the last few years, has been ruining all their potential future big stars by hot-shotting them to the top of the card right away and long before they're ready. Kevin Owens is the only one where they're doing it the smart way so far.
 
What I'm not understanding here is the US title is a mid card title. He's still in the feud with Cena, and who said he still won't be going after him at Summerslam.

I was under the assumption that they would have the rubber match at SS, and then Owens would enter a feud with Cesaro. I know things change, but I don't think Owens will be dropping down the card.
 
Yeah, I'm not seeing that Owens is dropping down the card. Owens looks to be still in the midst of a feud with John Cena, if Monday is any indicator, though it's also possible that this feud will be ended for now and picked up again later on down the road. Owens' feud with Cena generated classic matches and has established Owens as a genuinely "popular" heel, his merchandise is said to be a big seller and if that hasn't elevated him in the eyes of Vince McMahon, I don't see how anything else can.

As has been pointed out, the United States Championship is a mid-card championship, it just so happens that it's a championship that's been elevated by John Cena over the course of the past 4 months. Given that Owens is a heel and that he's been after the US title, remaining in the mid-card as a whole is a perfectly logical idea. Logically, why would Owens go after Seth Rollins at this point? Both of them are heels, there's no one for fans to "cheer" for and Owens has list 2 matches in a row to Cena, albeit incredible matches.

All told, we've only seen Owens wrestle a handful of times when you get right down to it, so it's not unreasonable to want to see how he does against others who aren't as big a stars as John Cena. A feud with Cesaro is possible, so is a program with Rusev, possibly there's going to be a threeway feud between them for a while that can serve to elevate all three of them, hell, maybe it could be Owens who feuds with Sting upon his return. While it's unlikely, they could just have Ambrose & Reigns feud with Wyatt & Harper while Owens feuds against Sting.

If we start seeing Owens feuding for any length of time with R-Truth, Adam Rose or Fandango, then I'll start worrying about WWE "ruining" him.
 
Technically, the guy's been a mid-carder the whole time, after all the US Title is a mid-card championship is it not?
 
Everybody just needs to chill their tits about the whole Kevin Owens thing. You know who didn't come up from developmental and immediately headline? Every single person ever. I don't know exact dates, but it took Brock f'n Lesnar about a year to be a WWE Champion. Owens will get there soon enough. But you can't crowd the main event picture. SOMEBODY has to wrestle down the card. I'd rather see Owens down the card than not see Owens at all. He better be at Summerslam though. Imma be pissed if he's not.

Reality is there's guys ahead of him. Cena, Orton, Sheamus (because he's got the briefcase), Rollins (arguable), Brock, Taker, and you could even argue Reigns and Ambrose in there too. Every single one of these guys (on the WWE pecking order) is above Owens in terms of a "card spot." Stop thinking everybody has to be in the main event picture right away.
 
It seems they're damned if they do and damned if they don't. Kevin Owens gets moved up to the Main Event to feud with who exactly? Rollins? Okay lets say he does, he isn't going to win, and if he does win then suddenly people will say it kills Rollins credibility. Orton? He's tied up as is Sheamus. Reigns? Tied up as is Wyatt. I could go on but I assume you see my point.

Just because a guy isn't in the Main Event doesn't mean they're ruining him. He's been here for 4 months for god sake. Held his own against arguably the greatest ever putting on classic matches. The only way is up for him. It's just going to take time. Remember before when they propeled a guy towards the top on a rocket. He got shit all over (Roman Reigns if you haven't gathered).

Just relax and let things unfold before you all get upset Ziggler Rusev Cesaro etc. When its his time he will be up there just enjoy the ride.
 
I was gutted to read that article about Kevin Owens being dropped down the cards. When actually Kevin Owens tapped out at Battleground I thought its just an indication that the feud is going to continue. I never thought this would happen because my only assumption was Kevin Owens doesn't have a superstar to feud with right now.

If WWE drops his down the cards its just a disdain coz I thought It's going to be his greatest feud next to Steen vs Generico. It'll be just a pathetic decision by WWE is Kevin Owens is dropped down the card!!
 
I honestly don't see the big deal, there just isn't anywhere for owens to go if he wins the us title or if he keeps losing to Cena. Have him move through the upper mid card and establishing a pattern of consistent work seems like a great place to be. Maybe by the end of the year they can put the IC title on him and get that titles legitimacy rolling again.
 
those news coming from the wrestling websites are just assumption. my guess is john cena lost is title in following weeks due to Seth interference. Owens definitely take the belt from cena and fued with cesaro at summerslam. john move on to wwe title scene bcoz of summerslam. I don't think john win the championship.
 
An even bigger question - why does his position on the card matter?

Generally, I'm the first person to take a dump on WWE, but this is moronic. One single feud with John Cena, albeit very very good, is not enough to bring him up the card. Yes, it's impressive. Yes, it shows Owens has potential. Yes, it's great for him. But being immediately placed up the card? Let's chill for a bit.

As long as Owens is featured on WWE programming he's fine. As long as he's given freedom to do his thing - he's fine. It's super easy to watch WWE these days - so just do that.

Stop complaining about who's in the main event or who's in the low card. Complain when they're off TV when they shouldn't be, and when their ability to entertain is hindered by factors such as a crippling gimmick or let's say over-scripting his promos.

Owens has a bright future as long as he's healthy. Relax.
 
When you're putting on 5-star classics with John Cena, no.

Clearly not.



A lot of people don't seem to have all the info out there on this. A ton of backstage info has come out regarding some higher-ups not wanting Owens to succeed, while certain other ones see the potential in him.


Everyone take a wild guess who is who, there.




Its fucking ridiculous that the guy can have multiple MOTY and POTY canidates and that both he and Cena have worked their asses off to present this character to be one of the top 2 or 3 heels in the company only for it to be discarded....Its totally counter-intuitive to have a guy who has something special, the ability to be a huge deal, only to throw a damper on the fire.


Now it will be up to Owens to keep fighting, and keep proving people wrong. Hopefully it doesn't take as long for them to pull the trigger as it did on Punk and Daniel Bryan.
 
Clearly not.



A lot of people don't seem to have all the info out there on this. A ton of backstage info has come out regarding some higher-ups not wanting Owens to succeed, while certain other ones see the potential in him.


Everyone take a wild guess who is who, there.




Its fucking ridiculous that the guy can have multiple MOTY and POTY canidates and that both he and Cena have worked their asses off to present this character to be one of the top 2 or 3 heels in the company only for it to be discarded....Its totally counter-intuitive to have a guy who has something special, the ability to be a huge deal, only to throw a damper on the fire.


Now it will be up to Owens to keep fighting, and keep proving people wrong. Hopefully it doesn't take as long for them to pull the trigger as it did on Punk and Daniel Bryan.

It is ridiculous, but that's WWE for ya. It's not up to Owens; it's up to WWE.
 
This is great news for Kevin Owens. The way he prided himself and put over NXT in the beginning of his run, I thought he was just up to get the brand and himself more exposure. That way, WWE could rely on him to draw more for the NXT brand and keep their NXT viewers up if not subscriptions.

So to stay up on the main roster after such a short stint with WWE is huge for him. He will soon be a WWE veteran and that is a major accomplishment for anyone.
 
It seems they're damned if they do and damned if they don't.

That's always true with pro wrestling fans, isn't it? Seems like half the people are going to hate whatever WWE comes up with anyway, so the company just has to go with what they think works best.

As it is, when a performer has started his WWE career at the very top, as Kevin Owens has had the privilege of doing, what do they do to keep him there? On the one hand, it seems a feud with Cesaro would be a severe drop in opponent rep, even though the ring action might be amazing. Still, if the company wants to maintain KO's momentum, they need to keep him at main event level, meaning he goes after guys like Randy Orton.....or Seth Rollins. Honestly, I don't think the brass wants KO fighting for the world title yet. After all, he just got here.

Yet, unless management feels KO didn't acquit himself well in the trifecta against Cena, I can't imagine why they'd want to drop him to midcard status. If their plan was to have the NXT champion draw a series against the guy who runs the place, they surely had longer-term goals in mind, no?

I say his program with John Cena hasn't ended yet, as the rumor sheet quoted by the OP suggests.
 
I think people are blowing this out of proportion. Whenever somebody gets hotshotted to "main event" level within a few months of their debut, people complain that WWE doesn't take the time to build anybody up the long way. Kevin Owens has been on the main roster for what? Three/four months? In the one article on the main site, they said he was being dropped to "upper-midcard" status. Sure, John Cena may be main event status, but the US Championship is a midcard title despite how much Cena has elevated the PRESTIGE of it. With that being said, Owens has always been in the midcard.

Let's say Owens beat Cena for the US Championship at Battleground. Who was he going to feud with? Guys like Cesaro, Dolph Ziggler, Rusev, and everybody else he was associated with in the article aka all upper-midcard feuds. I have no doubt that Owens can put on great matches with anyone and feud with the best of them, but give it time. If it's meant to be, it's meant to be. If he feuds with a guy like Cesaro, it can still be entertaining. Let's not let our admiration for Owens blind us from the fact that there's nothing wrong with a slow rise to the top.
 
Reality is there's guys ahead of him. Cena, Orton, Sheamus (because he's got the briefcase), Rollins (arguable), Brock, Taker, and you could even argue Reigns and Ambrose in there too. Every single one of these guys (on the WWE pecking order) is above Owens in terms of a "card spot." Stop thinking everybody has to be in the main event picture right away.

This is not the problem, maybe you should actually read the report. I don't think people are upset that Owens isn't being hotshotted to the WWE title, moreso that the report states that WWE doesn't SEE Kevin Owens as a main event level competitor right now, which is ridiculous in its own right. It goes on to say that he's not on the same level as the likes of John Cena, Randy Orton, Seth Rollins, etc. Also says there is no plans to give him a match at Summerslam.

If this report is true, it basically shows that WWE is reneging on their "big" plans for Owens that we've been hearing about for the past few months. Which leaves me with the question, why? For what reason? Half the shit that's posted on the main site is BS so I'm hoping this is one of those times.
 
I still remember back when people said Damien Sandow would be fine after the backlash that happened when he failed to cash in MITB on Cena, it sort of reminds me of this stuff with Kevin Owens.
 
dont believe everything u read on the internet but i hope its true as he does not deserve the kind of push he has been getting
 
This hardly spells the end for KO. SummerSlam weekend is going to be BIG this year and he’s still going to be a part of what’s likely to be an amazing NXT special. When things settle immediately after SummerSlam, they’re going to need their full time roster to step up, at which time I expect he’ll get another chance to prove himself (as well as giving the Universe a chance to support him, if we choose). Personally, I hope to see them take Owens as far as he can go and I have faith they’ll do that if they smell money in it.

You have to admit though, Owens has a look made for radio and even if he winds up in the upper mid-card, every spot on the card needs guys who can carry it. What’s the worst that could happen? The second hour of Raw will only get better every week. Either way, fight Owens fight.

EDIT: In the time it took me to write out this garbage another "report" has hit the front page hinting that Owens may have a SummerSlam match after all. Didn't even have time to sharpen my pitchfork or start a #cancelWWE campaign. So basically, nobody knows anything for sure.
 
Technically, the guy's been a mid-carder the whole time, after all the US Title is a mid-card championship is it not?

Yes it is a mid card title and yes he is in the mid card right now. And is that such a bad thing. Look what happened the to last NXT champion to come up to the main roster, Seth Rollins.

He came up as a member of the Shield. Was booked perfectly, won the tag titles with Reigns, and spent over a year running through the locker room. When they broke up, he went on to become the biggest heel in the company, won the MITB, and cashed in at Wrestlemania.

Now I'm not saying Kevin Owens will have the same kind of run as Rollins did, because quite frankly the Shield were special. But Owens is special as well, and if you can hang with and beat the number one guy in the company in your debut feud, then that's not half bad.

They are promoting Lesnar/Taker big time for SS right now, and has the rest of the card even been decided yet? Right now he doesn't have a match, but we have 5 weeks to see what happens.

EDIT: And as I was typing this Cats Pajamas changed his post to report that now Owens might have a match. See things change on the fly around here.
 
Everybody just needs to chill their tits about the whole Kevin Owens thing. You know who didn't come up from developmental and immediately headline? Every single person ever. I don't know exact dates, but it took Brock f'n Lesnar about a year to be a WWE Champion. Owens will get there soon enough. But you can't crowd the main event picture. SOMEBODY has to wrestle down the card. I'd rather see Owens down the card than not see Owens at all. He better be at Summerslam though. Imma be pissed if he's not.

Reality is there's guys ahead of him. Cena, Orton, Sheamus (because he's got the briefcase), Rollins (arguable), Brock, Taker, and you could even argue Reigns and Ambrose in there too. Every single one of these guys (on the WWE pecking order) is above Owens in terms of a "card spot." Stop thinking everybody has to be in the main event picture right away.

I'm hoping they don't put Owens in a box as a heel. If anything, just have him be a tweener. Last thing we need is another Bray, heel who can be in big time matches but don't expect him to win them.
 

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