WrestleMania 24 Live Discussion

[BrooklynBuc]

Wrestlemania 24 made some history last night:

• The Undertaker became the 3rd wrestler to win three world titles in the main event at Wrestlemania, joining Hulk Hogan and Stone Cold Steve Austin. In terms of overall titles, Christian also won three titles at Wrestlemania, winning the tag team titles twice and the Hardcore title one.
• Randy Orton became only the 2nd heel to retain a World title, joining HHH.
• HHH has now lost 4 straight Wrestlemanias, losing to Benoit, Batista, Cena, and Orton.
• This is the first Wrestlemania that John Cena was pinned, plus the first Wrestlemania he did not walk out with a championship.
• The Undertaker is now 16-0 at Wrestlemania, with 14 pinfalls, 1 DQ win (Giant Gonzalez) and now 1 submission victory.
• This is Edge's first one-on-one loss at Wrestlemania. (At least he hasn't been pinned!)
• Money in the Bank has a pattern so far. CM Punk is the 2nd face to win it, and so far the pattern is heel, face, heel, face. Also, he is the first ECW star to win it, and the first to win after participating in the match before.
• Kane may have beaten Hulk Hogan's record for a Wrestlemania victory by beating Chavo Guerrero in less than 30 seconds to become ECW World Champion. The record is 21 seconds by Hogan over Yokozuna.
• Oddly enough, this is only the 2nd victory at Wrestlemania for Randy Orton, since Wrestlemania 20 when he pinned Foley in a handicap match.
• Only three titles were defended at Wrestlemania 24, all World titles.
• This is the first Wrestlemania that the ECW World Championship was defended.
• This is the 3rd straight Wrestlemania where the night ended with a wrestler tapping out in a World title match (HHH, Michaels, and Edge)
• Finlay has never won at Wrestlemania. (0-3)
• Ric Flair retires having won two Wrestlemania matches: the handicap match where Orton got his first win and a tag team match with Carlito against Gregory Helms and Chavo Guerrero. Flair has lost both one-on-one matches (Randy Savage and The Undertaker) and his lone Money in the Bank appearance.

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[Shocky]

Flair/HBK should have ended the show... nuff said.

Nope, no one is bigger then a title match at Mania. Plus, the match was good, but not even in the top half of the best of the night.

 

[Lil Wes]

That's BS, it was easily MOTN and probably MOTY contender.

 

[Shocky]

Please tell me you're being sarcastic. Flair was good, but he was spent within the first ten minutes of the match. That match ranked #5 on the night. The two title matches were much better.

Don't confuse the emotion after the match with the action in the ring. from bell to bell, minus the last ten seconds, that match was good, but not great.

 

[Lil Wes]

I'm not being sarcastic, the match was well done and outpreformed all but the MITB and WHC match which were very close but not better.

I see you looking down on it just because of who's in it, HBK.

But meh, your opinion, when it probably wins MOTY, I won't be surprised. HBK does that yearly.

 

[Shocky]

Actually, I like HBK and I liked the match a lot, but unlike most people, I don't believe everything that HBK touches turns to gold. The WHC was much better, MITB was better (and you know my opinion on those matches), the WWE title match was better.

Flair vs. Michaels was good, but not great. Flair couldn't go, and it showed. Put it this way, if that match happened at any other pay per view, easily match of the night, but htis is Wrestlemania, and the title matches came to play. Without HBK vs. Flair going in the middle of the card, I don't think it would have pushed the guys going on later to do as good.

 

[Lil Wes]

I still disagree. That WWE title match was just meh, not good by any means but not bad neither, and the WHC match didn't pick up and bored the crowd to tears for about the first 10 minutes, as for MITB, it's the best we've seen yet, the starpower had alot to do with that and I agree with your opinion on the taking away mid card matches but HBK/Flair was flawless, if it was anyone who proved they couldn't go it was HBK for about 5 minutes after he busted his ribs, which added more to the story. Which again was fantastic.

Either way, Mania or not Mania, that match is MOTN and still a MOTY contender in my opinion.