Worst PPV match finish of all time? (Summerslam Orton vs Cena)

[Nev]

Are you serious now?

That match was great.

Great not as in stellar, great as in the usual;normal. The only bad thing was the finish. Though, it is by FAR not the worst finish of all time. He won somewhat clean.

It's a hell of a lot better than a PPV ending by a hit from a steel chair only for the next PPV main event to be No-DQ to lengthen the feud. THAT, is what I call a crappy PPV finish.

And if you expected something amazing from the WWE if Orton were to retain, you obviously have forgotten that its 'forbidden' for a heel to get a clean win anymore.

 

[Slowdude]

I loved the entire match. The whole ending besides Lillian announcing the wrong thing, I found it great. Orton DQ'ed himself. Vinnie Mac said no, Orton walked away, Vinnie Mac said no. Orton used the ropes to get the pin, the ref said no. Cena with Orton in the STF, I honestly thought it was over. Then that fan alteration happened. Orton rolled out, Cena on the inside. Orton RKO's Cena twice and gets a clean victory... Well not really

I thought that was a great match, the crowd was into it as well

About the whole fan alteration, you could tell it was a work the moment Orton retained. The fact that Cena was about to win before it, then Orton going over after the fan was gone proved that was apart of the show. If it wasn't Cena would of applied the STF again and won.

 

[Paradox]

This really was a dumb way for them to do this match. It was really overbooked to the max. It really doesn't make any sense for them to have 4 restarts to a match. I'm kinda baffled as to what they were trying to do here. We know it was scripted now. So what the heck was wwe trying to do here? Bring Brett up to join legacy? Maybe, but I really don't see the point to it. Who knows what they are trying to do. I was really looking forward to this match, and am extremely disappointed in the way that it ended.

 

[Ambiguous Turd]

I will give WWE credit, as this was their best "worked fan/plant" to date, in trying to get fans to believe it was real. They didn't put it over on the commentary or anything, and didn't show them in the replay.

The only thing that really gave it away for sure was WWE.com focusing on it (before we had Brett DiBiase's identity confirmed on the newsboards).

 

[TM Punk]

If you guys honestly don't think this has all been a set up for a hell in a cell match, or a cage match... then I don't know why you watch wrestling.

Orton dq's himself - cage/cell is no dq
Orton walks away - can't do that in a cage
Outside interference - HELLO!

Doesn't the WWE have a PPV coming up in which the two main events will be in A HELL IN A CELL?

idk, it just seems kind of obvious to me. If a real fan had jumped into the ring there would be more than two security guards on him, and when that happens they rarely EVER make it into the ring, and on a PPV??? Come on. Is it hard to believe that they set this up so that it looked real? How hard is it to say when the fan comes in Micheal, JR don't say anything. Think about it. Please.

 

[Freddy4190]

I liked the match. I enjoy Cena vs Orton. They have their stale moments but as do anyone who's feuded as much as them. The finish was GREAT now that I look back on it. The crowd was so into it, the crowd at Hooters where I was watching the PPV at was into it, we just got confused when the "fan" ran in. I thought it was a cool end, I couldn't really hear Lillian over all the yelling in Hooters so I didn't really pick up on everything she said.

 

[Ambiguous Turd]

If you guys honestly don't think this has all been a set up for a hell in a cell match, or a cage match... then I don't know why you watch wrestling.

Orton dq's himself - cage/cell is no dq
Orton walks away - can't do that in a cage
Outside interference - HELLO!

Doesn't the WWE have a PPV coming up in which the two main events will be in A HELL IN A CELL?

It isn't a setup for a Cell/Cage match. It is a setup for a Submission Match at their next PPV, Breaking Point, which is a Submission-Only PPV.

Obviously, this is WWE's way of trying to get some wrestling fans who left for UFC back into the mix.

But the submissions all during the end between Cena getting Orton in the STF multiple times gave that setup away for the next show.

 

[2rowdy4u]

well i was there live and to be honset the crowd loved the way it all went dwn. i was siting in a section that was half cena half orton fans so we were going back nd forth. everytime we thought randy was done nd they had to restart everyone went nuts. the whole fan thing from what i read it was brett dibasie. we were all confuse on wheather it was a work or not and ortond and cena played it off good. best ending to a match ever

 

[midgensa]

Lol ... this is a hilarious post now knowing that the fan run-in was staged.
This match was interesting. I enjoyed it and thought for sure Cena was going to win after all of the restarts, so it was solid that he didn't.
The match itself was not all of that. But it was creative in that we have truly never seen anything like that.
It was definitely hut by the fact that Lillian fucked up a couple of times, but all in all, pretty decent.

 

[Ambiguous Turd]

idk, it just seems kind of obvious to me. If a real fan had jumped into the ring there would be more than two security guards on him, and when that happens they rarely EVER make it into the ring, and on a PPV??? Come on. Is it hard to believe that they set this up so that it looked real? How hard is it to say when the fan comes in Micheal, JR don't say anything. Think about it. Please.

BTW, just to address your Know-it-all comments about the "Fan", why is it not surprising that you would make comments along these lines only AFTER the fan's identity was released? Kind of like an "I told you so" tone to your post. Where were you 30 minutes ago when this was being discussed?

Also, as far as your comments regarding security guards, I didn't realize that security was supposed to be any more tight for PPV's then Raw's or Smackdown's. I thought a superstar's well-being and the preservation of a television product was just as important at any televised event. Learned something new tonight, apparently.

I've also seen many events when a fan hit the ring, and there have been either 1, 2 or no security guards in the ring, and the ref/wrestlers took care of the problem on their own, while security grabbed them on the outside.

A fan once hit the ring in the RVD vs Eddie Guerrero Ladder Match, and knocked Eddie Guerrero, who was climbing the ladder, actually off the ladder. Eddie decked the guy, and then the ref hit the ring and took him down. This was all during a PPV.

Remove your condescending "I told you so" tone from your posts, if you don't mind, in the future. Pretty snooty for a first post. As the saying goes, "Pay Your Dues".

 

[TM Punk]

When it was first being discussed I was reading all of the comments, and then I registered.

That ladder match was on Raw.

I wasn't trying to say "I told you so" I was just saying that IMO, the way it went down was kind of obvious. And if they are for whatever reason using this as a way to hype a submission match... then...

1) probably the dumbest way to promote a submission match ever.
2) if the poster of this thread really wants to see the worse finish in PPV history, watch a John Cena vs Randy Orton submission match.

 

[S prince]

So after the clusterfuck that was Cena/Orton is over, it left many of us confused. But then some confusion was cleared up that Bret DiBiase was the "fan" who ran in during the match.


My initial thoughts are that i feel Bret DiBiase will join the Legacy. He ran in to "buy" orton some time and snap the stfu. But I feel within a few weeks if this comes true, there will be growing tension within the group between Ted and Bret, perhaps some brotherly rivalry which will allow Ted to break out and become a face. Orton will go on and say Bret is just younger, more talented, etc etc. And if I'm off on that prediction, then perhaps Cody Rhodes will be the odd man out, but I don't really see him being able to survive on his own.


And finally to conclude the clusterfuck that is my thread, do you think(may be a complete longshot) that Bret and Ted could be the new brother rivalry similar to Bret and Owen Hart?? It could make for an exciting future rivalry.

 

[Falkner]

Personally, I loved the finish and I think they elevated Orton even more as a heel which I didn't think was possible. Using every dirty trick in the book only to be reversed every time? Good stuff right there.

At first, I thought the fan was the Miz, but reports are now stating it was Brett D, so who knows.

 

[farside98]

wwe shows how america thinks. When everyone is cheering for Orton and Cena is being booed because people love to jump ship and hate on others. WWE should change course and really stick it to people, make Cena the villain and give him the belt. I'm sick of Orton winning all his matches via DQ and now people cheer for him.

 

[Moose70nyc]

I personally thought this finish was awesome. I have been watching WWF/E since 96, and I was longing for the unpredictibility, and I got that tonight. For the original poster of this thread, you need some waking up to do.

The match itself was very well done. people who think the match was boring have to replay it. Orton comes off as a thinking wrestler, whom has great talent and ring knowledge. He isnt the flashiest guy on the roster who does insane spots, he gets the job done. He can mat wrestle, he can strike, he can grapple, and yes he can land the devastating blow to get the win. Overall I think hes the best man on the entire WWE roster outside to Chris Jericho.

Back to the match, I was not expecting all those restarts, and yea it seemed drawn out and repetitive, but so what. We could have gotten the usual Orton DQ we have seen multiple times this year, but didn't. Yea Lilian botched the announcement, but whatever. The fan run in spot was veryy well done, with alot of people on this thread wondering if this was a work. It even had me stumped for a few seconds until I seen the camera go back on him as they were escorting him back through the side of the entrance way. That was a give away but they hid it very well, not talking about it live, or showing it on replay.

Now we wonder where Brett DiBiase goes from here. Hes still 21 so hes still a raw talent. I dont think it gets revealed on Raw that hes was the culprit, because that ensues on him getting exposure, and we will EXPECT him on the raw roster sooner rather than later. I see this culminating into a submission match at Breaking Point, since Cena is gunna end up saying I had to ready to tap yada yada yada, to only challenge Orton to a match, and of course we as fans going to see Orton vs Cena headline a ppv forlike the 6th time in the last yr and a half. Thank you Vince for not developing new stars on the raw brand

 

[mral82]

I personally thought this finish was awesome. I have been watching WWF/E since 96, and I was longing for the unpredictibility, and I got that tonight. For the original poster of this thread, you need some waking up to do.

The match itself was very well done. people who think the match was boring have to replay it. Orton comes off as a thinking wrestler, whom has great talent and ring knowledge. He isnt the flashiest guy on the roster who does insane spots, he gets the job done. He can mat wrestle, he can strike, he can grapple, and yes he can land the devastating blow to get the win. Overall I think hes the best man on the entire WWE roster outside to Chris Jericho.

Back to the match, I was not expecting all those restarts, and yea it seemed drawn out and repetitive, but so what. We could have gotten the usual Orton DQ we have seen multiple times this year, but didn't. Yea Lilian botched the announcement, but whatever. The fan run in spot was veryy well done, with alot of people on this thread wondering if this was a work. It even had me stumped for a few seconds until I seen the camera go back on him as they were escorting him back through the side of the entrance way. That was a give away but they hid it very well, not talking about it live, or showing it on replay.

Now we wonder where Brett DiBiase goes from here. Hes still 21 so hes still a raw talent. I dont think it gets revealed on Raw that hes was the culprit, because that ensues on him getting exposure, and we will EXPECT him on the raw roster sooner rather than later. I see this culminating into a submission match at Breaking Point, since Cena is gunna end up saying I had to ready to tap yada yada yada, to only challenge Orton to a match, and of course we as fans going to see Orton vs Cena headline a ppv forlike the 6th time in the last yr and a half. Thank you Vince for not developing new stars on the raw brand

cena vs orton only wrestled once before in PPV M.E.'s in the last year and a half. Plus I liked the ended to match as it re-woke me back up as I was falling asleep as I was about to fall asleep. All the false finishes were awesome that's what kind of match WWE needed .

 

[The Rob]

I loved it.

All the stop/starts at the end made the finish extremely unpredictable and it had me on the edge of my sofa, screaming at the TV (which dosen't happy that often) at Randy, mostly calling him a bastard! It's far from the worst match finish of all time, infact I'll go as far to say it was one of the most exciting match finishes I have seen in a long time.

Great stuff.

 

[Cheney]

Was a pretty exciting match, wanted Orton to win and I'm glad he won cleanly on the 5th time lol. The fan part was pretty confusing though, they could have done that a little different like showing the fan and having Cole do his "hey look! thats thats Bret Dibiase!" Either way, sets up for a good Raw tonight

 

[Mantaur Rodeo Clown]

What a bunch of f'n marks. " The look on their faces when that fan ran in, they were confused." That was planned, a f'n ****** could tell that. all the false finishes and when Orton's about to tap, a fan runs in. C'mon girls, you all act like you know sooooo much about the business, but you fell for that simple spot. Guess what? John Tenta was really just a fan too. F'n mongoloids.

Im sorry. You're strutting around this forum with 4 FUCKING POSTS to your name and you think you an talk shit? Sure, you act like you know something when its already been confirmed it was planned. Seriously, why would you come on here and act like a complete twat to people discussing a good PPV? If your life sucks that much that the only way you can feel better is by getting up other people I pity you, you piece of crap.

I am going to say that this is a historic moment in the WWE. Never in the history of any WWE match has a title match been restarted due to DQ, count-out, interference & second referee's opinion due to cheating.

Are you really quite sure about that FalKon?

WWF Title: Vader vs. Shawn Michaels

Vader had been built up as unstoppable all year and had pinned Shawn the previous month in a 6 man tag. The opening/formula is exactly what you would expect: Shawn starts off hot by throwing all kinds of high risk stuff and punches at Vader and they work for a long while. However, soon Vader takes over after landing a power bomb on the floor. Granted that’s the same move that nearly killed Mick Foley, but we can let that slide I suppose. Shawn is just getting the hell beaten out of him here so he’s following the Bret Hart formula of start hot, look good getting beaten up, and then make your comeback. Shawn has some mini comebacks and Vader counters with a thumb to the eye. There’s something funny about that to me. Perfect drops the term go home, which means to end the match. That doesn’t happen at the moment of course though as that would just suck for a main event. Shawn skins the cat which to me is one of the most athletic moves you can do along with the nip up. He gets caught though and Vader just throws him which is a cool looking move. Perfect just hates Shawn to say the least. Shawn keeps trying to come back with punches and clotheslines but they just don’t work. In an odd spot, he slides down to try a sunset flip but Vader puts his foot on Shawn’s chest. Shouldn’t that be a pin since Shawn’s shoulders are down? He finally takes Vader down with a big clothesline. I think Shawn botches a move as he has Vader down to the elbow but he pulls up and just kind of lands next to Vader on his feet. I think he was trying to make it look like a big stomp but it just missed totally. I wonder why it wasn’t the elbow at that moment. They go to the floor and brawl again, but this time Vader picks up Shawn and drops him over the railing chest/ribs first. Vader slides into the ring for the count out win. Wait, what the fuck? Yes, Vader wins by count out that quick. The female fan at ringside is SCREAMING at Shawn to get up as apparently Becca has made her way to Cleveland. Cornette is ticked off and shouts into the mic that it’s not over yet and demands to keep going. Shawn is called a coward and agrees to keep going of course. Vader beats the hell out of Shawn but a powerbomb is countered by a bunch of punches. Shawn finally gets the elbow but Cornette throws in the racket. Shawn catches it and beats the hell out of Vader, which is merely Shawn returning the favor for Cornette beating on Shawn earlier in the match. Vader wins by DQ. And so ends Summerslam…again with Shawn leaving to fight another day. Apparently it doesn’t though as Cornette is talking (stop the presses!) again. Shawn of course accepts one more restart and they’re at it again. Shawn is killing him to start but gets caught. In between the ref goes down and there’s no one to count the pin. Also, Vader gets up from SCM. They set for the Vader Bomb but Shawn moves as the big man goes for the moonsault. He hits a moonsault from the top of his own onto Vader to get the pin. Perfect is ticked off and leaves the announce booth. He comes back all of three seconds later. Shawn poses us out to end the show.

Rating: A-. This was another very good match, but the triple ending just kind of left me scratching my head. It would have been fine had they just done a standard match by giving Vader a ton of time to beat on Shawn, ending with the moonsault to win in. Either way, this was a fine version of David vs. Goliath with Shawn looking like the giant killer at the end of it all to send the fans home happy.

I thought it wasnt a bad match by any stretch of the imagination. The ending wasnt as terrible as everyone is making it out to be, and the fact is, Orton won with an RKO at the end of the day, plain and simple.

If you really wanna talk about the worst match ending of all time, you're looking at the wrong company. Some WCW match finishes were seriously wack. It really makes you wonder what was going on with the booking at that time. Look at this clip and you'll see what I mean. So piper won it?

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[GameOver]

Trips vs Orton at Mania was pretty woefull LOL or the ECW title match at SummerSlam, what was the point of that?

The Orton vs Cena match was pretty substandard i'll agree with that. And Lilian Garcia didn't help the situation. Before her first announcement that the match be restarted she said winner and "new' world champ. I though OH ok they are gonna restart it and Cena will win and she fucked up. But thank god no Orton won out in the end.

The ending did play into the hands of the style of wrestler they are constantly pushing Orton as the guy that will take any and all shortcuts to win.

The fan jumping in I dunno, that seem to throw everyone off guard,
My thoughts is it was a new guy coming in or the Miz maybe or an outside thought it looked like Jeremy Pivin lol. He did say he would get revenge on Cena LOLz

The McMahon involvement does make sense U do recall we aren't they far removed from the fued between McMahon's and Orton which is still technically going on.

Anyway it was bizzare match if somewhat boring title match. Cena as usual was average and atleast half the crowd let him know it. Orton did his usual snake like wrestling slow and sudden attacks. nothing special. RAW dropped the ball on that match

Still enjoyed the PPV as a whole though.

 

[The Mark of Zur-En-Arrh]

they could have done that a little different like showing the fan and having Cole do his "hey look! thats thats Bret Dibiase!"

These days the 'E' don't like to acknowledge things that exist in the world of wrestling that doesn't fall under the umbrella of the WWE universe. Now i know Brett's a development talent and FCW is part of WWE, they still wouldn't say 'hey look it's that guy who signed up to train a few months back!'

They didn't acknowledge Lesnar, they let Hayman introduce him, so they're not likely to say anything like that about Brett Dibiase.

The McMahon involvement does make sense U do recall we aren't they far removed from the fued between McMahon's and Orton which is still technically going on.

Not really dude. The McMahons have had no involvement in this fued since Vince walked past Orton and made him wrestle in 3 Stages of Hell. Before that the McMahons haven't cropped up with Randy since Shane got his ankle broken by Legacy.

I haven't watched SSlam yet, i'll catch it on the Sky repeats, but from hearing what happened in the match, this couldn't have been the worst PPV match ending ever. Last months World Heavyweight Title match was FAR worse than that.

Punk and Hardy are having a heated match, Punk gets the upper-hand, can't put Hardy away, grabs the belt, walks off, Jeff grabs him, drags him back, hits him a few times, Ref separates them, TOF, Swanton, 1-2-3. What sort of fuckin' ending is that? Understand that there was no wrestling in between those things i just said, that was literally what happened. Punk went from kicking Hardy's ass and not getting the pin, to deciding he couldn't be bothered anymore, to jobbing out 30 seconds later.

A run-in by a someone no one's ever heard of on the other hand, is something we haven't had them do in a while.

It was great when Eric Angle swapped places with Kurt.

It sucked when they brought in Manu

Hopefully, when i see it later in the week, i'll feel that Brett's debut was a sucessful one.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

The worst PPV finish of all time? Not by a fucking long shot.

Now, while I think the 4 restarts was slight overkill, the restarts coupled with the "fan" running into the ring just made the match memorable to me. It was a pretty good match, I was entertained and it kept me interested from start to finish.

Now, if you were to post something like this regarding the 10 second ECW Championship match, I might be more inclined to agree. After all, it was utterly and completely pointless.

 

[olando76]

You know this finish was done before when Randy was going against Undertaker at Summerslam a couple of years ago, that finished was with Bob Orton doing the run in instead of Bret. Which goes to prove that like Hollywood the WWE has no new ideas. Of course somebody will disagree with that statement especially the finish of Punk and Hardy, but really how many times is Taker going to appear out of nowhere like he did last year with HBK on Raw. If the WWE can't think of anything new just have the two wrestlers have a damn good match without all the bait and switch techniques.

 

[Blade]

You're kidding me right? Worst PPV match finish of all time?
Obviously you weren't a WCW fan. Some of the stuff the WCW bookers pulled made Cena/Orton look like a masterpiece.

How about Sting vs Hogan? When Hogan pinned Sting for the 3 count, with the referee going at the perfect speed, only for Bret Hart to come down and somehow, he had the power to restart the match.

Or how about Goldberg vs Kevin Nash? With the stun gun thing?

WCW has had last man standing matches that ended in pinfall, over the top battle royales that ended in pinfall, and matches ending when a wrestler pins another wrestler who wasn't actually in the match.

The ending to Cena vs Orton may not have been great, but at least it did make some kinda sense.
If it was being booked by WCW, the "fan" who entered the ring probably would've won the WWE title or something.

Just don't call it the worst PPV ending of all time, it's not even top 10.

 

[jsive21]

i myself did not see the ppv but from what i read it doesnt sound like it was the worst ppv ending if you wanna talk about that then lets bring up the 2006 cyber sunday ppv a few years ago where is was all three champions in a triple threat match were the fans got to pick whos belt was on the line. you guys rember it was king booker vs john cena vs big show for the world title. now that had the worse ending when john cena almost won and then kevin federline ran out and attacked cena now that was one of the worse endings