Why the end to Raw was the worst of the Authority storyline

[The 1-2-3 Killam]

First off, I see this happen a lot with newer posters, so before it does again I just want to say, I hope you stick around. A lot of people come in, make a thread for the first time, or make one that gets popular for the first time, and get discouraged/frustrated with the criticism they receive for it. The idea of a forum is to discuss things. Sometimes that means you have to have the unpopular opinion, and come out swinging. It doesn't mean people hate you and you should leave forever.

How the hell did that build up Bryan he surprised a guy a hit 1 move on him. He didn't beat him down like Orton did a few weeks back. He effectively jumped a guy was distracted. If they wanted to build Bryan they should have at least had a Bryan vs Orton fight where Bryans resilience and heart showed where he rallies after Orton gets control of the fight and then drops him with the knee.

The thing is they were killing a ton of birds with a single stone. Big Show needed to remain in the picture. Shawn Michaels needed to be seen, but he can't knock anybody out yet because he's still got to make it Hell in a Cell to be the referee. Bryan isn't going to brawl with Orton while Triple H is in the ring; he'd just get his ass kicked. It was a contract signing, and the odds were very clearly against him with management in the ring. So Big Show caused a distraction, and Bryan leveled him with the knee. Simple enough. The fight where Bryan gets to display heart and fortitude and all that junk comes on Sunday.

I will respond to the critics and explain my reasoning
1. It was late and I was tired and missed Show hitting a few things but my point was you shouldn't be able to get in a truck and be a precision driver.

I feel like you're trying to make something out of nothing here. He's a 500-pound, 7-foot man, and the most absurd thing about this segment is that Big Show didn't knock into more stuff? You sure it wasn't the fact that he drove a semi-truck into the building in the first place?

2. I expect VKM to be financing Show but until it is proven it is a massive hole in the story and adds the element of confusion.

It's not a MASSIVE hole. When reading a mystery novel, they don't murder the victim and leave a note next to the body explaining how the whole thing went down. That would render the plot of the book completely pointless. It's been literally 24 hours since Big Show got in a truck. You think maybe we can wait another 6 days to find out how?

3.HHH is trying to be a ruthless dictator and Show getting the upper hand 3 Raws in a row just makes HHH look powerless and when Bryan was beat up 3 the Raw in a row everyone was like not this again, now its the heels losing out no gives a crap except people like me who are on the heels side.

You're not supposed to be on the heels side. Arguing from the perspective of the side they don't want you to be on is ridiculous. You're automatically looking at everything backwards. Bryan got his ass kicked for the better part of two months. I think the problem here is you have no patience. You need everything to happen at once. You need all the answers, and you need stories to work themselves out immediately. If the heel takes too many losses, suddenly they just don't matter in your eyes.

Never mind that Triple H is still legitimately the COO of the company. Never mind that he could, in reality and in story, do whatever the hell he wanted. Triple H has power in this angle, because he has power IRL and everyone knows it. THE WHOLE STORY WITH TRIPLE H IS THAT BIG SHOW IS FINDING WAYS TO SPITE HIM, AND HE HASN"T BEEN ABLE TO STOP HIM. That needs to happen more than once, more than twice, or it's just...oh look, Big show did something that one time. Not a very compelling story, is it?

4. Orton didn't even land a punch on Bryan which makes him look weak and because of the surprise makes its seem like less of an accomplishment for Bryan than if he had beat him in a fair fight

Why would you have a fair fight six days before a fair fight? Seriously, learn how to wait for things.

5-10. Would have all been elements of a brawl, The Shield come out to beat down Bryan with Orton on HHH's orders, maybe Rollins takes a superkick after threatening Michaels, the babyfaces in the back and Show save Bryan, which leads to someone going through the table and it would have been a more epic and finish if Bryan, Show, Rhodes brothers and Uso's are in the ring YES chanting while HHH, Steph, Orton and Shield are making their way up the ramp.

I agree with you. That would have been a more epic way to end the show. Not everything must end in utter chaos though. This PPV doesn't really matter in the grand scheme. They'll crown a new WWE CHampion, and that's huge. But all roads in this story lead to Survivor Series. There's plenty of time for chaos and giant brawls. If it happens now, before a PPV that doesn't really matter, it's going to mean a hell of a lot less in a month, when you'll be saying "oh not this again, they've brawled so much! Just keep it simple!"

Im not saying the move isn't impressive but we have seen the knee take people out to help him win. I thought what we needed to see was Bryan win in a clean brawl with Orton. When they did the face-to-face before battleground with no help Orton beat down Bryan and put him through an announce table. I think Bryan would have benefited from something like that not just a surprise move

Daniel Bryan has already defeated Randy Orton cleanly, in a fair fight, on about half a dozen encounters in the past three months. If he doesn't look like a strong compelling babyface challenger, that's on your short term memory, not the WWE's long-term strategy.

 

[The Dragon Saga]

1. The truck was driven perfectly and did not crash into anything

He knocked over some garbage cans, maybe he has experience driving truck how the hell do you know?

2. Big Show is poor yet he can get his hands on plane tickets and a truck

It's obvious he has somebody helping him. How else does he manage to come onto WWE screen via their satellite feed without much issue?

3. HHH is looking very powerful isn't, 3 episodes in a row where he is left in the ring annoyed or asleep

Considering he went five standing tall it's not like that's unreasonable.

4. Randy Orton got no offense in

That's because Show created the distraction with the truck, Randy momentarily forgot about Bryan and was then on the receiving end of the Busiaku Kick. This is like explaining life.

5. No appearance from the Shield

What are they going to do? Lift the truck out of the arena while attacking Bryan and dealing with Show?

6. No appearance from any of the faces

Why would they appear? It was about to become a one on one confrontation and then when Show showed up he'd it covered.

7. Big Show was not physically involved

Because he was creating the distraction.

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. No one went through the table the contract was signed on

Now your being stupid, although, this thread is a prime example of stupid in its rawest form, which makes you come across more stupid than stupid. ******ed could be a perfect word here and not in the derogatory use, but the medical one.

9. No brawl and just 1 move was hit. I was watching waiting for riot and that was it

I cry for you.

10. HBK did nothing

What do you want him to do, Superkick Justin Roberts at ringside for some strange reason? Maybe Roberts said he doesn't watch his show on The Outdoor Channel, that's enough for a Superkick!

Basically this thread is unneeded, your bitching about nothing, show was fine, ending was fine, if you want to over-analyze every aspect of every segment you have too much time on your hands, go outside and do something instead of attempting to analyze a scripted angle. Good lad.

 

[Slash-LN]

It was dull when a part of the show. The whole RAW was boring so you expect the Main Event or segment to have something awesome in it and Big Show driving the truck in didn't hit like it should have. And it was so random and unnecessary he drove in a huge truck only to park it, open the door, tell Orton to turn around and then shout yes. Why was the truck at all necessary he could have reappeared on the Titantron and accomplished the same thing. Also to counter what I predict will be your rebuttal, Big Show does not need a truck to enter the arena he's done it these past few weeks willy nilly and he's big and powerful enough that if security or anyone gave him any trouble he could knock them all out it just didn't make much logical sense nor was it necessary to the story and it was an ending to a dull raw that wasn't as powerful as it should have been.

He could have reappeared on the tron and people would have bitched about the fact that he had already appeared on the tron once in the evening. They would cry lazy booking and say that they should have had him do something else.

Yeah he's been able to walk into the arena two weeks prior once backstage somehow also with his music being played after being fired and once through the crowd with a ticket. If they went that way again people would again bitch. So they did something different.

It's really a no win situation because no matter what they do people are going to complain.
And that's not a shot at you because I do my share of complaining about the companies I watch too. I doubt there's anyone on this forum who doesn't.

I'm not even arguing that it was an exciting finish. I just don't think it's as bad as it's being made out to be.

 

[TWJC: The Beginning]

I will respond to the critics and explain my reasoning
1. It was late and I was tired and missed Show hitting a few things but my point was you shouldn't be able to get in a truck and be a precision driver.
2. I expect VKM to be financing Show but until it is proven it is a massive hole in the story and adds the element of confusion.
3.HHH is trying to be a ruthless dictator and Show getting the upper hand 3 Raws in a row just makes HHH look powerless and when Bryan was beat up 3 the Raw in a row everyone was like not this again, now its the heels losing out no gives a crap except people like me who are on the heels side.
4. Orton didn't even land a punch on Bryan which makes him look weak and because of the surprise makes its seem like less of an accomplishment for Bryan than if he had beat him in a fair fight
5-10. Would have all been elements of a brawl, The Shield come out to beat down Bryan with Orton on HHH's orders, maybe Rollins takes a superkick after threatening Michaels, the babyfaces in the back and Show save Bryan, which leads to someone going through the table and it would have been a more epic and finish if Bryan, Show, Rhodes brothers and Uso's are in the ring YES chanting while HHH, Steph, Orton and Shield are making their way up the ramp.

1. Have you seen Over the Top? Kids can drive those things. Also, Show ACTUALLY did just hop in and drive. Is his character dumb or something? Lastly, remember that his first PPV he was in a sumo monster truck match. I'm sure he (kayfabe) can handle a semi.

2. It's not a massive black hole. He's friends with millionaires.

3. It doesn't make HHH look powerless, it motivates his character to be more ruthless. Also, HHH is a heel. That's what happens to heels.

4. Orton got what was coming to him. He looked good in a win earlier and also....he's a heel. This is what happens to heels. He didn't "look weak", he looked like a heel.

5. So what, your fantasy booking idea didn't happen. Tough shit. The way it went down they went off the air with DB YESing on top of a semi. That's a good go-home ending. Would your fantasy booking have even fit into the time they had left? Also, if you get a big, satisfying, chaotic brawl at the end, why order the PPV? This is a tease. Pro wrestling is infinite, no ending. So you always have to have a reason to tune in again.

 

[Zardoz]

I have to agree with you about the bad ending to the go home show of HIAC ppv. But you didn't include the biggest point \ let down w.e you wanna call it, how bad Randy Orton and Daniel Brayn looked the entire segment. the contract signing was supposed to be between the participants ONLY wich is Daniel Bryan , Randy Orton , and HBK ! but all the focused went to HHH and he's promo wich made Daniel look like a complete joke. i felt like Triple H stole the thunder off of this segment. Daniel didn't even had the chance to come up with a comeback. and Randy just stood there like a tool(wich isn't he's fault i might add). And to end the segment with BigShow comeing out with a SEMI truck only for him to chant "YES" didn't made any sense.

just my 2 cents.... i feel like the whole autority storyline had lots of potential but IMO they blew it.