Why the end to Raw was the worst of the Authority storyline

[ASKane]

I'll start with the positives, the Truck was a very creative addition and it was unexpected and exciting. Now the Negative
1. The truck was driven perfectly and did not crash into anything
2. Big Show is poor yet he can get his hands on plane tickets and a truck
3. HHH is looking very powerful isn't, 3 episodes in a row where he is left in the ring annoyed or asleep
4. Randy Orton got no offense in
5. No appearance from the Shield
6. No appearance from any of the faces
7. Big Show was not physically involved
8. No one went through the table the contract was signed on
9. No brawl and just 1 move was hit. I was watching waiting for riot and that was it
10. HBK did nothing

 

[The 1-2-3 Killam]

1. The truck was driven perfectly and did not crash into anything.

Oh no. Call the police.

2. Big Show is poor yet he can get his hands on plane tickets and a truck

Maybe he stole the truck. Maybe they were a gift from his "friends" on the inside. The same people who got him on the Titantron to open the show? Maybe they'll address that in the future, and you need to chill out for a bit and give it some time.

3. HHH is looking very powerful isn't, 3 episodes in a row where he is left in the ring annoyed or asleep.

After a couple months of him dominating Raw with an iron fist - and hell, we all know he pulls the strings backstage for reals - Daniel Bryan has finally gotten some fantastic momentum. Big Show got his shots in two weeks ago, and last week to put the Rhodes boys over. So yes, Triple H has been taken down a few pegs. So now you have HOPE that Bryan can win on Sunday.

4. Randy Orton got no offense in.

He won a lengthy match against Dolph Ziggler earlier in the night.

5. No appearance from the Shield.

The Shield had also wrestled earlier in the night, and the angle with the Rhodes has now separated itself from the pack. They have their own junk to worry about.

6. No appearance from any of the faces.

That's because it was unnecessary to get anybody else involved. Bryan knocked out Orton on his own. Big Show was enough of a distraction. That's all they needed. Keep It Simple Stupid.

7. Big Show was not physically involved

He's been nothing but physically involved for weeks on end. It's OK to have ONE SINGLE MOMENT where he's not knocking somebody out.

8. No one went through the table the contract was signed on

Oh no. Another over-used cliche that didn't happen. Still got the police on the line?

9. No brawl and just 1 move was hit. I was watching waiting for riot and that was it

Can we not have a riot, or mass chaos, just once? Especially since this night was the go-home show. It was all about Daniel Bryan getting a last minute bump over Randy Orton. Keep. It. Simple.

10. HBK did nothing

He's supposed to be an unbiased referee. What do you want him to do? Kick Triple H in the face? HBK getting involved is a big payoff they will undoubtedly lead up to. And the appropriate time to do so is not BEFORE the pay-per-view. It might be DURING the match. It might be on Raw the next night. But it definitely shouldn't be as they're trying to put the final touches on a big title match 6 days before the PPV. It wouldn't make any sense.

Chill out.

 

[George Steele's Barber]

I enjoyed the end. I was very down on the idea of another contract signing but everyone played their roles well. I don't get the significance of Big Show driving the truck but I missed the first hour. HBK just makes for compelling television. The "friendship" story with HHH is kind of headscratching but logic be damned. But in the end the tension HBK created with HHH was terrific.

I will say that maybe it's time for HHH to hire a private detective to keep tabs on Big Show. Shouldn't be too hard.

 

[Jstrike]

I'll start with the positives, the Truck was a very creative addition and it was unexpected and exciting. Now the Negative
1. The truck was driven perfectly and did not crash into anything
2. Big Show is poor yet he can get his hands on plane tickets and a truck
3. HHH is looking very powerful isn't, 3 episodes in a row where he is left in the ring annoyed or asleep
4. Randy Orton got no offense in
5. No appearance from the Shield
6. No appearance from any of the faces
7. Big Show was not physically involved
8. No one went through the table the contract was signed on
9. No brawl and just 1 move was hit. I was watching waiting for riot and that was it
10. HBK did nothing

1. Why the heck was my post trashed and this wasn,t? 1st off big show crashed into trash cans!

2. Big show hi jacked the truck, as for the plane ticket's don't over think.

3. thats the whole point, is to let hhh look dominate and then make hhh look like a idiot.

4. this probably means randy will get over at hiac.

5. This isn't about the shield, never was the shield have their own feud.

6. Uhm Big Show is a face lol. like i said this isn't about bryan getting back up anymore, this is about the wwe championship in a cell match where no one will be able to interfere.

7. Big show doesn't have to be involved he's not in the match.

8. So 1st wwe gets slammed for doing the same thing, but when they don't do the average thing we cry about it? its not a table match, its a cell match we don't have to hype the table match.

9. this was so daniel bryan could leave happy, and got the crowd hype instead of ending it with the usual brawl.

10. once again, if shawn would've interfere that would show shawn is gonna get involved at hiac why ruin the whole trust shawn thing before the night happens,

 

[James]

This has to be your first thread ever. I found the ending to be good and Show's promo. Your probably is that you can't connect the dot and realize that it made sense. For once they did something to put DB over more so than Orton.

 

[Spidey Revivey]

1. The truck was driven perfectly and did not crash into anything

And why should it? What point would it have made if it did?

2. Big Show is poor yet he can get his hands on plane tickets and a truck

I have my qualms about the broke angle too, but there are plenty of ways for a person to get their hands on tickets and a truck without paying for them right then and there.

3. HHH is looking very powerful isn't, 3 episodes in a row where he is left in the ring annoyed or asleep

Why is this a bad thing?

4. Randy Orton got no offense in

Probably because he was shit tired from his bout with Ziggler.

5. No appearance from the Shield

Who are running their own program with The Rhodes now

6. No appearance from any of the faces

So? This isn't the age where faces come to one another's aid frequently. No one helped Punk when Axel held him down and Heyman beat him with a kendo stick, did they?

7. Big Show was not physically involved

I see that as a positive.

8. No one went through the table the contract was signed on

This I am thankful for. I'm sick of contract signings ending this way. It's horribly overused.

9. No brawl and just 1 move was hit. I was watching waiting for riot and that was it

Why?

10. HBK did nothing

I would like to know what you thought the special referee that said he'd "call it down the line" should have done.

 

[Kris Benwa]

I didn't like the ending either but not for the reasons listed in the OP. Idk why it just seemed like watching the dull show I was expecting a huge ending and Big Show driving in the truck seemed random, unnecessary, and not big enough. Also as far as your first point, Big show was hitting chairs and a few other things I saw he may have bumped a table as well lol.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

1. The truck was driven perfectly and did not crash into anything.

Well, it did crash into some trash cans backstage. What? Were you hoping to see the truck ram into the Titantron and bring it crashing down onto the crowd or something?

2. Big Show is poor yet he can get his hands on plane tickets and a truck

How do you know that a certain someone with the initials VKM isn't providing financial means to Big Show? The answer is that you don't, because Show's sudden change in behavior towards The Authority has yet to be addressed and there's a reason for that.

3. HHH is looking very powerful isn't, 3 episodes in a row where he is left in the ring annoyed or asleep

You mean as opposed to the past few months when everyone from net fans to dirtsheet writers have been pissing & moaning about Triple H running Raw with an iron fist? You mean where he hasn't "punished" wrestlers by forcing them into matches & situations they have no chance of winning just to send a message? You mean after repeatedly screwing Daniel Bryan out of the WWE Championship?

4. Randy Orton got no offense in

So what? I guess his victory over Dolph Ziggler earlier in the night isn't supposed to count huh? Or the fact that he & The Shield spent several weeks beating Bryan unconscious? Or Orton jumping Bryan from behind with Bryan in a mad dash to make sure his fiancé is alright?

5. No appearance from the Shield

The Shield have their own problems right now, such as getting back their tag titles and fending off other challengers. That's where their focus is, just as it should be. They can't babysit Orton and keep his ass out of trouble night after night.

6. No appearance from any of the faces

No reason there should have been. They don't have jack to do with the WWE Championship match and Daniel Bryan wasn't getting the crap beaten out of him by half a dozen guys.

7. Big Show was not physically involved

Again, so what? For the past few months, hardly a week has gone by in which he hasn't beaten the crap out of someone or laid them out with the KO punch.

8. No one went through the table the contract was signed on

No problem in my eyes. I'm long since tired of seeing the same old routine when it comes to contract signings, and I think it's fair to say that I'm hardly the only one.

9. No brawl and just 1 move was hit. I was watching waiting for riot and that was it

See answer above.

10. HBK did nothing

He's wasn't supposed to do anything. He wasn't supposed to be the center of attention. He wasn't supposed to be the one that this angle is all about. He's a friggin' referee. He's supposed to be impartial. Whether he stays that way or not during the actual match is part of the allure they're counting on to help sell the match.

If you didn't like it, hey, more power to you. I've got no problem with the contract signings avoiding the tired old formula and clichés of clusterfuck brawls or that half the locker room didn't empty or that people weren't involved who had no logical business being involved.

 

[ASKane]

I will respond to the critics and explain my reasoning
1. It was late and I was tired and missed Show hitting a few things but my point was you shouldn't be able to get in a truck and be a precision driver.
2. I expect VKM to be financing Show but until it is proven it is a massive hole in the story and adds the element of confusion.
3.HHH is trying to be a ruthless dictator and Show getting the upper hand 3 Raws in a row just makes HHH look powerless and when Bryan was beat up 3 the Raw in a row everyone was like not this again, now its the heels losing out no gives a crap except people like me who are on the heels side.
4. Orton didn't even land a punch on Bryan which makes him look weak and because of the surprise makes its seem like less of an accomplishment for Bryan than if he had beat him in a fair fight
5-10. Would have all been elements of a brawl, The Shield come out to beat down Bryan with Orton on HHH's orders, maybe Rollins takes a superkick after threatening Michaels, the babyfaces in the back and Show save Bryan, which leads to someone going through the table and it would have been a more epic and finish if Bryan, Show, Rhodes brothers and Uso's are in the ring YES chanting while HHH, Steph, Orton and Shield are making their way up the ramp.

 

[Jstrike]

5-10. Would have all been elements of a brawl, The Shield come out to beat down Bryan with Orton on HHH's orders, maybe Rollins takes a superkick after threatening Michaels, the babyfaces in the back and Show save Bryan, which leads to someone going through the table and it would have been a more epic and finish if Bryan, Show, Rhodes brothers and Uso's are in the ring YES chanting while HHH, Steph, Orton and Shield are making their way up the ramp.

i understand what you are saying, but this isn't about building up shield, or uso's or rhode's family or even hhh, this was to build up daniel bryan.
how does it look to have the so called face of the company need the uso's for help? lol! uso's couldn't even win their match how can they beat shield and hhh and orton? as far as rhode's family their good i would have no problem with them helping, but they got their own storyline, just like bryan has his, why go out and help bryan everytime? if someone is the face of the company, then there should be no backup, backup on a go home show is a terrible idea, how will this build up having a new wwe champion? how will this build up the cell? there's no interference in the match so why interfere in the go home show?

 

[ASKane]

How the hell did that build up Bryan he surprised a guy a hit 1 move on him. He didn't beat him down like Orton did a few weeks back. He effectively jumped a guy was distracted. If they wanted to build Bryan they should have atleast had a Bryan vs Orton fight where Bryans resilience and heart showed where he rallies after Orton gets control of the fight and then drops him with the knee.

 

[Jstrike]

How the hell did that build up Bryan he surprised a guy a hit 1 move on him. He didn't beat him down like Orton did a few weeks back. He effectively jumped a guy was distracted. If they wanted to build Bryan they should have atleast had a Bryan vs Orton fight where Bryans resilience and heart showed where he rallies after Orton gets control of the fight and then drops him with the knee.

it built up his knee move that's for sure, one move pretty much knocked out orton, so that built up his move which built him up, big show has been knocking people out with just 1 punch, this makes him look strong, so why wouldn't it make daniel look good for that overrated move that i don't even get but none the less the iwc love's it knee move.

 

[ASKane]

Im not saying the move isn't impressive but we have seen the knee take people out to help him win. I thought what we needed to see was Bryan win in a clean brawl with Orton. When they did the face-to-face before battleground with no help Orton beat down Bryan and put him through an announce table. I think Bryan would have benefited from something like that not just a surprise move

 

[justinept]

2. I expect VKM to be financing Show but until it is proven it is a massive hole in the story and adds the element of confusion.

This is one of the worst criticisms of any form of story telling that I've ever read in my life. You have an idea of where they might be going with it, but you're confused because they didn't tell you where it was going before they did it. This is like watching a suspense movie, and being upset because "I knew someone was behind the killing, but they didn't tell me until the end who it was. This was a massive hole that led to an element of confusion."

3.HHH is trying to be a ruthless dictator and Show getting the upper hand 3 Raws in a row just makes HHH look powerless and when Bryan was beat up 3 the Raw in a row everyone was like not this again, now its the heels losing out no gives a crap except people like me who are on the heels side.

Big Show getting the upper hand the last few weeks is supposed to make Triple H look like he's losing his control. Someone is clearly aiding The Big Show in the matter, and that person is most likely Vince McMahon. Don't you think that Vince undermining Triple H's authority adds an element to this story? Consider that a few weeks ago, Triple H had all the power, no one could overrule him, and he was walking around with impunity as he destroyed all the faces. The all-powerful villain doesn't make for great entertainment. There needs to be a trump card in the deck, someone to give the fans hope that the "bad guy" won't win. Vince McMahon is marketing himself as that figure in this feud.

4. Orton didn't even land a punch on Bryan which makes him look weak and because of the surprise makes its seem like less of an accomplishment for Bryan than if he had beat him in a fair fight
chanting while HHH, Steph, Orton and Shield are making their way up the ramp.

Faces rarely - if ever - leave the heel lying after a brawl. If the face gets the upperhand in a brawl, the heel typically takes a powder. As such, if a face takes out a heel, it's almost always with one, big move (ie. the running knee, Big Show's knockout, HBKs super kick). This is how wrestling has been booked forever. Why are you suddenly complaining about it?

 

[Spidey Revivey]

I will respond to the critics and explain my reasoning
1. It was late and I was tired and missed Show hitting a few things but my point was you shouldn't be able to get in a truck and be a precision driver.

Why not? Wrestlers make lousy drivers?

2. I expect VKM to be financing Show but until it is proven it is a massive hole in the story and adds the element of confusion.

I think you're confusing confusion with mystery.

3.HHH is trying to be a ruthless dictator and Show getting the upper hand 3 Raws in a row just makes HHH look powerless and when Bryan was beat up 3 the Raw in a row everyone was like not this again, now its the heels losing out no gives a crap except people like me who are on the heels side.

So 3-3 isn't fair?

Why anyone bitches about heels winning more or faces winning more is beyond me. It's a show. It should be balanced otherwise it gets too repetitive and stale. Having your faces and your heels keeping up with one another sounds balanced to me.

4. Orton didn't even land a punch on Bryan which makes him look weak and because of the surprise makes its seem like less of an accomplishment for Bryan than if he had beat him in a fair fight

Made Bryan look strong, which was the whole point of screwing Bryan months ago to begin with.

5-10. Would have all been elements of a brawl, The Shield come out to beat down Bryan with Orton on HHH's orders, maybe Rollins takes a superkick after threatening Michaels

Which would ruin his impartial angle...

, the babyfaces in the back and Show save Bryan

Which we have already seen not even that long ago...

, which leads to someone going through the table and it would have been a more epic

How many contract signings have you watched? That's how most of them end. It's become a running cliché that reeks of unoriginality and is expected. I don't see how putting someone through the table for the 638th time is considered epic.

and finish if Bryan, Show, Rhodes brothers and Uso's are in the ring YES chanting while HHH, Steph, Orton and Shield are making their way up the ramp.

1. You just complained about the heels looking bad, and now you want the faces to join together and make them look worse???

2. The Regime Angle would die fast if the faces aligned the way you're wanting them to. Part of the uniqueness about this angle compared to The Corporation and the NWO is that it's not meant to override everything happening in the WWE. It's just one storyline with a few players. As it should be.

I understand you're not too keen on the show's ending. I'm not either. But what you're saying are flaws are not flaws at all, but something different. Every two cents you threw in, whether it's someone going through a table, or the faces rallying, has been done to death. And complaints about how a wrestler should drive a truck and how Bryan got a perfect upper hand on Orton doesn't sound wrong at all.

 

[DarksideEric]

2. Big Show is poor yet he can get his hands on plane tickets and a truck

I have to question why people continually bring up things like this as a negative.

You can believe people like the Undertaker are "supernatural" but OMG how did Big Show get a hold of a truck when he's broke?!

Really?

 

[George Steele's Barber]

I will say one thing they seemed to f up. Maybe I blinked but it looked like the production crew didn't switch the live camera fast enough for us to really take in Bryan's knee to Orton's face. I also don't remember seeing HBK's reaction. That guy has some of the most over the top facial reactions in the business. I would have liked to see how HBK reacted to Orton getting his head popped off out of no where.

 

[meloyellow15]

Maybe Shawn Michaels set the Big Show up with some money. He was talking all night about how he wanted to have some fun.

 

[InterestingDrug]

This was quite a poor ending to the show. Leading into the PPV, you expect something to happen to entice potential buyers to pay for the big event. This did not happen. It was a clunky ending and did nothing to promote the PPV. I even said to myself "that was a lame ending".

Big Show driving the truck in did nothing to move the storyline forward. I also do not understand why Big Show continues to do the "YES!" chant. It's not helping Daniel Bryan's character any to have another character use his catch-phrase. I just don't get the storyline at all.

 

[Slash-LN]

I'll start with the positives, the Truck was a very creative addition and it was unexpected and exciting. Now the Negative
1. The truck was driven perfectly and did not crash into anything
2. Big Show is poor yet he can get his hands on plane tickets and a truck
3. HHH is looking very powerful isn't, 3 episodes in a row where he is left in the ring annoyed or asleep
4. Randy Orton got no offense in
5. No appearance from the Shield
6. No appearance from any of the faces
7. Big Show was not physically involved
8. No one went through the table the contract was signed on
9. No brawl and just 1 move was hit. I was watching waiting for riot and that was it
10. HBK did nothing

1. Big Show also drove a monster truck in WCW once and had no problem doing that. Kurt Angle drove a milk truck. Steve Austin drove a shit load of vehicles during his run.

2. Big Show also doesn't work for the company anymore but somehow managed to interrupt the show via satellite. Three weeks ago he was fired at the start of the show then at the end he managed to get back in the building, have his music played when he came out, get to the ring with no security trying to stop him all while still wearing his wrestling attire because apparently in the three hours he was out of the building he didn't change his clothes. It's wrestling man. Don't over think it. This isn't the first time something like this has happened.

3. You later in this thread contradicted yourself in your rebuttal so I'm not going to address this.

4. That was the point. Big Show distracts Orton and allows Bryan to get the running knee in. Then Bryan leaves the ring and celebrates.

5. They don't have to appear in every authority segment.

6. What reason was there for them to appear? Bryan had the upper hand.

7. He didn't need to be. He was there to provide the distraction.

8. There was no reason anyone needed to go through the table.

9. Again there was no reason for that. People complain endlessly when that happens anyway. Most people (not all) consider that to be lazy booking. We've seen it a million times.

10. HBK isn't supposed to be taking sides. In your rebuttal you have Seth Rollins for some random reason threatening him. That doesn't even make sense considering HBK and Hunter are friends. Why would Seth Rollins who is on Hunter's side randomly threaten HBK who is impartial?

 

[d_henderson1810]

I didn't like the ending either but not for the reasons listed in the OP. Idk why it just seemed like watching the dull show I was expecting a huge ending and Big Show driving in the truck seemed random, unnecessary, and not big enough. Also as far as your first point, Big show was hitting chairs and a few other things I saw he may have bumped a table as well lol.

Big Show driving down in a truck was dull.

Yet, when "Stone Cold" Steve Austin did the same thing years ago, you people all popped for it.

I mean, Big Show is bald and has a goatee. If he were a few feet shorter, he could pass as SCSA. Maybe you could just pretend that this is that angle back in '98.

Oh, I forgot, SCSA doing a crap onstage would be entertaining to you people. Yet when Big Show drives a truck down, it isn't as good. Maybe Show should have squirt amber liquid at the baddies as well.

 

[MCMG]

My main problem was that it seemed to be focused on HBK/HHH but Big Show arriving on the truck and Bryan kneeing (is there an official name his finisher) Orton ensured that the WWE Title was made to look paramount.

I don't see any major flaws in Big Show driving out on the truck. I was waiting for The Shield to enter, I suppose they could have had the three of them run out and Big Show knock them out which would cross out two of your list.

The ending of Raw was Bryan looking strong and the thought that Triple H doesn't have complete control. Therefore, it isn't a certainty that Orton will win the belt at Hell in a Cell which will probably happening.

 

[InterestingDrug]

As much as the ending of RAW was disappointing, seeing that Big Show was actually driving the truck was impressive. These trucks are not easy to drive. He seemed to fit the role of truck driver pretty well. Maybe he never stole this truck. Maybe he got a job as a trucker and just drove it to the event. Maybe we can add that to the storyline. Maybe it's a whole new gimmick for Big Show. Maybe I'm thinking about this too much.

 

[Cats Pajamas]

I will respond to the critics and explain my reasoning
1. It was late and I was tired and missed Show hitting a few things but my point was you shouldn't be able to get in a truck and be a precision driver.

I'm with you. If you're going through the trouble of driving a truckto the ring, do something with it. Parking it safely was anticlimactic.

5. No appearance from the Shield
6. No appearance from any of the faces
7. Big Show was not physically involved
...
9. No brawl and just 1 move was hit. I was watching waiting for riot and that was it

I expect every one of these things to happen during the buildup to Survivor Series, anyway.

8. No one went through the table the contract was signed on

I agree with you on this one, too, regardless of how overdone it is. Anytime a table is in the middle of a pro wrasslin ring, someone should go through it. To not bust the table is like giving the fans the finger.

Oh, I forgot, SCSA doing a crap onstage would be entertaining to you people.

Maybe.. yet Big Show doing the same thing would still be boring. Go figure.

Maybe Shawn Michaels set the Big Show up with some money. He was talking all night about how he wanted to have some fun.

Or he just felt bad For Big Show. Doesn't Shawn know what it's like to suddenly be completely broke as a wrestler?

 

[Kris Benwa]

Big Show driving down in a truck was dull.

Yet, when "Stone Cold" Steve Austin did the same thing years ago, you people all popped for it.

I mean, Big Show is bald and has a goatee. If he were a few feet shorter, he could pass as SCSA. Maybe you could just pretend that this is that angle back in '98.

Oh, I forgot, SCSA doing a crap onstage would be entertaining to you people. Yet when Big Show drives a truck down, it isn't as good. Maybe Show should have squirt amber liquid at the baddies as well.

It was dull when a part of the show. The whole RAW was boring so you expect the Main Event or segment to have something awesome in it and Big Show driving the truck in didn't hit like it should have. And it was so random and unnecessary he drove in a huge truck only to park it, open the door, tell Orton to turn around and then shout yes. Why was the truck at all necessary he could have reappeared on the Titantron and accomplished the same thing. Also to counter what I predict will be your rebuttal, Big Show does not need a truck to enter the arena he's done it these past few weeks willy nilly and he's big and powerful enough that if security or anyone gave him any trouble he could knock them all out it just didn't make much logical sense nor was it necessary to the story and it was an ending to a dull raw that wasn't as powerful as it should have been.