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Why Orton?

Justin Satiable

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Orton walks out of Night of Champions as WWE Champion. But I just have to ask, why Orton?

The man HAS been on fire recently, and has built up huge momentum, but Randy has never interested me as Champion. He just seems to lack that quality of being a champion. Instead, he just always appears as an over superstar with the title.

Maybe it's cos it's 4 AM here, I'm not an Orton fan and I'm just grouchy, but I'm sure I wasn't the only one going "c'mon, someone ambush Orton then c'mon Miz cash in that contract!"

What are your opinions on Orton's victory? Do you enjoy Orton as Champ? Do you think he should have won tonight?
 
He didn't need to win it, he's too good even without being champion. I guess this is the first step into Super Orton era! Nah jk, but I thought Miz would come and cash it in once Sheamus hit the broad kick. Another thing I noticed was after Cena hit Nexus with the chair, I thought he was about to hit Orton from the back after he RKO'd Barrett. But damn I really wanted Barrett to win. Glad it's Orton and not Cena though.
 
Orton walks out of Night of Champions as WWE Champion. But I just have to ask, why Orton?

The man HAS been on fire recently, and has built up huge momentum, but Randy has never interested me as Champion. He just seems to lack that quality of being a champion. Instead, he just always appears as an over superstar with the title.

Maybe it's cos it's 4 AM here, I'm not an Orton fan and I'm just grouchy, but I'm sure I wasn't the only one going "c'mon, someone ambush Orton then c'mon Miz cash in that contract!"

What are your opinions on Orton's victory? Do you enjoy Orton as Champ? Do you think he should have won tonight?

If I had to take a wild guess, it would be that since Cena's putting over Nexus that WWE needs Orton to put over Sheamus.... Besides, how ******ed would it be to have Miz not want revenge against Daniel Bryan at HIAC... Furthermore, what makes you think Miz is ready for a high profile match like HIAC? Sheamus vs. Orton is a proven draw and why not see those two go at it in a HIAC match?


The bigger question on my mind is, are we going to see Daniel Bryan vs. Dolph Ziggler in a Unification match at HIAC or Survivor Series?
 
As much as I am a Randy Orton fan, I'm going to say this was a huge disappointment for me. He's always been a boring champion in my mind, but I love when he's going after the belt. It should have gone to someone who could have used the belt, such as Sheamus to build more credibility for him.

Nonetheless, I was less than pleased with this result.
 
dude you must be fucking high this is awesome!! this has to be my fav main event of 2010. first off let me say this whole ppv was awesome..i saw no problem even the divas match i had no problem with. but the main event i was was going apeshit for..first off really didnt see jericho losing..espically in 2 minutes of the match..i saw edge being eliminated and i saw cena being elimintated but thought he would last til the end but cena got eliminted pretty eraly which made the crowd go apeshit..then to top it all off RKO to sheamus and the 1 2 3 it was bananas the crowd was into it i saw people jumping out of thier seat for the whole ppv...all in alli give the ppv a a minus
 
I honestly wished Barret would've won, and it just made me hate Cena's character even more. I was marking out when he eliminated Cena, but I should have known Cena would've gotten his revenge. Typical Cena Crap as I like to call it.

Personally, Orton has been booked well by the WWE and I enjoy him a lot more as a challenger. With his "Viper" gimmick he hasn't cut a lot of promos rather than when he was the "Legend Killer". Plus, a lot of people like Orton, his promos, and his in ring work, but I personally think he's overrated, and mainly because his style isn't for me, but that doesn't mean he isn't good. I find Orton at times to boring, but I don't mind him at all, plus he really hasn't had a win on a PPV for awhile now so he did deserve this.

Don't mind the victory, Don't mind Orton as champ, but Barrett should've won tonight.
 
I honestly wished Barret would've won, and it just made me hate Cena's character even more. I was marking out when he eliminated Cena, but I should have known Cena would've gotten his revenge. Typical Cena Crap as I like to call it.

Really? Cena crap, really? I'm sure you're joking because there is no common sense in your brain if you couldn't see that as justice.

Wade Barret and Nexus not only cost Cena the WWE title tonight, but also this is the third time since Fatal Fourway that Nexus has screwed Cena... and even though I hate Cena, I honestly marked out when he leveled Barret and Nexus... I mean put it in your perspective... three times you've tried to accomplish something and everytime this tall ass giant comes with his band of minions and screws you over.... I don't know about you but to me that calls for an ass whippin.


I think Cena and Barret are in for a great rivalry and in the end it will put Wade over big time as a top heel, and tonight just threw more fuel into the fire.
 
Barrett should have won, or Miz should have cashed in. Orton just doesn't interest me as champion. He's the most over guy on the roster, true, but I honestly don't see why. He's just kind of...there, to me. Every other main eventer with the exception of Edge interests me more than Orton.

I think Orton in his current state is more suited to chasing the title. Plus with this win he'll probably have ANOTHER Sheamus feud, and while I like Sheamus I just don't want to see this. Then again, with Orton feuding with Sheamus, Cena will be busy with Barrett (though it should have been over the title), and since Orton and Sheamus are going to have an HIAC match, that gives Miz another opportunity to cash in MITB.

We'll see how this goes, I suppose.
 
how did barrett get knocked out? did orton pin him or what? (sorry, didn't get to watch, i had to read it from the site and it didn't say how barrett got eliminated.)
 
Altough i dont mind the idea of orton as a champion, because lets face it when was the last time he was a champion? over a year ago? and this run can really solidify his face turn, this way cena can focus on battling Nexus and orton can begin a fresh feud with sheamus one on one, you can expect the interference of the miz when his feud with Bryan is over.
 
Orton winning the title was inevitable. He's way over right now, and heading into this match, WWE made sure to build him up in a huge way, so his win here really didn't surprise me. He has the right character, and a cool finisher. The crowd erupted when he hit the RKO on Sheamus. Oton's riding a huge wave of momentum, and I don't see things slowing down for him anytime soon.

I'll admit Orton can be extremely boring most of the times, and that twitching he does in the ring creeps me out , but as long as he keeps receiving these monster reactions, then things aren't going to change.

Although, there is one really bad thing about all of this. Orton pinned Sheamus, so that means Sheamus is certain to invoke his rematch clause. I really, really don't want to see another Orton VS Sheamus match, because the matches they had at the Royal Rumble and Summerslam sucked. I'm thinking The Miz is going to cash in his briefcase on Orton at Hell In A Cell. Then maybe something exciting could happen in that match.
 
Yes I have just seen the end of NOC and I can honestly say that Orton winning did not come to my mind at all. But now that I think about it, that could pretty much be the only solution.

There are two stories going on about Jericho now. He's either going to decide against renewing his contract and leave WWE to work on his band or decide to renew and jump to Smackdown. Either way, there is no reason whatsoever for him to have the title now.

There has never been a single reign of Edge's where he didnt have help. He doesn't have Vickie or Chavo to help him out anymore, so how would people be able to take him seriously this time? Besides, there's talk of Edge going back to Smackdown. If this is true, then why give him the belt?

Can you honestly tell me that the ratings will do well if Cena is champ AGAIN? People are sick of the guy just being there, copying Hogan's Punch > beatdown > rejuvunation > 5 moves of doom > win formula all the damn time.
To add to that, for the past year or two, the ratings have been at its lowest every time Cena was champ. I don't think that WWE wants to take the chance of losing more viewers especially since football season is back. No belt for him.

Wade Barrett, WWE Champion. That sounds worse than Santino Marella, WWE Champion. Given the fact that Nexus had to interfere even in this match, its pretty much saying that Barrett needs the help of other people in order to win a match. The main champ needs to be able to fight their own battles and Barrett is definitely not that guy. The fact is that even though he may have really good mic and ring skills, he is just too green and unknown for WWE to put the belt on him.

Finally, the giant human jar of mayonnaise, aka Sheamus. If you will notice, Sheamues has won the title twice, and each time he defended it he either got himself or his opponent DQ'ed or faced someone so unpopular that nobody gives a shit (we're looking at you Zack Ryder). He's a joke of a champion. Plus with Hell in a Cell coming up (they need to bring back No Mercy or bring back blood because I can't take this PPV seriously) Sheamus won't be able to get himself DQ'ed, taking away his only means of keeping his title.

So in short, Orton was the only choice.
 
I personally would have liked to see Wade Barrett or Miz cash in to become the New Champ but that didn't happen and they choose to put it on Orton. Orton is obviously Very Over with crowd and it makes sense to have him win the belt. I personally find him a little boring but as long he gets those MASSIVE reactions from the crowd it won't matter. I think Orton will have one more Match with Sheamus at HIC.
 
I am an Orton and Cena fan, Neither are the worlds best wrestler not even slightly but as long as you know that i think you go enjoy and respect them. I see no point in Orton getting the title tonight none what so ever. I think its good Miz didn't cash tho because it wouldn't of been believable for him to walk away champion. Barrett winning might of been a good outcome but that would of had to of been with Miz cashing in and Daniel Bryan costing him the title and rejoining Nexus. Meaning Miz would of been the only mitb winner not to get the title i think that would of been great for a feud and for building Miz imho. So i think the winner tonight should of been Edge. That would of thrown people and opened lots of doors!

Let the swearing, mocking and general net beat-down on me begin.
 
Its pretty obvious why Orton? Because he is way over with the crowd. And has been receiving a monster push as of late. I thought he was going to win it at summerslam. It is well deserved great match.
 
orton won cuz him and the miz have been fueding, and now miz has dropped the us title and can cash in mitb at any point on orton, win and then wwe will have a great orton/miz storyline
 
orton is on fire right now , we've never seen him like this when he was champion in the past .. so dont criticize and say he'll be boring .. i think this is good for the wwe right now .. a real champion .. unlike cena and sheamus .. orton is in rare form right now and i think he'll pull this off .. and if miz cashes in on orton when he's like this miz will lose the title the next week during the rematch .
 
I dislike the fact that Orton became champion. For some reason, I have always found Orton as a champion to be very stale. And now we could possibly be looking to a Sheamus vs. Orton match at HIAC. I'm sorry but that just screams "meh" to me.

However, Orton for the past few weeks has been built as a dominant force. Every week on Raw, Randy would deliver multiple RKO's to top stars and end the show with him posing or doing something to make him look "bad-ass". It goes without saying, Randy has looked extremely well these past few weeks. Sure, it might have gotten annoying at times to always 'have him come out on top', but in the end, it was all 'part of the plan'. So really, it makes sense that Randy would have come out champion as that was what all the build up for Night of Champions was about (through a certain point of view).

In my opinion, I would have wanted to see Wade Barret come out as champion. Wade has yet to establish himself as a "main-event star" when it comes to singles competition. So what better boost then to have him become champion? Don't get me wrong. I am not taking away "credibility" from Wade. No. Not at all. I am merely saying that as a single's competitor, Wade isn't quite at the level to be considered a true main eventer. And I believe that if he would have won this match, then it would have done wonders for him and ultimately, establish him as a main-eventer.

However, Randy becoming champion was the most logical choice...unfortunately, it's not what I wanted at all.
 
The bigger question on my mind is, are we going to see Daniel Bryan vs. Dolph Ziggler in a Unification match at HIAC or Survivor Series?
my hope is NEVER, if WWE does this garbage, they will HURT their midcarders and main eventers. How can guys like Punk be World Champion when guys like Cena and Orton are holding the World titles???? And with only one champion, either Orton, HHH, Cena or any big guy, what happens??? guys like CM Punk and former world champions are forced to mid-carders and push guys like Daniel Bryan back. I like having an IC, US, WWE, and World title. I agree with the Tag Team and Women's titles, they HAD to be unified, but the other titles dont need it. The IC title will become important when Ziggler feuds with a new midcarder in Kaval and Bryan's win will have him feud with Miz once more, beat him (hopefully with the accidental help of Alex Riley), then he will move on to feud with various members of Nexus and hopefully Ted Dibiase. As for The Miz, i thought he would either cash in on Sheamus if HHH returned or he would wait and use it on Orton to make him a bigger heel, i could see Miz win the WWE title at the HIAC pay per view after Orton wins and maybe gets attacked by Sheamus.
 
i would rather of seen Wade Barrett, although i don't like him, but they need to have someone who has NEVER won the title. All the ones in that match have been previous champions except Barrett.
 
At this time Orton is the obvious choice for Champion. As others have said, folks are just sick of Cena as Champ, Edge and Jericho are up in the air but frankly who really wants to see either of them as Champion. Wade Barrett and the whole Nexus thing is becoming a real waste really. They could be doing so much more to put these guys over than just going after Cena week in and week out. Sheamus still needs time to prove his worth. He has got the skill but he needs to be put over more. Orton is just the person to do that. Orton is great either as a face or a heel, but he is so much more better in this "gray" area at the moment. Orton as a full "face" is well, not pretty. But where he is at right now is perfect. An Orton/Sheamus rivalry that lasts a few PPV would not only put Sheamus over but sell as well.

The way they brought in Sheanus was a catastrophe to begin with. And really nothing has been done to help solidify him as a contender. An Orton/Sheamus rivalry could develop into one of the better known rivalries in the WWE if they play it out right.
 
As an Orton fan, It's great. But that wasn't what I wanted or was hoping for. He just doesn't need the title. I was hoping for a Barrett win or a Miz cash in. But whatever.

At least the PPV was a pretty good one for a change. I thought the Miz/Bryan match was great.

Anyway, though I didn't get exactly what I wanted, I was entertained and it's better for Orton to have won, than Cena. I didn't wanna see Edge win either.
 
I think HITC is going to be very tough in the PG and i don't really expect much. Championship feud won't be much due to time left to hype and concerned about how Orton will be as champ.
 
Wade Barret had to win the championship tonight to keep the Nexus angle alive. Now the Nexus momentum is dead which is a shame, but most of us saw the writing on the wall after SS. The WWE REALLY dropped the ball on this one. As much as I like Randy Orton, I felt that if the WWE had allowed Wade Barrett to become champion, you could have revived the Nexus angle in a major way heading into The Survivor Series. Or, you could have Orton win the Royal Rumble and challenge Wade Barrett at Wrestlemainia. Orton really did not have to win the championship right now. I mean think about it, are we ready to see another half a year of Cena/ Orton?
 
Seriously people drop the shield of "He beat my pick so I hate him now"... seriously, my two picks were Jericho and Sheamus and neither of them won, but I would say that the main event was booked right. Randy's been without the title for over a year and he's been only finger tips away from the title since losing it and tonight was simply the perfect time to give him the title before people lost interest.

Barret having the title and walking into a PPV that features one of WWE's best matches would be pointless without any solid proof that he can hold his own... Orton's been in Elimination Chambers and Hell In a Cells and has produced enough PPV buy rates that him walking in would only make Vince feel confident about his champion.

Sheamus has been in the same boat both title reigns... he's not destined for a solid legit reign with clean wins until Orton and Cena leave the top show which won't be for a while... however, I can see a Cell match between him and Orton just not with him walking in or out as the champion...

Cena is in a program with Barret and Nexus... why in the world would you risk putting a rookie like Barret in a high profile match with the biggest title in the company?

Edge and Jericho are talent enhancers... simple...

In the end, Orton is the best choice and though I would want to see Sheamus walk in as the champion I am not surprised that Orton is...

Not to mention, if you anybody pays attention to the WWE like you all claim you do, you'd realize that booking for WM 27 began at SummerSlam. If Kane actually makes it to WM as the champion for the unification, could you REALLY see Barret challenging Kane? Especially when Kane had to help him destroy Taker but Kane can do it on his own, and not only that but Barret was running like a coward during Season 1 of NXT...

Furthermore, would Sheamus make a valuable opponent being a heel? And what would come of Edge or Jericho facing Kane?

And as it's been rumored, Cena and Taker are supposed to face off this year at Mania with Cena (though I don't approve) taking the streak...

So to me, Orton vs. Kane is only fitting as it would give Orton fuel to become a dominant Undisputed champion.
 

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