Why is Cole so bad?

[Dwayne_Jason]

If this has been done, I apologize, please merge if it has. Let me first start by saying I'm no Cole fan going "OMGZ COLE IZ DA BEST!!" Then again, I also don't understand why Cole is said to be one of the worst commentators. I understand why people want JR back but is that the only reason they want Cole dead? Furthermore, I've never realized why Cole is so bad. I do admit his face pisses me off, but I never understood why his commentary is shat upon?

Do you think Cole is bad? If so, why? What kind of color commentary would you like?

 

[Hazardous]

.. replying to this is like beating a dead horse, but, thats okay.

Cole fumbles a lot, he has no character at all, is he heel? is he Face? he'll say that Nexus is bad. edge is bad, bad guys are bad, oh wait! there's Miz! oh he's the greatest! yeah, be a heel, or be a face, pick your damn side. the "And i quote" had gotten REEAAALLL old. and if someone has been around for less then 15 years, you can NOT call a move they do "vintage" i think i'll end it there, and allow other people to get theirs as well.

 

[Captain Jive]

I just don't find him entertaining, he's not Matt Striker boring, but he's up there. We went from someone as intense as JR to him. It's also irritating because every 5 minutes he goes back and forth on being a heel or not. I wouldn't say that I hate him, he just doesn't do anything for me.

 

[Hazardous]

it's not even the "i want JR" crap either, because i liked the switch from Vince to JR, it was a smooth transition, they had the same style of work, and the same emotion in their speech. Cole has never really had that. not backstage, and not behind the desk

 

[Dwayne_Jason]

First off, thanks for the replies. Secondly, Cole's Vintage has really died down. Is he improving? No, but I think Cole tries his best to pretend to become JR and clearly fails at it.I just think he needs to relax and make his own character. Kind of like Jerry Lawler. Oh and if you think Cole is THAT bad, what kind of color commentary would you like? Two heels, two faces?

 

[Hazardous]

King is no Heel, has not been for years now. so there is your Face, so, by process of elimination, that leaves Cole. he is already hated by the fans anyway, so why not do the full Heel turn?

 

[WWEFAN_100]

Cole to me is just flat out boring as commentator. He shows no enthusiasm in matches and is just plain out annoying. I started enjoying cole more when he was working with Daniel Bryan.

I think WWE hold’s him back, but if they do what he did with Daniel Bryan, I think Cole can show what he can do.

 

[patriotjay]

Cole sucks and it has nothing to do with JR being missed Cole sucks cause he sucks hes boring he says vintage to stuff thats 6 months old and he shouldnt be next to Lawler whos great.But atleast hes not Matt Striker who says the most ******ed shit I even heard his refrences kill me.We need some retired wrestlers to get behind the table I enjoyed JBL alot more then Striker or Cole.Would like to see more characters and wrestlers are characters we used to make fun of Savage and Rhodes but atleast it made us laugh when these pricks just put us to sleep..

 

[Vintage]

Cole has no passion. He's your average corporate drone just doing his job. He also has no personality at all. He sits there spouting the company lines one after another. I actually think they purposely paired him with Striker during PPV's just to fuck with him since he sucks so much. He's pretty much what the WWE wants in their new announcers since we'd prefer him to stfu so we can pay attention to the action in the ring. Bryan Saxton and Josh Matthews are the same exact way.

 

[Stephen11]

His commentary on NXT just annoys the crap out of me. It's not even because a heel, half the stuff he stays makes no sense. 90% of the references he makes on NXT about the Miz make absolutely no sense and aren't even close to accurate. Cole has nothing that makes him stand out in positive or even negative way, he's a horrible heel. He just annoys people. I feel bad for Josh Mathews because he has to deal with it and not even he understand what Cole is saying.

Cole's commentary honestly makes me want to stop watching NXT or mute it so I don't have to hear him. All he does is suck up to the Miz and Alex Riley, it's not even done in a heel way. It's just sucking up and acting like he's Miz's secret lover.

 

[Bonrocker92]

No......Cole isn't bad at all. People just dislike him cuz they misss JR. I always enjoyed his commentary especially on Smackdown..when he never got heat. I remember him being a face commentator and saying "NOT THIS WAY!!'' He was good!! And the vintige thing is genius!! Why else would Tazz be saying the same thing on TNA?? It's not just to mock him, its cuz its good!! The way i see it, it's the fans that boo him just cuz they consider him to be a poor replacement for JR. What the fan's don't understand is that WWE employees have to move on...which is what JR did and that's what he wanted to do!! JR didn't want to keep traveling...he wanted a slower schedule...so this is what happend. Why don't the fans respect Cole??? He's old school u know....he used to interview wrestlers backstage...remember that??? He's been around for a very long time!! Please people!! Get over JR...time to move on!!

 

[Wrestlefan27]

I believe that part of the reason for the bad commentary is that at least some of the commentary lines are fed to them straight from the production truck, those lines that they speak aren't necessarily of their own design. Also, I believe that the commentators are told about what's going to happen in the match so they can react appropriately, or try to. I think this is a bad practice as the emotion would be more genuine if they really don't know what's going to happen.

For instance, when Orton gave the RKO to Bourne out of the SSP I went crazy. I haven't marked out like that since Hogan dropped the leg on Savage at Bash at the Beach. Sure, the announcers made it seem great, but not like "Holy f***! Did I just see that?!"

But I also agree with the person who said that the WWE probably doesn't want the commentators to be actual characters because they want us paying attention to what's happening in the ring.

 

[Hazardous]

No......Cole isn't bad at all. People just dislike him cuz they misss JR. I always enjoyed his commentary especially on Smackdown..when he never got heat. I remember him being a face commentator and saying "NOT THIS WAY!!'' He was good!! And the vintige thing is genius!! Why else would Tazz be saying the same thing on TNA?? It's not just to mock him, its cuz its good!! The way i see it, it's the fans that boo him just cuz they consider him to be a poor replacement for JR. What the fan's don't understand is that WWE employees have to move on...which is what JR did and that's what he wanted to do!! JR didn't want to keep traveling...he wanted a slower schedule...so this is what happend. Why don't the fans respect Cole??? He's old school u know....he used to interview wrestlers backstage...remember that??? He's been around for a very long time!! Please people!! Get over JR...time to move on!!

did you read my post at all? i covered the JR thing in it if you didnt. Cole has no character. plain and simple. and actually Cole started using the "vintage" line back when Tazz was his partner. they both used it.

 

[info62]

I don't hate Cole because I miss JR. I hate Cole because of THIS:

" WELCOME BACK TO THE LONGEST RUNNING WEEKLY EPISODIC TELEVISION SERIES IN CABLE HISTORY! "

Every single time he starts rambling on about the weekly episodic bullshit I have to turn the volume down.

This isn't to say that all the other announcers are pure gold or anything. But yes Cole sucks, probably worse than all the other ones in recent history not named Adamle (this includes TNA as well). He doesn't make me miss JR, he makes me miss JBL on commentary. That's really all he was good for IMO - being bashed by JBL the entire show.

He acts so boring and uninterested. Unless of course it's Orton "SLITHERING TO THE RING" or Miz making him say "OH MY GOD LADIES AND GENTLEMEN WHAT A COUNTER!" after a basic move... There's just so much to dislike Cole for, and I didn't even include half of it

 

[Hazardous]

For instance, when Orton gave the RKO to Bourne out of the SSP
I went crazy. I haven't marked out like that since Hogan dropped the leg on Savage at Bash at the Beach. Sure, the announcers made it seem great, but not like "Holy f***! Did I just see that?!"

really? what about Mankind getting thrown off the cell? that did nothing for you at all? there was a whole thread on big spots like that.

and they have ALWAYS known what would happen, even as far back as..well.. EVER. it's scripted remember. but if you listen to the raw emotion people like Vince Mcmahon or JR use to put into it when they were the play-by-play guys, it's a HUGE difference compared to Cole. even Lawler, one of my favorite of all time has gone so far downhill next to Cole.

 

[80s Dude]

The reason I do not like Cole doesn't have much to do with how bad his commentary seems to be, it's more to do with how annoying I find him in general.
This goes back to his debut, long before he became the weekly voice of either brand. I find his voice annoying, his mannerisms annoying, and his look annoying.

As a matter of fact, he reminded me of Todd Pettengill when he debuted. And that dude was also very annoying to me.

 

[patriotjay]

You know whats funny? He always sucked but on smackdown when he was getting bitched by Taz and JBL it wasnt so bad.Maybe Lawler should just bully his punk ass and give him an occasional "vintage" pile driver.Id pay to see that

 

[Chardee Macdennis]

No......Cole isn't bad at all. People just dislike him cuz they misss JR. I always enjoyed his commentary especially on Smackdown..when he never got heat. I remember him being a face commentator and saying "NOT THIS WAY!!'' He was good!! And the vintige thing is genius!! Why else would Tazz be saying the same thing on TNA?? It's not just to mock him, its cuz its good!! The way i see it, it's the fans that boo him just cuz they consider him to be a poor replacement for JR. What the fan's don't understand is that WWE employees have to move on...which is what JR did and that's what he wanted to do!! JR didn't want to keep traveling...he wanted a slower schedule...so this is what happend. Why don't the fans respect Cole??? He's old school u know....he used to interview wrestlers backstage...remember that??? He's been around for a very long time!! Please people!! Get over JR...time to move on!!

Listen, once and for all this has little, if anything at all, to do with J.R. Cole is simply annoying. His mannerisms make me want to slap him right in the tits. When he puts on those stupid fuckin' glasses, walks up to the laptop, looks out with that dumb look on his face and says "and I quote", I want to jump through my GD television set. He doesn't bring anything to the match and even brings down the entertainment value in certain instances. IF he tried harder to be this annoying little ass clown that I just described, than I suppose he could turn himself into a decent heel character. Right now, he's nothing but a dipshit behind a MIC.

 

[BostonBrawler]

I don't understand you Cole haters....I actually enjoy his work... Jim Ross was played out and when Cole replaced JR initially.. I thought it was a fresh air and still do... I think that he is naturally playing into a role of a hated commentator...

Though, I do think Cole and JR goof off a lot during a " two shot"....that is the only problem I have.

 

[patriotjay]

You guys know that WWE is loving this and Cole is some evil genius behind Nexus or somthing Im not sure but I get the feeling hes gonna play a part in this story going back to his beef with Daniel Bryan and praising the other rookies.Maybe they bring back Bryan as a face against cole and his Nexus lol you never know.I just think the WWE is going to feed this fire because we love to hate Cole.I dont want to see Cole leave..unless its on a stretcher

 

[TSG]

Michael Cole really isn't that bad, folks.

I don't know what it is, but people just seem to overreact to him. He has a personality, but it only shines through his heel side, which he portrays more on NXT. So for all of you saying he has no personality watch NXT next week and you'll see one.

For those that complain about Vintage, have you ever heard of a thing called a catchphrase? J.R. had one, Jerry Lawler has/had one (doesn't really say it anymore), and Michael Cole has one. Get over it. It's quite entertaining when he uses it, and surprisingly accurate most of the time (except when it's Vintage Bragging Rights).

For those who miss J.R. I have a news bulletin for you: Get over it. He's gone, he was great, yes, but he isn't coming back. Accept the new breed.

Michael Cole may not be the best announcer around, but he is good enough for what he is. He may lack energy at some times, but everyone can't be as energetic or passionate as J.R., especially if Vince McMahon is screaming in your ear not to. I just wish they would move Josh Matthews to RAW. Matthews and Cole have great chemistry together, and are very entertaining when they mix it up behind the booth.

Michael Cole isn't that bad. Quit overreacting to him, people.

 

[NthDegree23]

Cole is an empty suit. JR had a personality; a persona. He had likes and dislikes. Cole is a non-entity. He represents the socialist nature of the WWE's programming, where they censor anything they choose regardless of its historical significance.

But that's just scratching the surface. When you've listened to Cole for long enough, you can tell whether or not a kick-out is coming after a finisher. This deeply annoys me on big PPVs. If the finisher-receiver is going to kick-out, Cole will say something along the lines of "IT'S OVER!!!!" when the finisher-hitter is first going for the pin. If they are not going to kick-out and the match is indeed son to be over Cole won't mention the pin (this is actually something I've noticed Lawler doing recently, too. If either one of them says the end of the match is imminent, it's not.). If you watch a PPV main event, this problem is quite prevalent. I swear, when I hear him shout "The streak is over!!!!?!" at Wrestlemania, it completely takes away from the drama and uncertainty of the moment.

Lastly, he's just flat out annoying even when he doesn't mean to be. Example one: JBL put Person-I-Can't-Remember in a torture rack, and Cole said, "This could actually be something of a submission hold." Well, yes, that is the nature of a torture rack. Example two: During the Wrestlemania 25 HBK vs 'Taker match, the most memorable announcing line was "Chokeslams! Last Rides! Tombstones! And a kickout! And a kickout! And a kickout!" Good ol' JR. At Wrestlemania 26, it was "You can literally feel the emotion seeping through the pours of the WWE Universe!" That's just creepy.

 

[Hazardous]

and again, its NOT just "i miss JR. i want JR. JR was better" becuase Vince was Also great at the Table too for all you who dont remember. other names like Jesse the Body, Bobby the Brain, and JBL. these were guys who had CHARACTER!!!! (how many times has that been said now?) guyes who showed EMOTION
and to use the "he has someone screaming in his ear" line is bullshit. EVERY announcer has had someone in thei ear, and not all were screaming, because they only scream when you are doing something bad, which is why Cole is being yelled at lots, where as someone like... Paul Heyman, or Joey Styles, would not be. why? because they were good at it.

 

[Prophecy of Darkness]

Michael Cole sucks.He is the black hole of announcing(besides Mike Adamle of course).I actually used to like Cole when he was on Smackdown with Taz/JBL.He wasn't as annoying as he is now.Back then he would show some of the emotion that we are now missing.He was the JR of Smackdown(in terms of when you thought of Raw,you thought of JR.When you thought of Smackdown,you thought of Michael Cole).But now he's so boring and bland.On NXT,Cole doesn't make me think"oh I hate him so much cause he's a heel",he makes me think"oh I hate him so much...I think I'll change the channel".

 

[Hawkeye]

I just think Cole is like the guy that tries too hard to be cool or be noticed.You can hear it in his speech and how he just prattles on about meaningless minutiae when there's plenty going on in the ring.We know you can't look at Maryse without getting a boner,and you're a total loser,let King comment on the divas,you call the match peon.

and It's a POWERSLAM,NOT A FUCKING SCOOPSLAM!!!!!