Whose will leave behind the bigger legacy: E&C or The Hardy's

[Tastycles]

Between them Matt Hardy, Jeff Hardy, Edge and Christian have notched up a total of 11 World Championship reigns, an ECW title reign, 14 Intercontinental Championship and US Title reigns, 3 European Title reigns, 3 Light Heavyweight title and Cruiserweight title reigns, 5 Hardcore title reigns and a staggering 18 Tag Team title reigns (were ones held together count as 1, individually it would be 31).

Clearly these four wrestlers are very decorated indeed, but which of the two classic pairings do you think will leave the biggest legacy in Wrestling. Certainly, Edge and Christian have acheived the most in terms of championships so far, but both of them are older than both Hardys, and it is not unreasonable to assume that Jeff will have won as many titles as Edge by the time he is the same age, he certainly won his first one younger.

For me, both teams will be remembered as pioneers in exciting tag gimmick matches, as well as for injecting a little fervour into the tag division. E&C won most of the big gimmick matches, but the outcome of the matches isn't the most important thing in everyones memory. Probably the defining shot of the TLC match at X-Seven was Edge spearing Jeff in mid air, but this was not the ending to the match, which was essentially won by Rhyno when he carried Christian up the ladder.

For me, I'd say that if they all retired today, Edge and Christian would leave the greater legacy given that they have been more successful following their split, and have both ecellent matches and promos that will be repeated for a long time.

However, if the current Hardy feud pays off well, there is a chance that Jeff will become the #1 face of one of the brands. They have the benefit of having their break up at both of their career peaks, unlike E&C who had theirs some 4 years before winning their respective World Titles, and thus the lasting impression of the duo could be far greater.


-EDIT- I apologise for the attrocious grammar in the thread title, but it was getting late.

 

[Big Sexy]

I think it all depends on what Christian does the next few years in his WWE return. Right now I believe Edge is the biggest star of the four, but because Christian was never any more then a mid carder in his first WWE stint I don't think E and C are better then the Hardy's. Jeff Hardy is one of the most over, and exciting faces the WWE has had for a while and Matt Hardy is a solid performer as well. When it's all said and done I do believe E and C will have a better legacy, but right now it's the Hardy's.

 

[Blue Chipper]

The hardy bros. and E&C will largely be remembered for their inventiveness with gimmick matches in the early portion of their career, coincidently, with eachother. I think both teams really solidified eachother by being eachother's counterparts or by-products in this stage and boosted them up, where they made a name for theresleves - this is when people started to really recognize these guys.

As the dice rolled on, both teams seemingly were evenly popular with the fans. This was continous until both slowly split up.

Now, onto singles, where no one really excelled, at first. Then, Christian jump ships to TNA to immediatedly win gold. Edge fueded with Cena that got him major over in the main event. He, then, was rewareded multiple titles.

Matt and Jeff were doing decent as singles until they both regenerated from the draft and won the respective titles from the brand.

None, however, was rememerable, with the exception of Edge's runs, which I think drives me to say: E&C will leave the larger legacy. Edge is the driving force for my decision, because millions of fans love to hate him. No one out of these teams, in my opinion, will ever be as big as Edge.

 

[PlayTheGame]

I'm gonna have to say Edge and Christian will probably end up leaving the bigger legacy. Edge has become one of the top heels in the WWE and is easily one of the decade's most improved superstars, in terms of both mic skills and wrestling ability. He's won numerous world titles, has been involved in some high-priority matchups (WM24 Main Event as an example), and has basically carried the SmackDown brand with the help of a few others over the past few years. Christian, on the other hand, had only a moderately successful first stint with the WWE, but has since blossomed into a true superstar in TNA, and his future looks extremely bright so far for his second WWE stint.

On the other hand, you have the Hardys. Yes, Jeff was a WWE Champion... but it was a disappointing reign to say the least, and I'm not sure if he's really going to be winning many more world titles despite his young age, althought I could be wrong about this. Also, his career is also slightly tarnished due to his drug abuse, but thats forgivable. On the other hand, you have Matt Hardy, former ECW Champion... there's not much to say about him, he's the Christian to Jeff's Edge... except Christian later made a name for himself. He's also never won the big one... yet.

So, in terms of how its playing out now, and how I think it will play out, I really cant see the Hardys collectively beating out E&C in terms of their legacies, unless, somehow, Matt Hardy breaks out and Jeff Hardy breaks out even more so.

So, I'd go with Edge & Christian FTW.

 

[hArdyPUNKmArk]

I would say at the moment.... The Hardy's.

I know, I know, I'm a Hardy fan but i am a big fan of Edge and Christian as well. I'll explain:

I would say that Jeff will end up being very successful by the time he retires. He will definatly have more world title reigns and could quite possibly be the biggest face in the company. If pushed right he could be very very successful. Jeff would be the standout star of the Hardy's at the moment and will probably be the more successful of the 2.

Edge is obviously the standout for E&C with his 8 world titles (lol, 8) and is the biggest heel on Smackdown and is carrying that brand at the moment. Edge is the more successful of the 4 for obvious reasons but i wouldnt count Jeff out of being just as successful, he might not have as many reigns as champ but could very well have more meaningful ones.

Christian has been a mid carder (in WWE) ever since competing as a single and has only won a world title on TNA. He's awesome to watch, no one can deny that but he hasnt won any big ones in WWE like Jeff and Edge. And Matt has won the ECW title, not as big/prestiges as the WWE and WHC but was still the main title on the show and carried it while he was champion.

All this said i think that it all depends on how Matt and Christian go over the next few years. Obviously Edge has cemented himself in the ME and I'm pretty sure that Jeff has already joined him, we'll have to see what happens after his fued with Matt. Jeff and Edge will be very successful and Matt and Christian need to prove themselves over the next few years, it hangs on them who will leave the better legacy, their tag history speaks for itself and as singles, they are still building their respective legacy's so we'll have to wait and see...

 

[Lee]

Wow nice thread Tastycles. Now it all depends on how you look at it and how you mean by legacy. If by legacy do you mean WWE or by wrestling as a whole, as tag teams, or as single stars or as a mix of the two? That will bring different answers.

So for the sake of this thread I will look at it being the WWE legacy and as a mix of the two. Now as tag teams, both will go down with the greats in WWE, the Hart foundation, Road Warriors, Dudleys, E&C and the hardyz are the five big tag teams of the recent generation for WWE. So as a tag team both teams will probably go down as legends.

Single run is a bit of a funny one;

E&C= Whilst Edge has had very good success in the title department, it has been marred by the fact he seems to be a transitional champion, not holding on for long. Christian has yet to win big in WWE, and we'll see how his ECW run goes.

The Hardyz= Now I think Jeff is being built for the future, and with that I guess they're building Matt up too, that said it's too early to tell on these two, both are very over...but then again so are E&C....

 

[killerpc]

Without a shadow of a doubt Edge and Christian!They were the better tag team. And now they're the bigger single stars.They both became world champions in the begining of 2006 - 3years ago.It doesn't matter if it's TNA, the TNA World Title has a world title status unlike the ECW title that Matt won.
Christian won the TNA (NWA at the time) WORLD TITLE 2 times and had 2 great world title runs.Edge has won 8 world titles in WWE.And unlike Christian's title reigns Edge's were short.But it doesn't matter.Look at the most of HHH's title reigns, but he's still recognized as a great champion.And Edge is the biggest star and draw out of the four.Everybody talks about Edge's title wins, about what he's done,the formation of Rated RKO and everything about Edge! Matt will never be more than a midcarder!He's not a main event talent material!
Who talked about when Matt became ECW Champ.Who will remember it.The people even forgot that Jeff Hardy was WWE Champ.What did he do when he was champ??? Yeah he and his "girlfriend" were hit by a car,he was hit by his pyro and some shit like that.The only time people talk about Jeff is when he take drugs and get his ass suspended or fired.Deal with it kids, Edge and Christian will leave a much bigger Legacy than the Hardys!

 

[seven3too]

edge and christian were imo a better tag team, they gelled perfectly and were halarious and were great heels plus they almost never lost....the hardys will be remembered more due to the fact that edge and christian have had better singles carrers than the hardys have..edge has had more title reigns than anybody in the history of the company christian was always a great performer and multi-time ic champ and tna heavyweight champ. matt hardy not so much forgetable u.s. champ worst ecw champ ever in the history of western civilization and jeff is exciting to watch but is less skilled as a mat technitian then either edge or christian. but has held many tiltles too. with jeff it's his appeal that has got him over. so i say the hardys but only because they were a more appeling tag team to the untrained eye and thats what they would be most remembered for edge and christian are bigger stars in my opinion hoe ever. keep in mind that the hardys wouldn't be so over if it wasn't for they're favorite theatrical prop the ladder!

 

[richardleaf20]

Edge and Chritian. They have not only accomplished more but also have more success as singles competitors. While both Hardys have been on Vince's bad side they still have been successful. But in the end, I think that will be the deciding factor in how their championship resumes. I'm just saying.

 

[hardyluvr831]

based as a tag team i'd have to say the hardyz because they are brothers and everyone knows it which would make that more memorable right there and they also have tagged together a lot more recently than E & C. While both teams did very remarkable matches in the late 90s, early 00s. As far as singles careers coming out of them I'd say Edge and Jeff Hardy are the biggest of the four. But I think that they will both leave different kinds of legacies. The Hardyz more of a legacy for the faces and E & C for the heels, but they both will definitely leave big legacies in the tag team division

 

[Legendary_Undertaker]

As of right now Edge is more decorated than any of the other three but at the same time E&C are almost t the end of their careers while the Hardys (mainly Jeff) have the ability to go alot further than Edge.

E&C and The Hardys have had alot of classic matches and will go down in history as two of the Greatest Tag Teams ever but as far as your question goes I think the Hardy's will leave behind the better legacy they are alot younger and as long as jeff doesn't screw up again

 

[pepentorresHHH]

a difficult question....... personally i think Edge and Christian will have the greater legacy, as i believe that even Edge alone could leave a greater legacy than the hardys combined.
Edge is a former 8 time world champion, less than 10 men in the history of wwe and the whole wrestling busineed can say say they did that. hes mainevented wrestlemania against the phenom, hes won everything there is to be won in this business and Christian is a great performer, a former world champion, and they have had greater matches and feuds,
the hardys will always be great, no denying that but i always got a feeling that the level of success that they currently have will the maximum they enjoy, as jeff hardy although great i really fear for that 3rd strike and because of the damage the gimminick matches have made to his body i dont see jeff hardy surpassing another 10 years with the company, but in my opinion the real factor is matt hardy, hes one of the hardest working people in the wwe right now, and he has solid matches but his gimminick never helped him, i hope to see him surpass his brother woth his new heel gimminick as i see a much brighter future for him than for jeff........ so right now E&C but we ll see in the following years

 

[Shocky]

Edge and Christian, and mainly because of personal preference. Edge alone has had by far a more intriguing and entertaining career as a singles wrestler then both the Hardy's combine, and then you throw the curve of Christian in there, and it simply puts it over the top.

As said earlier, the Hardy Boy feud has potential, but how long can they milk it for, and then what happens afterwards? To me, this is the one big payday feud the Hardy's have that anyone is remotely interested in. Plus Jeff hardy's career isn't going to go on that much longer, minus a complete makeover. He's slowly getting up there in age, and if he continues to do what he does to his body because he can't wrestle a proper match, he'll be retired by 35.

 

[Arrynboot]

If we are debating which tagteam will leave the bigger legacy im gonna go with the hardys but if we are talking about the guys individual legacies, neither of the hardys are as good as singles wrestlers as Edge and Christian are, Edge is leaps and bounds above the quality of Jeff and Matt and Christian isn't far behind edge, but the Hardys are perfect as a team, but with the PG thing WWE has going on right now, its gonna be hard for Jeff to fully showcase his extreme style, and he just isn't hard hitting enough without his high risk offense, Matt is pretty boring on his own, he was at his best during the Edge and Lita fiasco because there was legit hatred back then.

 

[Khalifa]

Lee basically stole my post. It depends how you look at it. If you look at it saying " Wow Edge and Christian have done so much since they split up, Edge has 8 world title reigns in the last 3 years and Christian dominated TNA. Whle the Hardys haven't done as much as E&C but still have stolen the show" Then Edge and Christian will have taken the singles legacy out of these 2 tag teams. Edge carried the IC division in 2004 along with Randy Orton and then became on the become probably the best heel in the company today. While Christian hasn't had much success he had so highs while in WWE. He had a great feud with Chris Jericho and also formed a great tag team with Jericho. He had some great matches during is time by himself and eventually made it to a main event match before leaving the company. The Hardys have accomplised some great things as well. Jeff became a 3 time IC champion when he came back and also became the WWE champion last year. He has had some good matches and has improved alot. Matt Hardy hasn't got the recongnition he desvered. He has become a US champion and also a ECW champion. He put on a great feud with Edge and also has become a great chaser for titles.

But if you look at it like " OMG the tag team division isn't what it was when there was the Dudleys, Hardys and E&C. The Hardys were awesome and probably were the best tag team back then". Yeah I said it. They probably were. Sure they sucked in the ring but they had so much passion for the company. They put the body on the line all the time in every match. They amde the ladder match and TLC match exciting because no one else would of cared if it were just the Dudleys and E&C. Edge and Christian were great but the Hardys were the most over team and then came back in 2007 and became tag team champions again.

 

[boz_supernova]

Personally I think that as a tag team the Hardys will definately have the biggest impact as far as a legacy goes as I think that they are innovative with their double team moves and their chemistry, however, whenever someone mentions the Hardys they will always mention E&C. I think that all four of them owe their success down to their feuds together as their matches, along with the Dudleyz were some of the best tag matches I've ever seen.

If we're talking of singles wrestling, its clear that at the moment Edge is most successful. I think that in terms of a legacy, he is one of the best heels of this generation of wrestlers, so Edge FTW there.

However in the years to come Jeff Hardy may be just as successful and mite even build a bigger legacy as a face. Only time will tell. As for Matt & Christian, to me they both scream mid card.

 

[TheOneBigWill]

Christian has almost accomplished just as much as both Hardys, combined, and Edge eclipses all of them. So on that note, Edge and Christian would be the bigger Legacy left behind.

The fact is, Edge has accomplished so much, that he dwarfs all the others, and will always be bigger than any of them. So this conversation really belongs between Jeff, Matt and Christian.

Jeff Hardy is arguably the biggest fan favorite out of the trio I named out, excluding Edge. Jeff has also accomplished becoming a Heavyweight Champion. The thing that hurts Jeff, is his reign was a failure more or less. I don't think there was ever any real reason he was given the title.. than to finally give it to him, and notch one more reign on Edge's belt for some reason.

Matt's biggest accomplishment is winning the E.C.W. Championship, but it isn't the same Heavyweight title it used to be. As a result, it's more like a glorified top tier mid-card Championship. Outside of his run in E.C.W., people will only mainly remember him for being Jeff's brother, and the guy who got cheated on.

Finally, Christian has become a multi-time T.N.A./N.W.A. Heavyweight Champion. Again, while it's not exactly the same N.W.A. title it was years ago, it's still a Heavyweight title of a major company. And to have more than 1 meaningful reign, makes him better than both Hardy's combined.

So as a result, Edge by default carries his team, but Christian just adds the icing on the cake.